"fuck i can't get up from bed sunday" edition
>old thread
>resources
psychonautwiki.org
>sourcing
all things stem from the self
>did kiwi die
no (s)he is snorting heroin now LMAO
"fuck i can't get up from bed sunday" edition
>old thread
>resources
psychonautwiki.org
>sourcing
all things stem from the self
>did kiwi die
no (s)he is snorting heroin now LMAO
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Back during the summer there was this one guy who bought heroin to try and ended up doing it all weekend and said he was gonna make it a weekend drug but then on the following monday he was using it. I wonder if he's aight or dead.
what a shitty fucking op jesus christ
I think I remember that guy. I had /drugfeel/ autorefreshing all weekend and into the week as well and watching that unfold was so interesting.
This. Stop with the resources, we all know what psychonautwiki is. This isn't some "welcome to the wonderful world of drugs!" forum, it's a thread for us to share our feels concerning drugs.
>giving namefags attention in the OP
fuck off addyfag
the previous one's not even dead yet.
will mushrooms give me a new lease on life? last time ate a mushroom i had nervous breakdown thinking that i had ringing in my ears... which i do but i literally freaked out about it for like 5 months. i think i am in a better place now. i want to be cured once and for all. will it fix me lads?
New threads are typically made when the old one hits the bump limit. How new are you?
Only been posting every day of my life for the past decade but thanks for showing me the ropes. Maybe you can teach me how to triforce while you're at it
>out of weed until next week at the earliest
>will mushrooms give me a new lease on life?
>will it fix me lads?
There is nothing in this world that you can just consume that will do this, but psychedelic drugs especially won't do this.
Maybe, no reason not to try them. I mean, don't go for some big dick heroic dose, just take a normal dose that you can handle and work on figuring yourself out.
>This. Stop with the resources, we all know what psychonautwiki is. This isn't some "welcome to the wonderful world of drugs!" forum, it's a thread for us to share our feels concerning drugs.
I agree with this post, OP should encourage lurking moar
When was the last time you took mushrooms with the goal of "figuring yourself out"? How did that go for you?
You're right, you need to consciously think about yourself and work on your problems WHILE tripping.
ya'll had a 30 minute window to make a new thread while I was still a zombie
p-please stop fighting let's get along
Is it really that hard to believe that drugs can have therapeutic effects when taken in the proper context?
Thank god the shaman is here. I'd love to know what the biggest life problem you've personally ever had to deal with even is
why? out of cash?
It's not hard to believe, I just know from experience what a mushroom trip is like and that it is too disorienting and expansive to come out of with any valuable insight that you'll be able to retain for even 12 hours after the trip. Going into a house of mirrors with the mindset of focusing on the negative qualities of your life sounds real fun though, so be my guest
Thats part of it. I'm in a medical state and I was a retard and waited until the last moment to renew my card so my old one expired last week and I ran out of the weed I bought then. The state takes 2-5 weeks to mail it out. I dont know any illegal plugs because I dont talk to anyone
Take a lower dose. Jesus christ. If it's too disorientating, then you're taking too large of a dose. Five grams in silent darkness is a meme.
Fuck alcohol. I was gonna hangout with my friend but now they're hungover. They said they'd probably be free today, fuck. Whatever, I got my Dexedrine and Klonopin scripts so I'll be fine. Maybe I'll just abuse drugs all alone.
granted I have no experience buying medical, but would they really notice if your card were expired by a week?
If you're taking a dose below an 8th then you're hardly tripping in the first place, but my argument is that no mushroom trip is going to provide some profound insight into life that will change everything for the better. That's just not what happens.
In my state they scan it for every visit and it wont let them sell if my card comes up as expired. I already called my local dispensary and they explained it. I'm basically out of luck until it comes.
What if the "don't do drugs" our teachers told us was true?
>I got stories for days, if you want to hear em
Please begin, I'm listening originally
What do you mean? Also the teachers that told you to do drugs were likely going home and downing shots and popping pills like no other. My roomate is a teacher and he smokes pot with me every night.
to not do drugs*
You should really look into the recent research on mushrooms and depression.
