Why does feminine not equal dominant?

Why does feminine not equal dominant?

Why are girls or traps so submissive? Do dominant feminine people even exist? If so, where do I find one?

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There are a lot of grills into femdom on Jow Forums.

You need to get out more

OORRIIGGIINNAALL

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Bulllshit, where are they then?

There are no dominant girls outside

This is all the porn I got. I need answers anons

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>Do dominant feminine people even exist?
Assertive women get called bitches.

>where are they then?
NOT IN MY FUCKING COUNTRY THAT'S FOR SURE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Just learn what to search on

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I literally have never said that. I just argue with them when I'm putting up my manly facade, but I just want to be told what to do and taken care of ;_;

How do you learn where though?

>Bulllshit, where are they then?
I'm a dom girl here.

Wait nuh uh, really?! But then you're probably not single and not looking and live in another country, and I won't be your type.

But I mean, at least you exist somewhere!

I'm not accusing you, I'm just saying in general.

are you light dominate? i've always wanted a gf that is kind of like the mommy gf stereotype and very caring but humiliation and hard domination are not things I want

NO YOU AREN'T
YOU DON'T EXIST
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ;_;

>where are they?

>pic related

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Fug off, this is myyyy thread, rrreeeee!

I don't believe you! Why would they be there? Do they like video games?

>why would internet girls go to a place where they can effortlessly gain orbiters and build a community around themselves with minimal effort?
>why would internet girls to go a place where they can build an isolated community with other internet girls and talk about things like gfd that would be impossible to talk about anywhere else without thirst being a factor?

Okay, so if they're just there discussing it amongst themselves and with orbiters, then they might as well not exist at all to me.

I want one for a gf. I can't stand being masculine 24/7. I want to just cry and be told it's okay.

I don't want fucking femdom, I don't want a cock cage, I don't want my balls busted, I don't want to share my girl, no, I just want her to get aroused at the idea of pinning me down and tying me up and spending half an hour teasing me and edging me until I beg her for release
I want her to like the idea of me worshipping her and kissing and massaging her feet, of me wanting her to sit on my face

and I know I'm not the only faggot around that wants that, so why is the porn so fucking hard to find?
fuck porn, it always has to become so fucking EXTREME, and now because of porn, whenever you say you want a dominant girl, everyone starts thinking that you're into pegging and want to be castrated or something
fucks sake

I know that feel user
I also play the tsundere in the hope of finding a girl that will put me in my place and make me hers someday too

yes but being called mommy makes me ill. other than that yes its pretty much exclusively gfd.

>I want to just cry and be told it's okay.
im a girl & crying is literally one of my fetishes.

You're a terrible person, and you're taking advantage of damaged people in a very unhealthy way

Please be in northeast usa and let me just cry into your chest and thighs - as I lay in your lap.

I need this.

I don't even give a shit if you're real or not, I've got nothing left to lose anyway so I'm going to take it as proof as people like you exist

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I feel you user. Took the words out of my mind exactly. My girl is dominate in nature, but not when it comes to bedroom stuff. Its so frustrating.

in their own servers is not the only place where they are, retard. join as many servers as possible and talk to as many people as possible.

i understand how you feel, i was there once. guess what, i came out on the other side with what i wanted then and what you want now, it is possible. i'll give you some advice. don't just go for any and all, it doesn't work. make friends with them first, not just on some beta orbiter bullshit, but actually talk about interests and make a connection with them. that's why it's important to find one that you are truly into and have a connection with on more than just the basis that they have a vagina, and they also have a genuine interest in you. general rule of thumb is, before thinking you actually have an interest in someone and want to have a relationship with that person, ask yourself "if they were a guy, would i want to be friends with them?". it won't be easy, it will take a while, your feelings will probably be hurt a few times, but maybe you'll succeed.

aside from that i just have standard relationship advice for you, dont be jealous, blah blah blah, do some independent research on how to build healthy and strong relationships.

wish u luck

Wh-what if it's a larper though user? What if we're being tricked? Would you really still give a shit?

