Anybody use kratom while working out...

pills and/or concentrates are a meme.

Purely powdered kratom is like $60 for 250grams. Which is a little expensive, but 250g lasts me about 3 or 4 months.

I think the strains are mostly just a meme. I've tried like 4 different ones at this point its all the same feeling.
I use canada kratom express

Kratom has cured my homosexuality.

I used to be a wanking leftist until I started taking kratom
> it saved my life

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I usually stick to Maeng Da
don't know where the fuck you're looking, maybe in a brick/mortar store since those are notoriously overpriced. I pay $50 for 112g (224 pills)

I don't know if these sources are still good but if you're desparate, in the past I have bought from
bikhuk
socal herbs (use their search "speciosa")
indo elephant

some might not even take easy payment so tread carefully

it's all unicorn farts anyway, you have no way of knowing if any of it is legit

heard it lowers T levels but there hasn't been any studies done yet to know for sure

It’s drug and as such it has no use for daily usage - you can use it at situations where you really need it, but for that coffee already exists legally so why bother.
Anything that isn’t safe to use daily and enhances your life without any trade off isn’t even worth discussing desu.

who is this ridiculous cow child

i definitely found white kratom more energising than red

i just wish it wasnt such a pita to get in uk since they banned it though

Pajeet tier drug
>>Kratom is well-known to be addictive, as found with traditional use by natives over many years in Southeast Asian countries. Withdrawal effects similar to narcotic withdrawal and drug-seeking behaviors have been described in users in Southeast Asia.
>On February 20, 2018 the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported it was investigating a multistate outbreak of 28 salmonella infections in 20 states linked to kratom use.
If you plan on being a degenerate you're better smoking weed

is this another name for clen?

if so, yes

I take it to get high, so no. I'll stretch and foam roll and do stuff like that on it, but I wouldn't lift on it. I won't even take ibuprofen before lifting.

Buy bulk powder and put it into gelcaps.

>but I wouldn't lift on it
why not?

>Tried white vein kratom today for studying
>made me vomit thrice and feel like shit the entire day
The fuck? I just felt slightly drunk and aside from that it was fucking terrible. I still feel sick. I thought kratom was great? Did i get memed?

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it honestly just depends on the person. got friends and the same thing happens to them but i've never experienced that. always forget to tell people that aspect when i recommend it because it never happens to me

Kratom is great, I take it 3 or 4 times a week in the evenings. 2-3 grams gives me a nice energetic buzz for an hour or two then puts me into a relaxed state for the rest of the night. Better mood lifter than traditional opiates and far less addictive. Completely obliterates doms and minor aches and pains. Never had a problem with dependence or withdrawals. Used to lift on it and it was great for that as well.

DO NOT TAKE KRATOM, ITS A OPIOD LIKE DRUG THAT WILL LOWER YOUR TEST AND GET YOU CONSTIPATED, YOU WILL GET ATTACKED TO IT IN A WEEK, I WAS USING IT TILL I REAILZED THAT I WOULD WAKE UP WITH A FLU UNTIL I TOOK MY DOSE

Yea you really want to avoid daily use. My m8 used it every day and then went just a weekend without and felt strong, flu-like withdrawal symptoms. It's a nice effect but I'll never buy a bag of the stuff for that reason.

It's like a low grade opium. I self dosed it for depression. But now it sucks if I go a day without it. I'm aimelss, depressed, and tired. So it's got it's addictive downsides. You also quickly b uild up a tolerance and it's got a hard cap bc you'll vomit before you get a stronger dose.

this is mostly true. Though I never got constipated

It has painkilling properties, and I don't like the idea of not knowing what's wrong until after I've done too much damage. Same reason I don't take ibuprofen or anything like that prior to lifting.

Don't take it every day, dipshit. I only use it recreationally every 1-2 weeks on the weekend and I've it's been easy to manage for years.

I just wish its downsides weren't so downplayed by the AKA and kratom sellers. So often I hear "the withdrawal is as bad as/easier than coffee's withdrawal".
People using kratom to get off stronger opioids, this might be true for them. In comparison to the withdrawals they are used to, the withdrawal from kratom is probably nothing.
But, if you are one of the many people using kratom for other purposes, not just because you're trying to quit heroin, you can have some pretty nasty withdrawal.
Someone hasn't used any drugs before, hears that kratom is this super light, safe drug (in comparison to harder drugs), and thinks it's just a toy. Then they use it daily for months, try to stop, and don't understand why they can't stop shaking their legs, why they have diarrhea, why they can't sleep and why they suddenly hate their life.

>just don't use it every day
The same could be said about every addictive drug.

very confused by some of you retards. I've used it once daily in the morning for multiple months at a time, (4-6grams as a tea), and then once I run out and forget about ordering more I go weeks without. There is absolutely zero fucking "withdrawal" I don't understand what kind of giga-amounts you kids must be doing to feel withdrawals.

It's just a better coffee/caffeine for me. That's it. I never feel addicted. It's a nice wake-up buzz.

Mind you I'm also a large sized person at 225lbs, not a manlet.

If you make it properly it tastes like green tea, stop being a pleb

another person with the "nasty withdrawals" meme. I really don't get it. They must be taking it at retard high doses multiple times a day?

