Why don't girls like nice guys? It wasn't like I acted like a beta bitch, I was just a gentleman yet still dominant and made her laugh. I don't fucking understand it bros and I'm just about fed up, I'm sick of trying and wasting all this time, effort, and money. No matter how good of a man I am and act it's never enough because I'm not handsome. She was even the wholesome conservative type who stated she wanted to be a mom with tons of kids and I'm the same way except I want to be a father of course. I have a stable job with a salary that can provide for a family with my own place and car and many other wholesome qualities but it's never enough. The self improvement seems like it's all for nothing and I should just go back to being a degenerate societal dropout.
Why don't girls like nice guys? It wasn't like I acted like a beta bitch...
>Why don't girls like nice guys?
it means you're ugly bro
shut up you ugly faggot
The other guy is hotter
Be a bit more aggressive. Judging by what she said, it seemed like you were more trying to be nice and pleasant than you were trying to be a man. Even the nicest, most innocent conservative girls like guys with masculine alpha chad qualities. Be a bit more of an asshole. Still be nice and sweet but make fun of them and call them out for shit as well. Stop trying to make every interaction pleasant and start going for what you want.
>I was dominant yet gentle
What do you mean by dominant?
okay garrott
See my thread:
>be an asshole but also be nice
>be dominant but not TOO dominant
>be an alpha Chad but also be urself :)
>be a walking contradiction at all times based on her whim
No, that's terrible advice. OP, just move on. You've wasted your time here and you're not getting it back. Don't fall for the sunken cost fallacy.
All of this is true, but you're missing one crucial part: Escalate sexually, VERY early on. If you neglect to do that, all your other efforts were for nothing
It's not being a walking contradiction and it's not based on her whim. Do you have friends or relatives your age? Do you tease them sometimes? Do you also feel affection towards them? It's the same.
>Why don't girls like nice guys?
I've had this question for a real long time
>actually going on dates
I can't even imagine myself.
Best of luck.
he's right. there's a line between being a teasing asshole and being a piece of shit. you gotta find a balance or the right girl its fucking stupid
They literally get coddled since birth from daddys house to the frat house to hubbys house. They think men raining gifts and attention while they pick and choose is something standard and taken for granted. Which is why they lose their shit hard after the wall and reality catches up to them
Because being nice isn't an attractive trait.
Delet
I did exactly that. I clearly stated in the OP I didn't act like a beta bitch. I was still dominant but not in a douchey way.
I didn't blur my name enough, r-right? This can't be you?
I've never tried this as I typically only go after conservative girls who I figure don't expect or want to fuck on the first date.
Femanon here. Unfortunately it's true that most women are attracted to men who don't give a shit. If I can give you one protip based on this small interaction it's be that you showed you cared too much in your reply and maybe came across too strongly or desperate on the date. The best would have been to be like 'whatever' or not reply at all.
If it's any consolation I'm going through the same thing with a spergy weirdo who dropped me for a Stacey. Can't start a fire without a spark and a spark is pretty hard to find these days.
>implying the guys they fuck rain gifts and attention down upon them
Those are the guys they take advantage of user, not the ones they like
it'd be*
this
>original post numer 55543
Wtf this is fucking sick.
Married woman and she says in that video that she "did out of love".
Imagine being her husband and watching that video.
WTF
I need to roid my shit up, roided male body does stupid things to women.
I have a friend who is handsome and also super nice and a total catch. He was actually really popular with women too. But he only had eyes for this one chick who was a friend he's been trying to get out of the friendzone for ages.
He was totally pussywhipped for her. He orbited her for like 2 years, was always buying her expensive gifts, paying for lunch etc.
She basically acted dumb the entire time and pretended not to notice. Then when he finally started making lots of money, that's when she finally took him up on it.
It makes me really sad though because he's a genuinely nice, good, decent guy and the girl he's seeing is a total user bitch who's only with him for his money. The whole thing has made me really cynical about relationships in general.
Now I think when it comes to relationships, there's always one nice person paired with an asshole. I don't think there are many relationships with two nice people or two assholes. It's depressing actually.
Why the fuck would it matter what I said after she ended it? It was already over by then. I didn't act clingy on the date at all I know better than that. And the only time I texted her after was to tell her I had a good time and to tell her what we're doing for the next date and when I was picking her up.
Didn't Jon Venables allegedly sleep with at least 1 or 2 female prison guards, despite them knowing he was a pedo and child killer?
