NoFap does nothing

>scam retards for views
>retard falls for it
>spreads the word around bringing them more views

WHY WOULD THEY MAKE IT IF IT WASN'T TRUE, GUISE?

So basically you have to just stop being depressed and let women control you sex life. Sounds great

Nothing to do with nofap. I've tried nofap and literally all I could think about for the couple days I did it was fapping, was even disrupting my vidya.

Tdlr: Nofap does nothing and is a worthless waste of time if you want to become alpha diet and exercise.

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>regular exercise
i already did that before

>healthy diet
i already did that before

>productive and creative hobbies
examples? none of that shit sounds interesting, and didn't when i did nofap

>meaningful social interaction
HERE WE GO!
actually, you can fap AND do "meaningful social interaction" -- that is THE SECRET. it's all about "social interaction"

personally, i haven't hanged out with a girl in a few years. i was promised other benefits from nofap [via semen retention] -- i didn't notice jack shit

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo

Reminder that the placebo effect explains nofap's notoriously unreliable results.

I'm on day 7 official, day 8 actual. I woke up this morning for the first time in years and noticed that I didn't wake up to piss 3 or 4 times at night. Also, my urine was healthy and clear. Was doing my exercises and noticed I could hold a plank longer than usual and could bang out 50 pushups (within 20 minutes) easier than usual. Also been using the same discipline to skip meals. No real change as of yet (1.6 lbs lighter) but that much is expected.

also this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_deficiency

fapping depletes zinc

SUPPLEMENT IT

you are doing everything 100% the same, except not fapping?

or did you combine it with other shit, like:

>for the couple days

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You're supposed to do it for 90 days. I only did it for 23 because the libido increase was too much but the general consensus is that these benefits come around the 3 month mark.

Not saying whether or not nofap is bullshit(I still have no real idea) but 90 days is the marker and you didn't come close to reaching it.

Everything else is the same. Haven't been sitting nearly as much though.

>nofap changed my life
>his hair moved from his head to his chin

>You're supposed to do it for 90 days

you're always supposed to do it for longer than you did. it's fallacious.

>i didn't notice anything for a week
do a month
>i didn't notice anything for a month
do 3 months
>i didn't notice anything for 3 months
6 months

etc

It's been proved though that the minimum required time is 7 days.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18650557

>jordan peterson says a thing
>guy grows a beard
>joe rogan says a thing
>a literal drawing of a fat belly next to a six-pack (uploaded by a channel called Alpha Show)
>another drawing (by a channel called Masculine Man)
>guy talks about the placebo benefits of not masturbating for 300 days
wow...so this is the power of nofap...

that is about soi

i did it for a month and didn't notice 1 single benefit. it was annoying and caused me ADHD

>Explain why there's this endless catalogue of dudes who went full abstinence and transformed into alphas.

There isn't. You're being milked for ad dollars.

>All of these newfags
The entire no-fap meme came from /b/ around 2005 or so. Its ONLY purpose was so that people would get horny enough to actually go outside and get a GF.

fuckin newfags.

This is called "moving the goalpost". Nice job proving NoFap itself inherently does nothing.

shit, sorry.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18650557

>LOL I quit watching jew porn for like 24 hours and all that happened was that I got really horny and had to masturbate to jew porn again lol nofap is a meme lol

There's clearly more information involved now than the origin though. Funny that Jow Forums is yet again the source of the label

>before nofap: have thin beard
>after nofap: have thicker beard (because he let it grow)
I fail to see how this is connected to not masturbating.

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NoFap feels like a cult made by atheists. Whos behind this?

so? you say like white sissies with recessive genes can be alpha in 2019

try again

No, go to any nofap related site and they will say that "the great reset" or whatever happens after 3 months. If you do 2 days after the consensus tells you the benefits happen after 3 months and complain that you've felt nothing that's on you.

Their reasoning behind this has something to do with dopamine and that makes me wonder if just nofap is enough in that case. The primary reason to fap is to release dopamine(and the other goodies orgasm comes with), if you're hooked to the dopamine release and stop fapping then you're going to look for releases elsewhere, which means you may go on instant gratification websites more, play more video games, gamble, do drugs etc. If a dopamine reset is one of the goals of nofap then they need to 'no-' a lot more than fapping.

/tangent, but 90 day no-easydopamine might be something to look into

>>guy grows a beard
Pretty good 90 day beard tbqh. Being a sand person is cheating in that regard but still.

>The entire no-fap meme came from /b/
it's been around for thousands of years and has many different names and it comes from many different cultures but they all say the exact same thing.

