Be honest, when a woman gets beaten, raped or murdered do you have any sympathy for her?

Generally no, but it has nothing to do with her sex specifically. It is just that a lot of women are very shallow humanoids that I cannot muster any sympathy for.

I'm neither a roastie or a feminist, I'm just a human being capable of empathy.
Some women are horrible, some men are horrible too. Neither men nor women deserve to suffer because someone who has the same kind of genitals as them is horrible.

Those men and women deserve to suffer if they themselves are horrible. A lot of people are.

Perhaps. But if they do, they deserve to suffer equally as much as the pain they caused.
I'd argue that being rejected isn't on the same level of suffering than being raped or beated, or killed.

>Neither men nor women deserve to suffer because someone who has the same kind of genitals as them is horrible.

I don't think that the thought process of those who celebrate female misfortune is:

>She has the same genitals as horrible people, therefore she deserves to suffer!

I think it's more like:

>By the time a woman reaches adulthood, she will nearly certainly have done X number of horrible things. The number of women who will live 18 years without doing something from the set of known horrible female things is so small that the odds of this particular victim being one of them are vanishingly small. That means I can celebrate her misfortune, secure in the knowledge that she's a bad person.

This thought process may be totally incorrect in its assumptions, but...at least it's an ethos

Women disproportionately act like cancer compared to men. It's not that both genders are equal in having shitty people, it's that one has far more shitty people and enables them via anti-male feminist ideology.

Anyway women deserve to suffer, since all advancements in women's position harms men. It's not logical for men to support women, quite the contrary.

Rarely. Take those roasties who went to Morocco, I havent any pity for them. On the other hand, consider some young early-teen girls molested by pakis, I do feel sorry for them.
Id only ever really pity a faithful mother or young girl.
In fairness, I dont really care when many men suffer. I dont relish it like I do with whores. Only really if he's a father do I care at all. Although, it might be funny if a nigger or imbecile has hurt themselves in a silly way.

What kind of "horrible things" did she do, that are worthy of a punishment such as being raped, beaten or killed?
Rejecting someone? Fucking someone else?
The punishment is absolutely unfair and disproportioned to the crime. And in this case, most men deserve to suffer in the same way women did.

Men disproportionately act like cancer compared to women, depending on which standards you have for "cancer". For example, they're more violent, more likely to commit crimes, more likely to rape, more likely to be pedophiles.

>since all advancements in women's position harms men
That's not true, a world where women and men can respect each other and appreciate each other despite their differences would benefit both women and men.

I can kind of understand your position even if I strongly disagree.

Even those young roasties put themselves in that position because they willingly went to the Pakis for drugs and alcohol. It's not like the Pakis were waiting in the bushes for them. They went over to the subhumans and then blamed all men because of a position they put themselves in.

This is universally the case. Women making bad decisions and then blaming men for them.

Why do you think I'm talking about men or women who have rejected people? Pretty dumb and boring of you, desu.

>Why do you think I'm talking about men or women who have rejected people?
Because that's the "treatment" women have for short and ugly people.
Maybe some make fun of them, but in the same way some guys make fun of fat or ugly women.

Unless you're talking of doing something legitimately horrible, but I don't see most teenagers doing horrible things on a daily basis.

>That's not true, a world where women and men can respect each other and appreciate each other despite their differences would benefit both women and men.

Never gonna happen. Women aren't capable of not acting like childish cunts and blaming men for all their mistakes. Since they can't act like normal humans we may as well take away all their rights.

>What kind of "horrible things" did she do, that are worthy of a punishment such as being raped, beaten or killed?
>Rejecting someone? Fucking someone else?
>The punishment is absolutely unfair and disproportioned to the crime. And in this case, most men deserve to suffer in the same way women did.

Look, I pointed out that the assumptions involved in the thought process had the potential to be wrong. The key assumption, naturally, is the first one: that women do horrible things.

I wasn't endorsing this viewpoint, I was just pointing out that it was different from advocating collective punishment.

Most women aren't like that. I've met one woman in my whole life who wasn't capable of taking personal responsibility, and she is severely mentally ill.
All the other women I know are far from that.

Yeah, I'm sorry if I attacked you. I was just pointing out that the whole thinking behind it is flawed.

Again I'm stuggling to see why you insist on viewing horrible people as a framework of how women treat undesirable males. Why do you think that encompasses the entirety of "horrible people"? Yes those things can be a factor, but it would be a small one.

It's a philosophical issue I suppose, I think there are a lot of horrible people out there because I think most have the potential for evil and do not fit my moral standards, even if they have not committed a horrible act. Many murders and rapes are crimes of opportunities, think of all the murders and rapists that will go without ever committing a crime simply because the right opportunity never presented itself.