Here's a study from John's Hopkins which used mushrooms to treat treatment-resistant depression in terminal cancer patients. I don't know about you, but I'd consider terminal cancer to be quite the life challenge.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
The issue with all of that mess was that they sprinkled decent advice such as "maybe don't do heroin" and "maybe don't drive when you're so wasted that you're seeing double" in with completely nonsensical propaganda like "a weed joint contains 10x the amount of tar as a cigarette and kills braincells and makes you grow tits" and "if you do acid you'll either jump out of a window thinking you're a bird or you'll be put in a padded cell for life thinking you're a glass of orange juice"
I have no doubt that the study you're referring to speaks about microdosing, which is completely different then going on a single trip with the intention of getting a 'new lease on life'
Is LSD and THC the only psychs that "boost" the underlying mental illnesses? I tried acid multiple time and it went wrong everytime but I still want to experience other substances like mescaline etc
Do 2c-b
Ihj
>22-30mg/70kg is microdosing
From what I've heard, there's about 6mg of psilocybin per dried gram of mushrooms.
You should really read more and talk less.
Pretty much any drug with high levels of serotogenic activity has the potential to strengthen latent schizophrenia, but just because you had a bad trip doesn't mean that you have mental illness. Although if you're seriously considered the best thing to do is speak with your family about your genetic history as well as your doctor/physician
Pretty much every psych can make mental illness worse. A lot of psychs can help some mental illness. Be very careful and only do what you have control of until you're ready to let go.
Look dude, I really don't give a fuck about your opinion. Like I said, if you or the other guy or anyone else wants to go tripping with the intent of 'fixing yourself' go for it and have a ball. You'll only learn from experience.
>spouts bullshit and gets proven wrong
>"Look dude, I don't really give a fuck about your opinion"
Get rekt brainlet
How often is it safe to take speed for motivation and focus?
What if they knew they were lying but exaggerated because they thought it would stop guys from doing drugs. But they were right and drugs are ruining our lives.
The fact of the matter is that I'm trying to spare user from potentially having a bad trip, I couldn't care less about being "right" or "wrong" in /drugfeel/. But if someone is deadset on fucking their shit up over a meme, that's their prerogative.
stay away from it, dont even try it
>Be very careful and only do what you have control of until you're ready to let go.
What
That's why you take a safe dose and take safety precautions. If it gets to be too much, you do something else, like watch happy and uplifting media.
Just because you're a retard who went balls to the wall and got fucked, doesn't mean everyone else is.
What's the longest you guys have gone sober after you found drugs?
I never took more than an 8th and have never had a bad mushroom trip, but I am strongly willing to bet that I would have if I went into the trip with an objective instead of just going along for the ride wherever it takes me. Going into something as unpredictable as psychedelics with a single goal in mind is only going to make you feel negative and dysphoric when the drug takes the wheel from your hands. Its better to surrender yourself from the get go and not try to force anything, be it positive or negative.
I started using at 17 and I'm 25 now, I'd estimate I haven't spent more than 4 months at a time completely sober in that period
gonna do percocets soon, gonna be going out in public. Can anyone give me some tips and tricks so i don't fuck up?
I mean to say you shouldn't take anything more than is necessary. You don't NEED a reality shattering trip, a low dose can be just as beneficial as a high dose. Low doses are easier to manage and less confusing, which is better for anxiety. You should do your research, know yourself well and only do what you can handle. Once you have a feel for it, you can try higher doses and let go of your control for a while.
I dont know if ill ever recover from heroin
Oh so you're saying that you're not even basing this on experience? Just something you're "strongly willing to bet"? You've never had a bad trip? You've never taken more than an 8th? Why should anyone listen to you?
I see, thank you
errrrrrehe
You said here and in a post before that that you felt taking a high dose would be unwise, and that my word should be discredited because of your hypothesis that I 'went balls to the wall and got fucked'. I'm just letting you know that going balls to the wall and getting fucked was never the case for me. Again, I don't give a fuck if anyone listens to me or not.
I dont have any drugs until next week. I FUCKING HATE LIFE
Missed last thread when I said it but is nordvpn safe to use?
>tfw been browsing Jow Forums almost daily since summer of 2008 when I was 11
>Still haven't learned how to tripfag or triforce
You're right, a high dose would be unwise. If you're going into a trip looking for something, you should stick to low doses. That said, you've ONLY done low doses. Furthermore, you've never even had a bad trip. I'm not discrediting you for never having done a big boy dose, I'm discrediting you for never dealing with danger you claim to exist. You don't have any studies to fall back on and you don't even have any personal experience to fall back on. Your entire argument is based entirely in fear.
You should really read the study I linked. You should also read more in general. Who knows, you might learn something.
not him but honestly psychs will only fix issues that have obvious solutions you could've found out about sober
acting like psychedelics are a cure-all for depression just because some cancer patients weren't scared about death anymore is dumb.
