Have you considered the possibility that you are slightly delusional, and that women are not actually as feeble and nasty as the internet has told you that they are?
Yes, teenage girls giggle at the appearance, penis size, and wallet of a man. But adult women actually care about his personality, how easy he is to talk to and get through to.
Women are people too, and they are at least as sane and human as men. You have just created this bubble of women hate that you live inside of. Pop that bubble and wake up into the real world, please. You still have a chance to make it and find a real partner.
Women are hardwired to only care about appearance, because good appearance implies good genetics. She then fucks said man. With the advent of Tinder, she can completely ignore us now. Don't lecture me on "muh personality matters, looks don't". Fuck off.
The men here are exclusively attracted to teenagers so they have no idea what adult women are like.
Lincoln Ross
wtf, Jow Forums is the last place I would find this inane fucking rhetoric. Approaching and even attempting to begin relationships with women is high risk and even negative reward, theyre nothing but conniving leeches. fuck off.
Ryder Martinez
>Talk to Dad about asking a girl out >"The worst she can do is say no" >Gets reported for sexual harrassment trying to ask her out
James Barnes
Frankly, most people here are socially stuck at 17, screaming cuck and faggot at the rest of their MOBA clan. Sad to say, but it's the life milestones of losing your virginity, being in a relationship, and having responsibilities that forces a man to mature, and if the whole world passes you by you have almost no chance to become the kind of person who could get those things.
Jayden Hernandez
All the women in my work, including those in their 30's and 40's are pretty harsh to each other. Women ARE mean, it's the esterogen. Try talking to a woman on her period
Parker Nguyen
>> Kinda disagree. I agree that responsibilities is what forces a man to mature, but the other 2 milestones previously mention can be omitted from ones life and they can still mature into a fine man. I hate the obsession society has with essentially coercing people into romantic relationships, they are frivolous.
Cameron Moore
I'm afraid the rift between us can only grow wider. The greatest maturation that happened to me happened to me because I got into a long-term relationship with someone I really loved, and I finally had to place her well-being above my own pleasure. When I saw she was willing and eager to to the same, we went from two college kids who both liked bad movies to a team of survivors that could keep going full speed even if one member was out of commission due to stress, weakness, or stupidity. I've heard that having a plant to take care of actually extends the lives of people in nursing homes and I believe it - having to genuinely care for something is the cure to Jow Forums's malaise of the spirit.
It's a shame that instead every voice here is encouraging selfishness, bigotry, and isolation.
Blake Edwards
>women > as sane as human men >you can make it bro just be yourself are you fucking serious?
No, fuck that. I want a young, cute, shy unspoiled girl not a big fat fugly used single mother with 6 niglets and rainbow hair
Justin Wood
>The greatest maturation that happened to me happened to me because I got into a long-term relationship with someone I really loved,
Because you've never attempted anything of value or substance in your life. Relationships mean jackshit and every married man I've ever talked to tells me not to do it.
Isaac Campbell
>Have you considered the possibility that you are slightly delusional frankly, no. i believe what i believe is right
Jose Stewart
>But adult wome- you mean single mom's and blowout roasties no thank you
Brayden Wood
>Because you've never attempted anything of value or substance in your life
I assume I'm supposed to use your definition of value and substance, here?
>Relationships mean jackshit and every married man I've ever talked to tells me not to do it.
Well, congratulations, now you have a single dissenting opinion. Marriage the right girl has made the rest of my life so much easier. It's not stress-free, but everything else I do now has that much more purpose.
Elijah Watson
Its good that your experience has done so much for you, and Im not trying to take any of that away. Im just saying that since there is a plethora of other circumstances within ones life that can inspire maturation, the milestones of losing your virginity and the like are not as crucial as user puts it.
Luis Clark
I'm with you that those don't specifically need to be the milestones, but I don't see young men in our culture undergoing painful imitations or taking holy orders or any of the other alternative milestones past cultures have had. Instead, we just beat video games and pretend like that was an achievement.
Camden Perry
>to a team of survivors that could keep going full speed even if one member was out of commission due to stress, weakness, or stupidity you vomit inducing normie trash
Lincoln Campbell
>we just beat video games and pretend like that was an achievement.
Not everyone is as pathetic as you. There are still plenty of MEN left in the world with ambition. Realizing that women are nothing but but a distraction and black hole for your money is real maturity.
Gabriel Lewis
>Not everyone is as pathetic as you. There are still plenty of MEN left in the world with ambition. Realizing that women are nothing but but a distraction and black hole for your money is real maturity.
Look around you. If all these real men are out there, they're not talking about in any online forum I've ever seen. I'm a senior professional and all the entrepreneurs and VCs I've met have been huge skirt chasers, so they're not in the halls of wealth and power either. It's almost like people are more frail then you're willing to allow and instead of forgiving them, you choose to spew hatred at anyone who falls short of your unrealistic standards.
Nolan Cox
Office monkeys aren't real men
Thomas White
You sound like one of those cunts always shrieking about manning up and taking care of Tyrones baby. Fuck off.
Jonathan Watson
>"all the entrepreneurs and VCs I've met have been huge skirt chasers"
But is that what made them mature? fuck no
Mason Rivera
Realized that, fought with cognitive dissonance for a while but it dissipated.
