How long have you been lifting seriously?

How long have you been lifting seriously?
Has it made any difference in how people treat you?

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Been lifting for about 9 months. It's really helped my relationship with my sister. We used to barely talk to each other, now we pretty much do everything together. She's kind of a cardio bunny so when I added in running 2x a week we started bonding.

That's actually very sweet.
How do you feel about other guys at the gym staring at your sister's ass?

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>having gigabytes of random e-thot videos saved because all women know how creepy you are

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did u fuck her yet?

Well i mean i stare too so it doesn't bother THAT much.

y-you got any pics?

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Been lifting for like two weeks, and outside of my roommate talking about it half-jokingly nothings's changed. I'll get there someday though, bros.

fucking samefag

5 years now... my lifts suck though because I am inconsistent

People started treating me better when I 1st lost weight, then I got cocky and acted like an asshole and now I am considered a human being instead of a fat sack of shit like I originally was.

Those posts weren't made by me. That's disgusting.

It's my local waitress and she's a very sweet girl not some "e-thot".

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Been lifting for 2 years now. Did a whole 180 in my life and went from looking like some creepy faggot to someone respectable, and I have gained a lot more respect from people. Now I have friends who enjoy hanging out with me and my dad is proud of me.

I have the job of "loud american" here near Tokyo and while everyone already talked to me like I'm an idiot, the effect has risen sharply from when I weighed 165lbs to now at 195lbs.

In public in general I'm treated like an obnoxious tourist until I speak, but that's mostly the demeanor of the people

Oh I've been lifting on and off for probably 6 years, consistently for 1 year.

for a lil while
people actually respond to what i say when i'm in a group, whereas when i was a fatass i would just be ignored

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10 years. Absolutely, it has made a big difference. People are way less likely to treat you like shit, and women are generally trying to get your attention.

And you record her like some creepy soiorbitor to jack off too
yikes

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I tip her well and we have a very good relationship so it's nothing creepy.

Three months in, only a cousin has noticed as far as I know.

Like three years of being conscious of fitness. I've tried to go aesthetic these past four months. I can see abs and am a pretty low body fat. People don't really treat me any differently though.

Yeah your not the guy who records those videos

take screenshot

about a year and a half. now people don't fuck with me as much and respect me a little bit more. family is fairly proud of it too

I get more attention from girls now, but too bad I'm still a Dyel retard on the inside.

Forgot to mention that it's been two years this February.

I don't. But I've trained Muay Thai for years and once people know that they respond like I am dangerous.
I don't tell them about my stuffed animals.

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My sister's trans, so I guess it contributes to the whole equality thing and makes for a more harmonious and tolerant world

>she
>her
>sister
>trans
This future sucks and the western world needs to fucking die already.

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i clicked and stayed for the cute girl

Not who you responded to but you should learn to just let people do whatever the fuck they want.
As long as transgender-lobbies don't force bullshit into the mainstream, there's no reason why you should treat them like shit.
There's a huge correlation between mental illness and trans but not all of them are terrible people. If you're hating them out of ideological reasons, you're no better than crazy trannies pushing for biological men lifting with women

>t. used to hate them but got to know nice, down to trans people

Down to earth* lmao

>you should learn to just let people do whatever the fuck they want.
Yeah naw. Pedophilia will be legal soon thanks to that mindset.

Gay people and trans etc have a mental illness and playing along with it is bad for them.
It isn't about hating them it is about loving them and society.

If your grandpa was schizo and thought there were gremlins living in his feet, you would stop him from removing them.

WHY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, would you allow your brother to say he is a girl and remove his genitals and be fucked by men and join a category with a 41% suicide rate?
>if they aren't
Stop right fucking there. They are. Free speech is being removed under the pretense of tolerance and inclusivity.
Stop turning this world intp 1984
If you really cared about them you wouldn't be for them beings apart of a group that almost of which commits suicide.

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>Gay people have a mental illness
>Implying omega Chad Greeks were mentally ill

>Pedophilia will be legal soon thanks to that mindset.
Nice strawman, obviously I'm talking consenting adults

I'm a pharmacist and I can assure you that there's absolutely no proof for homosexuality being a mental illness. Trans is obviously different and you lumping them together won't do your argument any good if you're trying to play the good good samaritan.
The science isn't settled and we should continue looking into it. Not all transgender are created equal and there's plenty of subgroups which are effectively treated if you're going by suicide statistics. You're implying that not-transitioning will erase suicide which isn't true either.
Overall you're trying to simplify the argument so it fits your worldview, accept that there's layers to everything.
I AGREE that there are a lot of transgender people who need different treatment and shouldn't be encouraged. To identify which is which should be the center of research and I AGREE that blind encouragement is unhealthy.

>trying to create a baby in a man's asshole isn't mentally ill

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Yeah, of course. Really though, it changed how I treated myself. This is what made it worth it.

>2018 movie "girl" shows a 13 year old boy full frontal nude as trans
>Desmond is amazing
>etc
No the slippery slope is real.