I don't give a fuck, like I said, I got nothing to lose anyway
I don't even want a relationship if it means I have to become muh alpha male, so a false hope is better than literally nothing

only good crying not bad crying.
im not sry
cool

I feel you, but I mean I think it gets harder as you get older

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I want some one emotionally dominant and kind but sexually submissive please give gf like this please, will perform well.

>just noticing her looking at you with that hunger in her eyes is enough for your knees to grow weak
>and knowing that, she easily, quickly and effortlessly pins you down, taking her 'rightful' place on top of you and making sure you understand your own place, below her
>even if you're still fighting back, even with your hands still pawing at her and trying to push her off, it's just not nearly enough, it's nothing but your male instincts trying to take the control back, yet her eyes on yours are sapping all of your strength away and your arms become barely more than noodles trying to move concrete
>and the best part is when you realize she knows this, when her smirk widens and she let out that horrible and chilling and cute and sweet and domineering chuckle of hers, wordlessly letting you know that she knows you want this even more than she does
>that you're loving every single second of this, no matter what your mouth says

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It seems masculine. I look very feminine but I have many masculine personality traits and I am a dominant fem. It seems like that is almost always the case.

Women can't be dominant because it requires them to think about something other than "muh vagina muh feelings muh money"

Shhhh, stop user, you're only going to make both of us sad.

So how do I get to find these magical dominant fems??

but feeling sad is better than feeling like shit

I thought you said feminine dom fems? Did you just mean looks?

I don't actually think I'm into dominant women. I just want to be wanted. A deep, passionate want like in OPs pic. Imagine a girl that loves you so much she pins you down and kisses you. Yeah, that would be nice.

Real talk, if i wanna find a gf how realistic is it to look into discord? I see a surprising amount of people who say they found a gf on discord.

It is almost like you are implying gfd threads actually have a sizable girl population. I somehow doubt this insinuation

Yeah, someone who looks feminine and is still dominant. Looks and acts feminine. Like is super cute and bubbly in public and scared at movies but then puts you in olace and takes care of you at home.

That's my point. I am not like that. My personality isnt girly, and bubbly and no other dominant fems I know are either. But I do look feminine.

This this this this. typed in bold with IMPACT font.

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there are two types of girls browsing gfd threads, the ones that are there for the content and don't even reveal they're girls, and the attention whores that don't even care for the content and are just there because they know the pathetic males browsing said threads will shower them with '''affection'''
needless to say, those are entitled cunts and aren't relationship material in any way shape or form

are you the kind to slap my butt and command me to go make you a sandwich even though you're hanging out with your friends?
n-not that I'm into that or anything, haha

You latent homosexuals are the worst. You're so weak you don't even want to admit that you want the real thing - a dick from a real dude - up your ass.

Reasons for this weak ass behavior that NO woman finds attractive:

- passive / non-existent father figure
- dominant mother figure
- weak physique from watching animes all day and not participating in sports
- believing in moe-moe shit romantic stories and expecting women to approach you like smelliott spergoger, and then chimping out when they don't because some autist on liftingfeels.com (who is also a mike mew fanboy) told you to lift more to attract chicks, even though he himself is in better shape than 95% of men and still a virgin

>passive/nonexistent father figure
Nope
>dominant mother
Big nope
>weak physique
No, but I am short
>your last point
lmao what even

>Why does feminine not equal dominant?
Nature. Women default to passive roles. Not even necessarily submissive but almost always passive. You betacuck trash aren't helping with your woman worshiping bullshit, so I have no sympathy for you that women find you disgusting anyway lmao

I find it attractive. The thing i like the most is a nervous guy.
Reasons why this attractive to me:
>i get to be in control
>i get to initiate everything
>i get to choose what i want
>i get to think for both myself and my partner

now i mean this in a more sexual way than anything else and am a normal conversationalist outside the bedroom. as in i try not to be aggressive or mean during just talking about regular nerdy stuff or hobbies. all that being said i literally must have control sexually. Even a guy just hitting on me at a bar annoys me. do you know how easy it is to find a dom guy? literately a dime a dozen. sub men are rare, precious, and beautiful and should be treated with gentle loving tender kindness as they are robbed of their innocence by psycho predators like me.

this turned me on. lol. the chuckle part especially.

