Be honest bots... Is a BF cheating on gf as bad as vice versa? imo a man cheating is just a lack of control...

If she took mine, but she slept with 4 other guys am I entitled to 4 other girls?

How open are you guys sexually with this kind of stuff?
Would she be open to a threesome? Some girls are into it

Fuck. I did actually.
What if it's not an emotional thing and I only keep it secret because it would cause a genuine misunderstanding? It's like not telling a guy who has a phobia for ants that an ant is on his shoe because you don't want him to freak out in public, he's clearly not in danger and it's not a cruel lie.

We talked about it and she kinda said she finds girls attractive but then retraced on it a little, I think her first instinct was genuine tho. She's not too sexual in general, doesn't watch porn, doesn't most of the disgusting shit I would like to try and I actually appreciate that and would like to save her from the degenerate cess pool of pop sex.

Yes. Cheating hurts like fucking hell. If either party cheats its saying that they value sex with another person more than the relationship that they have already. Don't do it, and if you want others that bad then break up with her and set her free to peruse a relationship with someone that will take her seriously. Relationships are built on trust and reciprocation, once you break that its done.

I'd say you have at least 2 wildcards man.

You're right :/ the thing is, I have this dialogue in my head constantly because my feelings for her are so strong, I can't really hurt the mother of my future kids. But again, it's not really about feelings and then I think it's like using a flashlight, just a living one.. and that's really what the other girl would be.

>entitled
No, but you are a cuck. And if you don't take a girl's virginity you'll be a cuck forever.

I relate to this a lot. I feel way too obsessed with sex, but I don't want it to get in the way of my relationship.

Maybe I should work on this instead of feeding my addiction to sex, masturbation, sexual attention, porn and all of that shit. Would save me a lot of time and sweat too. It's like stopping breathing tho, literally, I can barely go a day I get so bored.

honestly disgusting. how can you say you want her to be the mother of your kids and you 'think you want to spend the rest of your life with her' but still have the desire to fuck other girls? the issue here isn't IF you should fuck her or not. it's the fact you'd even consider it, or let it get this far in the first place. i have trouble even watching porn and getting off to it as it's not my boyfriend, and im glad that he will someday be the only one to have me sexually (and hopefully, the only one ever).
relationships are built on trust. once trust is ruined, you can't fix it. if you were my boyfriend, the fact you'd even think about being with another woman would ruin my trust in you and thus end any chances of a future together.

do you really want to give up your future together just for some side pussy? whether you've realized it or not, you've already made your choice.
she deserves better, op. if you're thinking of other girls, not only does it mean shes not the one for you, but you're not the one for her.

I agree a 9/10 showing sexual interest in you is too good an opportunity to pass up, so have at it.

But don't be lame and tell yourself it's somehow worse when girls cheat. You just have an ego and wouldn't be able to take it if your gf did the same thing. That's the only disgusting part about this.

it's called the grass being always greener. If you do that you'll instantly regret it and be end up like my dumb impulsive boomer dad who's been divorced 4 times. That feeling won't ever go away if you give it even a little bit of leeway.

don't do it, destroying a relationship over pussy is just fucking retarded, don't let thot culture influence you

Yeah I couldn't take it if she did it to me but that's probably because I know her. To me, sex ranges from sensual baby making to wanking into an old blanket at 3am. To her, it's full on emotional. If she'd fuck another dude, I'd know either she has deep emotions for him or none for me. I could fuck another girl every night and it would be like eating at another restaurant every night, not like finding love everytime.

You are such a normalfaggot that it's hard to believe this is not a bait; either way, you need to get the fuck out.
But before you do, know that cheating is basically the worst thing you can do in a relationship, regardless of gender, and you should kill yourself for even considering it seriously.

>I'd know either she has deep emotions for him or none for me. I could fuck another girl every night and it would be like eating at another restaurant every night, not like finding love everytime.

you should probably just dump her before it starts getting serious dude. You clearly don't love her like you think you do.

I think I should do what I did to all the 2-7/10s that wanted my dick, I just wank off to her texts and pics, feel disgusted for some minutes as always, use that, tell her it doesn't work, block and ghost her. I did this already like 20 times easily. I just think once I get over with one I can stop but maybe I have to fix deeper issues. Thanks every bot so far, I'll continue discussion bit you help me a lot.

