Why did almost every single society and civilization suppress women's rights and deemed them lower than men...

Why did almost every single society and civilization suppress women's rights and deemed them lower than men, until extremely recently? Why did feminism never take root in the 4000+ years of Western, Asian and Middle Eastern civilization until like 70 years ago?

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Because they were smart enough to know women are only good for their bodies and baby making

>Why did history take the course it did?
Who knows? Why wasn't the first transistor invented until *extremely* recently? Why did it take people several centuries to start questioning the existence of God? Change is inevitable. What you should be asking is whether or not feminisim has had a positive impact.

Because we live in a different time where our lifestyles are different. Life expectancy is longer than it's been, we have a lot more options (including men) about what we can do with our lives, this also adds to the phenomenon of people marrying and having children later in life than before. The way we live our lives now is just so different, it's hardly about survival anymore or establishing anything (like a country) the world is finite now and what worked before but doesn't really work now. Just as marriage and having children is no longer as strong a priority for men the same is for women since (who would they procreate with? [Pls don't say the ppl on this site)

>Why did it take people several centuries to start questioning the existence of God?

Buddhism has been around for millenia and they don't believe in God.

women weren't suppressed, they were put to work where they would be effective. feminism never took root because women knew that this was in their own best interest.

housework used to be actual work (not watching a machine do the work). and transportation used to be a meme. streets were just dirt, any rain would immediately make a "street" unusable for long distance. and the world was dangerous, crime was everywhere. someone had to stay home to watch the children and do all that housework. given that housework, while tedious, required less strength than the average "job" and the house was safer than anywhere else it was the only reasonable division of labor that women stayed home (except to get groceries) while men went out into the world where there was physical conflict to fear and physical labor to do.

then everything was automated and physical labor and crime were virtually eliminated so suddenly women leaving the house just like men started to be a viable option.

We are the literal peak of human civilization.

This is true and false also. Very interesting

Why did feminism never take root in the 4000+ years of Western, Asian and Middle Eastern civilization until like 70 years ago?
The Industrial Revolution, compounded by Marxism, compounded by birth control, compounded by the implementation of thousands of various other technologies and practices that have domesticated human life and inflated the value of female sexuality relative to male sexuality.

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I can't believe women are allowed to live and it's 2019.

Buddhism itself doesn't have a God, but many Buddhists believe in a God/Gods

>70 years ago
Feminism dates back to the enlightenment and the French Revolution.
And worth noting is that while no ancient civilizations were completely egalitarian, many did allow women some rights and didn't treat them like complete slaves.

>until extremely recently?
it wasnt needed
capitalism is a hellova drug

Ackshually sweaty, feminism has appeared repeatedly throughout history in different times and places. It is a reliable indicator that a society/civilization is approaching the end of its lifespan. Some factors which influence the formation and perpetuation of feminist thought include:
>male to female population ratio,
>aristocratic conventions influencing the masses,
>communication technologies,
>reproductive technologies,
>military campaigns,
>foreign threats,
>the strength and structure of cultural narratives perpetuating the sentiment
>and more

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whats her name? orgignall

Who is she that sexy woman?

wow that's amazing, it's almost as if none of these places had princesses, queens, empresses, or just any female nobility at all. It's almost as if you're just a fucking retard.

You will never accept the truth but it all boils down to physical strength.
Had women been naturally stronger than man, humans would have built matriarchal societies like hyenas.
Thanks testosterone for that.

Some coalburner from BLACKED.

i d like to know that too, originally though

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okay, shit happens
>posting it
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This wise man gets it.

And to add to this we still see the majority of women taking less physically demanding jobs and occupying healthcare and childcare positions instead. This is very traditional, Feminism's first mission was to ensure women aren't trapped with only these options, they accomplished this decades ago. Anyone can now apply for any job as long as they meet the (nondiscriminatory) qualifications.

Feminism seems to have decided to keep it's relevance (and popularity) by launching a new mission of acceptance of women into any workplace, both with financial equality and changing social dynamics. Like any mission they use any tactic to advance their cause (social media, statistics, testimonials, etc.) and destroy their enemies (targeting, labeling, harassment, strawmen, so on) which is where we see most of the criticisms of Feminism but to criticize their tactics is a tactic, or, in other words, to "play on their level".

Instead step past these tactics and simply ask: do you agree with their mission? Try to say more than just "yes" or "no" since that will just label you as an ally or enemy to their cause.

Personally I don't think this cause is worth a movement. Legally society has granted women all rights and made it criminal to discriminate, any further objectives would be attempting to control how people feel. Society will change to adopt these changes naturally and to attempt to force emotions upon people is a very dangerous game.

