28% of young men can’t get laid

>28% of young men can’t get laid
>18% of young women can’t get laid
What the fuck is wrong with zoomers?

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Too much porn. Too high standards.

I'm not trying to get laid. Volcel life

Cope

It's hard to meet people if you hate going to clubs or bars

It's strange this cause back in my day males and females didn't really hang out socially outside of parties and school. These days I always see mixed gender groups knocking about together.

That’s neglect. That’s NOT volcel. Volcel is when a guy has to beat women off with a stick because he doesn’t want to fuck.

What age are you talking about here? After HS mixed gender friend groups have always been common.

How about crystal.cafe?

A socially inept generation raised on the internet alongside the whole MGTOW culture and whatever other shitty subcultures exist contribute to the lower rates

Me too. I choose to be alone because I'm actually happy being alone. It's hard for normies to undestand but I don't really get lonely. I don't need friends or a gf.

I'm sure I could get laid if I wanted to but I'm 212lb and I don't want to settle. When I reach my goal weight of 107lb I'll start sleeping with qt boys

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Your situation is one that is incredibly unnatural. Matter of fact, I dare say it is the inverse problem of the overly-socialised normies.

The Greeks believed that only Gods or Beasts could thrive alone, and I believe it fair to say that no man here is a God.

Find yourself a mannerbund, lad; you'll surprise yourself.

Do you also like to travel?

whore

(who am I joking, stop larping fag)

ive never understood the appeal of casual sex desu. it seems so pointless. society loves to shame virgins for "not being able to get laid" but why would i even want to "get laid"? how does casual sex with promiscuous people benefit me? statistically speaking nothing is more damaging to marriages and families than casual sex. as someone who wants to get married and raise a family why wouldnt i choose to remain pure?

inb4 "dude hedonism lmao"

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I doubt you’re pure. Keep in mind yiu can’t be re-pured. Have you ever viewed pornography? Thought indecent thoughts?

Don't get me wrong, I want a gf and a whole litter of kids. But casual sex is stupid and I'm waiting for a decent girl who isn't a blacked whore.

>I'm waiting for a decent girl who isn't a blacked whore.

They don't exist, unless you want to date an elderly woman.

unironically low/no meat diets

Why cant you find a girl that sharrs yout values? Plenty of women out there wanting to be mothers

hehe

I'm not that black-pilled yet

What constitutes beating women off with a stick? I've been hit on three times this week, but I'm so autistic that I tried deflecting al of them.

Yes goyim. Eat more basedfed pork and beef

i made a video about this
please be kind to check it out

edit: wow thanks for the gold kind stranger!
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>18% of women are too repulsive to get fucked by men they desire

Ftfy

Shouldn't that be 80%?

Because I'm an autistic fat manlet, who only finds joy in music, math and lifting

this doesn't surprise me. in 2013 the official manlet status was raised to 6'2". in 2016 it was 6'3", this year it will be 6'4". women don't want to have sex with manlets anymore. this graph only shows that 28% of men are 6'4" or under.

I have the most respect for good looking men who can get laid who choose not to engage in casual sex. Whenever some autist or someone on Jow Forums talks about how promiscuity is bad I don't disagree with them, but it is just a cope. Post body or face if you want to convince me.

As a 6'4 male I've already scheduled surgical castration for 2021, the manlet status will be raised to 6'5 by then so there's literally no point in even existing...

Zoomer here, it's the latter. I've tried lowering them but I just feel less attracted to girls that don't look at least 6/10 or if they're are stupid. The first part is probably because ofthe porn.

I currently attending university and doing so at 24, I’ve talked to a few teenage guys about shit like this and most of them say they don’t want to deal with women, they sound like jaded mgtows.

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fpbp. Absolutely based user.
That's it: porn ruined young people's approach with sexuality and it's a placebo for sex (why make an effort getting laid when I can beat my meat?).
Also females too high standards, social networks such as instagram and tinder ruined them: insta because they look at female influencers with their perfect bodies and luxury lifestyles and tinder because it fills their naive ego.
Anyway even if I'm a 24yo kv I'm happy I quit the porn and social network trap, I don't get laid simply because I'm a loner and I leave home just to work and meet relatives (I lift at home).
I'm not worried about getting laid ever because my time will come (when I'll earn more money than now) and, as Zyzz said:
>we are all gonna make it brahs

If you cant land a 6/10 its not your high standards that are the problem fucking zoomer

High standards. Not in the sense of looks, but i refuse to date anyone that has social media, tinder, casual sex even once, drinks, smokes, or just isnt annoying

This is the result of the the "free market capitalization" of the sexual market, thanks to apps like Tinder.