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I absolutely love Kratom but never have I done Kratom and wanted to workout. I'm sure it probably has benefits for lifting but It's never given me the motivation a preworkout or something like that has. Hell even booze motivates me more.

Yes. If someone takes it too much, exceeding responsible use, they will experience withdrawals. That's my point. When abused, it has withdrawal.

You used it responsibly and were fine, that's good, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about it being abused, and unfortunately, I believe kratom sellers try to hide the fact that it can, in fact, be abused. And, I believe this leads to naive customers, who have no drug experience, underestimating the drug's potential, and abusing it.

The problem isn't the kratom vendors, the problem is people who are too stupid to do their research before ingesting a new substance.
Vendors are just trying to make money, it does them no good to say that kratom is addictive.

What causes way more harm is doctors prescribing hardcore painkillers after surgery. A supposed authority telling you to take a narcotic in repeated dosages that get you high as a kite all day.
Do they ever warn you about their addictive properties? Nope.

I'd believe it, simply because it acts similarly to opioids, but that's just speculative broscience.

For people asking about pricing: you should not be paying more than $70-$80 per kg. PER KILOGRAM. Go to r/kratom for sources.

Two tablespoons a day is what I took / take for a week. That was enough to have me suffer ill effects if I didn't have it for a day. There are also multiple strains and concentrations of the active ingredient. Are you being maliciously ignorant? Do you understand that people have different reactions to different drugs? If you are of white european phenotype in the US, you have a high chance of being susceptible to opiate addiction. Of which Kratom is one.

>225lb
This is a large (pun intended) reason why you could take as much as you do. At that weight it's basically a microdose.

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> I believe kratom sellers try to hide the fact that it can, in fact, be abused. And, I believe this leads to naive customers, who have no drug experience, underestimating the drug's potential, and abusing it.

Yes, I also believe this to be the case from looking at all their promotional videos / ads.

Based

>calling your own posts based
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Hahahahahaha! Try some Calea zacatechichi, the Mexican Dream herb. You will wash your mouth with kratom to try and get rid of the taste.

Opiates taste like shit. Grind up some oxy and you'll see an even worse flavor. It's like kratom but stronger

I'm addicted to it physically but it only takes a few days before I feel back to normal. By the third week all the mental withdrawal such as anxiety and depression are gone. The side effects I have are lowered sex drive and some irritability.

Don't take it everyday like me and you should be fine.

Just take phenibut. Does exactly the same thing and is much cheaper. 125g for $35. At a gram a day that’ll last you four months. Loosens me the fuck up for boxing and somehow gives me more energy in the gym despite being an anti anxiety. Although if I train twice a day towards the time I go to bed I start to slur my words from fatigue. Still worth it tho

I do, gives insane amount of extra energy when mixed with caffeine, I could already tell this will be banned in all the usa soon and not long until it lands on the usada list

Sanctum kratom

user, don’t take phenibut every day. It’s extremely addictive.

Kratom is too addictive, i prefer lions mane.

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It's an opiate class drug (according to the FDA) so it's a gains goblin.

You can become hooked bad on this shit, the withdrawals can be as bad as any other heavy abused opioid and similar to any other opiate junkie you'll loose all motivation.

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>You can become hooked bad on this shit, the withdrawals can be as bad as any other heavy abused opioid and similar to any other opiate junkie you'll loose all motivation.
I guess it's possible in extreme cases, but in my experience it's not even close to a proper narcotic like oxycodone.
Kratom is totally manageable for me, I can have a bunch of it lying around and not even touch it. But if I have oxycodone anywhere near me then I'm gonna abuse it.

You tried DMAA bro

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DANGER DANGER
KRATOM IS A DENGEROUS OPIOD DO NOT ORDER KRATON OFF THE INTERNET IT WILL KILL YOU AND MAKE YOU ADDICTED

Anybody tried DMAA bro

POST YOUR STUDY STACK
This is mine
10mg ritalin
150mg armodafinil
200mg caffeine
A fizzy b-complex chaser

Bro DMAA you tried it?

No
I hear it's good for weight loss and dying

DMAA bro, not DNP. You tried it bro?

Still no.
Unless it was in one of the shady preworkouts that I've taken since I started working out, in which case I probably have and probably liked it.

I work at a rehab and kratom is a joke

Opiate withdrawal is a joke as well desu. Junkies are just huge pussies. That's why opiates are their substance of choice in the first place. It's a drug for pussies with trauma who don't want to feel. Nobody dies from opiate withdrawal. Alcohol is way more dangerous. If I were on drugs I'd be on meth 100%. Meth makes you a gay prostitute though. Not even gay you just want to get fucking weird with it.

>Not even gay you just want to get fucking weird with it.
Can confirm this happens to some people on amphetamines
People who don't release their sexual tensions enough take adderall then spend 9 hours straight masturbating to trans granny bestiality porn
I call these people retards

>taking anything beyond Ritalin
Everything else on your list isn’t even close to being a potent so why even bother. When you take Ritalin as someone without adhd then you need nothing else and should already had crystal clear focus

I have ADHD, and also 10mg ritalin is the minimum dosage.
I could easily take 3x as much and improve my focus that way, but in my experience that's not good for my mental health