Now what worries me is that Feminism is trying to co-op Egalitarianism under it's banner which is a crime against language. Gender rights of both sides should not be titled under "Feminism" simply because it's a popular movement. It implies that egalitarianists will be assumed to adopt feminist missions.

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>women's rights
you're an obvious feminist retard.

90%+ of all men were suppressed just as much, and were seen as even more expendable. you don't know shit whore. a tiny part of the population had any real rights when we created civilizations

Because matriarchal societies don't last and they collapse faster

Most women actually worked, either in the fields or something like that.
Women having to do *just* housework is an extremely new concept.

> Why did almost every single society and civilization suppress women's rights and deemed them lower than men, until extremely recently? Why did feminism never take root in the 4000+ years of Western, Asian and Middle Eastern civilization until like 70 years ago?

Because for all those years women needed men to survive, period. Now, they can supplant the traditional male role with the state.

not really, most people are just rich so they can leech off their parents. the state doesn't offer anything valuable.

when you've got 5+ children of various ages and there are no washing machines, dish washing machines, dryers, refrigerators etc. around you've got enough to do. you do all of that and you make and repair clothing, you plant vegetables in the backyard, you feed the chickens you have in the backyard, you process various edible plants in ways to make them durable, such as making marmelade or sauerkraut.... there's loads to do. of course a farmer's wife would help out with just about anything on the farm, but farming is seasonal work. there's not always something to do in the fields. there are long periods of time where the main work happens around the household, at least the stuff a woman can physically do. so even in times when most people were farmers the women would do different work than the men.

>not really, most people are just rich so they can leech off their parents. the state doesn't offer anything valuable.

Middle & Upper Class Millennials and Zoomers aren't the entire country. Besides, welfare is only one part of the problem. Another issue is that women want to have kids in their late twenties and early thirties (past peak fertility), thanks to a society that encourages women to have traditionally male-oriented goals

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Yet most women worked. And so did most children.
My grandfather started working when he was 9, my grandmother when she was 7. This was in the late 40s, not in 1300.
Nothing major, nothing that broke your back, but kids and women were always supposed to work.
My grandma for example when she was 21 had 3 kids, worked in my family's bakery (waking up at 2 AM every morning to make bread), took care of the house. They also had a garden with vegetables, and then chickens. She made all her food at home.
And it wasn't extraordinary.

holy shit that is the best thick body I've ever seen on a women ever and trust me, I've seen a LOT of thick women during my time on this earth

>of various ages
kids helped out around the house too. but you're talking about people who built/owned their own isolated houses out in the middle of a field. that's a weird perspective that i'm tempted to say came from hollywood.

it would be inefficient for women to only work for their own families, so they had various jobs that scaled to benefit their local communities. some just made clothes all day, others cooked or cleaned or gathered shit.

the trend shows absolutely no change before and after 1964. it was going up in an exponential way and that's exactly how the curve continues, meaning "the war on poverty" is in no way correlated with children born out of wedlock. was that your point? that's what the graph shows.

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That butt jiggle is amazing

of course they worked? who ever said they didn't work? women have never worked less than today.

A wise civilisation understands that women are excellent method of motivating men.

You'll understand when you're older and have dealt with many women.

>war on poverty marked as some kind of significant event
>pretty much 0 change in the vector
what did heritage.org mean by this?
interesting points are early 50s, early 90s and late 90s

They worked both inside and outside of the house, they had proper jobs. My other grandma was a teacher, her mother was a seamstress, my grandma's sister had a small shop.
Housewives are something that just higher middle class people could afford. The idea that women dedicated most of their time to housework and not much else is off.

Poor people still have a lot of kids and while young though. I'm still correct, everyone that you'll have a conversation with in public in proper English will be from a rich family that they can borrow from most of their lives. Poorfags still have unlimited food, so it's not about survival which was your point.

I agree that women being career oriented a lot of the time is a problem. But you're way off if you think welfare caused any of this shit.

t. never heard of the native americans

bump because I'm a pathetic sack of shit and also want some sorese

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Agricultural, and even industrial, civilization depended upon beta male labour. To give incentives to such men to work harder at their jobs a prospect of marriage to a pure wife and children was available to every man. Since women couldn't be trusted to choose hardworking beta males at their own it the suppression of their freedom was required.

Once the post-industrial age made beta male labour irrelevant, the suppression of female behavior became also unnecessary.

men and women have to work together when you're subsistence farmers. You need kids to help out with the many things required.

