Hi everyone

>not knowing that all females are inherently bi

Have you never talked to a female?

Personally wouldnt mind it as long as you were an actually somewhat intelligent person n shit
I dont care who you slept around with just keep yourself clean and then you're fine by me

>considering dykes human

shame about these gets

>not knowing that all humans are inherently bi
FTFY
also checked

If you did it all at once, then yes, it's a major deal-breaker. Otherwise, I'd be fine with it. I don't know why you're asking because you and I both know you wouldn't be honest about your sexual past; no woman ever is.

Personally I'm only interested in a fellow virgin who has never been with anyone else. And there's nothing wrong with that.

I don't really mind desu ppls past isn't rly my business. Plus, my body count is 2 anyway so they wouldn't be my first hence it's unfair to expect that from them. Idk how many ppl I speak for tho

I wouldn't respect you as much it wont feel like you are actually mine and I'd treat you worse and probably cheat. And the fact you got tested shows you were fucking dirty men you couldn't trust

If youre not ugly I would not mind having sex with you.

What morals are important to you? If I have good morals, would I meet your standards despite pansexuality?

Thank you. Your use of the word whore to describe a promiscuous woman is mean, but at least your standards are reasonable.

This is demonstrably untrue and probably bait.

In my younger days I had a boyfriend and two "girlfriends". The relationship with the boyfriend was the only close to proper one, and that wasn't all that serious. I was only 13.

Would she also be your first? Also I think that may be hard to find nowadays, unless (like I said) you want a very religious girl.

Haha no. All separate occasions, one time each.

You sound like a total joy to be around. /s

Damn. Six 7s. That's fuckin awesome m8

Thanks for the input. What would you qualify as intelligent?

>Haha no. All separate occasions, one time each.
too bad
either way, it's not a dealbreaker for me to be honest (since I'm so desperate anyway)

>What morals are important to you? If I have good morals, would I meet your standards despite pansexuality?
yea, probably

I have been honest, since I wouldn't really want to be with a guy who judged me for it anyway.

At least you meet your own standard.

>Would she also be your first?

of course I am not a hypocrite.

>Also I think that may be hard to find nowadays, unless (like I said) you want a very religious girl.

I know because of the sexual liberation but thankfully sex dolls are my backup if I don't find one. brand new sex dolls are both very sexy,loyal and pure.

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>You sound like a total joy to be around. /s
I know right? Not like you! Life of the party! I bet the fellas love to hear you're coming round. You're just a carefree fun girl out there having fun, not condemning yourself to being completely undesirable by age 30 or anything. No sir this ride's gonna go on forever.

I like your perspective. I think it's good that you don't judge people by their past. (The obvious exception, I hope, is that you will judge someone who's done seriously immoral things, especially if they haven't changed.)

You sound as like a terrible person and your logic is terrible. You are less deserving of respect than a promiscuous girl anyway.

I should've been clear: I'm intending for this to be about having a serious relationship.

its not. gg

Oops I responded to twice. Meant obviously for the second one to be , haha.

>sexts
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You don't have to be "desperate" to not rule someone out for sexual history. You might have high expectations in other areas.

>sex dolls as "pure"
Lolz. To each their own, though.

I don't plan on having any more casual sex. If the guy I really want ends up rejecting me or it otherwise doesn't work out, I may end up doing some gay shit like lesbian hookups - but then again, the shame might keep me from pursuing that.

Thanks.
>gg
Good girl? Lol. Or does this mean something else?

I would say it depends on a couple of factors. For example, i'm 19 so if you had that body count at my age i'd be a little suspect because it could be indicative of you being in multiple relationships and them not lasting too long which is of course a red flag. Or if they're hookups, that you're easy which is also a red flag. If you're older, maybe early 20s I wouldn't give much thought to it though, but even then if you were my age i'd give you a chance, but i'd proceed cautiously.

