Do heavy 3+ plate squats and deadlifts train abs enough?

Do heavy 3+ plate squats and deadlifts train abs enough?

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They require strong abs, but are not enough for abs.

If you do front squats also yeah.

no. they'll make your abs strong, but they won't look good, and won't have endurance

What's something to add for abs that I can actually progress with weights on? All ab exercises all calesthenic memes and I can't use progressive overload

Abs respond to reps better. Add reps or sets, not weight, unless it's something like a weighted or cable crunch where you need the weight to stay under a million reps.

Best to do isometrics, avoid crunches/sit-ups

Planks.

Hanging leg raise. I hold a dumbbell between my feet.
For obliques you can do side-plank rows, but people will think you're mentally handicapped.

It's unironically impossible to get the weight on your back thogyh
> the number of reps/set is what matters and not weight meme
There's a reason calisthenic kiddie abs don't look Over developed