I actually know of two females that are dominant, though I wouldn't call them feminine, more like tomboys. I hear they take control in the bedroom over even fairly large men.

>take control in the bedroom over even fairly large men.
Hot as hell. i like to do this because it validates im doing it psychologically rather than physically. thats why big guys are the best.

you're a broken female, if you're a cis female at all

dunno
as a tranny i simply want to submit to somebody whom i trust

If I was a sandwich, I would be a sub

So which one of you is going to be my dom gf pls?

>tranny
Into the trash it goes

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If I was a pizza I'd be Dom inos

yeah well, I've been conditioning myself to becoming the best gentle sub I can be for years now, so I sadly know what I'm talking about

do you live in the US?
I'm not hitting on you (even though I hope you're real), I just want to know because I believe this is a cultural thing and gfd girls can't just pop up anywhere, it needs the right environment to grow and thrive
if you're uncomfortable about any of it then feel free to ignore my autistic ass

I'm always the more dominant one in the relationship OP. A lot of women are dominent but it comes off as bossy or prissy.

What do I do to find these bossy women then?

I like gfd, I dunno how feminine I am though.

They are all me, the same person.

I am.

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sorry, I didn't mean to give you that idea, I'm too much of a pussy to come and talk to you, especially since I'm so lonely these days I'll crush on you 100%, and I can't allow that because I don't live in the US

my bad

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SAUCE??????
obviously not original hehe

Oh, okay. I was wondering why I wasn't getting any adds. I travel though so it's not a big deal to not live in the usa.

nah, trust me, you deserve better
I need to sort myself out before I even get back on the dating scene
but have you done the 16personality test? I'd like to know your results
for academic purposes
again, I'm really sorry for giving you that false hope thingy

sorry my dude, I don't have it

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>again, I'm really sorry for giving you that false hope thingy
ROFL what?
No, I don't expect much from weird places like these I know we all mad here. Tell me yours first?

I'll just go first I'm INFP, the most omega one. Pretty ironic for a dom.

oh, good, I don't know you, obviously, and I didn't want to hurt your feelings or anything, as you said there are weird people browsing this place and I couldn't be sure if you'd take this badly or what
I'm glad we're cool

I'm literally pic related, save for the whole 'mommy' thing, I'd never call anyone mommy, it's creepy af
and cheating of course, even though I have plenty more flaws that are just as bad

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yeah the mbti test isn't nearly as scientific or revealing as it sounds, ENTP doesn't scream sub material either, it just assumes a lot of things from a very small number of very broad questions, but it sill gives me an idea of the kind of girl I'll have to look for, so that's more than enough for me
thanks for your time

I think there is a subredit for that r/gentlefemdom

Yea Im not gonna take some rando behavior on r9k as badly only goodly.
that pic is not perfect but its good af lol.honestly i never read much about infjs but think i am one after reading about it just now.

>interrupts what you're saying to tell you what he thinks you're thinking
I do this all the time. Only I'm actually right.

I think about you often.

Everything about it seems like me other than pic related. I don't fight back against unfair prosecution. The more normies hate me the better of a job I feel like I'm doing; only their hate and disgust could point me in the right direction morally.

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The best on on there is this:
>sex-crazed degenerate
>blushes at hand-holding
>breaks down if you hug him

Damn those are a good combo of traits.

Y-you do?! Who are you though. I did talk to a dom girl once here before... But I don't think she liked me

Do you have a discord? I haven't used skype in a minute! But you sound amazing.

yeah, the problem is that we tend to believe (or even know) that we're right, and the person doesn't want to accept it, so we press on further and shit hits the wall
or at least I, I'm a shitty person like that

that's the thing, since the mbti test deals in absolute opposites then leaning on one side tries to convince you that you're that, while you can actually be a little bit of the opposite and just some more of that

I'm not completely extroverted either, it's more of a 60/40% kinda deal (even though that pic is spot on)

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Yea what is your discord I will add you?

>yeah, the problem is that we tend to believe (or even know) that we're right, and the person doesn't want to accept it, so we press on further and shit hits the wall
or at least I, I'm a shitty person like that
What do you mean?