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once again, about soi

basically, i think i know what you're talking about. there is 1 study that shows that there is a peak in test after 7 days of abstinence. this is a very small study from a brand new journal, basically just trying to make a name for itself. google it, it has been debunked loads of times

also, there is no control with people taking zinc supplements

NoFap is not some magic ritual that will turn you into Chad. You shouldn't completely abstain from fapping, since regular use is important to maintain reproductive health. What you should do, however, is reduce your fapping to a healthy level, once where you aren't doing it constantly to chase a high. You should also reduce porn consumption, or cut it out of your life completely, so that you don't develop weird fetishes.

>pseudoscience strikes again
NoFap does absolutely nothing but make you horny. There are no benefits outside of placebo unless you consider teenage-tier horniness a benefit.

it's basically a meme with no real scientific proof

i did it for 1 month and didn't notice jack shit

i can actually focus and do things now, since i fap. by 3 week mark i was ADHD and couldn't focus on anything. it was terrible

>and the other goodies orgasm comes with
an orgasm*

also, an adjacent reason is to just get rid of the urges.

there's actually 3 studies. I'll get it right this time.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12506329
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788

Noporn and/or fap once a week only seem best.

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12506329
both say:
28 volunteers
145.7% increase on day 7, then return to baseline
it's the same study, basically

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788
wow, 3 weeks. i did it for longer and noticed no benefit

i just want to see a study where they also took zinc supplements, just so i know it's not from that

my workouts sucked when i did nofap, i couldn't focus for shit. i had ADHD because of it. if there was a girl with a nice ass at the gym, i couldn't stop staring. for me, it is bad.

Like I said, 90 days is their consensus for the "real benefits".

I think the good I was doing in my life otherwise was why I was able to do 23 days of nofap, rather than the latter causing the former, but I'm not at liberty to say how nofap will affect me proper since the goal is 90 days.

also placebos help depression, so even if it is a placebo(like depression meds), it's a placebo without really terrible side-effects(unlike depression meds), besides the libido increase, but that really isn't the worst thing I've experienced.

>145.7% increase on day 7, then return to baseline
You're making things up now. It says:

>reaching 145.7% of the baseline ( P < 0.01). No regular fluctuation was observed following continuous abstinence after the peak.
This means the T level went up to 145.7% HIGHER than the baseline and then did not fluctuate. This means it stayed at that level.

*45.7% higher
correction

It doesn't. In fact I think I've grown a lot of hair by simply masturbating.

>"Explain this"

>posts a list of videos with clickbait titles and thumbnails

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i fap once or twice per week ive made it a 'treat' for me. it feels great when you shoot that first rope and it doesnt stop coming out. then the second long jizz rope rushes out. usually peters out around the 8th spurt

Doing NoFap for 6 months and feel nothing? Calling bullshit right here.
Sometimes even in a few days I have so much energy I feel like I would explode.

>placebo
No.
I went in thinking it would do nothing but I was wrong as fuck. It fixed my deathgrip so I can cum without porn + jerking off.

>Like I said, 90 days is their consensus for the "real benefits".
this is contradicted by the studies claiming changes in 1 week and 3 week:

also, find me one study showing a 90-day benefit. where is this "consensus"
it's bullshit. i did 1 month and only got negative effects. that shit was torture

>Doing NoFap for 6 months and feel nothing? Calling bullshit right here.
no, i only did it for 1 month and felt negative side effects exclusively. i'm back to fapping and prefer it

>JUST DO IT LONGER BRO. JUST DO IT LONGER

i can't. call me 'weak willed' i don't give a fuck. the 1 month trial run basically made me want to never do it again, it was pure hell

That shows a hormonal surge. You can't just take hormones once and expect an immediate change otherwise trannies wouldn't be breaking the bank with their hormone pills. it needs continued presence to show significant effects otherwise you're just experiencing preliminary differences like attitude and so forth.

Stop posting those dubious chink studies as evidence. China is obsessed with this Nofap cult, because they have a huge gender imbalance, causing many men to use resort hookers and porn.

this is utterly refuted by loads of anecdotal reports on steroid use

>Stop posting those dubious chink studies as evidence.
>post completely shitbrained incel theory

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>no, i only did it for 1 month and felt negative side effects exclusively. i'm back to fapping and prefer it
I will assume by negative side effect you mean you kept thinking about jerking off.
That your body pushing you to have sex. Semen retention increases test levels which is why you become super horny.
What you can do instead (i.e what most people do) is learn to focus that excess energy into improving yourself and your life - I use it to approach girls, work out and study. Doing things just feels so much easier when on NoFap.

testosterone is not a steroid

>I will assume by negative side effect you mean you kept thinking about jerking off.
not necessarily that, it caused me ADHD. i couldn't focus on jack shit. i couldn't read a news article. i just wanted to sit around and sleep all day. it was terrible. i lost all drive to do anything

>work out
I ALWAYS WORKED OUT GOD FUCKING DAMN IT. i've been going to the gym OVER A YEAR. OK? stop suggesting that, i fap and work out, you can do both

>study
i couldn't fucking read a single news article without going ADHD all over the place

>approach girls
i don't have that opportunity, it's not something i can really do.

