Is it immoral for me to buy hamburger meat and other animal products for my neighbor if im a vegan?

He sounds like a subhuman who should die
Help him with that

>yeah but im an accesory to murder
Jesus the jumping jew

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I've never seen a racist vegan before. Jow Forums is truly a fascinating place.

No no, he's saying its wrong to eat nigger slaves

Creating a hypothetical about slaves doesnt really make you racist, lul. I mean he might be, i guess, but its Weird how you'd jump to that conclusion. Not him, just saying.

woops, meant this for
to argue against the calim that OP is racist.

It's funny how you think eating meat is a sin and comparing it to killing slaves.. it's food
and yes you should get your neighbor food, i mean unless you wanna help him with his obesity thing

>A question for you though, would you eat lab grown meat/animal products?

another VERY interesting philosophical question. i actually gave some thought to this, and i cam to the conclusion of no, i wouldnt. now i do think it is much less ethically wrong to eat lab grown meat as theres no suffering produced by it, but something in my guts just feels wrong about it, its hard to explain. i just think its better if i stay away from it

>enabling him
exactly, thats my qualm with helping him. im indirectly supporting the farm industry by helping him to buy meat

now he will buy meat regardless if i help him or not because he gets his girlfriend to buy him meat sometimes, but still im an accessory his his meat consumption

>In fact purchasing meat without consuming it is arguably worse than consuming meat without purchasing

i'd argue against this, because im not the one consuming the meat, my neighbor is. and he will eat all the meat bought, he eats everything that he puts his eyes on. im not eating the meat myself and he will buy the meat one way or another, but through me he is more efficient with his finances, which im trying to help him with

im sure he's not too far off from death. hes 49 years old, obese and a heavy cigarette smoker. his is is handwriting, notice how bad it is, im pretty some some handwriting analysis would indicate that he's close to death

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>would not eat lab grown meat
>would buy meat

It sounds like you are a vegan for reasons of purity rather than utilitarianism then. The problem with eating meat is only that it causes you to finance animal suffering, or for others to finance animal suffering on your behalf.

Consider three scenarios.
>1. I hire someone to assassinate you, cook your body, and feed it to me.
>2. I hire someone to assassinate you.
>3. You have already died, and I cook and eat your dead body.

I would argue that scenario 3 is gross and socially taboo, but not necessarily evil. Scenario 1 and 2 are both almost equally bad, even though I don't actually eat you in scenario 2.

>>enabling him
>exactly, thats my qualm with helping him. im indirectly supporting the farm industry by helping him to buy meat
no, you dense homo, that's not exactly it.
forget the source of the food, forget the composition of the food.
what you are enabling is a person to be a shitty person.
the fact that you seem more concerned about your involvement in the meat industry and are completely ignoring or unaware of the reality of the human side of this should mean something to you.

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i dont like niggers. they commit a lot of crime and are very stupid and hypocritical. the guy made a correct assumption about me. but to me fair i dont like a lot of people. im largely a misanthrope who hates all races of humans, but i do dislike some more than others. i honestly just want the world to burn

>Help him with that

the thing is, i offered him help quitting cigarettes with trying to introduce him to vaping or showing him studies on magic mushrooms and how they are amazing for quitting cigarettes and he hold me he doesnt want to quit. he told me he's going to smoke until his last breath and that he wants a cigarette placed in his mouth when they put him in his tombstone

you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink, as they say. he doesnt want to change

i forgot to say that he will eat the meat one way or another. this guy, who's been to a dozen different jails for drug dealing, is a pathological liar and a hypocrite and is 400 pounds, has a girlfriend meanwhile im a 28 y/o virgin

he sometimes gets his girlfriend to buy food for him, but he complains how she steals some of the money he gives and and would prefer if i do it for him as i dont steal from him

>when they put him in his tombstone
larper please go

why do vegans always have to let everyone know they are vegans? Don't lie, you know you only made this thread to let everyone know that you vegan

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>i forgot to say that he will eat the meat one way or another.
If you're confident that he'll consume the same amount of animal meat either way then I suppose its ok. Just make sure you get all your money back, otherwise you will have essentially financed meat-eating which he would not have been able to do on his own funds.