I guess it's nice you realized you done fucked up being a slut. Better late than never. I'd recommend lying about your sexual exploits to any man you want to actually consider you for a long-term relationship.

sex doll are very pure. so pure that only women are touching them during the manufacturing process.

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I find it odd that you think lying about your history to your romantic partner is actually worse than having been sexually active before.

Any man who judges me based on the fact that I've had sex before with some people is not a man I want anyway. My partner will need to accept me for whom I am, and our values will need to be at least somewhat aligned.

>What are your thoughts?
That I am not getting to fuck you unless you into agegap anyway, so why the hell do you ask me?

I do not give a damn about your hymen, it is a hassle when you have it imo. But unless you did some pretty wild shit with those 4 calling that experience is a bit of a stretch too.

I'm not currently interested in getting a sex doll, because a lot of the pleasure of sex for me comes from actually being desired. I can get off with my hand and imagination (sometimes with videos) just fine; I don't need a fake person for glorified masturbation.

However, out of curiosity, I have some questions.
>how much do they cost?
>do they make noises and move like most people do?
>how do you clean out your jizz?

>being a whore and a liar

good job making her a more terrible person.

I waited it out for a virgin and stayed single until 23 by choice despite having pervious relationships and many opportunities after. The lack of baggage a virgin brings to a relationship is worth each of the 4 years I went without intimacy. I've never been happier and it's been 5 years of non-stop talking and fun.
There's a few reasons I would call you an undesirable.
1. Not a virgin (of course)
2. Bisexual. Men and women absolutely cannot have platonic relationships and you can't have any.
3. I'm 6'4", in shape, and have blue eyes. I don't need to settle for filth.

I think the problem is that when women have had multiple partners, the man gets the feeling she's bad at picking the right mate and/or she will leave him too. My advice would be to really show your affection to your partner in a relationship to not make him feel like just another guy you've been with. Also comparing your partner to another is the biggest no-no ever.

>That I am not getting to fuck you unless you into agegap anyway, so why the hell do you ask me?
I wasn't making this thread looking for guys who would be willing to date me. I wanted to gauge the general attitudes towards the idea of being with someone who has my sexual history.
I appreciate that you are okay with nonvirgins despite being older.
>unless you did some pretty wild shit with those 4 calling that experience is a bit of a stretch too
Given that some people here want literal virgins, I'd say it certainly counts as experience - especially the gay stuff and anal (which I didn't mention but have done at least once),

Fuck? I guess. Commited relationship? Nada. Still stuck on pure virgin meme.
Actually, if we had some real fucking chemistry goin, id settle for you if i still got to fuck other girls. Because id still want to at least deflower a girl. So as not to be the only one profiting, so to speak, i/we would aim for bi/bi-curious so you could get it on with the girl in a threesome (or more girls desu). But ONLY in a threesome.
Yes all of that would be required to be in a commited relationship. Yes im aware how stupid i am.

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>I find it odd that you think lying about your history to your romantic partner is actually worse than having been sexually active before.

How did you get that impression? I mean they're both bad but the whoring bit is worse than the lying imho.

>our values will need to be at least somewhat aligned.
I hope you're into dudes who get off on being cucks.

Honestly, as a virgin, guys like you creep me out to no end.
I have lied about my sexual history (inventing that I had sex with an ex boyfriend) to previous dates just to avoid people like you.

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Can you tell me why guys who would want a virgin creep you out?

Every guy prefers a virgin, don't kid yourself. And I'm not here to make you feel better or swoon random women I'll
never meet, so I'll be honest. I already have my 10/10 long term soon to be wife. You better choose wisely, you expire at 23.

Because, while I do consider virginity important and don't want to have casual sex, I want to have sex in a monogamous relationship. Like, if we were dating for a few months, and loved each other, I'd wanna definitely smash.
And if after that happens, you'd think less of me and consider me "filth", I wouldn't want to be with you at all. I'd honestly want to die if I found out that I lost my virginity to a guy who thinks like that, and thinks he made me less worthy by fucking me.