>that's the thing, since the mbti test deals in absolute opposites then leaning on one side tries to convince you that you're that, while you can actually be a little bit of the opposite and just some more of that
Yes I know exactly what you mean.

Did you make that pic if it's so spot on?

Not even the trap poster but read the OP again you tard

>what do you mean
that I'm an insufferable cunt, I love trying to understand what people think and how they operate and I love digging at the walls and facades they hide behind
and of course many people don't like that, but it's just one of those things that's hard to suppress
idk

and no I didn't, I just stumbled upon it completely at random when browsing an 'ideal gf' thread or something like that, and it made me unf so hard because it was so spot on
again, other than the guy projecting his cheating and oedipal issues

It is MoeMofo#3035

I have no idea what we are talking about

oh, nevermind I barely slept

was for obviously

Do you like lying a lot in order to figure out how they operate?

The curiosity is good. I have the same thing. Figuring out psychology is my main autistic hobby. But you don't have to switch into many facades yourself just to get under theirs. Some people end up doing this a lot and just looking like some kind of sociopath in the end. Just saying. Basing my opinions off past relationships/interactions.

nah, I'm bad at lying unless I have time to 'prepare', I'm rather impulsive when it comes to conversation, saying the shit that comes to my mind without even realizing I said them which more often than not blows my covers, so I try to be as honest as I can because of that
at least with my close friends, I of course have a big facade I've been working on for years that I use in public, the whole 'alpha in the streets and beta in the sheets' isn't just a meme, I'm a confident leader in public but if, or rather when, I fuck up it just completely destroys my confidence and I hide it behind being an asshole and/or hyperbolizing everything

which is the most important thing I need from a partner, someone that I can talk to honestly and without fear of being judged or losing face, someone that will be honest in return and call me a retard when I act retarded or tell me I did what I should've done when I did

Yea I want a guy to be honest to me too, but they rarely ever are that way. Even you admit that you aren't so I'll tell you right now I think you are a fucking retard and what you did wrong is having any kind of public facade which is based on what others think of you anyway. That's why you are so mixed up and insecure.
inb4:
>I'm not insucure
Yes you are. Not only did you admit it several times but if you relate to half the words in the image you posted then yes you are.

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oh trust me, I know I am and I have no problem admitting it on an anonymous laotian imagehosting service

and having a facade is what people do, do you even know of someone that doesn't?
it depends on the situation of course, but you can't expect a male to admit to having his peepee get all hard at the idea of worshipping his girl's feet or that he's so scared of failure he sometimes feels like crying
it's just how the culture is, I don't want to lose the little I have because of stupid shit like that, I realize that I am the exception, not the rule, and that most people are merciless when it comes to these things

again I don't care because this is anonymous and I'm nobody, but if we were talking in public then I sure as hell wouldn't tell you nearly as much, unless it was obvious that you were interested in me and that you made me understand that, in which case I'd try and slowly, really slowly let you understand everything and grow more and more honest with you, hoping that you were that person I can be truly honest with

I can't just ignore these feelings, I tried before and it didn't work out at all, that shit is who I am sadly and I don't really think I'll ever change
or if I can or even if I want to change at all desu

and that's why the *lies* is in there, it really depends on how deep and how far along the relationship is, because depending on that then I don't know if I can trust her enough to open up completely and/or if I can be sure she won't see it as a deal breaker and leave me or something
and it depends on the size of the lie too
idk, these are really complicated matters that must be dealt over weeks if not months of relationships, not in a thread on some internet forum

>an anonymous laotian imagehosting service
lol.

>and having a facade is what people do, do you even know of someone that doesn't?
No, I entirely agree here. It's just easy to get fed up with how men seem to be operating within there facade sooo much more than women, out of insecurity, but then that prevents me from getting close to them. Obv.

>it depends on the situation of course, but you can't expect a male to admit to having his peepee get all hard at the idea of worshipping his girl's feet or that he's so scared of failure he sometimes feels like crying
it's just how the culture is, I don't want to lose the little I have because of stupid shit like that, I realize that I am the exception, not the rule, and that most people are merciless when it comes to these things
No you know guys like you should cultivate your facade so we can destroy the normie culture from within like secret agents do.