Most wardens are scumbags anyway, either roasties looking for a rapist bf, or cryptofag gay sexual predators who make inmates exchange sexual favors for
Don't even get me started on how many wardens abuse kids in juvenile halls. I think most prison guards are ego tripping scumbags in general.
Because it's possible she was just shit-testing you and seeing if you were a cryptobeta or not. Which you confirmed by your reply. I'm not criticizing you, I'm just being your wingman and trying to help you smash here bro.
The only thing i see there is two absolutely horrendous sociopathic personalities falling for each other.
Like it's almost comically caricatural it covers every trope you guys fantasize about here.
Cucked husband, despicable woman, violent rapist middle eastern man.
That sounds extremely unlikely to happen and there is no way you can uses this event as an indicator of anything, beside the pair just being to horrible humans.
because when someone is nice to you all the time it comes off as creepy since it you rejecting you rejecting seems they are afraid of rejection and that they are your only hope for companionship. Or, it comes off that you just want something from the other person (i.e. sex) and nothing more
Even if this was true, any roastie that plays games like that is not worth your time. From what OP said, he's looking for a relationship and not a fuck buddy. Shit-tests are a surefire way for me to instantly remove a female from my list of possible partners.
>it's just love guys
you forgot to hide your roast
Nobody shit tests by saying they met someone else. That's not a shit test that's clearly a rejection plain and simple.
>being upset over rejection makes you a beta
After searching through a sea of whores it was a relief to meet someone like her and we had a fucking amazing first date too. Any normal person would be upset, that doesn't make someone a beta, nice assumption though and making me lose faith in women even more
Is pic related? If so there's probably no second layer to that text, she had 3-4 suitors including you and picked one that isn't you so she's cutting ties.
Showing that you were upset was the last straw
Shouldve responded with
>good luck with everything
She mightve been surprised by that
Yeah prison wardens aren't the most upstanding citizens in a society. Who else would put themselves into that situation.
>why girls don't like "nice" guys
They already fucked a bunch of assholes who treated her bad so for you to come around being nice is like an insult. Plus you'll eventually turn out to be just like them. Not that she's a saint but that's just how the whole thing is. Not totally sure but that's what I think it is.
What you think you're saying;
>Toughen up and defend yourself user
What you're really saying;
>Please don't confront us about being shitty when we're shitty, we want the freedom to turn you down in any way we like whenever we like without anyone yelling at us. So just like toughen up and shut up.
I wouldn't doubt it
And cuck myself? As if that would make me look more alpha
This shit sounds on point copypasta OP
>So just like toughen up and shut up
Thats not what Im saying at all
You probably came across as clingy and dependent
Women want a cocky and independent man
If youre not that, then you may as well just quit dating until youre older
And Im a guy by the way
>cuck myself
Dude there are thousands of girls on dating sites
If one rejects you, go to the next one
The fact that you got a match shows that youre physically attractive enough to get another girl
this
i read somewhere that girls who have been molested (i.e. every roastie) reinterpret "touch" differently
So gentle touches give them re-ignite unpleasant memories of their creepy uncle, but hard touches make them feel romantic instead of the other way around.
>"p-please tell me what i did wrong :((("
>not beta
Lol faggot you should've replied "lol k message me when you want to fuck"
Bunch of retards ITT. It was over by then it didn't matter what I said. I'm just fucking sick of nothing working out so I figured I'd ask what I did wrong, I wasn't trying to win her back.
We already told you what you did wrong
And you got angsty and mad
Stop being a angsty and mad
>being upset over being rejected is the reason you were rejected
Women act unpredictable, their mind is in constant change, like a child's mind.
>be me
>ex gf I broke up with 2015 hit me up again
>wants to meet
>had little to no interest at first but in a moment of weakness got horny
>sexting the whole night, she sent nudes
>after a week of sexting she comes to my city to fuck (said herself she wants to fucj badly)
>2 hours before the meet up she calls me
>cancels the fuck date
>never heard of her again
>treat your friends and family the same way you treat your lovers
Wew lad can't lie that's pretty hot. Got any incest stories you want to share? I'm feeling the need for a cheeky wank.