>you expire at 23.
Yeah, you're not really long term relationship material anyway.

Hardly the place to gauge general attitudes, unless you are into shy and exceedingly withdrawn guys.
And do not forget some are spiteful 14 years with a chip on the shoulder. Talking of that, lying to your potential partner is pretty much the worst suggestion in this thread aside from the obligatory kys.
Such things tend to come out before long, and you will never get that trust back.

I'm the original guy you replied to and that's now how it works, if you're the first and only in the girl still has no baggage from previous relationships. Don't get me wrong, I waited 2 years for my girlfriend to be ready and there's no way I'm leaving her.

Me personally, I don't give a fuck. I have this one fuck buddy right now who tells me when she fucks other people and I love it.

See . It's not something I would do.

>There's a few reasons I would call you an undesirable. ... Bisexual
Rejecting a person for being bi is shitty imo. Though, I understand the fear that they may really just be gay. (Elton John, I love your music, but hate that you claimed to be bi before admitting to being gay.)
>Men and women absolutely cannot have platonic relationships and you can't have any.
This is some BS, especially since I'm not universally appealling. I know there are people who think I'm like 3-4 range even if some others find me hot. "People who like more than one gender can't have friendships ever." Like fuck off, man, that's so dumb that it was almost not worth taking time to respond.
>I'm 6'4", in shape, and have blue eyes.
Sigh. Very similar to, if not exactly like the guy I want.
>I don't need to settle for filth.
It's this that reveals your true character. Thinking bi and/or promiscuous women are "filth" just makes you an awful person.

Wait, how/why would the person that is your first, think less of you after the fact just because you arent a virgin anymore?
Or am i misunderstanding something?

Yeah, but relationships end an people break up. It happens. I've seen 7, 8, 9 year long relationships end.
If you think that someone is "unworthy" and "filth" just because they had sex with a person they loved, I really find you gross. If we break up, I don't want you to think you made me filth by fucking me. Why would I let you do it?

All the women that actually have ideals and passions are already in happy relationships, opportunistic dullards like you will find another opportunistic dullard to date and eventually get a divorce from then you'll die alone once your children from multiple marriages fuck off and overdose are try to get there shit together.

Not how it works*
You don't have to like me, I'll never meet you so your opinion is basically meaningless to me when your hole is taken out of the question. I feel bad that you don't value yourself enough to have pride in your non-degenerate lifestyle though.

But promiscuous women are filth? Like how is it not filthy/slutty/etc?

its a deal breaker but probably not in the way u think, in fact, ur better than most. a virgin girl would be nice, but failing that, if i had to settle down with a girl and all, it would be with a girl who has had less than 10 partners. i think this is reasonable.
additonal redflags that would be dealbreakers for me are gangbangs, threesomes, cheaters, and if most of ur encounters had been one night stands.
the dealbreaker is that u were with a girl. idc about gay ppl or any of that, but it seems trashy and amoral. also i dont know if the other girl was in a threesome with u and another guy, in which case that would also be a dealbreaker

If things went south (and things can always go south) he'd think he made me "filth" and not good for other relationships. Like he ruined me forever. Like he took something of value away from me.
Sex for me is an act of love, while he's ruining me for it. It is very selfish in his narrative.
I don't want to have sex with a man who thinks that.

>Yeah, but relationships end an people break up
You don't seem like you're looking for anything long term which is fine, but some people are and if they click with someone enough they can commit for life.

>You sound as like a terrible person
No that's how every man feels or they choose to ignore it because they'd rather have a slut gf then no gf at all. We really only want girls because they have a pussy and the more it's used means the less value you have sorry

No, platonic relationships don't exist. Ask your friends to have sex and see what happens. And being promiscuous is the best example of degenerate filth there is. Only thing you can really do to increase your smv is to maybe have some interesting hobbies guys think are cool and stop sleeping/fooling.

I am. But you don't have any guarantee.
If you cheat on me, am I left as "filth"?

