Working sucks and being NEET makes you realize how terrible it is

>I work for myself
be more specific. what is your job?

>and love what I do.
this is the only thing i am envious of. i am not envious of tall, muscular, beautiful chads. i am envious of people who can ENJOY working for the specific purpose of making money

for me, it's not enjoyable at all. i can't even fathom a job or "career" that i would enjoy.

i worked for years, out of necessity, and then when i got the opportunity to quit, i realized how absolutely terrible it was. i did programming though, which apparently is quite horrible

i do what i love too, in my free time. none of it makes me any money. you're very privileged, lucky, gifted that you can do whatever you want, just for fun, and still manage to make money. don't pretend like everyone is even capable of that though. for many, if not MOST people, working will always be selling their labor, NOT doing what they want to do and also [coincidentally] making money at the same time

>luckily my job didn't involve much interaction with people
same. and i was well respected at my job, and i was always good at looking busy even when i wasn't doing jack shit. i used to get paid just to simply sit in a chair, honestly. i don't miss it though, it was boring and i had to use my phone for most websites since the company would know what you visited

>but I don't have the money anymore to do anything besides that
that sucks i guess. personally i don't have very expensive tastes. i don't like travelling or anything. i did't really enjoy any of the concerts i went to. i don't like going to bars or clubs

for the most part, even if i was insanely rich, i wouldn't spend much money on "activities" or anything. except of course if i had a gf who wanted to travel or something, i guess i would do it then, just to make her happy

what do you want to do?

I repair vehicles, mostly insurance jobs that cover the day to day aspect of the job, and restorations which are good for the soul. Sometimes people come in looking for weird shit too which is always fun, like a guy who restores vintage chandeliers and needed some glass tinted the right colour.

I just want a job that makes me happy and not in the poverty line. I enjoyed doing carpentry and construction cause your getting ecerise all day and when you get home you just feel relaxed

>I repair vehicles
well you're ridiculously privileged that you can enjoy doing that, ha. i just couldn't enjoy that, myself. i fix my own car and it pisses me off all the time. i'd much rather someone else do it for me. i don't like cars or driving though, it's just a tool i use to get from one place to another (gym or grocery store really)

>I just want a job that makes me happy
same, that's my dream. unfortunately i don't think a job (selling my labor) could possibly make me happy. best case scenario: it doesn't make me absolutely miserable

>I enjoyed doing carpentry and construction cause your getting ecerise all day and when you get home you just feel relaxed
i guess so. have you tried going to the gym and exercising? that's what i do

that's also what made me really quit my job. i started to go to the gym after work and it would keep me awake very late. it caused me chronic sleep deprivation. doctor gave me ambien which never worked.

any day i do exercise it causes me to be up really late. today, i woke up at 2:30pm for example. if i had a wagecuck job i would have woken up a few hours after falling asleep and felt shitty all day

Being a neet sucks.
The worse a business is the more they have to try to re-inforce the idea of how worse everything else is. That way the upper management gets to fuck lower workers for more. They need to culturally re-inforce the idea that you're worse off not doing it. Otherwise it's more expensive and they get less.

user you are incorrect. Nobody WANTS to work. Nobody wants to contribute to society, nobody likes breaking their back so someone else makes money doing nothing.

Everyone that works does it because otherwise you don't get money, and without money you have no food, shelter, and well, life. You can settle for neetbucks, sure, but only if the community you are living in is first wordly enough that you can live with little money.

Remember, mommy and daddy will die, and so will auntie, so will brother and sister, until eventually you are forced to fend for yourself. And neetbucks aren't enough.

Thats the thing with desk jobs it feels like you do nothing all day then get home and youre full of energy. Going to the gym is the last thing on my mind cause I'm worn out which is good cause I don't worry about things as much and can be content. that's how alot of laborslaves get by without killing them selves.