>improving yourself and your life
how? if i already lift, how? HOW THE FUCK because i did 1 month of nofap and all i was doing was counting the days until it was over, laying in my bed wishing it was done. trying to read the news (like normal, my main hobby) but being absolutely unable and always distracted by... nothingness. it fucking sucked

>Doing things just feels so much easier when on NoFap.
i had the opposite experience. things i normally enjoyed doing were impossible. even the gym was becoming much harder to do, i couldn't focus at the gym especially if i saw a female.

testosterone enanthate is the most common steroid - it's testosterone you inject once a week

>post completely shitbrained incel theory
What? china has the worst sex ratio in the world you retard.
scmp.com/magazines/post-magazine/long-reads/article/2142658/too-many-men-china-and-india-battle-consequences

Nofap cult is pretty popular there, many of the nofap pseudoscience vids get plenty of views there

I never looked into it that deeply, but isn't the whole point of NoFap to free up the time that's used to spend thinking about sex and masturbation? Or is it about hormones?

Whenever I'm under heavy loads of work and school, I just don't have the time and energy to pump one out. I once inadvertently did nofap for two whole weeks because of impending finals and felt nothing at all during and afterwards. This also always happens whenever I find a new hobby that takes up time and energy; I basically just forget to fap.

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Because they're incapable of fapping and working out at the same time doofus.

the nofap benefits are greatly exaggerated. however there's no doubt in my mind that it makes you more mentally sharper and clearer.

>where is this "consensus"
It's what all of the dudes who claim to have done nofap for at least that long say you need to stick it out for.

nofap.com/rebooting/

the point of nofap is not the mild testosterone boost it's to rest your brain from the inundation of dopamine that porn creates

and placebos are so effective they cause side effects

dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6397879/Placebos-work-cause-effects-leading-scientist-claims.html

basically it's confirmation bias. the studies YOU POSTED show 1 and 3 week MASSIVE RISES in testosterone. if you injected testosterone directly you would probably notice the benefits

are there any controls for ZINC INTAKE? excessive fapping depletes zinc. supplementing solves this problem. it's basically impossible to get sufficient zinc in the diet without eating oysters

>alphas
lel good joke.

i was dysfunctional for 4 weeks straight. i had to stop. i couldn't do anything

it just aint for me bro

besides, i'm not in a position to get a gf, so fapping is basically one of the only joys i have left in life

>it caused me ADHD
>i just wanted to sit around and sleep all day.
These are close to polar opposites.

>I ALWAYS WORKED OUT GOD FUCKING DAMN IT. i've been going to the gym OVER A YEAR. OK? stop suggesting that, i fap and work out, you can do both
No shit, the point is NoFap makes it easier with the extra energy you gain.

>>approach girls
>i don't have that opportunity, it's not something i can really do.
Why cause you're scared? Cause you're ugly?
It's cause you think to yourself, "why risk rejection when I can jerk off and feel good with no risk."

>generally can't focus
Practice meditation. It's actually not a meme.

The point of NoFap is to increase willpower and testosterone. Men with high test levels will be more attractive and healthier. However high test means its harder to sit still and do nothing.

you speak like a dude bro but I'll give you the gist. nofap is largely about avoiding porn. porn alters the brain similarly to stimulant drugs. with regular use it begins degrading the pre frontal cortex and you lose the ability to enjoy basic life things as much as you used to. you can fap if you like and not cause these issues. if you fap without porn.

the first month or so like you talked about is confusing because you will have a lot more mental energy than usual. excess energy does not = ADHD. and the ups and downs. these are all common things when you stop using something that provides you with a huge hit of dopamine. you are used to sedating yourself

How often do you jerk off?
And post more Jew grills.

>These are close to polar opposites.
ADD then. i couldn't sit and read an article. actually i googled it and it seems to be "brain fog"

but i could easily lay in my bed and just sit around with my mind racing but i couldn't focus on any single thing. i just wanted to die -- but since i KNEW it would be over in 1 month, i just wanted to sleep through it. i took a good amount of benadryl just to calm myself down and get through it as quickly as possible. i slept 12hrs a day during NOFAP, i couldn't have made it otherwise

>No shit, the point is NoFap makes it easier with the extra energy you gain.
extra energy? that must hit you well after 4 weeks because i didn't notice anything like that.