In all honesty the lack of desire to do so just means you're not a tremendous faggot
Could use some advice. Currently on 7.5 grams of Kratom, been addicted for almost 3 years now and I need to get off of this shit. Especially since I met this girl and I want to date her, but she deserves better than a semi-opoid addict.
We've been talking for the past month but haven't gone out yet because my she used to be friends with my sister and it made things complicated so we agreed to take it slower than usual. We were up til 6am texting each other some nights, then we started facetiming, and I we talked on the phone drinking whiskey until 4am two nights ago vibing very well. We had planned on going out for coffee but she ended up getting sick, didn't believe her at first but she had mentioned she was getting sick a few days prior and looks rough in her snapchats.
Well we talked on the phone two nights ago and everything was fine. We usually send each other snapchat videos of our day constantly (both have the red heart emoji on SC). Well suddenly she quit responding yesterday. Texted me later and said "Hey I'm so sorry I haven't responded today, I've gotten a lot sicker and haven't felt like socializing." Now today we've barely talked other than some chats.
Am I overthinking this? Is she probably just really sick or did she suddenly decide "fuck this guy" and is trying to ghost me? Seems irrational for her to do that but I always trip about these things and I want to date this girl. Haven't been sick in 3 yrs so idk.
I'm not saying they're a cure-all. The study I linked didn't have a 100% success rate. But what is the cost? Mushrooms are not harmful, they're not addictive, and they're relatively cheap. Why not try it? If it doesn't work, you're out $30 and an afternoon.
>inb4 bad trip
There's a reason people recommend safety precautions.
>you've never even had a bad trip. I'm not discrediting you for never having done a big boy dose, I'm discrediting you for never dealing with danger you claim to exist
You sound like such a fucktard dude.
Yeah because god forbid I don't kowtow to some fearmongering kid.
Getting off kratom is as easy as getting off coffee, in fact I'm surprised you've taken it for 3 years straight without getting sick of it by now. As for the chick shit, you're definitely overthinking it. You're stressing over not talking as much for a whole 48 hours than you've been used to doing... whoop de fuckin doo.
How long does a half ounce usually last you guys?
Are you really trying to say that its impossible to have a bad trip right now
They're illegal, there's other costs involved that aren't just money related.
Someone with mental issues are more likely to worsen their condition than fix anything.
It's more useful and safer to seek help from a professional.
But I suppose I don't completely disagree with what you're saying. I'm just exhausted with all the "I took mushrooms once and now my depression's gone" posts that exist on the internet.
>professional help
Spoken like someone who has never gotten professional help.
Yeah when you put it that way I sound pretty fucking retarded....thanks dude. Kratom is the worst drug I ever discovered because I had my battles with opiates, but kratom is a mild opiate that I can buy 20mins away and can take multiple times a day and feel content with doing mundane tasks.
Is tapering the best option? I've tried CT, wasn't as bad as I thought it would be but the insomnia and cold sweats were killing me. I want a nice clean taper schedule that moves like a downward slope back into sobriety.
No, I'm saying that bad trips aren't as bad as you claim they are. Especially when you're on low doses.
I'm tired of the bad trip fearmongering that everyone spreads. I've noticed that every "bad trip" I read about always involves multiple drugs, large doses, or other generally unwise decisions such as tripping with lots of people/people you are unfamiliar with.
It'll usually last me like two to three weeks depending on how often I smoke. Standard, ten to sixteen bonghits per day. Depending on where that falls, two weeks or three.
My drug of choice are benzos. I took Valium at a concert Thursday night, 40mg mixed with some drinks and Kratom and another side of me came out during the mosh pit. Also lost my shirt at some point, great night.
But I hate valium because of the insane half-life. I was like a zombie the entire next day and slept so much. I like Xanax because it hits fast and doesn't have that slumped hangover the next day, only problem is that there's a huge drought in my area and can't find em anywhere.
lol dude I agree that therapists suck but I can honestly say that without mine I would either be dead or still cutting gashes in my leg, which has helped my mental health a lot more than psychedelics ever have
That's great. Not everybody can find great therapists. Even then, their efficacy is dependent on the specific problems. There's a reason that the study I posted focused on patients with "treatment-resistant depression". There are many people who cannot be helped by traditional drugs/therapies. What are they supposed to do? Live in pain for the rest of their lives?