You could virtually have a guarantee if you both actually understood each others feelings and know you're both providing for each other what the other wants.

Context is everything in this case. But if the girl in question had a greasy ex who was a total degenerate, it's not a good sign and shows immense baggage and lack of self respect. I want a woman that has pride on her choices to show my future children a good example.

Okay so the filth thing stem from the girl in questiin NOT being a virgin BEFORE the current relationship. Not becoming deflowered DURING. I think your misunderstanding what the other user said about himself. I doubt theyd think less of a girl they deflowered and later broke up with, because they got your first to begin with.
That user was talking about how they wouldnt settle for anything less than a virgin. If a girl wanted a relationship but wasnt a virgin, then theyd meet the filth criteria.

Life is longer then your disney allows you to see, but GL maybe it does work out for you.

Ya, it's pretty much this. It's like we're best friends who do everything together and never get tired of each other. We haven't been able to stop talking since we met.

>I think the problem is that when women have had multiple partners, the man gets the feeling she's bad at picking the right mate and/or she will leave him too.
The thing is, that standard may be hard to meet. In the U.S., people surveyed averaged 7 lifetime sexual partners. 7. And that's just at the time they answered. While I admit that I think seven is high, 4-5 does not seem to be in modern times.
>My advice would be to really show your affection to your partner in a relationship to not make him feel like just another guy you've been with.
Oh, I will. Currently I'm focused on one guy and will not date anyone else unless he rejects me or it doesn't work out.
>Also comparing your partner to another is the biggest no-no ever.
I think it's okay if you're doing it in a positive way, and you're not the one who brought it up.

God, you're dumb. You are objectively less valuable, and to some near valueless, because he fucked you and eventually you ended the relationship. That's just how it is and always will be no matter what you would like to feel.

Don't have sex until marriage and the problem is avoided all together. But I guess the trends of the last few decades show that women are to fucking stupid or incapable of planning their own life without a man making the decisions for any of you to do that. And for you specifically that ship has always sailed. It's a fact that you will never be able to bond with later sexual partners as closely as with you first, and relationships involving non-virgin women are much more likely to fail.

Nice larping. But just to keep the thread going i have to say it.

OREGANOLI

>I think it's okay if you're doing it in a positive way, and you're not the one who brought it up.
Pump the brakes. This is NOT something you do. Why, in any situation, would your current partner wanna be compared to your previous partner? The idea is that the current partner is the only one on your mind.

I'm the user that referred to you as filth. You should not ever under any circumstance mention an ex. It shows that you weren't careful with choices and a self destructive person. Also, it's very very rude to do so anyway even by normie standards.

Obviously some proportion of men are fine with or even prefer partners who are or were promiscuous. There are dudes in 'open' relationships where the wife fucks a new guy every week and the husband gets no pussy at all. And some men prefer 'mature' 'experienced' women.

But acting surprised that on balance men prefer younger less experienced women is just willful ignorance. Many will settle for you, op. Most of them would prefer if you had been a virgin, even if they say they find virgins boring or unskilled to save your feelings.

>how much do they cost?

$1,600 and up for quality sex dolls.

>do they make noises and move like most people do?

yeah if you get the harmony doll. she is worth $8,000 which is cheaper then a divorce rape and getting a real gf. also you can just buy the $1,600 sex doll and listen to female moaning noises when you fucker to make it more realistic.

>how do you clean out your jizz?

some are build to fit a pocket pussy on them so you can clean your jizz much easier.

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>t. emotionally unintelligent or unsympathetic
What are your guys plans for after your 40s once the kids leave?

I wouldn't want someone to settle me and don't want an open relationship. Also why do you want to "deflower" a girl?

>How did you get that impression?
Because you literally suggested that I lie.
>I mean they're both bad but the whoring bit is worse than the lying imho.
You're just showing that I was right.
>I hope you're into dudes who get off on being cucks.
A cuck likes to watch his wife fuck other people. That is not what I want or what would happen in a relationship with me.