>Nobody WANTS to work
this isn't true. plenty of people claim that they ENJOY their jobs. others GLOAT about the "social status" they are conferred due to their career. so, yes, many people DO want to work

>Nobody wants to contribute to society
what explains volunteering? what about doctors who choose that profession to "help others" ?
also, some jobs don't "contribute to society" at all. also, you can "contribute to society" without making a single cent!

>Everyone that works does it because otherwise you don't get money, and without money you have no food, shelter, and well, life

some people own property, and thus don't have to acquire any more money to have shelter.
food is retardedly cheap, you can eat for $3/day. nobody is starving in america. there are food stamps also.
plus, you can work, save up money, then quit and live off it.

>Remember, mommy and daddy will die, and so will auntie, so will brother and sister, until eventually you are forced to fend for yourself. And neetbucks aren't enough.
what is an inheritance?
also I KNOW THAT. i CAN get a job, rather easily. i choose not to, because i don't need one now.

read my OP:
> the only thing that annoys me is knowing that one day i'll have to go back to working... the thought of that fills me with absolute dread

Hey OP I turn 25 next month.

>go to college, not a top 10 school or something, just a decent state school
>get decent grades, graduate a year early
>get a corporate job lined up before I even graduate
>21 years old making more money than any of my friends, felt cool
>got promoted into my current role and now making even more money
>was nice at first but got old after about a year
>as time goes on my will to go to work diminishes
>office politics
>constant bullshit hoops I'm jumping through
>constant stream of changing priorities and new "high priority" requests that will completely fuck up my work load
>probably spend a combined 10 hours/week in stupid meetings that don't do anything
>constant anxiety and also probably some depression(to be fair I think I had these problems before but this environment really amplifies it and I'm finally thinking about seeing someone about it)
>every morning now I wake up thinking of excuses I could give to take the day off but can never justify it, haven't taken a sick day in 2 years
>also our managers and corporate officers spend a lot of time promoting bullshit self help and professional development books and TED talks and it's really annoying

Idk what to do. I'm trying to work up the courage to go to a therapist. I figure I should do that while I'm still getting good health insurance. At this point I'm not even worried about getting fired anymore. I have enough money saved that I could go NEET for a year and live the exact same lifestyle but realistically much longer than that if I just moved into a cheaper place or even back in with my mom.

Sometimes I think maybe I'll just apply for a different job but I realize it's just going to be more of the same. I guess some change could at least shake things up for a few months or so and I'd probably get a nice raise by switching companies.

Seeing stories like yours gives me hope. I can only imagine the sense of freedom you experienced that last day when you got home.

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Wanna know the worst of it, fellow anons? You haven't needed to work since before you were born. Nichola Tesla perfected the means to communicate inter-galactically, harnessed the natural motion of the Earth into a useable energy source and found the means to transfer it wirelessly anywhere around the planet.

And that was before 1950.

Just imagine what they can do now, with the pentagon having "Misplaced" estimates of $21,000,000,000,000 It really makes you wonder, what the fuck have they been doing?

It's all easily verified information. In fact, if the world understood how much has been hidden from them, revolution would be quick and bloodless. We'd be a space faring planet in the next decade and "Money" would be a thing of the past.

But, that depends on all of you "debunking" what I said. Surely you can't all believe society is running itself into the fucking ground around us by "accident".

I mean fuck, listen to yourselves, you already waste 40 hours a week being a wage cuck. Look into it for yourself and find the Truth of it. We've all been lied too for a long, long time.

>Seeing stories like yours gives me hope. I can only imagine the sense of freedom you experienced that last day when you got home.
yep, it was literally my first vacation i ever had.

people at work were so confused. when i told them i was taking a vacation, they conflated it with traveling. "where are you travelling to user?"

i actually had no plans to travel anywhere (i don't like travelling) but eventually i just started saying i'm going to my parents beach house and will just do "whatever i feel like, in the spur of the moment"

have you ever had a vacation? that might help

i also understand you about the "making more money than any of my friends" thing. i was like that for a while, but a very large portion went to rent (something i now absolutely despise having paid for years)

after a point, the money doesn't even matter. i felt like i would rather PAY to get time off work, it was that terrible

I will sometimes take a few days off and just not do anything, usually try to plan this around holidays.

