Have you ever been in bed with a girl, Jow Forums?

Three relationships, now a dry period of two years. Anons who've successfully lowered their standards and fucked ugly girls, how are 5's in bed? Is it worth it?

I wish

I don't want to be in my bed alone anymore

No I'm not a faggot orginally

Yes but she had a feminine penis (boiclit) and it would not get hard so I was strictly topping her

Is that a trap and how big is her penis?

GET.
OFF.
MY.
BOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDD!!!@@@@!!!!!!!!!!

but originally this time

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I slept in the same bed as a girl I liked when I was 15 and didn't fuck

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I have been in a bed with a girl, even slept together but I've not had sex yet

Yes. My greatest shame, the whisky dick on my only attempt at the age of 28. I remain a virgin years later.

One time I went on vacation with my friends and ended up sharing a bed with a girl. I'm retarded and slept as far away from her as possible so we didn't cuddle, but after we woke up she would get playful and put her head on me and bite me and stuff

>5's
>low standards
>ugly
5s aren't hot or ugly, that's why they're 5s. and the average user isn't getting 5s by lowering his standards, he's getting 2s and 3s.

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We both know the scale starts at 7, and anything below has obvious faults

Yes, twice with the same one. Never had sex though.

Yes.

>Invited over by girl for small party with few friends
>Party winds down
>End up cuddling with the girl
>Have a massive crush on her
>But am a kissless virgin and have no idea what to do
>We eventually go to bed
>Cuddle with her all night
>She takes off all her clothes except bra and panties
>Is snuggling up to me all night, caressing me, stroking my hair
>I did nothing because I was too scared
>Spoke to her only two times after that
>She got a boyfriend a few months later

4 years later, I'm still a kissless virgin. Want to die

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user that's horrible, how old were you?

18 very original years old

user that is not very fitting behaviour for an 18 year old boy

The same happened to me when I was 21. I'm 26 now and still a khv.

I really wanted to do something. But I was and still am a kissless virgin, and I'm scared of misreading the situation, or reading it right but being really bad at kissing/having sex and embarrassing myself.

I'll never forget the last time I saw this girl in person
>Leaving her house morning after party
>She gives me this look and very audibly sighs as she sees me to the door
>I say "what? whats wrong"
>She just responds "nothing..."
>Never see her again

To this day I still can't make a move on a girl even when I know she likes me. In clubs I've had girls walk up to me flirting with me, and I just give them angry glares and walk away because I'm terrified that I'll do something wrong or I'll be bad at kissing.

ye, we didn't fuck though

Look mate nothing fucking happens if you kiss "wrong", I will not have one of my robot bros this close to breaking free and then limiting himself on the grounds of made up bullshit.

fuck dude that's rough

I'm a 29 year old virgin but I've made out a few times. The girls actually liked it too. Just don't put your tongue in their mouth like a crazy retard and you should honestly be fine if you ever get the chance again. You just take your lips without puckering or anything and you kiss one of their lips, like the lower lip, and then you just keep going in a pleasant, relaxed kind of way. Just don't think about the movies or anything.
I didn't succeed in having sex, but I at least got that far.

But I have literally no idea how to kiss. I dont know what motions you're supposed to make with your mouth and/or tongue, what you're supposed to do with your hands during it, how long it's supposed to last. Im 22 years old with no idea how to kiss

If I kiss someone wrong I'll be really embarrassed and the girl will think I'm pathetic and be really disappointed in my lack of performance, even if she thinks I'm attractive. And if I cant even kiss right, how on earth am I gonna know how to have sex right?

yeah but never had sex

If you do your best to relax and do what feels good to you, your instincts take over. You do realize there's a finite amount of motions two tongues can do together, right? Your hands just go on a sort of exploring expedition, always holding back a bit and going to naughtier places as the kissing gets more intense. Her body language tells you if you're moving to fast. I can't even believe I'm typing this out, just fucking try. Ever had someone repeatedly tell you something isn't so bad, tried, and realized they're right? You've got several tens of thousands of years of biological conditioning for this, you WILL figure it out. Random girls at bars are drunk anyway and lax in their standards.

follow what she's doing. I told one girl I made out with that I didn't have much experience kissing so she gave me a kissing lesson which was pretty awesome. If you get to the point of making out they really don't care about how pathetic you are anymore. Also kissing is not that good.