It's too easy for a female to cheat so it's worse if she does, and she is thought to take it more personally on top of that so obviously a man cheating is no big deal. He just got lucky and it's her fault for choosing him, the cheating one he does it with.

cheating is a terrible thing for either side to do, but I think it's a little more understandable when women cheat. the majority of sexual interactions are men approaching/persisting, and women saying yes/no. a man cheating is likely something he had to work for, not the same for women. again, still awful for either to do.

Men are capable of impregnating many many women women can only get pregnant one man at a time

So no

I ain't doubting my feelings for her, it's out of question. We've been through a lot and it's still getting better and better. We both just have different perceptions of sex and we both know it, she sometimes even tells me that she worries she's not enough for me. And as I said, maybe (and even probably) I won't do it, I passed on raw dogging squirting 8/10s in their empty appartments already. It's just annoying that I always end up at this point and want to end this dumb primitive cycle.

It's equally bad, but considering where you are 90% of the posts are going to do mental gymnastics to somehow make it seem like it's worse if a woman does or it's somehow the woman's fault if her boyfriend cheats.

The reality it anyone who's too cowardly to break up or lacks the self-control to say no is a piece of shit.

What are you trying to say?
Interesting approach at answering the question. I actually didn't think about that aspect. But I still believe that women can control themselves easy af when they really love their man but for men it's always an inner struggle, at least for a moment, once an opportunity is there.

i dont expect to change your viewpoint on sex, but that itself isnt great, with it being able to amount to the 3am wank; i mean, you're giving away a part of your body. and energy. i get men and women tend to have different views on sex, but you're willing to give away your body and energy to a stranger solely because they're 'a 9/10', what else would you give away? it seems like a lapse in morals, judgement, and deeper thought.

plus, it's not the fact if you fucked another girl that you could have no emotions for her. that's not the issue. the issue is, that you clearly know that sex is emotional to her- as it should be to anyone that respects themselves and their partner- yet, you still would disrespect that to get your dick wet. you're breaking her trust.

this is why marriages fail. there's always going to be someone hotter, someone who can fulfill a certain thing your partner can't. but that's not how you sustain a marriage or a relationship. if you're always seeking to fulfill your need, your want, you're not focusing on hers; and vice versa. if you're open with each other, and you both try to make each other happy, it can only prosper. i only see selfishness, and hiding coming from your side, op. this'll fail sooner or later with your line of thinking.

Just fight it dude. It can be a struggle but you'll be a better man for it. No better feeling than sticking with your oneitis through thick and thin without giving into normalfag temptation and degeneracy.

btw off topic, is she asian?

Been there if you do it you will lose her and regret it for the rest of your life if she truly is your oneitis

Thanks man this had a lot of good stuff in it, I know I have issues with this and I'm still figuring things out. I'm 20 btw, we've been together sincs we were both 15 and this whole "enjoy your youth" propaganda shit is catching onto me lately I feel like. It's too valuable to throw away, I'd probably give anything once it's gone.

is right.
And the fact that you've already gone this far with the other chick means you don't actually love your gf nor have legitimately serious intentions with her. You know it'd destroy her, but you don't care. You come here to alleviate you guilt instead.

You know what guys... wait a second, I'll end it right now.

Imo you just feel this way because you havent fucked enough women and you think fucking some hot girl is some kind of great experience you dont want to miss out on. The grass is always greener in this situation usually, so dont cheat because thats fucked up and you will hurt her when shes done nothing wrong. If you really cant resist, break up and start fucking other girls. I guarantee youll realize you didnt miss out on as much as you thought you were. For me sex is one of the most important things - my gf and I have amazing sex. Yeah of course I still think about fucking other hot girls I see out but I know through experience I have very little to gain by cheating or breaking up to fuck other girls considering all the good things I have in my relationship.

>Once a woman cheats in a relationship it's over for good.
exactly, and the major reason why this is true is because the man refuses to take her back no matter how much she begs/cries/lovebombs etc, women on the other hand are more likely to take back a cheater.

Germanfag btw, you can translate for yourself if you want.. That's just pic related in context, yeah I just played the game there...

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And... this. Plus I blocked her. Thanks for your help guys and girls, guys like me are scum and I HAVE to fix these dumb urges. It's not normal nor healthy.

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btw... anyone been through something like this? Does nofap or something work? I mean, I have the support of my gf. Maybe I should show her what I've been doing or no? She maybe could help me or I'll damage the relationship to no return.