I always feel like I need to justify days off to people though. I feel like I can't just say "I'm going to take three days off and I'm just going to sit in my apartment and play videogames."

I know it's my own time and I shouldn't feel self conscious about it but I do. A lot of the time too I will wait until my burner days are about to expire and then use that as an excuse to take a lot of PTO because "well if I don't use them I lose them" and people seem to be more forgiving.

It doesn't seem to really help though. It just makes me dread going back to work even more.

>I will sometimes take a few days off and just not do anything, usually try to plan this around holidays.
that's what i would do. i would take random mondays off and say i was "sick" but really i just wanted to sleep in

>I always feel like I need to justify days off to people though. I feel like I can't just say "I'm going to take three days off and I'm just going to sit in my apartment and play videogames."
yeah, a good excuse is family shit

>I know it's my own time and I shouldn't feel self conscious about it but I do. A lot of the time too I will wait until my burner days are about to expire and then use that as an excuse to take a lot of PTO because "well if I don't use them I lose them" and people seem to be more forgiving.

you get PAID time off? consider yourself privilege

>It just makes me dread going back to work even more.
that's the problem. that is what NEETdom did to me. it's a boomerang: it makes you happy because you can finally enjoy life, but at the same time it makes wageslaving many times worse because you realize how much better life actually could be if you didn't have to do it

>mommy and daddy will die
+30yo neet here, can confirm...

>Wagies really believe what they do for money counts as a 'purpose'

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>you get PAID time off? consider yourself privilege

Yeah my company actually has pretty nice PTO. I get 4 weeks total on top of sick time hours that never stop accruing. I never use sick time, so I have like 160 hours stacked up.

They have to approve your PTO though so it's not like I could take 4 weeks all at once unless I had a good reason.

/shrug

Is that working sucks so much that there are shitty jobs, ok jobs, and fucking godtier jobs

I've done all 3

> Worked at a call center. Fucking horrible
> Worked at a warehouse doing inventory at night. Listened to music and moved boxes and chilled.

> Currently working in job with multiple roles....coding, business strategy, finance, and on and on. The role was made for me so I could take it.

I'm actually respected and people listen to what I say. I get to make very stressful but impactful decisions. My bosses want to see me do better and support me. I have very flexible hours. Some weeks I work a slot and some I barely work. I have a mix of being in office and working at home. My boss doesn't micromanage my time because he trusts me and I honor that trust by not abusing it. Pay keeps getting better too.

Basically, I don't fucking wake up thinking how shitty this day will be. I suffered for this shit though. It was hard. And it fucking keeps getting harder. And I still wonder if there is even a fucking point to all this.

Based OP, eternal reminder anyone who doesn't enjoy being NEET is a fake robot and not welcome here.

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>And I still wonder if there is even a fucking point to all this.

There isn't.

>fucking godtier jobs
that's simply an opinion, and not every person could actually have a "godtier job" -- it simply doesn't exist. i mean maybe if you have a rich dad who gets you a low-stress job at his well established company. basically, nepotism

>I'm actually respected and people listen to what I say. I get to make very stressful but impactful decisions. My bosses want to see me do better and support me. I have very flexible hours. Some weeks I work a slot and some I barely work. I have a mix of being in office and working at home. My boss doesn't micromanage my time because he trusts me and I honor that trust by not abusing it.
seems like it gives you a sense of self-importance.

>Pay keeps getting better too.
this is literally the only positive thing you said, at all

>I still wonder if there is even a fucking point to all this.
if you can't get a gf, it's just to retire early. unless you have very expensive tastes/interests

I do not disagree with anything you have said.

> Yes you are right that there aren't enough "godtier" jobs for everyone. That's why they are "god tier".
> I do want to be valued and be useful. I'm a dude. Biology and all that.
> The pay is pretty nice.
> A non dysfunctional gf ACTUALLY might happen.