I don't really care. Fact is the male suicide rate is 4x that of the female suicide rate. Women are making life hell for men and the statistics show. So for that, women deserve suffering. I hope they all get raped.

If you like to fight, then seeing a guy punch his girl is the perfect excuse to punch someone in the mouth, because it would be socially acceptable since you were being a white knight.

Absolutely. As a rule, unless the victim of some misfortune is irredeemable scum (as in, child or animal abuser) I'm gonna feel sympathy. But for the grace of God go I.

When a girl rejects you shes saying yout bloodline doesn't deserve to go on and you're an inferior being. They choose things people have no control over like being tall or being white. Thry have no emotions and they feel I deserve to die alone. That's why I don't feel bad

No sympathy for fuck white men feminazis that get killed by muhammad or jamal.

Otherwise its a mixture of rage and hatred towards these rapist monkeys

>She's saying your bloodline doesn't deserve to go on

You are not entitled to a mate and children. Donate to a sperm bank.

I think that one factor that has to be considered here is that generally when you learn about a misfortune for a female there's generally at least one element to the events surrounding that misfortune that relates to one of our many ongoing cultural arguments. So the misfortune of a stranger ends up being emotionally weighed against the satisfaction of being proven right.

Personally, I really like being proven right. So there may be some empathy stirring in me in response to some roastie's misfortune, but if so it's totally drowned out by a wave of "being right" satisfaction.

Consider those Norwegian roasties in Morocco, for example. They clearly arrived at that moment as the result of holding an entire suite of asinine beliefs - every last one of which they were probably socially applauded for holding. There was no way, in the end, for them to realize they were wrong other than by enduring what happened to them.

When people suffer misfortune as a result of their own error(s), that's simple justice. Some of you may have bought into the outrageous lie, pushed by the left and by the therapeutic community, that one should still feel empathy even for those who are suffering justly - but I don't.

I'm not entitled to feel bad for anyone, especially ones who reject me and see me as subhuman

Because that's what OP brought up as an example of why he thinks women deserve to be raped and murdered:
>after seeing the way women behave towards ugly and short men

I don't think women who reject undesirable men are horrible. Shallow, maybe, but not horrible.

> think of all the murders and rapists that will go without ever committing a crime simply because the right opportunity never presented itself.
Are they "rapists and murderers" if they never did it, tho?

Is it because of women or maybe it's because men are expected to never share their feelings, don't trust anyone with their emotions, feel ashamed of failing at anything?
The gender stereotypes that hurt men are the same that hurt women, a society that advances in this is a society that is better for both men and women.

You're not entitled to have men risk their lives for you to save you from being raped or murdered.

I hope all men will understand what women like you think about us. So that when you get raped and beaten, no one will come to help you.

you sound very pathetic

>When a girl rejects you shes saying yout bloodline doesn't deserve to go on and you're an inferior being.
When a girl rejects you, she's saying that she doesn't want to fuck you.
That's it. You read too much into it.

> Thry have no emotions and they feel I deserve to die alone.
They have emotions and they don't think you deserve to die alone, they just don't think you are the right person for them.
There are plenty of people I wish all the best to and want to be happy, I still don't think I should have sex with them just to cheer them up.

>see me as subhuman

I think this is where I am failing to make the leap. Just because I don't want to have kids with you doesn't mean I hate you, or think you're inferior, or what have you.

When I look at a random person, my first thought is not "Would I have his babies?"

You can sugarcoat it all you want, but when a cunt rejects a sub-6 male, she is essentially saying she doesn't give a shit if he dies alone and wants his lineage to end. And when all women act in this way, the picture becomes clear.

There's a reason why women had no rights in the past. This is one of them.

You give the ultimate reward to douchebag Chads and fratboys you whore while you deny it to men like us. How can you except to be taken seriously when you are witholding a basic human need from us, while doling it out to undeserving men?

Anyway, when women's rights end you will no longer have any say in the matter. Also I hope you get raped, if nothing else for polluting this site.

Ok that was just a comment OP made after he asked the question, which I have little care for. Little to do with my original comment.
Anyway no they aren't, but if they have the potential for it I think they deserve death at least. Potential for rape or unjust murder isn't just some nebulous possibility that everyone has inside of them, like I know for sure there is no way I would ever do that even if I was guaranteed to get away with it.