Its not bad when a guy ''cheats'' on a female because there is no permanent damage to the male reproductive system or psyche when he has sexual intercourse. If anything performing sex on multiple females will boost both his sexual and mental health. This is not the case when it comes to the female reproductive system. The vagina suffers irriversible damage every time the female is fucked. It is a perfect example of the Joule expanion. Once the vagina has been opened, it can never return to its original state. The damage is often times obvious when observing the vagina from the outside but most of the damage is actually dealt to the inside. Anybody who has fucked a prostitute will know this to be obvious. Im not even going to touch the psychological damage that occurs when females sleep with more than one man because I don't have the time right now. Once a female has been fucked once her value depreciates rapidly. The female knows it and we know it. We've hear it a million times, but I'll say it again. Females age like milk.

Do not show her I repeat do not show her she will either cheat or end the relationship

Cheating can expose an uneven power dynamic in the relationship. For example the girl could be much hotter with a lot more friends, so as soon as she cheats it exposes that dynamic. It also brings up the questions as to why she's dating an otherwise incel when she could do a lot better, and how often has she been cheating on any other times she just goes out.

When dudes cheat it's most likely due to the damage fighting has done to the relationship and a momentary lapse in judgement due to a hottie throwing herself at him.

Back to what you were getting at, supposedly women view sex more from an emotional standpoint, however the uneven power dynamic is due to women participating in vain hookup culture, which the dude could be particularly averse to.

cant read german but i got the blocked part so i'll assume its a rejection. it's a step in the right direction, op, and i'm proud.

it's just a step though; continuing to reject and not seek chances like this is what's important. even if it seems just like online nudes sending, like i said above; you're giving time, energy, and giving pieces of yourself away to strangers where you could be dedicating it to further yourself or your current relationship.

i hope you really think about what's important to you, rather than falling for the concept that sex with hot people is the peak of your youth, or the 'best' thing. it's shallow, and temporary. based off the fact you went that far already, i wonder how truly emotionally invested you are in her... but, if you really love her as much as you'll say, you'll realize that the pureness, and dedication in a relationship that's started at such a young age is truly beautiful, much more than any pussy you could get is.

on your deathbed, you'll be remembering your wedding, the births of your children, etc; the true peaks and pivotal moments in your life. you won't be remembering the 20 year old pussy you got, because in the grande scheme of it all, it's meaningless. hopefully, you'll realize this all- truly realize it- and work to build a meaningful, fulfilled future with this girl, and don't fall for the meme that's most modern 'relationships'.

>Has GF
>9/10 sends him flirty pic

NORMALFAG GET THE FUCK OUT!!!!!!!!

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thanks man, I basically said I can't do all this to my gf, it's very wrong and wished the girl good luck. You're so right, I just text my girl or call her once I get an urge and just ask her about the day and tell her about me, I do this too seldom.

do not show her- if she's already mentioned her sexual insecurities she'll lose her trust in you and feel miserable. her depression and lack of trust willl end the relationship. but, don't EVER do it again. just be more open to her along the lines of what you'd like to try sexually, and that experience will likely bring you two only closer.

but, conversely, i don't think she'll cheat, given her history with op and how he describes her. unless they're both normies in the mindset that sex is just another recreation (and from what op says, she isnt. he might be though)

It's disgusting if anyone cheats. End of discussion.

im real glad to hear this, and hope what i said helped. i think that's a good step, op. i wish you and your girl the best.

I'm basically just an incel with a lot of time, I just lift and have a normal face. And yeah my girl is special, it seems I'm not. I really have to get things in order before stuff becomes serious, we're finally moving together in a couple of months again, she's been living with 2 of her friends and I've been living with random roommates, no connection. I only have her, my family and one friend I can drink, fight and cry with. Why am I even sharing this

By serious I mean, sharing a place, starting a family, stuff that if you destroy it is unforgivable and the worst thing possible in a lifetime.

No. I've cheated on my gf over 10 times. When a woman cheats, it's unforgivable and she should be severely punished.

>the issue is, that you clearly know that sex is emotional to her- as it should be to anyone that respects themselves and their partner- yet, you still would disrespect that to get your dick wet. you're breaking her trust.

>there's always going to be someone hotter, someone who can fulfill a certain thing your partner can't. but that's not how you sustain a marriage or a relationship. if you're always seeking to fulfill your need, your want, you're not focusing on hers; and vice versa.