I'm a dicklet volcel virgin, would you help a bro here?
>have this thin, black haired, nice ass girl text me out of nowhere
>I've only caught her glancing towards me a couple of times before
>Conversation is really vapid and boring, hard to carry on. We get to compliment each other tho
>Eventually ghost her
>ff 4 months till today.
>she messaged me three days ago I respond and excuse myself
>she texts back immediately
what's the correct move here? I want to fuck her but I don't know how to make her come over and gib sex

>girl takes initiative and kisses me
>my first kiss ever
>she goes in again, and I jam my tongue in her mouth
>she never tries to kiss again
fuck off for reminding me user

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I dont know. Im worried that maybe I dont have the natural part of my brain that "instinctively knows" how to kiss or do sexual things. Like maybe I was born without a crucial part of my brain, and thats why I ended up a kissless virgin

When I was 17 I did sort of kiss a girl, but not properly. We were both really drunk, and I did it really badly. Like really bad. She was too drunk to notice. But my sober friend saw us, and a few weeks later he told me that it looked like "I was eating her face off". I was so embarrassed by him telling me this that it gave me a complex, and now I'm too scared to kiss a girl out of fear that I might be too sexually retarded to kiss properly

i didnt have my first kiss until 20. when i first kissed the girl it was very bad and awkward, but then i went in for round 2 and it was better and before long we were making out like savages and she said "it was awkward at first but you turned out to be a good kisser"

there is nothing to fear. you will learn quickly and if you dont, an awkward kiss is better than no kiss. i actually cant believe you had a half naked girl playing with you in bed and you didnt even get a kiss lmao. you need to get it together asap man

ask her to come over
perhaps make up an excuse like watching a movie together but she'll know what you mean
if she texts you out of nowhere she's probably ovulating and therefor horny so you want to act as quickly as possible because next week her period will start

You sound like you'll make it
I won't

No, what you have is a pathetic lack of faith in yourself. Anyway, do you want to die kissless or do you want to be a bit silly while you practice?

As for your second point, just don't go full retard. Do it slow and nice and you literally can't fuck up.

shitty situation bc I'm far from home now (vacation) and I have 5 days before coming back

>i actually cant believe you had a half naked girl playing with you in bed and you didnt even get a kiss lmao

Yeah it was bad. I think that incident ruined my life in several ways. I've never gotten over it.

She must have been really into me. She had been flirting with me for a while before that but because she never came directly out and said "I like you" I kept thinking that maybe it was all a coincidence. I didn't want to try something and get rejected. The thing is that at no point did she ever tell me directly that she was attracted to me. She just kept caressing me in different places, stroking my hair, taking off more of her clothes, and cuddling up closer to me. But I kept thinking "what if she doesnt really like me and its just a coincidence".

Thinking about this event in my life used to bring me intense crushing sadness. There was even some music that I couldn't listen to for a long time, because I happened to be listening to it a lot at the time when this thing happened, and my brain started to associate it strongly with this girl as a result and so hearing that music brought me nearly to tears and made me feel sick.

Don't worry, I made the same mistake myself the first time, and I even was the one who initiated. I was at this party dancing with these two girls and I was drunk, I was drunk everyday, and this super hot chick who was my best friend's girlfriend at the time looked over to the other girl and said, "We should make out with user!" She was joking but I didn't care, and I went in and disgustingly frenched her like an animal and the other chick started kissing both of us. That was my first kiss as fucked up as it is, two chicks at once in college. It was fucked up. I just didn't do the same thing the next time when I was lucky enough with someone else and it was way more normal.

No, and I never will. I'm destined to a life of loneliness.

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Did she make any signs of noticing the raging erection you must have had?

haha, when i was a Teenager and got my first gf
i didnt even know how to hug
no joke. i literally had no idea were i had to put my arms
and then the kissing part.. Desaster
asked a lot of firneds what to do with the lips etc
no one knew.
so wehn i did it for the first time it wasnt akward i leared very fast then a few momths pased and she was sucking my dick
fun times.

If by "in bed" you mean we were both in a bed simultaneously then yes, exactly once. All we did was watch a movie. No we weren't related

I've laid on a couch with a girl before. I was trying to sleep and she came and laid down next to me. All my blood started pumping, I was shivering, I got super strained breathing, and worst of all a raging boner. She got up like two minutes later and told me I was disgusting

Cant remember. I definitely did have a raging boner because my lack of experience means that any physical contact with a girl makes me hard. She definitely didn't seem bothered by it, if she did notice it.

I cant bear the humiliation of trying to kiss and doing it wrong. I cant bear the humiliation of rejection either.

