25+ General - Monday edition

Took the day off work because I couldn't be arsed to sit in traffic. Going to smoke weed all day instead.

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I quit weed give years ago. I miss it sometimes.

I'm wageslaving non-stop lately. Really busy getting ready for a show the company I work for does. I have to work a trade show next month which is hell for my anxiety and back (I have a bad back).

>tfw about to be 29
>still living with parents
Boy do I wish I could go back...
I feel like it's way too late to fix my life, and get some skills experience

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I'm 21 but damn I sometimes feel like I'm 29. I can't relate to anything popular, I don't like the memes people make anymore, I just feel like an old grandpa who has lost touch with society.
Oldfags won't accept me because I'm too young and I just can't integrate with the zoomer crowd.
Oldbots please help me, I barely even feel human.

27 still living with my father. I keep looking for places but they either never reply or are taken by the time they do.
I work full time and have enough to buy an apartment but I cripple myself with anxieties. I'm thinking of killing myself this year.

Yeah, I've never had a full time job. Just an easy part time, to pay for misc stuff I wanted.
Looking for jobs now, but the lack of experience kills me. If it all fails I'm thinking about just trying to become a cop before I hit 30 or a fireman or something

>lost touch with society
Imagine /never/ having touch with society.
I still can't relate to any of you.
I've never had a friend, never had a partner, never had any sort of association with anyone in which a sense of camaraderie was shared, because I cannot for the life of me think of anything to say in conversation. I just enjoy the moment.

I'll be 27 this year.

I feel like I might finally make it in terms of money and career. However I'm afraid of staying alone, money won't mean anything if I'm lonely and miserable. I used to not be bothered by it since I was a loner my whole life but recently it has started to torment me.

I'm not bad looking but time is slowly taking its toll, I'm slowly balding and my teeth are getting somewhat worse, I have a visible dead tooth. I had a bad eyesight since childhood so I'm not too bothered by that, but I fear it may get worse in the coming years.

I feel like working out. I used to jog and go to gym quite a lot when younger but got lazy.

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>week 5
>still unemployed
>considering sudoku
>doubling down on efforts to find a fucking job
On the plus side we've gotten 3 inches and it's still coming down, so staying inside is pretty comfy this morning. I found lots of good deals last shopping trip ($60 of food for $25) so my apartment is full of tasty things to eat, and warm and comfy.
4 months before my money runs out.

25 in three months, I am terrified. Still haven't had my first job, still living with mother. The deep suicidal tendencies are coming back too, I just picked an old box of Paxil I had but I don't want to go through those withdrawals again. Completely aimless and lost with no signs of getting my shit together. How do I push through this phase, I have no one.

Just sitting around drinking beer watching Game of Thrones. Trying to find something better to watch. Can't eat after 12am because I have CT and PET scans tomorrow. Want to smoke weed but it gives me anxiety. Wish I could get over that. I used to really enjoy it.

>almost 26
Every year that passes my chances of settling down get less and less.

My parents were major fuck ups and it lit a fire under my ass for a little while. I really got my life together and was obsessed with starting my own family and doing it right.

But now i just go to work, come home, and get drunk. Living that doomer life.

All because im ugly. I used to hate women but now they might as well not even exist.

You say that as if my contact with society was in any way good. The only people I know have either mocked me or used me, or both. Friendships have always only gone as far as my usefulness went. If I had a partner I wouldn't even be here. Though if I had a partner I'd also probably have friends before.
Conversation is boring. Unless I know the person well I'm just quiet and things turn awkward. If I do know the person well I can blurt out something random and we'll fill the time with some random talk. It's still boring, but at least it's not awkward.
But at least I used to understand what was happening around me. I "got" memes etc. Today, I don't understand shit. I'm completely alienated from almost every industry out there.
I was hoping some oldanon could help with this. I don't think this feeling is supposed to come when you're 21, it feels kinda early for existential dread.
Unironically pic related. If nothing else, exercise. Go jog, get a pull-up bar, do some push-ups.
If you want to try your luck with women you could try Tinder I guess but don't be surprised if you don't match with wife material.