I've made this mistake. It cost me the relationship. I didn't see what the big deal was then. I'm starting to get it now.

youtube.com/watch?v=DClJto5XyTE&t=0s
Just released today.

im glad to be here and talk this out with you. you seem reasonable, and you seem pretty aware this is something you should correct and something you're willing to work on.

im glad you realize that it's unforgivable, and unfixable. a lot of people say it but don't truly realize it. you dont have to be there every waking second, but even a presence is enough. i love watching my boyfriend play vidya, or do things. it's the little things that count when you're together, and making sure she knows that you enjoy being with her. sounds like we have a similar friend situation, but it isnt something that you should fear if you can maintain those relationships.

>my girl
>gimme a pass
Here's your pass: leave Jow Forums.

She is just using you for validation that she is attractive enough to get a guy in a relationship to cheat with her. Stop talking to her.

They both speak the end, a man cheating just makes it a slower burn. It marks the relationship with distrust that slowly rots away the relationship. She'll slowly take her love away and become cold until it's unbearable for all involved. It's about the same...

family life lowers testosterone and makes men impotent
if you want your man to stay a man you pretty much *have* to look the other way
google it

Yeah thanks for being here, really. I guess for a guy it's still kind of different because we're hardwired quite.. hard. Doesn't excuse it though, when I think of her I literally can't do anything sexual with someone else anyways. Even fapping gets complicated. Maybe that's the solution, more exposure to her. Also, you're right it's the small things, I love those weekenss where she's on the bed, working on something or reading a book while I watch my updates on stuff and we can cadually go up to eachother and share a kiss.

spend as much time with her as you can without 'getting tired of her' (some people say it happens, i can't say such a thing has happened to me before though)

one day, you'll die, or the relationship will end- whichever comes first. don't leave yourself with regrets or what ifs by not spending time with her, if you realize it could be something you do more.

i personally get off to him, and honestly can't even get off to the idea of other men... even if it's just the guy in porn, i have to make sure not to look at their face and the actor has his build in order for it to work.

both are bad, if you can't control your "urges" don't be in a relationship. if you're not happy with your SO, leave. if his dick isn't getting you off and it's hindering your relationship, don't get dick elsewhere while pretending to still be loyal to him. if she isn't the sexy slut you want her to be in bed, leave.

I have no tolerance for cheaters and if you cheat on your SO then you deserve to be cheated on as well.

It's not as bad and I'll tell you why.
1. The first assertion I'd like to make is that girls are the more attractive gender. Just as in ducks the male is more attractive (eg. his mating strategy is to impress the female duck with his plummage), there's an imbalance of attractiveness. The human female's mating strategy is to impress the human male with her body, prettiness and hygiene. The male mating strategy is one of actions. A male demonstrates what he can bring to the table through actions, accomplishments, prevailing in difficult situations, etc. Even height and big muscles are mostly an indicator of what the man is capable of doing.
2. The second assertion is that because of the points mentioned earlier men are sexually attracted to women on a mostly physical level, while women are attracted to men they perceive as a strong and reliable, responsible mate.
3. The third assertion I'll make is that it takes significantly less effort for a man to give his contribution to a pregnancy. This is self evident.
4. And the last assertion I make is that humans in the wild, removed from civilisation mate for relatively long periods compared to other non-monogamous species, because of the complexity and relatively slow development of the human child. Humans will mate for multiple seasons, around 5 years seems to be the average.
So the conclusion is this: When a man has sex with a woman that doesn't necessarily means he's attracted to her as a person, because of point no 2. On an instinctual level the man knows he has the option to just walk away, while the woman knows she doesn't because she's going to be the one carrying a child. So when a man cheats he just wants to get off, but when a woman cheats the deepest, most honest part of her soul wanted to live with that man for the next 5 years and wanted to keep him around so he would help him with the child.
but if you cheat then you're a degenerate who can't overcome his base instincts, just like a woman

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You sticks. A creature like you doesn't deserve a gf

since you blocked her OP can you post the rest of her nudes?

Fuck I have to relearn german, such a majestic language.
It says something like "I'm sorry/it causes me sadness, but that would be wrong. I can't do that to my gf, I wish you luck!"

Schwul uezs

If a guy with no kids cheats, he's a scumbag who's ruining his relationship, deserves to lose it. But that's all there is to that. If it blows up on him, things can get sorted out, and she'll be free to move on with her life.

If a girl is pregnant and has a boyfriend, he's assumed to be the father, so her risking getting pregnant from someone else in secret is a tremendous deception, preparing to steal lifelong support from her boyfriend, that's what's really nasty.
When parents cheat, they risk the core relationship of their children's families, which is tremendously negligent, maybe worst of all.

Hey you're pretty good.

based and chadpilled my nigga.