>again I don't care because this is anonymous and I'm nobody, but if we were talking in public then I sure as hell wouldn't tell you nearly as much, unless it was obvious that you were interested in me and that you made me understand that, in which case I'd try and slowly, really slowly let you understand everything and grow more and more honest with you, hoping that you were that person I can be truly honest with
Yea I wish I could meet some people like this but with better minds.

I'm fairly girly, bubbly motherly and feminine in personality but when it comes down to intimate things I really like the dynamic of mommy gfd without being called mommy. I like skinny shy boys that I can push around, pin down, or pull against me when I randomly want to express how often my mind and body desire to ravage him. Heck, my ultimate fantasy is having my cute little boy on a leash and choking him with it ever so gently while I edge him endlessly while I ride him softly and kiss his whimpering body

I miss you.

u have been muted for second because your comment was not original but why is the universe retarded as well I wonder?

>but then that prevents me from getting close to them
honestly you should just force your way in there
if you know for a fact that the guy is like that, then you should just go balls to the wall and force that facade open, it's kind of what I dream of
that nice, bubbly girl that will just completely ignore my personal space and make decisions for me and stuff
see that's exactly why I have a fucking facade, a man showing his fragility and feeling weak like that in public is just a bad idea
but maybe that's just me so w/e

>destroy the normie culture
well, destroying it is going to be hard, but changing it, sure, I guess
but I don't want it to be reversed either, I'm not saying that a real role reversed couple can't exist and/or doesn't have its place in society, just that culture isn't everything
males have been the dominant partner for millions of years, you can't get rid of these instincts and stuff just by changing the culture
you can tame those instincts and make them less important to the individual, yeah, which is why we're having this discussion in the first place, but 'removing' that aspect from the culture would take thousands of years, unless we started going with the nanomachines meme

>Yea I wish I could meet some people like this but with better minds
I hope you do

They don't really exist, though there are women you can "convince" to play the role once in awhile. Very few are actually any decent at it.

I couldn't say why that's the way the world works, I suppose that's just the way womens brains are wired.

>nice, bubbly
I'm not exactly that.

Idk why you'd have to show your 'fragility and feeling weak' in public? Just cry for me alone when we fuck. Duh. Rest of your post was a bunch of bullshit.

because you said having a facade is a bad thing, but if I don't have a facade then said fragility and weakness would be seen by everyone, which would make living in society rather hard, if not a living hell

people would just start thinking I'm one of those cuck beta males they see on TV, fuck that, that's not me
and I know it's not me, but that won't stop people from thinking it's me, and don't give me none of that 'but what they think is irrelevant', that's not true, even if I don't care nearly as much about my image as other people, it still is something that anyone with any kind of self respect should care about

no, like you said, I'd rather have my big strong alpha male facade in public, and drop it completely when we snuggle at home, that I have no problems with

would you be mad if I asked your age? (27 here)

>Tfw try to be honest but embarrassed by what I actually want
Please help fembot

>because you said having a facade is a bad thing, but if I don't have a facade then said fragility and weakness would be seen by everyone, which would make living in society rather hard, if not a living hell

This is how retards really think rofl.

>I'm one of those cuck beta males they see on TV, fuck that, that's not me

Let me explain it like this: I think far far less of you for unironically uses those phases to describe people than a normie would think when watching a documentary about Chris Chan or that 45 year old dude who wanted to be a 7 year old girl. People with normal self esteem see reality for what it is. You're deep seeded insecurity is the problem, not what you are which is submissive. That's why you hate other submissives because it hits too close to home for you. You are too insecure mentally; and they remind you of 'what you could be if you were just a little worse' or some shit like that. That is your excuse for judging them.

>no, like you said, I'd rather have my big strong alpha male facade in public, and drop it completely when we snuggle at home, that I have no problems with

I would never want someone like you. I want someone I can cuddle with and love in public too. I want everyone to know we are in love obviously. I want to hang on him as I flirt with him but have him being bashful about it instead of stoic. Stoic 'manly' men do nothing for me. Sorry.

friendly reminder that being a wuss who has no self-esteem and has never actually tested their assumptions about themselves does not make you a sub