I wouldn't say you're enabling the factory farm complex - but you ARE enabling him to be a lazy sack of shit.

I mean if he's on the dole and the size of a hamplanet, perhaps if he got up off his ass to get his own groceries (and maybe went out and looked for a job) he'd loose some weight.

I'd say do it, but make him feel like a lazy sack of shit for not running his own errands.

>what you are enabling is a person to be a shitty person

yes, but i cannot change him. this person is set in his way. he will always be a shitty person. im just helping him out, because he spends his welfare check all on the first day like a moron, and for the latter half of the month he starves and steals everyone's food and complains that he's hungry, when hes shorter than me and hes 400 pounds at least

maybe grave or coffin was a better word? same thing

first of all, i agree with your opinion on the third scenario, but i would decline the meat regardless

second of all, im vegan for a whole bunch of reasons. at first i tried a vegan diet for the health benefits, as i didnt like being fat and the health benefits of going vegan were very appealing to me. then after several months i quit it because i missed meat and because jesus ate meat in the bible, so it cant be THAT bad

later on, i learned that the absolute earliest christian denominations that existed right after christ's death were ALL vegan, and considered our gospels of matthew mark, luke and john an abomination. its noted by several historians that these heretical christian sects has their own account of jesus who was a vegan, and theres a whole bunch of information available that claims that jesus was a vegan

im not sure if this is 100% true, but its enough to push me towards veganism. another that was very appealing is they did a study on vegans, and compared to other diets, they had the largest portion of the brain that was associated with compassion. eating meat literally decreases the size of the compassionate part of your brain. i found this very odd but its another reason why im a vegan

but i too am a lazy sack of shit. im a mentally ill retard who's on government assistance and id be homeless and begging for money if the government didnt supply me with enough money for sustenance. not to mention i cant change him, nor is it my fucking problem. if he wants to live how he's living, who am i to tell him he cant do that. the guy has free will and he chooses to be an obese cigarette addict who watches tv all day. its his life, let him be

once again, you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make it drink

actually originally i just gave him food and spent easily over 100$ on food on him, because i largely dont care for money and hes my neighbour. the bible really influenced me with the whole "love thy neighbour as thy self" bullshit standards, so i just rolled my eyes when id see half my potato supply missing or when i see food i barely touched entirely gone. sometimes id just buy him random food that was on sale and sometimes id even buy him food hed give me on a list

im not bitter about it remotely, i dont care for the money in the slightest, but i dont like him stealing my food and then lying to me about it, so thats why im trying to help him with buying him food. i also upgraded my internet and bought him netflix (which he pays for half), and i bought him weed which he asked me but again he is paying for the marijuana entirely

again, im not here to judge him, im just here to help him spend his money wisely on the things he needs every month so he doesnt have to revert to stealing when he's broke

>the absolute earliest christian denominations that existed right after christ's death were ALL vegan
Really? Paul wasn't, and I don't think we have any sources earlier than Paul. Where are you getting this from?

>eating meat literally decreases the size of the compassionate part of your brain.
That's probably not what's happening. My guess is that more compassionate people tend to have more compassion for animals, and are therefore more likely to be vegan. It's a selection effect.

the ebionites, the nazarines, and the essenes were all vegan. also im pretty sure the dudes who wrote the dead sea scrolls vegan, but i dont remember

again i could be wrong about this, but i do infact know that a lot of super early christians were vegan, and thats enough to convince me. also james the brother of jesus was a vegan, and thats easily enough to influence me

also paul was a false apostle who was a serial killer and who never met jesus. i dont understand why hes even in the bible, i believe the books of paul belong in the trash