>> Yes you are right that there aren't enough "godtier" jobs for everyone. That's why they are "god tier".

i am saying, for some people, there is no such thing as a 'god tier' job.

for myself, it would be something that basically requires 0 effort or focus on my part, but i still get paid. in other words, not a job in the slightest

> I do want to be valued and be useful. I'm a dude. Biology and all that.
i agree 100%, and i also want to be valued and useful. but not for purely monetary reasons, that is vacuous. if someone only values you for your ability to fill their wallet, that is not good. you should strive to be valued for your morality and pursuit of justice and truth

> The pay is pretty nice.
obviously, literally the only purpose of a job: selling your labor

> A non dysfunctional gf ACTUALLY might happen.
it didn't for me, but that's lucky for you, i guess.
honestly, i got laid for the first time (without an escort) BECAUSE i quit my job. every weekend was just sleeping and feeling miserable. i quit my job and met up with a girl on tinder and we went to the beach, i fucked her 3x in a hotel. i could never have achieved this while wageslaving

to be fair, i didn't even really enjoy it all that much

I'm trying to make an app or website I can make money off of cause this working shit sucks
>Graduated science meme degree
>Profs convinced me the job market was good so I decided to work for 2 years then apply for grad school
>Couldn't get a research position
>Finally get a job 2 weeks before first loan payment is due
>$14.50/Hr. 50 miles away (100 mile round trip)
>First week is alright, train me on some stuff
>Second week they don't train me, instead make me do some lab keep up with this retarded guy who only worked there cause his wife got him a job cause she didn't like him being a truck driver
>Dudes a fucking idiot and can hardly pronounce the shit he's supposed to order
>My trainer tells me I have to basically harass the manager to get them to sign off on training so I can do tests and give me more training
>I ask the fat manager bitch
>Again she tells me to help the retard
>This goes on for about two weeks
>One day I ask and she looks at me like she wants to kill me and says "you know what to do"
>Decide to just ask if I can go home early cause I have nothing to do
>She allows it
I knew I should've quit after that, but I stayed like an idiot. Eventually got fired after 8 months cause "it wasn't working out". What pissed me off was that their reasoning was that I was wasting time by sitting at my desk, even though I hardly had any tests to do and they wouldn't train me on anything else. I've been stuck in perma-temp hell ever since and can't go to grad school cause only one prof responded to my request to write me a letter of rec. Shit sucks, wish I did computer science instead of chemistry

I'm going to try to put this from my view point. I'm not really good at explaining this shit.

I used to feel like that about work. That it would always be shitty. I used to think that the best job where was I wasn't working and making money. Eventually, that changed to the best job possible where was I doing something "meaningful" ( whatever that means to the individual)

It's not really about my job. It's just that I feel like I improved enough to point where I'm just useful and respected. But not for purely money reasons but also for competence too. For me,specifically, that matters a lot. People get handed a lot of shit but that's something you have to try to earn on your own.

Ultimately, it makes me feel less shitty about myself. I feel like I'm a better person I think. It makes me think that I have a future that I can't imagine at all if that makes any sense.

I've gotten different offers for more pay for similar positions. So I don't feel too scared that it was just this one time. It might be possible for me to do more shit that helps out people in the future (and make some money). Maybe?

>I'm trying to make an app or website I can make money off of cause this working shit sucks
i am a web developer. i can make any website probably -- something like Jow Forums would take me no more than 2 weeks if i was properly motivated. got any good ideas? i don't, at least for making money

i also know a bit about app development

my kik is 'weaslethorpe' btw if you wanna chat

You're just gonna steal my idea :(
I was just gonna use wordpress and memberpress. I'm basically just gonna sell girls pics at a lower price

>I doing something "meaningful" ( whatever that means to the individual)
i have a sense of what is meaningful. unfortunately, there is no way i can pursue it and make money. in fact, it would probably prevent me from making money, if i truly pursued it with my real identity. i would have to do it entirely anonymously

>It's not really about my job. It's just that I feel like I improved enough to point where I'm just useful and respected.
i was basically the most respected programmer at my old job. it meant nothing to me, because that stuff was meaningless.
lucky for you that you can find value in the workforce, but i certainly can't.

consider your privilege, normie.
what would you die for, happily? what would you kill for?