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I'm 23. I look forward to joining you guys soon.

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Gained 15lbs last year. I need to get on the wagon. I can't stop eating sweets.

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29 Still in my room, still passing the time with stuff and things

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>turned 25 last month
I thought I would be happy with my life by now but nothing has changed in the past X years and I'm scared. I just want to find a cute boy and be able to start a comfy family one day. Instead I still live at home, am terrified of people and only leave the house for work.

What do you do for work? Have you dated before?

turning 28 in 2 weeks. staying in my room and drinking until i pass out. after i wake up i plan on playing some etrian odyssey. fuck my life

Could you have started a 27+ thread instead?

>But now i just go to work, come home, and get drunk. Living that doomer life.

iktf
Of course dating is almost out of the question. The commute to work itself is suicide fuel (over an hour on a cramped bus full of smelly foreigners).

It's traditionally been 25+, I guess it's because most people are finishing school, starting careers or families etc while most of us have either been NEET or in a series of low skill, entry level jobs.

I think 25+ is a good cutoff. If you haven't gotten life started by 25, it's pretty safe to say you are fucked.

t. 33 year old wizard

I have a boring office job, and no I haven't. I realise I probably sound like a child just wanting to have the perfect little family, but oh well.

I hope your scans go ok user

I got a new desk at work today! :3 \(^_^)/

I'm afraid I've lost most of my feelings. I know it's not all feelings, because there's still this yearning of my mind to break out of my head whenever I fail to distract myself with other fears.

I am well off in everything, but it is lost on me. I wish I could cry, because I'd cry it away for tonight and tomorrow. But I can't and it's only making me want to cry more.

Shoulda made it 27+ (ideally 30+) since these threads have been going on for a number of years and if those young 'uns didn't heed before they can get fucked now.

I'll be 30 by the time classic WoW releases. I'm really looking forward to play it, even if playing vanilla back in the day is probably the reason why my social life died and I became what I am. Is it weird? Like stockholm syndrom towards a game?

>28
>unemployed and living with parents
>right foot has been numb since September
These winter months are the worst when it comes to being a NEET. I can at least go outside(my backyard) from Spring til Fall and enjoy the sun.

I don't think there is a perfect family. First you have to find someone really great to do that with anyways. And you have to do it before you are too old and the risk of having a potato skyrockets.

Moving into my own place next month. I was looking forward it initially, but now I have to worry about insurance, and moving vans, and shit. I'm not ready for "the real world" yet.

I'm 24, almost 25, and have unemployed ever since moving back in with my mom due to alcohol withdrawal complications. I had dts and everything. I'm sober now, as a condition of living with her. She says I can drink if I want to, but she won't watch me do it. I want to get loaded every day, and it's hard because there's no relief at all. I've been thinking about trying to hang myself again, but my mom recently gave me a card congratulating me for coming so far along this year even though I'm an embarrassment to myself. So things are going badly and I wish hopelessly and feverishly to die every night to no avail. Just a waste, man.

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>27, KHV

About to move from work accommodation to my own flat for the first time in 2.5 years, kind of looking forward to it but it's more expensive and now I can't roll out of bed 5mins before work every morning so it's much less convenient.

Quite literally everyone I know if on my case about getting married which is doing my head in and the guy who is in charge of my work for the next six years has several issues with me, so it's going to be an interesting few years. I've already told him I ain't changing to fit in with everyone else and he isn't happy about it.

So people should just give up if they haven't sorted themselves out by 25? People can always try to improve there current situation instead of giving up. What brings more results, doing something or doing nothing?

Start with something easy such as cleaning your room and workout!

