Don't ask us to help you dose your AI. It's very individual.
Oral-only cycles put strain on the liver and cause a shutdown of natural testosterone production for not a lot of benefit. Just pin and thank us later.
SARMs and prohormones cost more than steroids, do less and have the same sides. Don't waste your time.
No source talk allowed.
This isn't a medical forum. Stop asking for medical advice and go to a doctor.
Don't ask us to help you schedule your pinning dosages. Use steroidcalc.com/
Just started tren, halfway through a 16 week cycle (doing tren and test e). Pinned yesterday and today im feeling very lethargic and tired, is this normal? or do you guys think its dodgy gear?
Adam White
Tired on Tren? New to me, maybe your water intake isn't high enough.
The only reason you should get tired on Tren is because you go from averaging 9 hours sleep to 6 hours sleep on tren per night.
Chase Lopez
Running deca only at the moment and am really struggling with my appetite. Im still getting the food down ok but it feels a bit forced. Doing some TT shakes which are helping.
I'm running Deca only, and the hunger is something else. I'm only cruising on 150mg but I can't stop thinking about eating. I have some healthy snacks like boiled eggs and Greek Yogurt for in between meals but it's absolutely ridiculous.
Benjamin Martinez
There's no way I would be able to cut on Deca... The hunger alone is tough on the mind... For me it is... I don't mind right now because I'm trying to add some size I just don't want to get fat...
Stick to your proteins and youl be fine. Wouldnt hurt to get some extra training intensity and some cardio to keep the blood moving. Especially i you feel like you are spilling over.
Thing with deca and cutting man is its totally doable till you start eating garbage lol. As long as you avoid that you will be fine.
Tip to help you out a bit. You can add red mill potato starch to your shakes as a filler. It will help keep the hunger down and its relatively low impact on your carbs for what it is.... Sprouts sells it by the bag for like 4 bucks.
I can never get much size on deca. Ive ran it quite a few times but I also stick to the old school high protein high fats low low carbs diet. I can make it on 20g a day if need be and it seems to do well for any drug I run.
Im on mk677, test, deca and dbol. 250mg,200mg,36mg and Ive lost 15lbs. and my midsection is getting pretty dialed in. Feeling great. Dbol started messing with my stomach a bit but thats about it. Just keeping carbs way way low.
Its how you get lean and put on size. Pic related is me.
Leo Cox
get crazy hungry on Deca or EQ. It hits Instantly. I get shaky. Like my blood sugar drops rapidly. I try to eat clean but late at night, I get insane cravings for sugar foods. The thing is, normally I dont even like sugar. I naturally lean towards salty and savory but on Deca, Ben and Jerrys calls.
Levi Ramirez
get some halo top ice cream it’s 20-25g of protein a pint
Oliver Clark
I'd recommend increasing the duration instead of the dose. make it 16 weeks.
no it's not you larper. @evanwuzihao
Ryan Morales
General rule of thumb - bigger cycles = less appetite. This is what limits a lot of people going on to do really heavy cycles, it affects your appetite.
Lots of orals can suppress appetite, Var is known for being good at this. Ephedrie suppresses appetite.
IGF is good to increase appetite, the best AAS for appetite increasing is probably EQ.
EQ never made me hungry but I found that when I was using EQ I never felt full/satiated. It was a really weird feeling. I could eat a thanksgiving turkey dinner's worth of food and not feel full.
It's just the nature of the two compounds. Each compound effects each person differently. The only thing you can really do is be aware of it and remind yourself that you aren't really hungry, it's just the compounds influencing your body's hunger signals. If it becomes unbearable, reduce your dosages until your body acclimatizes and then slowly work your dosages back up.
larger stronger cycles generally suppress appetite, i know it certainly does for me, some will say test increases there appetite but these people are generally running lower end of doses ie, 500mg-100mg a week.
orals again can suppress appetite and upset some peoples stomachs.
best things for appetite i have found is more anabolic steroids rather than androgenic, so deca and eq work well.
It’s the self-inflicted mental illness that’s undoubtedly experienced by using roids. Ever talk to a roider in person? Some of the most unhinged people on the planet, it’s just sad really.
Alexander Thompson
interesting strawmen that i never said, druggie
Carson Brown
>i’m strictly natural why tf are you in /fraud/ general?
Jaxon Barnes
gear is used everywhere. even joe rogan and jeff bezos are on TRT. you’re deluding yourself.
it’s funny because there are numerous studies which prove that anabolic steroids ruin mental health these faggots think they’re better than health professionals though, it’s so fucking funny to witness.
your point being? ultra-capitalists use it and that makes it okay and safe? genuinely, what’s your point?