>It might be possible for me to do more shit that helps out people in the future (and make some money). Maybe?

if you TRULY wanted to help people, you wouldn't really be making money off of it. i mean shit, you can go around volunteering and fixing people's houses for free, building houses for the poor... but if you want to make a truly positive impact [assuming you're american] you have to start slaughtering the enemies of america. or convincing others that it needs to be done, really.

mfw in 5 years i'll be rich in crypto from neetdom. Already been in the space since 2016 and made some cash. BETA uprising will actually come when all of Jow Forums is rich ;)

>I was just gonna use wordpress and memberpress
nigger don't use wordpress at all, it's trash. and no i won't, honestly.

>I'm basically just gonna sell girls pics at a lower price
how the heck would you even make money off that? makes no sense. also, wouldn't it be copyright infringement? do you even own the pics

well shit if im a normie now though then fuck

Buy the pics, then sell them at lower price to more people than actually buy from the girl

Also, what site should I use to make a website? Was originally gonna use patreon, but I think they'd be too intrusive, and I was gonna use wordpress cause memberpress could handle all the transactions

>Buy the pics, then sell them at lower price to more people than actually buy from the girl
i still think there will be copyright issues here

>Also, what site should I use to make a website?
i have my own system i coded in PHP. it's like wordpress but better

>Was originally gonna use patreon, but I think they'd be too intrusive, and I was gonna use wordpress cause memberpress could handle all the transactions
payment systems are easy as fuck to integrate. the problem with wordpress is that if there's not an addon that does EXACTLY what you want done, then it's a bitch to customize

I see
I was thinking since I would buy the pics from them, I could sell them if I wanted to, unless they had some sort of text saying not to do it

who are you buying pics from?

random people?

>unless they had some sort of text saying not to do it
if you're just buying pics from random people, i guess they won't have anything preventing it from happening

no reason to get wordpress though, i still think. you need to get your own hosting anyway

I agree OP. Most wagecuck work doesn't fulfill people at all, the best it can do is mask their problems like alcohol. It's really not worth working unless you have a good cause (keeping in mind many years on NEET might start to become a good cause).

Think about this: when you are a NEET, you don't want tons of other people becoming one and you don't want people to think life is too easy for you and hence take it away. It's like a public servant like a politician is never going to talk about how they have an easy job and get paid a lot - it's just not in their interest.

There's also the fact that people who are severely depressed or have other issues and problems that will be NEET, those are going to hugely skew things like suicide and depression upwards. But it's not because they're not in work, it's because they were screwed up anyway and unable to work. There are plenty of reasons you may want to/need to go back eventually, but you would have to be a fool to not take time off when you can.

the truth is that both lifestyles are shit and have their struggles

I am 20 and will graduate college soon. For now I am living with my parents and I know one day I will HAVE to work a job for hours every day that I don't like for 40 years. I do not see myself being satisfied with any job. I know that I am doomed but I don't know what to fucking do about it. Life does NOT get better from here. It is very unlikely that I will find a partner and even more so that I will start a family. There is nothing left to live for in this day and age. Most of our lives peaked before college, and that is certainly true for me. It just goes downhill from here. I feel doomed.

>who are you buying pics from?
e-whores, IG thots, random hoes selling pics on twitter
>no reason to get wordpress though, i still think. you need to get your own hosting anyway
How?

>How?
hey nigger, i posted my kik

you need hosting because a free wordpress host isnt going to let you use their site to sell pics of girls.

don't worry, it's cheap

google "cheap web hosting" or something

Who's the girl in the pic user?