>Why cause you're scared? Cause you're ugly?
nah, i am dirt poor. i am a NEET. also, i don't want to work because last time i did that it caused me horrible health problems. any 9-5 job causes me chronic sleep deprivation. i also suspect that i am schizoid

BTW i am not a virgin i had sex with 4 different girls, but each time i just wanted to jerk of after. 2b fair, i am circumcised and used a condom + they werent hot

i basically did NOFAP a few weeks after quitting my job. i thought it would help me want to get another, but it didn't. i still haven't tried to get another job though. i just want to lift weights. i know if i did get a gf she would bitch and whine at me to get a job, which i don't want to do

>Practice meditation. It's actually not a meme.
never really worked for me but i'll try again

>The point of NoFap is to increase willpower and testosterone. Men with high test levels will be more attractive and healthier. However high test means its harder to sit still and do nothing.
NOFAP made it easier for me to lay down and do nothing. i couldn't focus on anything i tried to read. so by default, i would just lay there and not try to read.

i still went to the gym, i never stopped. however, i was more easily distracted by girls when doing NOFAP, even ugly ones

>you lose the ability to enjoy basic life things as much as you used to
like what? i have been using porn for over a decade

>the first month or so like you talked about is confusing because you will have a lot more mental energy than usual. excess energy does not = ADHD. and the ups and downs. these are all common things when you stop using something that provides you with a huge hit of dopamine. you are used to sedating yourself
that's the only way i can manage. like i said, i had terrible results and all you guys ever say is

>just do it longer dude

nah, i'm not going to go back to torturing myself with this goofy promise that one day, many months down the road, it will magically fix. there's nothing but confirmation bias anecdotes. chads don't even go that long without ejaculating, they just have sex

you literally didn't even read what I said you fucking retard. you can fap without porn

here's some studies

yourbrainonporn.com/relevant-research-and-articles-about-the-studies/brain-studies-on-porn-users-sex-addicts/#brain

>the studies YOU POSTED
I didn't post any studies.

My only real argument is that 2 days or even 1 month isn't "the nofap gold standard". I think your ADHD associated with nofap is a legitimate reason to quit, I would try again later to see if it happened again but I have no idea how awful it is. I don't sing golden praises of nofap or anything and just working out, eating well, sleeping well and taking obviously unhealthy shit like games, booze, TV etc. in moderation is good enough to improve most people's lives and there's more scientifically proven to help stuff you can do as X day challenges too like meditation or journaling/expressive writing.

>you can fap without porn
i basically do that usually. i don't usually use porn, maybe half the time at most. i don't even need it at all

>yourbrainonporn.com/relevant-research-and-articles-about-the-studies/brain-studies-on-porn-users-sex-addicts/#brain

so 'sex addicts' and porn users are the same?

so the problem is orgasming, ejaculation? i would also have to avoid intercorse, if i had it?

so it's not 'nofap' it is 'noporn'? that's easy as fuck. i don't care about porn really, it's the fapping that keeps me sane

During college breaks, I'll jerk it once a day. Under regular schoolwork loads, I'll maybe go three days between sessions. My sessions last around an hour, though, since I use onaholes; because they take a while to set up and clean, I try to make it worthwhile by not having lightning rounds.

I should honestly try to masturbate more when I'm stressed because of school, though. It calms me down. I don't really give a shit if fapping makes you uglier when grades, creative endeavors, and mental health are more important.

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>unironically falling for clickbait
The absolute state of zoomers holy shit. I bet you think pewdiepie is your friend too.

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>eat one of these berries every day and you'll be healthy
>I did, and nothing changed
>well you have to lead a healthy lifestyle for it to really work
then it really isn't the metaphorical berry that did anything.

Nofap only works if you can already get laid.

If you aint getting laid, Nofap will drive you insane and you won't be able to function anymore. You will just be thinking of sex 24/7

No fap is good for porn addicts. Sometimes the end result is exaggerated by them, but porn really can fuck up how you view sex relationships and women. If you disagree otherwise then youre autistic.

They're gonna have prostate cancer later on.

that is quite literally a myth

nofap made me gay as fuck. normally i just fap to girls. it made me want to suck cock
after 3 weeks i bit the bullet and paid for a tgirl escort. i couldn't help myself. then i fapped like 3x immediately after getting home

i'm never doing that shit again. fuck nofap

>It's cause you think to yourself, "why risk rejection when I can jerk off and feel good with no risk."
or
>why should i spend all this time putting up with a female just to stick my dick into her hole?

having sex isn't some huge accomplishment. it's a lot of work just to bust a nut. if you're not trying to impregnate her, then what is the point exactly?

Maybe someone said it already in this thread but no, correlation is not causation. Stop you NoFap memes, you sound ridiculous.

I fap every single day during college days to relieve stress and fall down to sleep easily. I actually forget to fap during free time, I still have a part time job, because my mind is invested in other things. NoFap is a huge placebo anyways but it might help if all you do is fap to all day.

I literally did it for like 6 months or so and saw no difference
Blew the biggest load after though
Just limit your fapping, honestly fapping wastes a lot of time you could be doing other useless things