Ok so does anyone have experience with psychosis during trips? First experience was at 18, and that night I had decided to start killing people as a lifestyle b/c I'd brainwashed myself into thinking I had no conscious with gore threads on /b/, end of the night my hallucinations helped prove to me I was wrong. Next one was at 22 in the middle of a heroin addiction, ok mushrooms this time, asked for a reason to live, met and interacted with visualisations of life/death;love/hate; joy/misery, felt a lot better for a few months. Had another one at 23, was laying acid and licked the raw xtal off my gloves, complete dissociation from reality, god complex, telepathy, aliens, jumping forward and backwards in time, completely nuts shit. Was perfectly fine the next day minus the existential crisis and overcoming the disappointment of not being god anymore. Had two more at raves where God complex activated again but it wasnt as intense, no powers of creation just felt eternal and could see the eternal...thing inside everyone at the show...more alien hallucinations, drove around afterwards and hung out with homeless people in Dallas just feeling so much love and...not invincible but that no one would hurt me. Second rave I spent a good amount of time inside the bellies of these impartial serpents that ate each others tails while growing at the same rate they were eating eachother so they just kept doing the do for enternity, had more god complex, aliens again, .
I am completely fine the next day, "learn" something really interesting everytime, no apparent lasting effects. Honestly I crave the experience now, but it doesn't always happen, just when there's sensory overload. What y'all think, am I gonna fry myself?
Yeah, psychs can help in certain situations, but that's from people dying of fucking cancer. If someone had a terminal illness and therapy hasn't helped them make peace they can go ahead and do all the psychs they want, I'm sure they could benefit I lot from that.
I'm talking about everyone else who doesn't have cancer or some debilitating illness yet still has suffered with depression for their entire life. Those people should try therapy or seek a professional, methods that can help and most of the time do help. Sure, a certain therapist might not work for a person, but you can always find another.
Like I said, I'm just sick of everyone posting about how great psychs are and pointing to circumstantial evidence as fact. They can work sometimes. But it's more risky than finding a solution elsewhere.
Fucking people having (sober) fun without me. I'm attached to this one person but he's barely ever available when I ask yet he seems to do shit with another person all the time. Gonna get fucked alone and not think about it
Are there other way of smoking heroin besides the tin foil method. Are there pipes you can use instead
Assuming you're talking about tar, you can try various vaporizing methods like meth piping it, putting it between weed or tobacco and pulling the flame from the burning plant into the tar, or even using a dab rig, but your mileage is gonna vary a lot and its pretty much always gonna result in some going to waste.
you could dab it if it's tar hahaha, try it out.
Am still recovering from a g of coke I took several months ago. My chest still pinches.
Several months ago? Might wanna get a checkup done. Got a family history of high blood pressure or other cardiovascular issues?
The pinching comes and goes, it's like a familiar at this point.
asked in the previous thread, but maybe I should ask somewhere, do I need to make sure to get btc via cash? not sure if it that important because btc can be tracked?
doesn't matter how you get your bitcoin, just choose the way with the lowest fees
if you get your bitcoin from a place that requires a lot of ID simply exchange your bitcoin for monero and then exchange it back to bitcoin if necessary. it's better to use monero in the first place if it's supported since monero has the unique property of actually being anonymous currency.
desuarchive.org
If you've never met her irl, stay away from it. It will never go anywhere.
You can dab #4 too. I've tried it.
One day you guys will grow out of psychedelics, find out it's a hard world out there, and move on to taking speed during the day and crashing at night with benzos.
Enjoy your trips.
Exactly what I was getting at with this post
would pst iv be safe?
i mean it's technically just water with morphine and codeine in it
Really wanted to do mushrooms tonight but I don't want to take them alone
Not because I'm scared I just wish my friends were here so we could be goofballs together. It's a different kind of trip alone
>plug is ignoring me
He's been really good about getting me my stuff but past days been silent / single word response. I just want my acid reee
I need to get some h or fentanyl to kill myself. I've had it. I've tried partial suspension hanging, and fainted, but I woke up. Anybody got a guide to navigate dnms safely? I know some of you use them.
God damn it no. Way too impure
everything can be found easily if you use google and reddit
it takes less than an hour
>did kiwi die
lmao ive stopped namefagging and post much less and people are still blasted
have you done them before? if youve done them before you should be able to gauge how much you can take before youre too retarded to function in public. stay safe user
doing shit sober is so boring, how do people manage that
I ate a 50mg edible earlier and rode out the high for a while. Should I take another one now that I came down or save it for tomorrow and take it on an empty stomach for max highness? I ate a lot today already and got high once, so I'm thinking if I take another edible I won't get as much out of it as I possibly can.
Is DXM worth the nausea?
do you have access to literally anything else?