No matter how nice, friendly, helpful, and supportive you are, a woman does not owe you sex or a relationship

>No matter how nice, friendly, helpful, and supportive you are, a woman does not owe you sex or a relationship.
Why does this simple truth enrage incels?

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Incels need something to be angry at. That one's easy.

>No matter how physically attractive you are, beta males do not owe you their attention, resources, or emotional labor
Why does this simple truth enrage roasties?

it might enrage some people, but you could say that about anything

as for sex and relationships this has more to do with TV and popular discourse, a lot of people grow up being told that this is what life is about ect, and when they cant achieve this with anyone it pisses them off

so just stop misleading people about sex and relationships

The truth is that fornication is a sin, sex is designed for marriage to start a family, and it's a sin to refuse sex with one's spouse.
So no, being kind doesn't mean a woman owes sex, but marriage does. The end.

i'll accept this when women stop complaining when their boyfriends/husbands beat them/abuse them/cheat on them
i would NEVER do any of that but if i tell a girl she cringes and immediately shies away from me
okay you don't owe me sex, but i will fucking say i told you so and i better not hear a single fucking complaint when something bad happens to you as a result of your scum bag boyfriend

It doesn't. This is a butthurt response that only comes to play AFTER incels have already been rebuffed. It's like saying you quit after you've already been fired.

This. It's almost like being deprived of an essential human need for your entire life can lead to anger and psychological issues.

>It doesn't.
Kek, it so does. You wouldn't believe how asshurt women get when you cut them off for not being interested. They literally think they're owed friendship. This >ur not endidled to anythib :D meme goes both ways

I don't think this enrages women, and besides, attractive women can easily get attention. Hell, even if an ugly woman time-stamped, R9K would break for the next 3 hours guaranteed

Males are taught from a young age that intimacy with a woman is entirely transactional. The issue becomes now that women have more sexual freedom/independence, they are only interested in visiting the nicest "shops" so to speak, aka Chad.

They haven't grown up yet and think the world is fair. There's a reason most people on here, foreveralone reddit shtis are under 25.

Couldn't have said it better myself. This shit is drilled into our heads from birth. Be a gentleman, treat her right, and you'll find someone. No one prepared us for what the reality is.

But incels are the ones pretending to be their friends to begin with. When you don't get what you really wanted, you get buttblasted and "withdraw your friendship", which is really just exposing what a petty, dishonest, selfish manbaby you are. In the end you're the total loser, you just need a way to delude yourself you aren't while you're crying alone.

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It really is unfortunate. The only option is to try and make your shop the nicest you can possibly make it or close the shit down forever, meanwhile other guys are literally handed a top-tier shop by their parents (genetics). I really hope you anons can finally find a qt that wants to come into your nice little store and stay forever or some gay shit like that.

>pretending
You can't "pretend" to be friends with someone, idiot. And I could say the exact same fucking thing about women pretending to be into the guy to extract free shit from him.
>you get buttblasted and "withdraw your friendship"
As I have every right to. No one is entitled to anything, right?

give me ONE benefit there is to being strictly friends with a woman
men and women are meant to build sexual and intimite relationships
during the day men are out in the fields working or hunting with other men their brothers or friends however you would put it
at night they return home to the comfort of a woman
men and women are not meant to be "just friends"
if sex and a relationship is not on the table, i will put zero time, energy and money into you

lel this, incels think their fakeass "friendships" mean more to women than they actually do.

Then explain why they always get so toasty when I end it. I don't even freak out on them, I just let it die, and they're still furious.

ITT: 23 years or younger

>You can't "pretend" to be friends with someone
That's exactly what you do and why it's so easy to invoke your "right" (which suspiciously only comes up after you've been btfo) to "withdraw your friendship" when you don't get what you want. Some friend.

t. 24 year old
you are a borderline zoomer

>No matter how wide your roastie vagina is, a man does not owe you tax money in the form of birth control or child welfare

Why does this simple truth enrage roasties?

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>That's exactly what you do
You either are friends with someone or you're not. Even if you have goals beyond the friendship you can't say it's not a tangible thing that exists.
>which suspiciously only comes up after you've been btfo
This isn't at all relevant.
>"withdraw your friendship" when you don't get what you want. Some friend.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BE MY UNCONDITIONAL BETA ORBITER OR YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE
And with that, I rest my case. You proved my own point better than I ever could have. Ta-ta.