You can still improve, and should constantly try to get better, but by 25 you are so far behind that you need to re-assess the goals of your life and adjust them to something more realistic.

bruh that's exactly what I need right now. The longer you go without your own agency and place in the world the harder it's going to be when you do move out

>27
>worthless degree
>went to college and made zero effort to get a job afterwards
>only work history is overnight stocking
>left home with savings last october
>went to thailand and did nothing but drink everyday and fuck hookers
>go everywhere alone
>eat in restaurants alone
>now in phillipines doing the same thing
>got some weird infection that has made my prostate swell and hard to urinate
>the novelty is wearing off
>mulling lawschool

i alienated all my friends two years ago and ive been perpetually alone for almost 3 years now. outside of transient bar conversations i don't talk to a single person regularly. i got my TEFL certificate but the idea of being an english teacher is absolutely intolerable to me.

I'll probably be fine once I've actually moved. Wish I could just give them money, move in and that's it.

If you got big dreams such as becoming the next bill gates than yeah. If you just wish to live a normal life then no. Just get a fucking job that you can support yourself with and don't spend money recklessly. Also take care of your health.

There are some fairy successful robots money wise, socially is more the issue. If you haven't had a gf at 25, you have a lot of catching up to do.

>raised by my sister until she thought i was too annoying
>raise myself just doing the bare minimum as my parents didn't pay attention to me unless i got into trouble
>been in remedial classes since grade 1 and could barely finish school
>horrible habits built up from 16 years of just 'growing up' without guidance and discipline
>don't have family art skills like everyone else in my family
>don't even know what love feels like, family is just a part of life
>unskilled, emotionally damaged, mentally ill, ready to try but town has no facilties/people for the work/jobs
>have no passion for anything and play shitty casual games for those dank +100's
>also handholding, hugging, kissing, virgin
just hit 25 and i'll keep going till i die i guess

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What is this catching up? Date 100s of women until you find the perfect one?

Kind of similar to my story. In my mid 20s I improved in the job department, but still a khv/wizard in my 30s now. I also have pretty bad back pain. The way I see it we can either kill ourselves or keep trying to improve. Yes, we will never be Chad, but I think it's still important to try to be better versions of ourselves. I try to do better in something each year and have reasonable goals for improvement.

Well, some of it is that we don't have the experience that people who have dated in the past have, yes. I mean I imagine when you date a lot of women throughout your life, or even just a few, you learn things about relationships that we don't know. Also when you are getting toward or over 30 and women realize you have never had a gf, it will be a huge turnoff for 99% of them. And then you'll make the same mistakes 16 year old Chads did, at 30.

hey, how do you guys cope with the fact that you've missed out in life all the important stuff: having friends, loving someone, being loved. sometimes when I see a group of friends having a good time it all hits me how empty and colorless my life is

I'm gonna ask here because it's more likely that people in this thread will have been alive then. Back in high school, around 2004 or so, I played this shitty little web based game. It was like a pre-alpha version of the shitty social-media games that showed up in the 2010s. You started off with a bit of money and you could buy things that would generate more money when you logged in to "harvest" them. which you could do for 12, 24, or 48 hours as I recall, though you got more stuff from four 12-hour-cooldown harvests than from one 48. Eventually you could buy mercenaries and attack other people and shit.

Does anyone remember this? what was it called?

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Have these women explained why it is a turn off? Also what are these mistakes you are talking about?

There were a lot of these types of games back then so it would be hard to know.

Travian maybe

27. Just got a very comfy night job, feeling optimistic. Never been able to hold a job down for very long before cause I simply cannot cope being around people

Finally coming to terms with the fact that I'm a turbo autist who is going to be forever alone. I can take it. Chewing over my options. Use my new income to go full hedonist loner, or utilize my delusional tendancies to try and do something cool in life

The former involves getting high, playing MMOs, eating fried chicken and fucking 10/10 transexual hookers all day. The latter probably involves attempting to become a vigilante of some kind

What if you get a gf late in life but just pretend that you have had one in the past? All you have to do is find out how to act. Plus if you ever get another gf after her you can say you've had one and maybe you will know how to behave.

right time frame and the premise is similar, but I don't remember there being anything with a limited number of building slots, and the graphics weren't nearly as fancy as the screenshot on wikipedia. maybe I just played an early version or something.