Completely understandable. Wanting a virgin is not inherently bad, but disrespecting women who aren't is.

pussy is your only currency in the dating game. If you open your legs too often it loses value until you basically devolve into a whore. dont be a whore

I agree with and feel bad for your partner.

Wow how closed-minded of you user. You don't want your gf to tell you about how she let Tyrone rail her out while she was passed out in an alleyway? Welcome to the 21st century where real men are cucks.

>having a vagina
>not a feminine penis
that's a deal breaker for me

>and I love it
Like... do you imagine it and get pleasure from that? Or do you just like the pass for you to fuck other people as well?

And how does suggesting that you lie entail that I find it worse than whoring? Not even trying to be antagonistic here I literally don't follow the logic.

>What are your guys plans for after your 40s once the kids leave?
We decided we would get a house in this rural area we like on a really nice river so that we have a nice, fun, and relaxing place for our families to visit us (and eventually grandkids)

Especially introverts on the internet. Personally I'm working hard to be very successful so I can eventually woo my fat homely virgin introverted nerd wife.

>t. emotionally unintelligent or unsympathetic
Or simply cynical and realistic

Don't feel bad for her, she's as happy as I am.

if women rubbing up against each other counts as sex, will i void my v-status if i rub up against a woman?

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If you were a real hero you'd somehow meme male makeup and higher beauty standards into existence. I guess you could just be a fag I guess.

You deserve disrespect the same way a man who is 60 years old and never had sex deserves no respect. Girls aren't stupid they know who the loyal men who cheat are but they want to fuck the attractive rich chad instead

The emotional connection. It should used as proof of true love, to show that both people are commited to the relationship as well as its deepening and furthering of the relationship. Sex should be earned, honestly. It shouldnt happen for quite longtime (relative to how frequently the two see eachother).

This comment is not entirely comprehensible, so you're a goddamn hypocrite for calling me a dullard.

What would make it filthy? If doing it with one person isn't gross, then how is doing it with multiple people gross?
If you don't want someone who currently leads a promiscuous lifestyle, that is entirely understandable. However, writing someone off as "filth" for life because they've had sex with more than one person makes YOU to bad person, and you should feel bad.

>idc about gay ppl or any of that, but it seems trashy and amoral.
You literally just contradicted yourself. This is the homophobic version of "I'm not racist, but..."

Props to you. You have good taste in men, from what I see here.

Guys aren't as attractive to women as women are to men and it's harder for men to have an intimate relationship fall into their laps so they're on average more naive and starry eyed about the idea. Pretend intimacy is still something that's special to you and you're really sad that your previous few boy friends refused to make it work.

Women are fair game for shame or disrespect because of their dumb actions. You should be shamed as a whore precisely because you are one.

Any man who is with you is no better than a cuck. They want a women who has been used by other men. The normal human response to that is a disgusting response.

Its the low mileage ideology. The less the better.
Its far more realistic to expect a girl or guy has had a few (few is 3 to 5), without a doubt. But the more sex someone has, the less desireable they are. Its just how it works. Especially if there were more hook ups/ONSs then real relationship sex.

I feel like believing so firmly that there's always a possibility that any relationship will fall apart isn't conducive to long lasting relationships.

Dude, you are totally projecting here. Not every man is like you. Also, people who've been with more than one person aren't automatically "sluts". The average number of partners someone in the U.S. has had is SEVEN. You are not in touch with reality.
Also, men want more than just vagina. It's clear that you're a low value man, though, so I hope that no girl lets you in her life.

You think it's fine to reject men because of things out of their control like being ugly or short. But a man rejects a women for being a whore and we are terrible people? You're filth deal with it

>No, platonic relationships don't exist.
Literally what? So love for family and friends is just some hidden Freudian shit? I'm at a loss for words.
>And being promiscuous is the best example of degenerate filth there is.
I disagree, but I never said I am currently promiscuous. You seem to think I'm taintet for life, though.