It's not the case. When you reject someone, you don't think he deserves to die alone. You just don't think he is the right person for you. You're confusing a personal rejection with some sort of general, universal feeling of rejection you feel. But it's not realistic to think that each women who rejected you felt like you deserved to be an outcast.

I personally rejected very attractive people because we had different values. Do I think they deserve to die alone? No, I just don't think we'd be a good match.
I rejected people who were very ugly and I didn't feel any physical attraction for them, too. Again, do I think they deserve to die alone? No, I just didn't want to fuck them, and wanting to fuck a person you're dating is quite important to me.
I rejected people who were good looking and a good match for me because they came around in a moment that wasn't good for me (I was in a relationship, or just out of one, or just busy dealing with other shit). Do I think they deserve to die alone? No, I just wasn't ready to date.

I feel no sympathy for any humans. Only some terribly disabled retards and dogs.

How do you determine a potential? It's impossible to.
I know personally of people who said they'd have no problem killing someone, but then when presented the chance and being able to get away with it too (for example, home invasion) they couldn't do it and let the people run away. Is he a "potential murderer"?

I personally would never do it, unless it was for self defence, and even then I know I'd struggle a lot and I'm not sure I could. Maybe I'd kill someone to defend my children.

>When a girl rejects you, she's saying that she doesn't want to fuck you.
You don't deserve to breed is the ultimate insult. You dont care about us and we don't care about you.

It doesn't mean you don't deserve to breed, just that she personally doesn't want to breed with you specifically.
Why do you turn something like this into some general statement?

>When I look at a random person, my first thought is not "Would I have his babies?"
Subconsciously it is, and you will treat them differently subconsciously as well.

I agree that it doesn't necessarily mean you hate them or not want their bloodline to go on, you just don't want their bloodline to go on with you which is valid as well.

I love to start my day hearing about a woman getting raped, beaten or killed.

It just brightens my day. Felling like karma did its thing.

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Excuses after excuses. We have all heard this tale of yarn many a times from other roast beef whores like you.

You either have sex with us or you don't. It's truly that simple. No amount of obfuscating and lying will change the fact that women like you refuse to take 10 minutes out of your day to do a public service and have sex with unloved men. You are selfish, plain and simple.

I am married to a dude I met on Jow Forums in the early 2000s, he's the only person I had sex with. So I'm fucking "you".

I don't see why I should whore myself out so you feel less sorry about yourself.

actions are what matters. Imagine seeing a person starving on the street and not giving them any food, then turning around and saying oh I don't want you to starve, I'm just not giving you any of MY food. And women all want the same things half of men die alone while the chads take turns fucking you all

Well he would probably be justified in killing a home invader, but most likely he was just too scared not because he decided in that moment that he couldn't kill. As I said, unjustified murder.

Just a thought experiment and what I would do if I was omnipotent, not reality.

So you are some old roastie in her late 30s or 40s. Why are you lecturing young men about the problems they face? You know this modern generation of thots is fucking Chads over Tinder like ordering a pizza, while leaving the rest of us men to rot.

Or maybe you don't know that, since you aren't in the same generation as us, so why pretend your opinion is valid?

To be fair she could still think you deserve to breed with someone less attractive than her.

If I have just one portion of food (so the potential to have just one relationship at a time, since the vast majority of relationships are monogamous one), yeah, it'd be fair to not give it away to someone I don't care for, even if he's starving.
And it's fair to say that even if you don't want them to starve, you don't want to give them your own food.

Half men aren't dying alone, you lie to yourself if you think that's the case. The vast majority of men and women has a partner.

I'm 29. I don't understand how you'd ever think that I was 40.

>Why are you lecturing young men about the problems they face?
I'm not. I'm just telling them to stop thinking of rejection as if it meant "Oh, Brenda doesn't want to suck my dick, it means that all women think that I shouldn't pass my genes on" when it just means "Oh, Brenda doesn't think I'm hot".
If you think this is a generational issue and not a "you're mentally ill and need help" issue, you're retarded.

And it's fair for that guy to not give a fuck about your well being. Half of men do die without reproducing. Proof is we have twice as many female ancestors as male.

Jow Forums has got to be the easiest source of people to round up for FBI and the likes. This is where future school shooters and terrorists congregate. I bet tens of would-be terrorists have been arrested already for their posts on Jow Forums. And there will be plenty more.

Why are you playing obtuse? Most modern women cheat, have one night stands, casual fuckbuddies, etc. They are certainly not restricted, least of all by themselves. The fact is modern women would rather share one attractive man than be in a monogamous relationship with their looksmatch.

Also why tf would you think your opinion has any weight when you are some 40 yo roastie? You have no idea about how cancerous young women have become. You will suffer from this problem as well when your sons, if you have any, grow up with even worse thots.