>fucking 10/10 transexual hookers all day
Why transsexual?

I'm 26 and a KHV and I can't really find a general for this literally anywhere on any board but is anyone else here asexual? I kind of had a lightbulb goes off moment recently where I found out you can be asexual and still fap/get aroused. I've never in my entire life found straight or gay penetrative sex sexually arousing or hot. I have never fapped to PIV or anal porn period. It's all been super softcore foreplay type shit or solo women that I've only ever fapped to. Part of me thinks I was born this way and part of me thinks I just might be grossed out by that type of sex because I'm a KHV? Being asexual would certainly explain why I've never had that urge or drive to have sex period.

>anything above 7/10
>transexual hookers
pick one

I feel sick as fuck and everytime I go to the doctor they tell me nothing's wrong.
>always tired
>injure knees when trying to do beneficial activities like hiking, working out
>takes 20-30min to wipe my ass even when eating healthy
>no emotions, basically schizoid, aimless and uncaring
I really want to die

I'm quite unfathomably degenerate. One day I will be found dead, a track marked husk surrounded by sexbots and deleriants in a homemade dungeon/temple of Slaanesh

What I am is an extremely perverted misanthrope, a combination that leads to eternal conflict and mania. Somewhere along the line, I just got bored of females and I only like dickgirls now

There's also my crippling God complex, which wouldn't allow me to get with a female hooker who I know definitely isn't enjoying it. At least if I stay in shape and trim I can delude myself into thinking that maybe this fag enjoys it

I am the worst person that I know

Some of the Russian ones are 9/10, I don't know why they're the best at it

>asexual
That's not an orientation. That's fucked up hormones.

God I want to call out so bad.
I only have like 30 minutes to decide.
I feel like I always call out though so I'm always scared to do it.

So am I just broken or what? Do straight men typically find PIV sex sexually arousing and hot while still virgins? I've always been like this.

I'm not into penetrative sex at all, just foreplay

Kek.
So what is your idea of a sexual encounter?
You grope their body and then go to the bathroom and masturbate?
Legit serial killer mode.

So is it just preference? I just feel like as someone that finds the female body sexually attractive I should want to reproduce with them right?

Call out? For food?

Call out from work tonight

You better not or else Mr shrewd noseman is gonna kick your ass. You'd better not.

oh nice first time i can post on a bread like this cuz im a big boi now...

BENIS :DDD

happy belated or not belated birthday fellow "old"user

If someone like this manage to get a wife, the most people here can too if they really try!

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Penetrative sex looks awkward and annoying to me, I'm pretty lazy and I don't really care about any special "connection" we would make during it. Being directly serviced or servicing someone else is hot as fuck to me though

I actually am 29 now but I can tell you I was pretty much just like you at your age. The only thing that saved me from total isolation was the fact that I still had the same 4 good friends I did from high school and we all ended up going to the same college together. But that's just luck more than anything. We're all living in different parts of the country now though so I have no social circle anymore besides seeing one of them maybe like once a year or occasionally talking on the phone with them. I haven't taken enjoyment in anything current or popular for way more than a decade now but I don't know what to tell you except just keep trying to cultivate your expertise or appreciation of what you actually enjoy and don't feel that you should be pressured into things by other people. It's good to take chances every once in a while, but it's more important that you do things that make you feel truer to yourself even if it seems like absolutely no one else is doing those things. It's not a great answer for you really, but there it is.

Part of me thinks maybe putting labels on what gets your rocks off is pointless and we're all different with unique preferences. I just feel like enjoying penetrative sex is something that should be hardwired into most guys but maybe some of us just don't like it and that's okay? The older I get the more I realize about myself but all it does is make me more confused and lost.

he actually goes outside the house and talks to people
i don't
that is why he got a wife and i never will
>ending it before 30

Genetic records show that the majority of men who have ever existed have not reproduced. Maybe it's something we're not all hardwired to do

join a dnd club( or whatever club that shares your interests or hobbies) so you can start meeting people?