Men crave sex more than women. This leads to an imbalance: women are a much more valuable good than men are, and this has logical repercussions: whereas even just 10 years ago, a 5/10 guy could just have sex with another 5/10 girl due to being in the same social circle/living in the same area, nowadays the girl can just go on Tinder and have easy sexual access to an array of 8/10 Chads. Why should she bother with the 5/10?

This extreme sexual free market has the same effect as extreme free markets of any kind of economy: rise in sexual inequalities. A lot of men are being pauperized and will have to settle for a life of sexlessness. On the other hand, and this is not shown by your graph, it has never been a better time in history to be an attractive man. You can literally have hundreds of sexual encounters, they're just a few swipes away.

>inb4 yells of "incel REE"

based
casual sex is nothing compared to sex with someone you really love.

Female hypergamy, and male Market Place Value. If a female is not limited to mates of her age and in the scenario of marriage for life - older men will inevitably have more material wealth.

The real issue is finding a woman who is immature and has not fallen for meme activity of fucking around. That is, if you're in it for anything other than sex.

That applies to hookups but not relationships.

based

>Too high standards
>Hole
>Pulse
Fucking incels, think they're too good to fuck a puddle of mud

this, unironically

The 20s are a time to "find onself" user, not settle down.

But it's true that if you are financially successful, you can look forward to betabux a used up post prime roastie and finally lose your virginity at 30!

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this doesn't mean what you think it means at all. what it means is that attractive men can more easily capitalize on hookups to create a relationship and that the women who settle do so at an older and older age as the market becomes freer and more saturated by app marketing penetration and the liberalization of sex.

for men it's a chicken and egg scenario. there are certainly some men at the top who are at the top and love casual sex, but for a lot of men who want to compete and land a 9/10 or 10/10 not-crazy wife, they need to be as competitive as the top men. one of the things that top men have going for them past the age of 20 is a history of casual sexual encounters and the sexual knowledge and skill that comes with that, so in order to compete you have to build a history of your own. its obvious if you just think about it for a second.

>too high standards
Any explanation where you accuse the people of being an asshole in some way rarely satisfies me.
I remember when I was like... 11. At that point I had high standards because puberty had not fully kicked in.
By maybe 16-17 my standards were:
>it'd be nice if they weren't ugly
>but if they're ugly and dtf all right
And I am a low t guy, not a high t sex maniac.

I think a lot of these kids are just neurotic and fucked up and not only do they have no idea how to court and be courted: doing so feels like it'd be nothing but anxiety to them.

I don't want to die alone

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bro even if you get laid, you're gonna die alone
divorce rates at 50% and you think a virgin at 20+ you're gonna find lifelong love?

get real

Sadly, this.
I'm in my early 30s, and the dating pool at my age is horrible. It's either single moms looking for a betabux provider, the grossly deformed, or legit psychos that will eventually stab you 28 times in your sleep.
I could aim down, but 20 somethings are too caught up in their lifestyle. Multiple hookups, party culture, and a bipolar self narrative.
At this point, I've about accepted that I will die alone. I can find random hookups to satisfy that physical itch, but I highly doubt that I'll find someone to settle with at this point.

Depressing

Or i just might be a god?

actually what happens is that normalfags (90% of the population) sit on phone all day so they get laid less since not all of them can chad.

if you just want 9's PUA it up , its good for self development but tedious and retarded. and you are not exempt from looking good and having your own shit.

I know all the local PUAs in my city and they all get fat and ugly eventually becuase they stop giving a fuck anymore.

if you want a real relationship with a non broken girl you are shit out of luck by the time you realize it and build your system to get her because:
1. you won't be motivated
2. they are somewhat rare
3. you will be geared towards slags and filtering them will be impossible unless you had your share of slags (and earn point 1 of this list)

If you're not too hung up over "muh heritage" you can go fishing in latin america, eastern europe or asia.