So it's really that simple. Men needed women, and vice versa. In our modern society, men don't need women. They can just pull up some porn and satisfy that urge, or go fuck sluts and go home.

Women don't necessarily need men either, unless they want to be mothers, in which case it's far better to have a husband. Single motherhood sucks ass, and you get shitty, poorly adjusted kids.

>Women don't necessarily need men either
Yes they do men make sure our society stays functioning. And we never needed women on the farm or taking care of the house. Because a man will do a better job at both of those things. The only reason women are around is to get fucked and shit out our offspring.

why are people so shocked? men like to see porn that's why you wear yoga pants you fucking whore bitch

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>I agree that women being career oriented a lot of the time is a problem. But you're way off if you think welfare caused any of this shit.

With the career-oriented nonsense, I'm talking about middle & upper class women. I don't disagree with you.
> Poorfags still have unlimited food, so it's not about survival which was your point.

What do you mean? By women needing men to "survive", I was referring to society before the welfare state. Of course, they still do need men to survive, but that need is currently cloaked in the thin veneer of security afforded by the state.
> Women don't necessarily need men either
Yes they do
youtube.com/watch?v=w7NoW703iQY

I don't know senpai, in a lot of cultures women have power.

Lola Naymark. From the movie "Ariane's Thread"

>And we never needed women on the farm or taking care of the house. Because a man will do a better job at both of those things

yeah that's great except most men aren't gay and want girls around to fuck, so if you have the girl you needed her to work to help out. Only the very rich women wouldn't help out in the farm or shop or whatever.

because that's how advanced civilizations end

>that's great except most men aren't gay and want girls around to fuck
That was my point did you even read my post

now you're responding to yet another person's posts, inferring that women didn't work and correcting this imaginary error when it's simply not there. READ before responding.

My point, which you completely missed apparently, is that women can exist in society without men, not that society at large can exist without men.

and of course men make better farmers, we're stronger. But part of keeping society running is for men to take women in, and thus they needed the women to work simple as.

>biological sex differences
>human rights are a european invention,
there, simple.

>inferring that women didn't work

Holy fuck, learn to read you absolute dunce.

Thank you user, very appreciated

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Some people should be shot.

you should google the word "infer".

You're the one who should google it, because I said, and I quote:

>so if you have the girl you needed her to work

NEEDED HER TO WORK, dunce. There is absolutely no way you can "infer" that I was implying the opposite, as you claim.

You are fucking retarded.

Real answer: birth control

I wonder (((who))) was behind it, user...

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We don't need women for work we need them to get fucked and raise our children.

They didn't suppress shit they just didn't have them.
>Why did feminism never take root in the 4000+ years of Western, Asian and Middle Eastern civilization until like 70 years ago?
Because in the last 200 years we've developed a huge amount of ethics and modern ideas.
We no longer draw and quarter people for example.

>Jews are behind literally every single movement, ideology and social development.
Truly the master-race and best people to rule us by your own admission.

>every single movement, ideology and social development.
Just the shitty, toxic, destructive, subversive ones. What do you expect from a race of people who have never been capable of building a fully-functional , independent, large scale civilization of their own?

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What's the point of civilization if history will just keep repeating itself? Why can't this civilization break the cycle and not end horribly and violently? Why can't we derail into a positive change? Einstein's definition of insanity is doing the same things, the same way, over and over, and expecting a different result, so why keep going for the same result? Insanity isn't healthy.

>let that sink in
Ha, eggedit, irl shitposting, based and red pilled loincloth facepaint man! hahaha, this, so much this

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Yes rabbi.

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You're proofing my point

What point? That kikes are a bunch of nepotistic, neurotic, psychopathic parasites? Good luck pulling this shit off again after you have destroyed every white country and are unable to infiltrate and subvert the Asian countries that step in to fill the global power void since you can't pretend to be (((Asian))) like you can (((white))).

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>its almost as if
>its almost as if
its almost as if you're a redditor, please off yourself

Ok, now THIS is ebic!
>*dabs on you*

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>We no longer draw and quarter people for example.
That was a practical, pragmatic development; it had nothing to do with governments becoming more humane or ethical. They just came to realize that publically punishing people in really violent, horrific ways only ever caused crowds to eventually view them sympathetically as martyrs and victims of the state's tyrannical power over life and death.

>Why did almost every single society and civilization suppress women's rights and deemed them lower than men, until extremely recently? Why did feminism never take root in the 4000+ years of Western, Asian and Middle Eastern civilization until like 70 years ago?
Unironically Jews