I think most women deserve rape.

Freedom of speech you leftist prick. Otherwise all you antifa cunts would be in prison already.

>Be honest, when a woman gets beaten, raped or murdered do you have any sympathy for her?
Not even a little. It sounds edgy but it unironically makes me pretty happy, like justice has been served.

>he cites articles without reading them
If you actually read the article, you'd know the reason why it happened.
If you want a TL;DR - it's because men used to die at an incredibly high rate, while women lived a more sheltered life and were more likely to live. This happened when humans weren't monogamous.
Since humans have been monogamous (so over the last 20k years), the rates of men who don't reproduce are much lower. There are extremely low rates of cuckholding in humans over the last thousand centuries (around 1%).

Wow, a whole of teens o would be terrorists. I bet that's almost as much as Reddit. Whatever makes you sleep at night.

>The fact is modern women would rather share one attractive man than be in a monogamous relationship with their looksmatch.
You seem to not understand the word "fact". Your incel cuck fantasies are not facts. They do not happen in real life.

>Most modern women cheat, have one night stands, casual fuckbuddies, etc
All stats prove otherwise. Some definitely do, more than they ever did, but most don't..
Men still cheat more than women.

>Also why tf would you think your opinion has any weight when you are some 40 yo roastie?
Again, I'm not even 30.

Freedom of speech does not mean being absolved of consequences. If you detailed a plan here to kill a famous figure, you bet you would have your ass arrested. When one of you kids says "I'm gonna shoot up my school" then the authorities have every right to arrest you. As it should be. The world does not need garbage like you.

I hate seeing women harmed or killed. It makes me feel sick. I don't hate women desu, I hate myself.

And today monogamy is breaking down. Women would rather ride the cock carousel and fuck Chads a plenty than settle down and make their looksmatch happy. All your responses suffer from severely low IQ but it's no surprise as you are a foid.

>Men still cheat more than women.
Do you have a source for this? I've seen the opposite. Though, it's hard to get reliable statistics for something like this. Still, "most" men and women do not cheat. Whatever the amount is, it's far below 50% for both sexes.

Nah, I love it. They all deserve nothing less. Helps me sleep better at night and wake up feeling refreshed.

Post facts, kiddo. Not incel cuck fantasies. Divorce rates have been decreasing for a long time. The number of sexual partners is decreasing. All facts are against your incel religion.

... And that's why I get pussy and you don't faggot. Women already have a pussy, they don't need another one.

He didnt cite any articles. Then again, neither did you.

You're just making shit up we are not a mogonamous species and never were.

No one has made any plans to kill anyone. We just say that we don't feel any sympathy for when cancerous women suffer misfortune, as is our legal right to say so via freedom of speech.

I understand you leftist cunts hate open discussion, consider that you might fit in more well at Reddit, basedboy.

ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america
TL;DR - Men cheat much more than women in all demographics but for the 20-30 year old group, when women and men cheat at the same rate. Roughly, it's around 20% for men and around 13% of women overall, and probably around 10% in the first group (20-30).

Most women and most men don't cheat on their spouse, definitely.

He did. He cited a study about the fact that we have more female ancestors than male ones.
If he actually read the study, he'd know why.
You can google it.

We're not naturally monogamous, but we enforced monogamy for the last 20k years. The results aren't the most amazing, but we tried really hard to be monogamous since we turned into an agricultural society.

Who do you think cheats you dumb cunt? Ugly incel men who can't find even one girlfriend, or handsome Chad slayers who have a different slut every night?

You need options to cheat you stupid cunt. Doesn't change the fact women would rather be with a cheating Chad than an ugly loyal incel.

>Divorce rates have been decreasing for a long time. The number of sexual partners is decreasing.

These two facts are true, but your interpretation of them is false.

Divorce rates have been falling for economic reasons. Poor people don't get married any more. Middle-class people get married, but incredible inflation in the costs of primary markers of middle class status - housing and education - have created a situation where most middle-class households can't economically survive a divorce.

If housing and education costs as a percentage of family income returned to where they were in the 70's, the divorce rates would go right back to where they previously were.

And a drop in the average number of sexual partners is incredibly easy to reconcile to the incel eschatology. The drop in the average is a result of a vast number of males who used to report a partner count in the 1 to 5 range dropping to 0. That will have a profound impact on the overall reported average.

Yeah, we get it. Brag about it someplace else.

Women are less promiscuous now (age of virginity loss, number of partners, are falling) than they were 10 years ago, divorce rate is falling, younger generations are more conservative than my generation.
Honestly, guys my age had bigger problems finding non-whores than guys your age do.