Obesity, not even obese people want to fuck obese people.

Mixed race people are physically and mentally less healthy. You should be aiming for healthy children above all, not reliable cummies from your 3D waifu.

you can filter them out.
just because bipolar 20somethings and single moms are easy doesn't mean there all that is.

there easy because they are dumped more often.

the whole notion of being alone is somewhat correct since the current social dynamic keeps people apart even if they are of the same family.

The shit still baffles me

Having a good time at friends house, has a bunch of people around, meeting friends of friends, playing drinking games, having a laugh, fridge is loaded with drinks
"Let's all go to a club!"
everyone thinks it's a great idea for some reason
it's about 10 o'clock already
everyone starts leaving, so i just go home
you'd have to
>find a way there
>pay entry
>$15 drinks
>can't hear or talk to anyone
>shit music nobody really likes
>find a way home after

Get texts from various people asking where I've gone
As if not one of them even considered not spending $100 to take some photos and have a drink spilled on them

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I've fucked around with enough married filipinas to get me nervous about getting seriously involved where a green card is on the line.
I've still considered the idea though.

You need new friends.

Shouldn't you be chewing gum right now femanon.

Too high standards is true lmao

25 year old European here who lived in the US for around two years and has moved back to Europe since.

Short version: Americans are degenerate.

Long version: Americans endlessly regurgitate cultural trends and usually think they're unique and special for doing so. In deepthroating capitalism they have eventually succeeded in turning themselves into the commodity. Like any commodity you need to appeal to the market. With women this is relatively easy, as they have all the resources in the world already at their hands to turn themselves into amateur Instagram models. For men it is relatively harder. Men are ignorant and entitled, so they lack both the knowledge and the willpower to appeal to the market relatively more so than women. Some men have understood the game, they have adapted. Other men (incels) are still lagging behind, blaming external factors instead of changing. The most pathetic form of American man is the nu male, who attempts to adapt, but horribly falls short.

Overall a shit show with no winning side.

>you can filter them out
That's what I'm doing. And in the 30yo age range, there's nothing left. The good ones already settled down, or got turned into one of the aforementioned categories
>bipolar 20somethings
I said 20 somethings with a bipolar self narrative. If you don't know the difference, then good luck.
>there easy because they are dumped more often
No shit, you expect me to go after married women?
I suspect you either married young or are underage b&

when you reach your goal weight your face abs and upper arms will be fucked up since the fat pad around the cheeks will sag making you a 6 at best even if you had good genetics.

you have no chance to compete with 17-23 year old pro slags for their niche (which ,for all of their power in clubs and apps amounts to not much esp given how dumb most are)

stalk the area around the club later at night, its worthwhile just for learning about the insanity that is people , bring 1 good friend so you won't be up in your head all the time.
you will get plenty of adventure for the time put in. all you will miss out is the stupidity.

if you need a place indoors to just meet up any non shit venue will do.

If there's no one left, it's because you're low status. There are a ton of academics and career people who are still single in their early 30s, without kids too. They just live in a world you do not participate in.

Sex without procreation is a pointless act. It doesn't strengthen your relationship, it literally does nothing except release some chemicals into your brain like some fucking crack addict. That's of course if you look at it from a rational perspective.

This is the most pointless post in a thread full of incel posts. He knows that his choices are strippers and other trash, so he obviously knows he's low status. Unfortunately if you fuck up your first go-around at college, there's not really any way to elevate your status in our society short of getting a supremely lucky boss and working 80 hours a week for years on end.

the oxytocin deal is legit but then you have to ask yourself what a crack addict will do for a fix if she's starved of crack for a day or two.

Then why whine about it. It's just entitled to complain about being surrounded by low status women when you're a low status male.

If your gf/wife wasnt a virgin when youre met then youre pathetic

Settling for an allready used woman is absolutely disgusting

All your ancestors and all men in the past found virgin partners

It's not a fapping problem.
It's mental issues coupled with shit social skills, aka shit game.
I get laid plenty, but fapping is just convenient.
Nothing can beat some comfy personal time and good porn.
These zoomers are just shit at getting laid.

I both not trying to get laid and absolutely desperate to do so, what mode is this?

The disparity might be due to dating sites/apps. Can't be good in any case.

