Is self-improvement/help a meme? Each time I see some latest bestseller self-help book I think it's a scam...

is self-improvement/help a meme? Each time I see some latest bestseller self-help book I think it's a scam. Then I read reviews and people claiming it actually works, so I get hopeful and read the damn thing only to realize in order to follow what the author says you need to have things like financial stability, not be a total social outcast etc.

Anyone actually read some self-help books that are not aimed towards normies only but actual robots as well?

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The courage to be disliked is one that seems to be aimed at robots. Would explain why it's popular in East Asia.

Self-help books should only be taken at the broadest of possible views. All such "advice" is woven with the speaker/author's biases, whereas each reader/listener needs advice tailored to their own lives.

Not giving a fuck, for instance, is a decent mantra for ignoring all the lurking doubts in the head of an overly self-conscious person who is concerned that everyone is judging them all the time. If you never give a fuck about anything people say, however, odds are you'll have your share of regrets.

this one in particular is a waste of money
just read the original article, it's not as bloated as this crap

if you have to read self help books you're already beyond saving

A lot of them say the same thing.

When it boils down, it's just learning how to accept yourself and being to go forward with where you are in life. Some people, need to be told this. While others naturally learn this.

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'12 rules for life' by professor Jordan Peterson is good. Helps in small ways

It can't be helped man. I'm at the stage of desperation where I need to believe at least something will help.

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there's nothing wrong with you except your insistence that something's wrong

Yes. One self help book, the wisdom of the pengen or something. Its was bullshit. Basically told me I was a shy introvert and basically a beta . Best part it suppose to be a help book, but the authors "help" is to just embrace your shyness and insecurity because its useless to better yourself because you default back always to your base self. I was pretty upset, but was way more upset because the book tells you to write down a short story about your life, all the misfortunes and everything. So i did, wrote down how i jerk off to cuckold porn, how im a virgin, why girls dont like me and all about chads, my small penis, etc etc. personal shit. Than weeks past and my crush came over my place, a girl ive liked for years. She said that her brother needs a notebook for school and if she can have mine. I said sure, not even realizing all that shit i wrote in the notebook. Did nt even dawn on me until she ghosted me and i had to quit my job from shame of seeing her. Literally a self help book that made my life worse off.

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I remember that Mark Manson used to just be a shitposter on a PUA forum, then one day he had a years-long NYT bestseller. I knew him in his pre-bestseller days.

Greene's Mastery is decent read in that regard, haven't read much else really, maybe someone know what else is there to read which isn't actual shit.

Damn that actually struck a chord with me just now, thanks.

it's a meme, get therapy instead

Wisdom in general is bullshit as Zizek pointed out. If you risk all your money on something with long-odds (say bitcoin) and made out filthy rich people will say that just proves you have to risk something to gain something. If you were to fail then people will opine about how a fool and his money are soon to be parted. You can multiply that an infinite number of ways.

When it comes to self help I try to look at a author's credentials. If they made their name through self help books and not any other valuable contribution to society I usually write them off.

They are modern day sophists. I bet this book gets a lot of buzz around the boardrooms and breakrooms in corporate offices. "ooh fuck is in the title but it's for self development". This book is to corporate stooges what 50 Shades of Grey is to horny middle aged housewives. Makes me sick.

>If you risk all your money on something with long-odds (say bitcoin) and made out filthy rich people will say that just proves you have to risk something to gain something. If you were to fail then people will opine about how a fool and his money are soon to be parted. You can multiply that an infinite number of ways.

Yeah but when it's Zizek quipping non-falsifiable shit about the revolution then it's totally different lol

Self-improvement books are a scam. The only one who can help you improve in life is yourself, not a 2000$ self-improvement course.

the good stuff is all art-related. of course, if you take it as "draw gud and u will feel gud" then don't bother

God not this fucking book again. My mom calls me all the time telling me about this book. She even played 30 mins of the audiobook for me. Fuck that book

need to fight fire with fire. lay on the brain-dead normie humor thick
>"I don't care so I guess I'm already there huh? cool cool I'm already basically reading it right now, I have a Maddox article open"

My hobby is self improvement I consume this shit like water. Translated that means taking perspectives and philosophies to improve my life overall, to keep an open mind and always be learning. That doesn't apply just to mental wellness but also physical and practical. Most of which are found anywhere but made convenient in self improvement books as they shift perspectives between authors of their experiences. Whether they help or not depends on what you're willing and choosing to take away from them. Its not to just enough to read something you also have to apply it too.

>is self-improvement/help a meme?
People are made to adapt and overcome. Everyone changes multiple times over the course of their lives, why would you think its a meme to try and improve yourself/situations? Its unnatural to be comfortable in the mediocrity you set for yourself and most people don't even realize how miserable they actually are.

>financial stability, not be a total social outcast etc.
I read that exact book it does not suggest financial stability or not being an outcast. In fact it states that no matter what happens for every solution there are always new problem. Its intro even contains a miserable summary of one such outcast.

A lot of books also tend to cover financial status because its a common problem area that people need help in. I've never personally read one that suggested you needed to be x and y first, so I don't know what the hell you're reading.

And being a social outcast is treatable when you realize that socializing is a skill and enough experience will make you better at it. That means having enough failures under your belt too.


>haha dude are there self help books aimed for robots as well??
user its that particular mindset and attachment to the virtue of robothood you default to as to why you're going to continuously fail. You are the company you keep after all.

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Elliot Rodger had bought the law of attraction shit pretty hard, going as far as spending thousands on lotto tickets because of it. This was his last ditch effort to get rich, and therefore acquire a gf, before his day of retribution.

So he wanted a gold digger? Guess a shit gf is better than no gf.

It's such a broad category that at least one would be helpful for any type of individual.