But, at the same time, being a kissless virgin makes me miserable and sad all of the time. I dont know what to do. I think im going to end up a KV forever

You're pretty retarded but if it makes you feel any better I have my own mild version of that experience. A girl in high school used to sit on my lap during downtime in class and made it extremely obvious that she liked me but I never made a move on her either, I could have kissed/fucked her at like 16 instead of being a virgin until 20, my whole life trajectory probably would have been different.

That's why its important to get over that shit now because it literally gets 10x worse every year that you haven't progress. You're 23 now or something? When you're 25 and still haven't kissed a girl you're going to be suicidal, when you're 30 you're actually gonna blow your brains out. Being bad at kissing is not a real issue, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain. If you already have girls interested enough in you to flirt with you at clubs or lay half naked in bed then you have a better platform to start out on than most of Jow Forums. You just have to be brave man. Good luck.

hmm okay. Keep on texting her, but leave gaps in between texts. Make your texting behaviour unpredictable. People want what they can't get so if you're unavailable she will go crazy. I was once crazy in love with a very average girl just because she fucking ghosted me for days on end and then showed a lot of interest another day.

pro tip: Try to guess where she is in her menstrual cycle (ovulation means horny, period means avoid her). In my autismo days I had a menstruation tracker app for every girl i was talking to kek. So if I was right and she is ovulating today, maybe wait a little over a week and then ask her to come over. Don't wait untill her next ovulation because that will be to long.

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>18 year old girl does not notice the boy whose hair she is stroking has a boner

user you fucked up, she knew and she wanted it

>She had been flirting with me for a while before that but because she never came directly out and said "I like you" I kept thinking that maybe it was all a coincidence.

reading this I'm keking but I know just how you feel dude. In hindsight it's so obvious.

,dating for 10 years, before that fucked 2 girls in my college, both had boyfriend and three polish girls in Erasmus.

> I don't think I should be here

there wont be any humiliation
do the same thing kid me did
tell her "show me how to really kiss"

in my case she found it cute..

bretty based, user. I'll do that
Bonus track: I think I told her jokingly about fucking (didn't say it specifically) and she said yes. And I ghosted her anyway lol. I've got a couple more of no sex stories, we could have a thread about it

>going to sleep after house party
>girl I've been talking to lays down next to me in guest bed
>raging boner almost tearing out of my pants immediately
>hyperventilating
>shaking almost to the point of convulsing
>this all happens in under 30 seconds
>roll over and puke all over her
>so much it was like a horse puking, I have no idea how that much was in my stomach
>literally black out due to the stress and I never saw her again nor know what happened the rest of that night after I puked on her, I woke up in a different room

>I think I told her jokingly about fucking (didn't say it specifically) and she said yes. And I ghosted her anyway lol
based and redpilled

>I've got a couple more of no sex stories, we could have a thread about it
I think we are having a thread about it right now

Yes.
Probably more times than anyone on this board right now collectively.
Still a worthless cunt though.
Getting a shitload of sex doesn't do fuck all if you're a complete mess.

Yes, when I was a kid
So not in like 10 years

No. I also never held hands or kissed with one.

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>matched with a chick i knew on tinder
>she tells me shes drunk and to come over
>mfw im drunk too
>go over start to cuddle and decide to get high
>continue cuddling and proceed to get grinded on
>im drunk and just getting grinded on grabbing ass and tiddies
>she ends up sticking the head of my dick in her mouth for a few minutes and stopped sucking me off.

I NEVER EVEN FUCKED HER SHE JUST KEPT GRINDING ON ME AND PLAYING WITH MY DICK SHE DIDNT EVEN LET ME FUCJ HER
we cuddled and shit during the hangover the next morning so it wasnt all that bad....

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Have you seen or smelled a woman?

2 out of 5 senses isn't bad

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Your only problem here is that you're privileging your friend's opinion too highly. Sure, he's the only one who saw it, but who made him the expert on proper kissing? Whatever number of women he's bagged is not statistically relevant, I guarantee it, and his specific experience with smooching less so. It's clear from how you structured your post that your mindset is that you thought you were kissing well/okay or weren't thinking about it at all, but then your friend made a judgment on it and that gave you the idea that you "don't know how to kiss," with the implicit assumption that there is a one true proper way to kiss and that you don't know where it is. Furthermore, because you didn't notice anything wrong with your kiss, your assumption is just that you can no longer trust your instincts; again, "I don't know how to kiss;" when really there's two opinions that it was fine by whatever definition you give the word "fine:" your opinion and the girl's opinion: and there's only one opinion that it was "bad," which is your friend's. He's outvoted, no matter how sober he was. It's a goddamn mess out here champ, nobody knows the "proper" way because there isn't one, so just walk up to her and give her a firm face-eating.