>being upset over being rejected is the reason you were rejected
No, but sometime during the date she realized you were a nice guy
And she realized that if she ever rejected you, you would take it poorly
So she thought of the best way to let you down easy
But guess what...you took it poorly
And here you are
Moaning on Jow Forums that you got rejected
Like pottery
Nice guys finish last
Poppycock. I was nice but not a "nice guy" and didn't show an ounce of weakness.
denial is not just a river in egypt
original dammit
Women want men who have their own life. Im willing to bet that OP was way to attentive and eager. That shit never works, they see that stuff as a red flag for dependence issues. Its not about being a dick or anything, but waiting a few minutes before responding to a text is definitely in most guys best interest. It makes it seem as though you're not prioritizing her over everything else at the drop of a hat. They only want to be your top priority when feelings get caught. Prior to that, you look like a fucking wacko. Life isn't a movie, you cant expect someone to just fallfor you because you treat them descently.
>didnt show an ounce of weakness
Yeah, its not about that. You can show weakness
Its okay to admit that you dont know something or cant do something
Something tells me that you put up a facade
And tried to be something you werent
Like focusing on looking strong to her
Or being polite but not too polite
These things are turn offs
Of course, we dont know anything about the date except for your account of the date
So the only thing we can assume is that something turned her off
And this went against you when she weighed you against her other options
Blackpill dubs of truth
>Women want men who have their own life
Wrong.
Women want hot men. If you are rejected, it is because you are not hot. That's the only reason a woman would ever reject you.
OP here. I'm really starting to believe this, it's not just an incel meme. All these other retarded explanations people are stating ITT are retarded, this is the only one that makes sense and the only one that fits into my situation. tfw chinlet
If that were true, then you wouldnt have even matched with her in the first place. Only attractive chads get matches on dating apps. Have you ever heard of the 80/20 rule?
I'm not attractive. And who said anything about dating apps?
Jeez they got another one. Im an ugly ass mofo and I'm married to a girl way out of my league. Stop making excuses.
Must be rich then. Enjoy your alimony payments
I'm gonna remember this information, thanks buddeh.
>I'm gonna date someone else
>You didn't do anything wrong
This isn't a service to anyone, why do women like to others and to themselves like this? If the guy had done nothing wrong, there'd be no reason she prefers someone else, so clearly he did something wrong and now he'll likely do it wrong again if he ever gets the chance to.
46k a year, by no means rich. And dont really have any marrital problems after 6 years.
>who said anything about dating apps
Whatever, what I said is still true
Girls only go on dates with attractive people
Shes not going to waste an hour of her life meeting some average beta male
Get the fuck off my board you tard.
This thread is just becoming more pathetic by the second. Stop bitching about some half assed theory and go out and try harder. Its ridiculous that a bunch of guys who arent dating have the truest understanding of female behavior.
That's why I'm fucking confused
We made good conversation and are both religious and far right politically so we just clicked. I'm not good looking I'm just well kept
Because people learn from mistakes, and people on this board have failed more than anybody.
OP you need to be more handsome and tall
Her responses are bullshit
She doesnt want to tell you the truth
Either you did something to turn her off or this guy is infinitely more attractive than you
So whatever, who cares
>far right
>dates multiple guys at the same time
>far right
>dates at all
Some guys are just gonna be you but better looking. Maybe next time you'll be the hotter guy, who knows
I am tall. I'm 6'2.5", but she even mistaken me for being 6'4"ish as she thought I was taller than her 6'3" brother. It's not my height it's my chin
You're right, I wanted to call bullshit and to keep pressing but fuck it, would've been a waste of time when I already know the answer is that this new guy is more attractive
This makes it clear, the other guy has better hairline/is taller/has better skin/etc. He's just better looking sorry.
Basically, you didn't push and she found a more attractive male. That's fucking it, always try to fuck as soon as possible. It litterally never fails. Dates are for fags, taking it slow is for pussy, respecting her boundaries is for permavirgins.
>Her responses are bullshit
>She doesnt want to tell you the truth
That's not how women or men work. She's not attracted to him, she can't think of anything he actually did wrong, and so she's saying that the date was fine. WHY she isn't attracted to him is not something she consciously knows, any more than you'd know why you walked past a shop instead of going in.
>I was just a gentleman yet still dominant
Because you have feelings for her, probably. I'm with the girl I'm nearly forcing to have sex with me and threaten to throw out, if she wants me to eventually take her kids back from orphanage, she better stop acting retarded.
I'm far left and I'm still doing this shit because there is just no other way with young women, especially if you are hideous like me and work for min wage.
holy those fucking messages enraged me so fucking much, it is obvious that fucking bitch rejected you and instead went for chad
stfu whore
>Shes not attracted to him
No, thats not true. She had to have found him attractive at some point to have agreed to go on a date with him
I agree with the rest of the people here that its most likely she met someone MORE attractive and decided to cut OP out. But there is still a SLIM chance that OP messed up somewhere and killed the attraction.