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If you're that scared about a slippery slope, I sincerely hope you're living a 1950's life. No anal, no oral, celibate until marriage, lights off etc.
Chances are you're going to jerk it to some insta thot like the hypocrite you are.
Ethical norms change and you should figure out what's right for you on an individual basis, either way invoking the slippery slope is going to be wrong though.

I actually do lmao.
I'm a born again Christian. I don't watch porn and I am waiting until marriage to bust a nut.
I spend all the extra time I get from not being a degenerate on self improvement and working an additional job.
And no the slippery slope was proven right. Every time.
>oh we don't want affect you freedom or beliefs
Give in
>do what we say bigot or the law will hurt you
This has been the process the whole time.
Gays said "we just want to come out"
Then "we just want....
Over and over.

Desmond is amazing.

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You've got a very narrow worldview but as long as you're not a hypocrite (if true) I can respect you.
Consider keeping an open mind and constantly re-evaluating your stance, otherwise have a good life user.

Honestly the biggest difference in how people treat me came from how I started treating them (and myself).

Looking them in the eyes, walking and talking with purpose, smiling and saying thank you, small doses of physical contact. Basic human shit that an anxious loser like myself learned way too late. Getting big doesn't mean anything if you don't sort these out at the same time.

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How do you know that I'm the one who is closed minded?
Like, why do you automatically assume you're the more open minded of us?

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>Lifting for 7 years semi consistently but for sports not for aesthetics/strength focus
>Combat sports for 3 years (have cauliflower ears)
>155kg bench, 180kg squat, 90kg ohp
>6'1, 88kg/195lb, 16" arms, 14" forearms cold

Observations:
Women are pretty sexually aggressive, even publically sometimes
Most men are more respectful/timid but when alcohol is introduced I encounter significantly more alpha male posturing than normal people
Constantly encounter weird guys trying to flex/behave weird towards me, especially if they are drunk and their gf is present
People will happily assume I'm a meathead but will rarely say anything negative to my face, especially at work (nerdy stem field)
People will try to use gains as a backhanded compliment if they can

Basically, women mirin and men will be made to feel insecure and you need to be weary because an insecure drunk man may become aggressive or confrontational.

Happy to answer any questions

damn. got me.

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how did you develop those skills? any tips for someone with very low self-confidence and social anxiety?

Because your posts are logically incoherent full of non-sequiturs and other fallacies.
Bring on the fedora memes but jokes aside, it's a pretty good indicator of someone not understanding logical reasoning.
There's plenty of ways to be very conservative and logically consistent, you're not however. You're invoking scientific arguments in ways that are extremely self-serving and the equivalent of googling a study that agrees with you (there's always one). This is not how discussion works.
Again though, I don't fundamentally dislike you as long as you're not a hypocrite which you probably are but aren't if what you're saying is true.

Fuck man, looking people in the eyes in way harder than it sounds

More or less exposure therapy. Got a job (gaining competence and responsibilities helped a lot) where I had to go to some courses/lectures in another part of the country, alone and around a bunch of strangers. At the time it was awful, I used to get lethargic, nauseated and even diarrhea from social anxiety, so I was basically thrown to the wolves. But I "survived" so I told myself I could do it again even though I hated it. It got easier each time, but I'm still not at 100%.

Before that I'd just do small shit. Trying to look people in the eyes for a second more than I'd be comfortable with. Going to the mall to buy a pair of shoes/jeans was basically a mission. Not being afraid to ask people for help. Like "hey where is that thing" or "do you have any x?" Never do the virgin walk. Look forwards and never down.

Also starting a martial art did more than lifting for me in that regard. Jiu jitsu in my case. I was nauseous and dizzy from anxiety when I walked into my first class, but it worked out.

6-7 months
yes

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My secret is that I trained myself with JOI and POV porn videos. Nobody will ever know but it really helped me with eye contact with girls. Now I actively seek it out.

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About 6-9 months. Gained some strength but my main goal is to lose fat so I'm on a deficit. My lifts are shit I know but hopefully when I reach my ideal weight I can start a soft bulk because I never want to go back to be fat again. Anyways I still got probably 15 kilos to go. Currently 105kg@188cm. Lifts are 45kg OHP, BP 75kg, Squat 110kg, diddlies 120kg. Everything 5x5.

she feels so uncomfortable,how do you not see that

what the fuck mate

Unironically?

Hey I'm too cool to care

Yep, it legitimately worked. Couldn't look girls in the eye before, now I enjoy it.

Based and checked.

God she's lovely

same stats and time spent except im 79kg morning weight.

some gymbros nod at me and say hi from time to time. i've also been stared at and challenged by some highschool jocks on more than one occasion when i was walking home from the grocery store. idk why, i make an effort to break eye contact first or make space for people.

Middle aged women at my office talk about my big muscles all the time.

>local waitress
yeah that's what a sociopath creep would say

proof that nofap is bullshit

I'm going to fix this, these videos look like what a girl would ask her girlfriend to film because she thinks she looks cute, and posts it on a mongolian throat singing forum to get some compliments from perverts so that she can feel better about herself

My sister is my gf actually so as a cuck I enjoy it aswell

It's easy if you have confidence in your intelligence and speaking skills, regardless of how buff you are.