Now it's just literally not being able to see myself as interesting, attractive, fun, useful, or valuable to any woman which I felt was proven enough times in my life.
In the rare few times something would have happened I am completely blind or do something to screw things up and then I would stay inside for months.
Nobody (that I physically meet) could understand or stick around my shit, nor do I expect them to.
I'm too soft for this world.
Austin Carter
this and he calls us delusional
Dominic Kelly
>go to ask woman out >NOT COOL NOT COOL thanks giganigga i nearly ask-out-raped a woman, better go shave my pubes with a gillette-brand razor and try again
Grayson Brown
I didn't say that they were mature. I was using them as an example of men who have done "great things" and are still as immature as my wife and I playing video games. I guess the point I've been trying to get across is that you should forgive yourself for immaturity, it's not your fault, and try and seek out new experiences to build that maturity. Beating a video game might not take maturity but playing for a charity might.
Wyatt Torres
I am in the real world and that's why I know that women will never love me. The only way I would ever be able to get a girl is if I was rich and I don't want someone to be in love with my money, but with me. So I have no chance.
Evan Wilson
who let this retarded norime in here? sorry but your words are meaningless here
Ah, another Jow Forumsbraincels reject. We'll see which of use sticks around longer.
Hunter Richardson
your point is meaningless because many great men throughout history have be cold or indifferent to sex and romance you don't need to have sex to be great or mature
Owen Cook
Jow Forums is my home I'm not going anywhere normal scum
Teenagers are the most truthful people.They are impulsive which means they operate a lot on instincts.Adults are calculating psychopaths who try to be nice to people because they need something.
Kevin Long
By your logic men should be hardwired only for looks too.
Nicholas Collins
By your logic you should get on your knees and swallow my cum
Leo Butler
You see, the problem with this idea is that I've, pretty much my whole life, tried and failed to find a woman that falls outside of the qualities that we ascribe to them.
When I was 16, I stopped trying to date girls my age since it seemed all they cared about was how big my dick was, how big my wallet was, and how much they could brag to their friends and make other guys jealous.
When I was 19, in college, I stopped trying to date girls my age because they were all getting blackout drunk atleast 3 times a week and hooking up twice as much. It didn't interest me.
When I was 24, I stopped trying to date women my age because they were all bland carbon copies of one another- faux bookworms who really only read tripe and surface level garbage, and spent all their free time lazing around, watching cable TV and drinking wine. On the not-so-rare occasion that they thought their age was catching up with them, they would go out with their friends to try to recapture their youth, and end up in some guys bed. Again, didn't interest me.
When I was 31, I stopped trying to date women my age because they were, again, all the damn same. Every one spending their days watching Netflix romcoms on repeat and looking at all those etsy projects they'll never try. They meet up with their girlfriends to discuss whatever celebrity scandal is hot that week, small-minded drivel whole getting wasted on cheap wine.
So no, when you say not all women, you're wrong. They never stop being the same cold socially obsessed people they are in their youth, it just tempers into a hollow vapidity that defines their existence.
Elijah Young
>Have you considered the possibility that you are slightly delusional, and that women are not actually as feeble and nasty as the internet has told you that they are? You never had gf's bucko? You'll see. I literally had 11 ffs am 36yo now. Only fuck hookers these days.
Women overcome their biological imperatives as they more intelligent.
Joseph Murphy
Okay, great. If you're great and mature without sex then you're not online complaining about femoids 24/7. I have no problem with that. It's when you get no sex and are not great and mature that problems start to arise, and that applies to the majority of posters here.
no idea why anyone would want to be in a relationship in this day and age, the high standards and constant judgment just isn't worth it, you lose all sovrenty over your life and all you get in return is ocational sex. not worth it at all
Jason Reyes
>Have you considered the possibility that you are slightly delusional Me believing that I am delusional would just make my think that I am delusional for thinking I am delusional, and so the cycle continues.
Girls don't really care about looks at all, beyond having a trophy to show off to her friends or getting off to the validation of fucking a hot guy, but not the looks themselves.
Women constantly try to tame me, because i know their secret. And they don't want to lose their sexual power over men... So they try to, again, tame me. Its funny.
Logan Murphy
>Women are people too Stop reading right there. Here's my (You), OP. Now go fuck yourself
Liam James
>adult women actually care about his personality, how easy he is to talk to and get through to so I'm even more fucked then?
Bentley Lewis
adult women? you mean those women whos had there fill of wild and exciting adventures, fucking spree , competing for chads attention. these woman who are now ready to "settle" down with someone? lol in her deathbed she would probably not remember fondly of you you are just the beta they have to settle down because they hit the wall and nobody wants them anymore. without the wall they might not even spare a glance at you lol. personality is a meme.
Camden Reed
no, the thing is that all women and their husbands wants me to die. the only reason they haven't killed me is because i only leave my apartment when they are unable to kill me.
Im in my late 20s and work in a highly professional environment. Women are not how you describe them.
Theyre shallow as ever.
Jonathan Kelly
I wonder how many people think like me.
I don't hate women at all, I hate liberals and feminists. Most of those happen to be women, and most women happen to fit one or both of those categories. As a result I fit the profile for the loose definition of "misogynist" people throw around these days.