Cooper Sanders
I'm on TRT and my total/free test sits around 1200/40. On 200mg of test cyp/week. Am I welcome here? Should I start just doing my own TRT so I can go higher? I want to fix my fucked up shoulder and become a freak. I don't actually don't pay much at all for TRT and I'm on HCG anyway, so my balls still work somewhat, but I'm worried about getting vanned if I do it myself. Kind of want to blast and cruise forever until I die tho. I don't have any interest in growing old whatsoever.
Julian Perez
Brehs. My package is being processed by customs. How fucked am I?
Sebastian Johnson
>if i use gear i’ll be just like JEFF BEZOS and joe fucking rogan!!! >projecting delusion
Camden Morris
u only fuck your health up if you’re on permablast mode for decades. Again another case of someone who didn’t DYOR
Also want to know how the fuck people avoid getting vanned. I JUST WANT TO BE A FREAK TOO REEEEEEEEEEE
Jacob Cook
my testosterone levels are fine, someone who needs a t-booster because they don’t produce enough naturally on the other hand....
Daniel Bell
Seems fine. How old are you?
Lucas Reed
>ultra-capitalists You mean rich people? You are just as capitalist as they are, they are just better at utilizing it
Nathaniel Gonzalez
Go away, foreskin goblin. Your tricks don't work here.
Juan Kelly
>JEWS JEWS JEWS AAAAHHH I’M NOT INSANE
Carson Hill
what a reductionist understanding of capitalism read a fucking book
Owen White
For how Long already?
Matthew Jenkins
30. Total/free was about 400/8 before starting and that was while eating clean and lifting, getting plenty of sleep, taking ZMA, hitting all micros with cronometer, no drugs, etc. Now that I've had a taste of TRT I just want MORE.
Oliver Scott
It seems extremely pseudo-scientific to reduce manliness, health and body composition to whatever your testosterone levels are; then again I would expect nothing less from Internet weirdos who don’t read books.
Ryan Wright
do the 500mg a week for 16 weeks protocol and go down the rabbit hole
What roids, sarms, peptides can help me with recovery. My grab muscles fucking sting me for like 4 months, not just through workout, but through whole day. I feel as if i am going to lose feeling in both hands really soon.
Jayden Russell
Is it okay to add clen into my first test E cycle?
Jonathan White
Oh look. It's the natties trying to shit on fraud again. >goes to a place specifically meant for steroid talk >calls people out for taking steroids
For any natty that is reading this, remember: you can be as based as you think you are but when you look in the mirror your body doesn't prove it. Maybe, just maybe, at that point you should question whether the things that people (your favourite fake natty youtubers) tell about steroids are true.
For example, if you believe steroids make your dick small you have been deluded. Instead mindlessly bashing on performance enhancing drugs, try to understand them, and you will soon realize the positives outweigh the negatives. Good luck natty copers. May you step to the light and take the red pill.
neither what i said nor implied. try to keep up. is that not what he was implying by calling me a foreskin goblin? you’re being blatantly dishonest.
Kayden Edwards
pretty much any gear will help you with recovery.
i hit back chest and arms in one day for 5 hours.
i eat my stuff go to bed and wake up the very next day feeling fully recovered.
so yeah pretty much any gear, even test alone can do this
James King
Sst order came a month late after 3 emails, bout to do bloods and see if it's legit or I bought bunk crap
Justin Wright
>May you step to the light and take the red pill. >Few understand this.
i think this is code for “my work isn’t peer-reviewed”
Nathaniel Wright
dont add anything to your first cycle, especially something like clen.
the point of a test only first cycle is to see how you react to test, since most steroids are just derivatives of testosterone. you react badly to test, frauding is pretty much over for you (highly unlikely)
adding clen to the test will make it difficult to troubleshoot if something goes wrong
1. Have no incriminating shit in your place, no syringes, drugs etc. Put it in a box and move that somewhere temporarily, your office, a school locker, etc. 2. Ideally not be present to accept the package. Live in an apartment/condo where a concierge keeps your packages and signs for stuff. Then you're out of town and you have a housesitter pick up your packages. If there's any weird bullshit how you need to go pick up the package or sign something or go to the Post office, just bail, never get it. Refuse the package, say you don't know what it is. 3. Not open for a while. Why? Controlled deliveries (putting a sensor in the package that will allow a search warrant to be executed when triggered) requires someone actually be camped out within range of the package. Also those things have a finite battery life and are using signal all the time to ping the cops and let them know it's still in range.