I mean, he sounds like that type of guy. The whole I was being a gentleman yet still dominant shtick. He definitely isnt objective enough to critique himself because he sounds like he thinks of himself as the hottest thing since sliced bread
Sounds like you fucked yourself, OP. Just from the texts and your whining about being rejected AND wasting money it sounds like you were destined to fail. Who the fuck even calls themselves a nice guy?
I can't talk from a position of authority exactly, but I think the "girls don't like nice guys" thing is bullshit. Sometimes girls prefer daring/aggressive/partly mean guys... yes this is a known phenomenon that women can sometimes like the bad guy. But to say you can't be nice and have women attracted to you is silly.
Also, I don't self improve at all, she likes me shaved, but I'm too lazy for that, I stick my smelly dick into her.
Me and Mom decided it's best she stays out of town with her mom while I'm away at work, if she is still seious about fixing her life she'll go back to me and not her drunkard friends.
>stfu whore
Nigga if I could sell my fat fucking cheeks and saggy mantits I'd do it in a heartbeat.
Yeah, maybe - the point here is that the skill required to bake a cake is not the same as the skill required to eat it and tell whether it tastes good. Her advice to OP will be completely useless because she's the eater and he's the baker: at best he's going to get "it was a bit dry" if there was something very obviously wrong, and at worst he's going to get "the black forest gateau was just better" with no real explanation.
antifa everyone
She obviously went for Chad, retard. Same thing happened to me
If this isn't some shit copypasta and that text is his then he fucked himself up. If you scrolled up through the texts I'm 100% sure his texts were sending her red flags that he was a clingy fucker who would go Elliot Rodgers on her if she didn't give him what he wanted. I could theorize during their date he was giving off the vibe or literally saying that he wanted to chain her down in a relationship which scared her stiff. And he's mentioning wasting money so I'm sure he paid for everything and she got the impression OP had no sexual market value and that she was going to be the center of his tiny world. She might have been so put off by OP that she made up that other guy so he'd leave her be. OP should've played it relaxed and cool, especially on a first date because women are on high alert during the early stages of courtship. Even something like a double or triple text or the wrong wording can give them a bad impression you.
Why did she talk to me and acted all flirty and shit and I just think she was just thirsty and not genuine?
Look bros, I had a cute thicc woman chasing me once and she keeps having glimmers of missing me.
I intended on acting like a beta bitch and wanted her off my dick so I can move on and jerk off to anime.
Fuck, I even intended on her not showing up and was gonna make a hilarious show out of it.
I genuinely anticipated she wouldn't come after I asked her out so pathetically and truth is, I wholly intended on it being pathetic.
Not only did she go on, but the minute I paid for the food, she said she's not into me.
This fucking hurt me for different reasons. Like what if one day a dude handsomer, and more stable than I got this answer? He would be fucking devastated.
Granted I set the bar low, but hey, I'm still very annoyed.
I also don't have rapist tendencies and would like to keep a clean record, just so you know. Shame on you few for thinking I should. I have to keep things classy.
I digress, I still got very annoyed I wasted money on nothing getting done. I'm going to die knowing I wasted high double digits worth of money entertaining some bitch.
go fucking kill yourself you fucking roastie, you dont belong here
>roastie
If by roastie you mean uncut and with a small penis then sure.
>making shit up to validate your world view
This post had to have been written by a roastie
Idealism crushes against reality, still not racist though, would marry a black girl and don't think anyone deserves to be raped.
Op is a fucking loser. She doesn't like you nigger shut up
have you tried being more handsome?
>would marry a black girl
because you're not white yourself, understandable
>don't think anyone deserves to be raped.
only muslims think this and you probably express love for them in public
man that bitch is insufferable
First thing that's wrong with you, you're ranting about relationship problems on Jow Forums lul. Go get a life.
Probs whiter than you, my gf is also white, not that it matters.
This is a bot I swear to god I've seen the post before.
how are you cucking yourself lol you're showing her you don't care shes got a new bf which you shouldn't care about cause you barely know her
You know what is even sadder? That its always been like this. My grandma is exactly that, never even worked an hour in her life. And it will always be like this because men are thirsty faggots.
haha, girls dont like nice guys, its not cause i'm ugly and hollow.