Anyone living in London with no friends want to go to a dnd/mtg/gaming meetup? I don't want to go by myself.

I mean sex in general though. Surely the want and urge to have sex is something most normal, healthy men go through right? It's a big part of most of the complaints on this board yet I've never seen the big deal about it.

400 dollar payment due in 2 weeks rent due soon too
no job
I cant handle physical work tried applying for amazon but they dont have any positions
im so fucked man im so fucked

Yeah but look at her. Disgusting land whale.

29 here

Does anyone here know ways you can begin to figure out what you want to do career wise?

I live on my own now and work part time delivering food. I started using kratom and weed again due to depression.

I feel like all these "black pills" aren't actually truth, but just the likely out that my life will take if I continue on this path.

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It sounds like your mom really cares about you, user. Get a job and become successful. You can do it, and it would be nice to do that for your mother's sake. Definitely don't hang yourself, mate. That's a total waste.

>It's a big part of most of the complaints on this board

Because sex and friends are really the only things out of reach for autistic/socially awkward men. Everything else is attainable in some form, so it only fits that loneliness and inceldom are the main things complained about

I've never understood "tfw no gf" either. Those of us who are content don't talk about it, nobody speaks up to say "everything is fine."

I wouldn't worry about it anyway. We're on Jow Forums, we're not normal, and we shouldn't worry about the expectations of normal men. I'm saying that in a factual way, not a negative one

Beggars can't be choosers and considering who what he looks like, she's not bad for him.

>We're on Jow Forums, we're not normal
lol wat. Jow Forums and the rest of Jow Forums is normal. That /r9kv1/ era is LONG gone.

It isn't, people like you just got louder. There are sub-enclaves we don't tell you about

>people like you just got louder.
Like me? I've probably been here a lot longer than you. I'm just saying that era is gone, most of you are "ironic" losers like those facebook/twitter profiles with "sad" updates about their feelings.

Yeah everyone wants a good looking spouse, but should finding someone with a similar interests and views takes the top priority? You probably won't get along with your spouse if you both are the exact opposite of each other, consider that you are going to spend the rest of your life with this person it is probably on your best interests to find someone you can get along with.

Projecting a little too hard there user.

>I've probably been here a lot longer than you
This is something that could never even be remotely backed up so I don't understand why you're mentioning it
>most of you are "ironic" losers
Have... have you read the thread? Just because normies have stolen and bastardized chan culture for over a decade doesn't mean that the "era is over."
Protip: discord is a containment platform, all the cool people are still using multiplayer notepad

>the "era is over."
Not him but it is over. We are the last ones.

>If you are a late 20s to early 30s NEET/hikki/loser/virgin who was involved with "internet culture" during the mid to late 2000s and very early 2010s then you are the last of your kind.

>You were probably in your late adolescence when the economy was shit and we had around 10 percent unemployment. This means you were unable to get work experience during a crucial period in your life. You probably had poor social skills which limited your ability to form relationships. If you were on the internet during your early teenage years you were likely considered a loser because of how not-mainstream internet usage was. You may have had trouble fitting in to a certain community as well. This is why you are here (Wizchan) as a boomer loser.

>Zoomers (mid to late adolescence) today don't have problems with unemployment because of how well the economy is doing. They have greater social skills than us because of how ubiquitous communication platforms like Twitter and Discord are. Anyone can find a community to fit into now because of how accessible everything is these days.

>It is extremely unlikely that zoomers will ever grow to become late 20s/early 30s NEET-types like most on this site are. Nobody goes from being a well adjusted person to becoming a recluse/hikki.

We're due for another recession so another generation like us will pop up eventually.