I'm not enraged by it, I've just been led on by women, in no uncertain terms, telling me they loved me and then when it came time to have a real relationship, I was simply stonewalled or abandoned.
I don't expect sex or love, but I am an incompetent, hopeless romantic. I just wish I could find someone I can make happy and do nice things for, who will love me back.
I don't expect to find it in just anyone, but my heart has been broken when I've tried. So what do I do?

Because they value relationships. But they can easily establish new ones, while you can't and will die alone.

How is vagina width related to the other things?

Why don't you stop pretending to be their friends, betacucks? It's all on you and you deserve all the scorn you get.

>Because they value relationships
But you just said these relationships don't mean as much to women as we think. Which is it, chief? Can't have both.

Hmm, that's why I only talk to women who find me attractive and fuck them as soon as possible. If they resist, I ditch em and find one who will. I have zero female friends and don't want any, just the girls that I fuck and or lead on.
It's funny because I'm ten times worse than an incel and proud of it, yet I get lays pretty much whenever I ea t because I'm attractive enough and I know how to get what I want.
It's sad but women were what made me accept the simple truth that nice guys finish last amf sociopaths are on top.i don't like it, but from here on out I shall use and abuse, now it's just a game to see how much I can get out of people.

Besides sex, what do women have to offer that friendship with other men can't already provide, with less bullshit emotional psychodrama and manipulative conditions?

t.person who knows nothing about inceldom. Let me explain to you why incels hate most women. Its only so much humiliation and gaslighting you can take from a group of people before you start to resent them. For most incels, It is simply the fact that they were lied to from a young age that as long as you were a nice caring young man, you will get a girlfriend. That however isn't true, as it has been established even in studies that personality is heavily tied in with looks. Most incels aren't even given the chance with women, because most fail to secure the most important thing in a healthy relationship.. attraction. Incels had an epiphany.. looks are the only thing that matters, and they came to this conclusion with studies, experiments, and reflecting back on their own life experiences.

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>You either are friends with someone or you're not.
And you were never actually their friend. Fake friend, sociopath, coward. Take your pick, moral weakling.
>This isn't at all relevant.
The bitter bitch in you wants to believe that.
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BE MY UNCONDITIONAL BETA ORBITER OR YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE
>t. incel redditor deflecting his butthurt onto the party he was rejected by

forgot to mention they constantly say they preach for personality, yet cant detect a fault in the chad who beats them until they vomit blood. Some even come back to them.

and then women turn around and complain about this.
so they basically don't want us to do anything.

that's why women have to be raped, basically.

>Some even come back to them.
>Some
I think you mean "most" user

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>49806138
most men only befriend women to get laid, difference is if the man is attractive enough to the woman, she will validate these intentions.

>You wouldn't believe how asshurt women get when you cut them off for not being interested.
This has never ever happened to me. I would feel like a fucking chad if a woman did this to me.

>You can't "pretend" to be friends with someone, idiot
Dude, it happens all the fucking time. Haven't you ever noticed someone is being especially nice to you because of a hidden motivation? Something they want to extract from you rather than enjoying the experience of your company?
>And I could say the exact same fucking thing about women pretending to be into the guy to extract free shit from him.
Yes you could. What's your point?

That's a sucker's approach, you just have to get better at advertising and marketing. Like that spurious Henry Ford quote:
>If I had of asked my customers what they wanted, they would have said 'faster horses'

then you arent owed friendship, protection, white knighting, alimony, affirmative action, friendliness and all the other free shit that society hands you

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pretty based chad honestly. But normies will not touch this.

What do you do when you're led on by multiple women for attention?
How is it possible to be a friend with someone who, in no uncertain terms, tells me they love me and then reveal that they led me on when I try and pursue a real relationship. The trust is destroyed. I want to be their friend still but it hurts so bad. I love them and they just used me for attention, just another orbiter.

god isnt real faggot.
there is no such thing as "sin" nor morals.

The hardest pill to swallow is that no one deserves anything unless they are genuinely nice with good intentions, and those folk are seldom angered by not getting anything from being nice. Because that's just who they are, they don't expect anything out of it because it's genuine.

>No one deserves anything except people I can freely exploit (and if they get upset, they were shit people after all!)
How convenient. How about you shut up unless you're one of those people, which we know you aren't.