>Also starting a martial art did more than lifting for me in that regard
have been seriously considering this. will get into it now. thank you

Only a few months and honestly not that much improvement to my looks yet but i do have a more confidence which helps. I think its mostly because i know im actually doing something about my state of being.

Post more waitress vids pls

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Please be specific. If I am so egregiously incoherent, then you should easily be able to point to plenty of examples.

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22 now, started lifting when I was 16, only started having a clue about what the fuck I needed to do regarding lifting 2 years ago, only started having a clue about what I needed to do nutrition wise 4 years ago.

It's changed how people see me but I'm still the shy anxious guy I was before. I can't talk to girls unless it's a pre-arranged online date, because in my head I know they already find me attractive wheras I can't "know" that if it's real life (and it's harder to think of intersting things to say in real time). Otherwise I just get hit on by gay guys. I started wearing baggier clothes and the attention has gone down a lot. I've been lifting for about one year.

pharmacist who doesn’t even understand the concept of a ‘mental illness’ spreads his opinion on the very subject

homosexuality is a mental illness by definition - the bad stigma surrounding ‘mental illnesses’ is the real problem

Hey I actually watched this exact porn vid yesterday.

its porn?

WaitressPOV E09 Melody Marks thank me later.

most likely not going to be up tomorrow so thanks. really thought it was a creep tho

>I'm a pharmacist
Oh thank God, we have someone qualified to put a prescribed number of pills in a bottle and give them to a customer, glad to hear your opinions on mental illness LMAO

>tfw your job will be automated away in the next five years because it can be performed by an Arduino connected to a bubblegum machine

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>2 years
Not much with girl but i my parents are very proud of me for some reason

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explain the backhanded compliments

>As long as transgender-lobbies don't force bullshit into the mainstream, there's no reason why you should treat them like shit.
WELL.

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About 1 year and a half, I had originally started off as skinny fat/borderline chubby. Had always been sociable but lifting took it to the next level

People treat me so much better after cutting down.
>Strangers more likely to approach you for conversation
>People are way more forgiving of your mistakes
>A lot more smiles/friendliness from men & women alike

The biggest takeaway from this was looking good + being sociable will take you so much further in life than simply being smart. Honestly wished I started lifting as a teen.

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3 month and yeah. But what matters more is how I treat myself has changed radically. I'm happy now.

quality bait

>I can't talk to girls unless it's a pre-arranged online date

Weird, I'm the opposite. I never felt like I could come across like myself online, and I always felt a little like I was catfishing them. I hate texting and having conversations over text though.

not even the same guy but you know that's not all a pharmacist does right? u dumb

>22 y.o
>1 year
>decent gains/never skipped gym

Still barely get any matches. I am 6'1 but my face isnt pretty enough. Body doesnt matter as much as people think. Self improvement is a meme. I read tons of philosophy, improved my clothing style and lifted for a while now. Nobody gives a fuck. I will stay strong and keep going for my own sake though. But you wont get girls out of it unless you were pretty to begin with.

I will keep up gym and reading until I am 30 (will also add learning a third language soon). If life doesnt significantly improve despite my efforts I will just hang myself. It is my experiment now. Will report

yes kill it and let me live in Nordic woods.

Maybe your tinder profile just isn't that good. It's hard to tell without seeing it. Maybe you're just a good social talker. Don't get so obsessed with self improvement that it becomes your personality, no one likes that

few month
and yeah, hella lot.

women like me less
guys like me more

>7 months
a couple of people in work have noticed, made comments about me being a beefcake but thats about it. hopefully will get some mires in the coming months

My nigga.
It's better to be fuking ugly and fit than be ugly and fat.
Don't worry, as soon as you get closer to 30, women start going for anyone, because their wall is coming. Then you will be the one choosing.
Do not hang yourself. We all gonna make it.

Fuck you, there's nothing wrong with fucking 14yo girl, "pedophilia" is invented by jews.

Around 3 years.
People in real life think I'm strong and muscular, including my gf.
People on the internet think I'm weak and dyel.

When I get on a streak of lifting and dieting together, I start to lose patience for people who can't maintain one or the other in some way that feels deeper than "I can, why can't you?"

It's almost like there's some kind of neurochemical mechanism that's tracking my performance in comparison to what I perceive to be success, I have to hold back a lot of bullshit commentary about people when I'm doing well and actively remind myself that I don't really know what's going on with that. Because I'm perfectly patient and peaceful when I'm being indulgent.

maybe not in the 1900s but its more or less all commercial pharmacists do now, its not like they're still mixing up drugs in an overwhelming majority of locations

something like 5% work in research and they usually just provide oversight and theoretical guidance on projects with a ton of bio engineering grads

You know i always found it weird when girls have their feet placed inward, so i tried the same while fapping and good god, it felt amazing. Now i'm sure of it. Girls who do that are wearing and using vibrators; that's why they look so derpy all the time.

>2 weeks into ss
my squat and bench are already stalling at 190 and 105 respectively. It's making me feel like I'm just not meant to be strong

We should hang retards like you.

eat more dude you'll get there