We're not referring to the same thing, I was talking about this board specifically not the generational cycle of loser males

25/30+ threads are still good, wizard threads are still good, incel/WH is still good, the only thing shitting up the board are blogposters, tfw no gf and "fembots do u like x" threads, all of which belong on /soc/

It barely matters anyway cause the board isn't fast enough for shit threads to be an issue, and any true robots will just ignore them/shitpost and ruin them. I'm sure people just make their threads here cause the board is popular enough but otherwise slow enough that their shit threads can gain traction, and the whole no dupes thing is kinda nice too. They're not trying to ruin our thing, they're just squatting

Same feelings here. I'm 31, still living with my parents and have a dead end job and no willpower to go back to college.
Money is not a problem for me, but I lost all willpower to live or to improve myself. I probably could save up enough money to build a small apartment for myself on a piece of terrain that belongs to me, or go back to college and get a degree on IT, but I dunny if I'll get a better job. Even so, what the point? I should have done all that 10 years ago as not only I was younger, healthier, not burned up, the economy was less fucked up, etc.

>We're due for another recession so another generation like us will pop up eventually.
While there might be another recession, I don't know about another generation of us popping up, there's nothing binding us anymore.

>true robots
Fuck off poser.

Scans for what??

>Fuck off poser.
I'm a 27 year old khhv, I live with my mother, I have no friends, I have never had steady employment and all I do is lie in bed all day on my toaster laptop, browsing Jow Forums, fapping and playing TF2 and Minecraft. I have never used discord or any social media. I have been doing this since 2006. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna an hero before I reach wizardom

Do I pass your loser test or was I really Chad this whole time?

If you were here from before and were 27, you wouldn't have the energy to be this aggressive.

>Fuck off poser.

>YOU wouldn't have the energy to be this aggressive.
You're legit retarded. It was you who came into the thread and started complaining and calling people out. You're either legitimately mentally retarded or female

I turn 25 this year, coming to the end of my uni degree I'll be done in April. I've kinda figured computing isn't for me and I am pretty much destined to be a wage slave for the rest of my life after that month, which is a pretty depressing thought. How can I get ready for the 25+ life of mediocrity?

Just got home from a trip to the pharmacy for xanax after work with my old ass friend. We drank a beer and smoked a joint too driving around before I dropped him off. As soon as I got home dad starts accusing me of getting high and told me to sit down for another one of these family talks about how I gotta quit everything, especially since I just got a new civil service job like 2 months ago, so I get those sweet benefits and probably shouldn't be getting high, but I just kinda shut that down Ive heard too many of them when I was younger I'm 28 now. Thing is all I do Is sit in my room all day when I'm not working I don't really have real friends that don't involve me somehow getting drugs from them, so I just end up getting high out of boredom. New job is boring as fuck too which is another reason I get high, I don't think its for me I don't know how long I can stay there, only took it cause of the benefits.

Does anyone here feel like they're just too dumb to get a real job? I've worked in fast food and retail for the past 15 years and I just feel like this is the only thing I'll be good at.

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28 kv here. just another day of spacing out and watching youtube videos. ive been really getting into fasting the last 2 months and been meditating sporadically over the last year

i hate meditating but it so greatly helps my fasting. without fasting i cant last a day, with fasting ive cleared 4 full days and almost the 5th day as well, but i broke the fast at the end of the 5th day

its suuuuuuper snowy outside, heres a picture. its so snowy i cant even leave my room to buy stuff, ill just wait until it clears up, as my own mode of transportation is walking. otherwise its pretty comfy, my 40$ amazon portable heater is doing a great job keeping my room cozy

im making some vegan hot chocolate because i bought some on impulse, and i figured now would be a great time to consume the rest of it. ive been trying to avoid all sodium and processed sugars as i can, but im just a human, and sometimes you gotta drink some hot chocolate on a cozy winter night

ill probably chain watch videos on meditation so i can step my meditation game up later on in the day. otherwise ill probably just browse imageboards like i always have

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