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I slept with a cousin when I was like 8 or 9 and she was about 12

I was super innocent as a kid, feel bad, in retrospect she was cute as fuck with dark skin and shit, now she's a fucking socialist

I shared a bed with my sister when I was in elementary school

my mother counts?

Fuck the socialist out of her then, you fucking pussy.

i did that with my cousin but then she became a whore

>wants to hold hands
Fucking degenerate.

hahahahaa nope

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Buncha autism itt

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two but didnt fuk :(

Yes, once. Scared me shitless when she crawled into my bed, so I watched GiTS in the other room instead.

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Second date with this cute blonde girl, I manage to convince her to let me spend the night at her place. We were sitting in the park on the bench, she had her legs over my lap. Even grabbed my hand and put her on her tits, but she shied away when I went for a kiss. We cuddled in her room and slept in her bed. She friendzoned/ghosted me a couple of days afterwords. Not sure what went wrong.

Nothing probably, just female fickleness. Maybe you should've tried generating some drama.

Technically, i'm sure i've slept in the same bed than my mom at least a few times when i was a baby.
See ya losers.

when i was 14 i spent the night at my crush's house while my parents went to a funeral
>she invited me to sleep in her bed
>even kissed my cheek
>too autistic to realize she wanted me, slept on their couch
just end me

To be honest in this situations the best thing to do is just admit your awkward shyness and ask her to help you out. If shes already attracted to you obviously it won't be a deal breaker, and women often have that same fantasy of taking and innocent virgin as men.

More times than I can count, with girls of all races and various sizes.

AMA

what's it like being in bed with a qt chubby girl

How do you pick up girls in a club setting? When it's very loud and crowded, and everybody's dancing.

How are 4-5/10's in bed?

It really depends. I had a fuck buddy whose fat went almost entirely to her ass and it was always so warm and soft to spoon up against. Other chubbies have been kind of hit or miss. The ones with big bellies aren't so great because you feel like theres a lack of surface area to cuddle.

My clubbing days are long behind me, but the best way to pick up chicks in a club is to just leave your brain at home and go in with only your animal instincts. Just try grinding with different drunk chicks and eventually you'll find one whos into it. When grinding, you have to really assert yourself. They love that.

I think there was only one that was all that great, and I'd say she was more of a 5.5.

Fuck literally everything about everything I ever hear about modern 'courtship'. Pulling? Game? Picking up? Whatever you would call it. Every single requirement for interacting with women in any capacity beyond professional fucking terrifies me.

I once slept in a hotel room with 3 women, in different beds. That's about as close as I got to this.

Ive dated a few girls so a lot, as well as hookups, and female friends usually platonically cuddle with us. Comfy city I live in anons

My bed is for me and me alone.

yeah, a couple times but also another dude was there

and there was another time it was just me and her but she insisted on sleeping on the floor so I didn't get any ideas

Say hello to your mom for me.

>your instincts take over
>her body language tells you
Not when you have mild autism

>Ever had someone repeatedly tell you something isn't so bad, tried, and realized they're right?

No, my judgement on such things has always been correct.
The closest it ever gets is that the unpleasant thing is over faster than I expected, but it is no less unpleasant.

This. None of that stuff is ever intuitive or obvious to me. Nor does it come naturally to me.

NT privilege is a bitch

Yes. She is my only girlfriend ever. We met on here and we shared a passionate love bound by mutual interests and the same sense of humor. For about a year we always discussed what it would be like meeting with me always writing up hypothetical scenarios that she would then enthusiastically read. After my uni loan money came in the opportunity finally arose to actually meet. I took a 5 hour flight with one connection by myself while terrified of fucking dying just to see her in person. I took an uber to her city an hour from the airport and stayed in a motel with bars separating the customer from the clerks. I then took another uber just to be dropped off at her house. I will never forget seeing her bright doe eyes staring with a combination of excitement and fear and love when she opened the door after hesitating. We spent the day holding each other, cuddling, and making love that felt like it lasted hours. Afterwards we lay in bed with my body enveloping hers as we watched Youtube together. It was the best day of my life. I can recall the happiness so vividly

Yes, but only when I was locked in my chastity cage and taped in a thick nighttime diaper.