Do you hate seeing men killed?

You literally can go to a prostitute and pay 100$ to cheat. You don't need "options", you just need 100$.

It's not just one study it's a fact backed up by many studies. "Thus far in our journey, many boys and men have died and not passed along their genes than women. Once a man has achieved mating age. He has the problem of competing with other men, especially other more powerful, alpha men who are often older with more social status. In most societies, top males get access to more mates. This may sound unreasonable for today societies, and it may be for some, but in the past, that is how the world worked. It still is how the world works in many ways. Whether married or not, top males attract females just as we see in Chimps and Gorillas. Human females are attracted and turned on by higher status males (groupies) and less interested in lower status males"

You and I both know that's not how most cheating goes. Regardless, the men most willing to cheat are those who can get a new girlfriend with ease, not the kind of men who spend their entire lives searching for just one girl to like them back.

And guess who women go for. The man with plenty of other options. Then they cry when they get cheated on.

I'm guessing he's younger, and younger women do cheat more than younger men. Statistics of those older than your dating range don't affect you.

Again, this was true when society wasn't what it is today and what it has been over the last couple thousands of years.
Obviously females are attracted by high status males, and I understand you hate the fact that women fuck top tier men for fun and not you, but very few men have children with dozens of different women in a way that effectively screws up the rate of men who reproduce, today.

Lol how many people do you know or even have heard of that have ever even visited a prostitute? I know lots of people who have cheated with a non prostitute, though.

FBI here. Nope. We're lazy. Sorry, no. But you better believe we're lazy and we don't actually want to round anyone up at all. We don't actually want to do anything you don't want to do really. But one of us has to do it. So that's why you fucks do it. But don't fucking do it, you dickheads. We've got lives beyond this job you know. This isn't what I wanted to do with my life. Ok. Some of us have families to support and we end up serving however we end up. I got this job because I fucked up like you and just didn't get out much or think much about what was happening in my life. I just read books, or the internet, like it was a fiction. I played it out in the army for a bit and then at this job. Now I'm just bored and sick of you shit. But what is anyone going to do about even hearing the truth anymore. No one can tell the difference. It's just recursive loops. And you fucks get caught up in it for fucking lulz like some god damn russian romantic nihilists. I hope they fire me for this.

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It is tho. That's how most of the cheating goes, which is the reason why it's far more common to cheat for older men more than for younger ones.
Do you think 50-60 year old men are absolutely fascinating, or do you think they just have a wife who doesn't fuck them at home and a bunch of money on their hands?

Not a single thing you said is true. You are talking out of your ass. Incels, why do they always lie?

I know people who have cheated with non prostitutes, and plenty of guys who visit escorts despite being in a relationship.
A work colleague of my husband fucks escorts whenever he travels here, even if he's married with two kids. He's 28. Half of the people my husband went to college with fucked escorts.

Young women and young men cheat at the same rate (10% for men, 11% for women). Unless you want to tell me that such a small difference is statistically significant.

What was the point of this point, you won't even admit I'm right and then make fun of me cause I'm not a chad. This is why I laugh when women get beatup/raped

50-60 yo men cheating are irrelevant to young 16-30 age range. And in this age range men and women cheat equally.

Since younger people tend to have less money and an active sex life if they have a girlfriend, most cheating wouldn't involve escorts. And it will be the men with options who can afford to cheat.

JFL at you, using statistics from older generations to skew your point.

Not on such a visceral level, but I don't enjoy it. The exception being in a context of war it's pretty great seeing dindus get shot down by cops or terrorists killed by soldiers, or if the victim deserves it, like a rapist or pedophile.

So women do cheat more than men. Stop obfuscating the data you dumb cunt.

Now I wrote false information in this post thanks to you. Young men and women do not cheat equally, women cheat more.

>He did. He cited a study about the fact that we have more female ancestors than male ones.
>If he actually read the study, he'd know why.

You can prove by studying genetic drift that more women reproduced than men.

You definitely *can't* prove why without engaging in sociological speculation, though. And sociology is not an actual science.

So "here's our study of mitochondrial genetics" is science. "Oh, this probably happened because men went out and fought and women stayed safe at home" is a just-so story made up based on 3rd-hand inferences from a very limited set of facts.

Cucked. When are you going to top yourself then since you are cucking for women? Women don't want to share this planet with ugly men like you, better honor their wishes.

The 80/20 meme is not science. Microchimerism is not science. Hypergamy is not science. Yet incels call these "science". Makes you think.