If anything does happen say "I'm sorry I'm going to need a lawyer present to answer any questions". Repeatedly. Never say anything else beyond your name.
Adam Richardson
>Some myths about steroids are untrue and as you can see that’s why roids are safe :)
the absolute state of you anti-intellectuals
Hudson Edwards
>Instead of mindlessly bashing on performance enhancing drugs, try to understand them, and you will soon realize the positives outweigh the negatives.
You know what brought you to this place. You wish to know what frauding could do for you. You have the desire, but you don't have the courage. It's like standing on the highest diving board of the pool. Deep down you know it's only a 10 foot drop, deep down you know the water won't hurt you. Yet you remain scared and keep standing there. All the others on the diving board next to you are jumping, yet you keep standing there. You have the desire but not the courage.
John Bennett
Op said genuinely unhinged people use roids. Op cited two individuals who are at least not "genuinely unhinged" as counterexamples
Xavier Cook
based.
jew detected. you're on Jow Forums, grow some skin (kek)
coping natty, do you still say roids are bad as your gf moans when she gets fucked in the ass by someone more muscular than you?
your prose is awful, high school tier. what a joke.
Joshua Anderson
What bf% is ideal to go down to before your first cycle?
Tyler Evans
Can't watch with volume right now at work but it includes HGH and isn't that shit like $2000/month?
Jose Barnes
Okay cool. I'm actually having it delivered to a friend's house that I know is solid. He doesnt know what's inside but said he'll hold it for me, so I got no worries I guess.
Dylan James
anti-intellectual right-winger who’s never read a medical journal in his life detected
Michael Anderson
>genuinely unhinged people use roids. was i wrong? just look at this guy:
Easton Powell
>you’re being blatantly dishonest. How DARE you accuse me of being dishonest? You think a person would do that? Just go on the internet and lies? For their own entertainment? You are sick.
Henry Evans
jokes on you im not even on roids
Bentley Rodriguez
smart choice
Jackson Long
>repeatedly using op unironically you need to go back to r*ddit honest you got owned buddy i did my first cycle at 15% bf, finished off at 18% bf but put on a lot of lean muscle mass. did a cruise, then did a cutting cycle for my 2nd cycle. im now at 10% bf. my diet wasn't exactly clean, and i'd have ended my first cycle a lot fatter if it wasnt for the properties of Test. i suggest you bookmark it and watch it properly later. its really good advice if u wanna get big in a hurry. HGH is expensive but you don't really need it yet, at this stage. HGH is like the cherry on the pie.
I would say research is key as two of these products are pretty harsh.
Robert Rogers
I don't want to get vanned though. It's why I'm on TRT. $134/mo for 200mg test + HCG + AI with a doctor checking my bloodwork every 4 months doesn't seem too bad, but I want to go a little higher and saving some money would be nice. I don't get the fuck everyone gets roids without ending up in prison.
Ethan Torres
Aight, so I'm planning to do my first cycle in June and it's the following: Total Cycle 90 days 250mg Test E E3D 250mg EQ E3D 12.5mg Aromasin E3D(1 day delayed with injections) I'll probably use Dr Michael Scally's PCT: Day 1-20 2000iu HCG every other day Day 1-30 100mg Clomid split between evening and morning every day Day 1-45 40mg Nolva the same way as Clomid And Same Aromasin dosage I'll still have a lot of HCG left so I'm wondering if I should use it during the last 1/3 do preemptively bring my tests back up artificially to make Pct easier. I'm open for suggestions and still not sure about which needles syringes to buy.
Samuel Perez
Yet when you're standing on that diving board you won't jump because you've been a pussy ass bitch since birth and you're salty over all the people that are having more fun than you. And because you're not having fun, anyone else who has is retarded and dumb. It's like fat acceptance. Let me make a new one for you though: you're the guy standing in the corner of a house party. Checking your phone every 5 seconds and not talking to anyone the whole night. How do I know that you brag about listening to classical music and try to convince everyone it's superior? How do I know that you unironically read books and try to low key brag about it to people?
Now, don't dodge the challenge. Post body. Let's see your natty gains. Prove us all wrong with your amazing progress and I'll take everything back. Don't even try to reply with natty science and without posting body, opinion immediately discarded.
Yea I know but want mad strength gains. Been doing a lot of research and they seem to be the best for that. Just need to find a decent liver protection. What if was to do the anadrol by its self? fucking savage