Underage it is
>academics and career people who are still single in their early 30s, without kids too
And they all expect to settle down with someone who is of higher status and higher pay grade. You'll learn that when you grow up.
>obviously knows he's low status
Mid range, which is essentially the same as being bubba tier trash in today's day and age. And I don't fuck strippers

How do you know? Have you been checking the hymen of every female ancestor?

Poor social skills. There's some cool Zoomer bros at my gym that I occaisionally do sets with. They clearly have lots of social anxiety issues and are terrified of approaching girls. Result of too much video games, social media...etc.

So you are lower status and lower pay grade.

You're a failure, that's why you can't get serious women.

Isn't it time for you to post HAES in the /fph/ thread? Then go and while about how you can't get the guy you deserve

I meant what you meant, all good.

the dating market is the same as it was 10 years ago more or less, maybe we now have tinder and instagram. you aren't booted out of having a 20 year old girl who is normal if you are good enough for her.

maybe it gets shit by late 40's for most men since you loose a lot of access but you probably could work around that too.

as for womans... personally by 25 their appeal drops off fast for me, but whatever. they got invited to stuff since age 12 and are more socially aware so it more than evens out.

They got lazy and ugly.
When I was young people moved about much more. We were busy doing things. We were active.
People today are smartphone junkies and are out of shape and ugly.
I see teenage girls today and I would only do 1 out of 10. When I was young even the butterfaces were alright. Back then I would do 6 out of 10.
You all got mislead by bullshit, spend your time with bullshit. There is little self-care and self love nowadays.
And You all sell that failure to yourself as freedom and getting rid of bad standards.

Standards are good, they make you fuckable. You can still become smartphone junkies once you are to old to pick up. Like me.

>technically this age gives you the widest access
For fucking, sure. I turn down butter huffers like
on a near daily basis.
When it comes to getting serious though, that's where it gets depressing.
>if its that important to you to marry (are you religious or want a large family for which you can already provide? )
The latter, really. I can support a family where I stand, and I'd like to be able to pass on my heritage.
>1. move abroad/new city part time
This is what I've been considering. My work allows for a lot of leeway in location, and I've thought about about trying new places.
>2. build a social life around the right places
At least here it seems like most social groups are highly insular, and don't welcome outsiders easily. I could try harder, I suppose.
>3. just get that good with game and people that you can make all the good options that remain happen
I'm not Jow Forums tier, but that's probably outside of the scope of my social skills

Meant for
I think

Obesity

I think it was because society operated at the level of 12 year old cognition for the most part so you hit puberty around the time you were about what is 25 in terms of modern personal development today.

look at the ages many famous older scientists got their education done, it was like 12-16

cultures that take a lot of time to develop for men like the masai do have 25 year olds marry 13 year olds though.

our modern culture is complex so women are really only "not stupid" by about 25 (if ever) and you can't just lock them out of their prime years. (but still marriage is dumb and cheats the men on his side of the deal today)

It's pretty similar for men and women AFAIK, doesn't explain why there's more sex-starved men than women. I really think it has something to do with modern dating, with 1/5 relationships start online and the "chads" getting more attention than before.

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>they got invited to stuff since age 12
this completely fucked me in high school(uk)
hearing about this guy or that drink or this drug every day whereas id maybe go to see my friends at the park at the weekend just made me feel like there was no way of competing with or participating in that kind of life, and eventually shut out the vast majority of people in and out of school
luckily i have moved on from it but still feel like a few years of social development went missing
nonces ruin everything

Less people are more inclined to fuck a fat guy over a fat chick, guys fuck anything

the whole point of social groups being insular is enabling this level of trust that you seek.
you are the guy outside a crowded bus trying to get in. wait for a less crowded bus or bring your own.

you aren't trying to be some FBI undercover agent, its like squatting 1.5x bodyweight, doable after building up to it on the right program.

I know sometimes it feels like low tier girls chose over highly developed men who compete for them, esp in certain central cities, but that's where the relocation thing comes in.

anyway my whole point with this thread is that this statistic is likely due to normalfags being 90% of the population, not getting laid. most females who get laid do it with 'pros' rather than civilians. aka pickup artists,chads,guys who work in nightlife, and other sex addicts with different tools.

Maybe the Greeks were idiots you fucking retard