>>64271423

It seems that you made a new thread by mistake instead of replying to an existing thread. I don't mind and I hope the mods don't either, because that shit's a patrician fetish.

There's also a manga about it
mangakakalot.com/manga/the_world_of_moral_reversal

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It was that one, but with very crude and amateurish drawings. I'll check later on exhentai if I had it as a favourite, and I'll post the link to that mind-breaking piece of shit that the other user wanted.

>It was that one, but with very crude and amateurish drawings
Yeah, it was a hentai first that went mainstream later. Kinda like Ane Naru Mono.

They remade Amahara's reverse gender roles world?

Odd that they switched the protagonist's gender.

I hope they wake up soon. Some other thread died for a porn thread.

Amahara! Yes! That's the name I was looking for!

Look for amahara teikoku. That should be the name. I'd give you a direct link to his work; but he made too much guro, I can't stand this.

Have a lil drider.

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I want to have this drider riding on top of my head as I go through my day to day activities.

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>women have a low sex drive

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>being crass, horny all the time

Sound like real women, tbqh.

They objectively do, though. Intergender relations are what they are precisely because men desire sex about ten times more than women do (that's what having ten times more testosterone will do to ya). Personal experiences about your limp dick notwithstanding.

If anything, women have higher sex drives than men.

Women pain their faces to get sex, men don’t
Women starve themselves to get sex, men don’t
Women shave their legs and genitals to get sex, men (real ones) don’t
Women wear heels to get sex, men don’t
Women lift to get sex, men lift to get buff, Women read books about romance and fucking, men read books about adventure and brotherhood

etc.

>This entire post

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>Women starve themselves to get sex, men don’t
Says you. I'm chubby and women never miss an occasionto bring it up. I swear, some of these get aroused by bring you down.

>They objectively do, though.

You have never spoken with a woman. The female sex drive is every bit as strong as the male, it's just that until the last 30 years, women have been systematically shamed into not displaying it.

Statistically speaking they do. Just check masturbation statistics and you'll see a 65 year old man has the same sex drive as a 20 year old woman.

Women can claim to be sexual whenever they want to fish for attention but they don't get nearly the same amount of porn made to cater to them for a reason.

This is a flat out lie and it can be proven medically. There's a reason when you see Male to Female transgenders the hormones kill their sex drives nine times out of ten, but the minute Female to Male's get on testosterone their entire worldview on sex basically changes overnight.

The fuck do you think is going on? That every single country in the world banded together in a conspiracy against the vagina?

>You have never spoken with a woman
The projection is strong.

This

Female sex drive tends to be contextual (for about 90% of women), instead of reactive (for about 90% of men).

When judged by the standards of men (how much they masturbate, or how much porn they watch, for example), women seem low sex drive. They actually have a sex drive every bit as ferocious as us, it just manifests itself differently.

>contextual
>reactive
So women get aroused by foreplay, whereas men get aroused by sexy stuff?

>Mistaking the mean with the goal
Women don't do all of these things to get sex. They do all of those things to get attention and someone to support them. The fact that sex is the only thing that heterosexual men can't obtain from each other mean they use that to attract them, but it's not the goal.

If sex drive means urges that cause you to have sex at all, then no, both sexes are driven to reproduce as much.

But if by sex drive you mean the want to have as much sex as possible, then males of most species, humans not being an exception, want to spread their seed more than women want to get knocked up. The minimal commitment in reproducing for a woman is huge, while for a man it's 5 minutes and a spoonful of sperm.

That's a load and you know it. This idea that it's only low because it's low on literally every measurable scale and by anyone who's had to experience both but is actually high is fucking stupid.

I almost bought into the line myself until I started reading more and more about FTM transgenders and what hormone changes do to them. Their libido doesn't just shift. It expands. Because they're getting more of the chemical that controls libido. Because that's a thing Testosterone fucking does.

You can't postmodernist whinge away biochemistry. That shit is ironclad and everyone who thinks they can has a rude awakening after like two injections.

>So women get aroused by foreplay
Not him, but I'd say more that women get aroused by men with a lot of resources. Women schlick themselves dizzy over 50 Shades, but imagine if the protagonist was a handsome homeless person rather than a handsome millionaire. Suddenly that borderline abuse and cult-like indoctrination becomes scary rather than sexy.

>but the minute Female to Male's get on testosterone their entire worldview on sex basically changes overnight.
Can I get (a) citation(s), please?

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does that mean male seahorse want to fuck less?

ITT
youtube.com/watch?v=IdyXKJ8NcNI

Google it. This isn't some shocking new development. There's like a billion articles and tranny vlogs and forum posts about that exact thing.

You're the asshole who came out with an unsourced claim first. If you want to prove shit you cough up a source.

Really dumbed down, yeah. Female sexual arousal is very strongly linked to feeling of comfort, safety, emotional connection, etc. while male sexual arousal is more linked to direct stimuli.

There's also this whole system of sexual accelerators and brakes, how they are set up differently for men and women, and how this all interacts with what society tells women and men should behave like and what friction that creates.

That doesn't really disprove anything I'm saying. They get aroused more easily because their chemistry changes to that of a male, so when judged by male standards, they seem more thirsty or whatever.

At least, that's my initial thought, but I'll admit I have not read anything on transgender sexuality. Maybe it works by some entirely different mechanicsm.

>You're the asshole who came out with an unsourced claim first. If you want to prove shit you cough up a source.

Not him, but I'm mostly just repeating what I read in "Come As You Are". It seems to be a fairly well researched book, written by someone who applied the things in it as a successful sexual therapist.

>Maybe it works by some entirely different mechanicsm.

It does and that's the problem. Once you listen to a few accounts one thing you pick up on is that the female body isn't exactly built to be that aroused that often. By which I mean even if you build a fake dick there's no refractory period so a lot of them just kind of don't have to stop once they get going. Last time I brought this up a bunch of people mentioned that back before Craigslist Personals got their skeevy reputation it used to basically be full of FTM's who would fuck basically anybody in a lot of areas.

The entire idea that men aren't reactive is fucking absurd. If you got a dude in the mood he'd probably be ready to go pretty quickly. This is of course again why men have an absurd amount of porn marketed to them by comparison. It's literally a thing that they can't physically touch that gets them going.

Yes, the female libido has been underplayed, mainly in a period from like the 19th through 20th century in a very specific context that made it to the mainstream. You can say it's larger than expected in that it exists and a lot of people don't know what they're doing. But to claim they're even remotely on the same level is just fucking silly.

Political sensitive, poorly defined and badly measured topic that is the human sexual dimorphism has a lot of fringe scientific data from which we can cherry pick our conclusions from.
But it is generally accepted that the "sex" hormones have an impact on sexual behavior.
From an evolutionary point of view it makes sense that both females and males have a sex drive to keep reproducing.
But the low health risk and resources requirement for male reproduction incentives males to have as much sex with as many females as he can muster.
While for females it is important to have a lot of sex with a partner who is willing and capable to defend the high risk investment that is child birth and the years of raising said child.
Having random sex with stranger that will run off is not really ideal for the female.

>FTM stuff

That actually explains a lot, but also doesn't go against what I'm trying to say. I need to get into more detail to explain it, but it basically aligns perfectly with what I know, and also why it's not really relevant with the standard male/female sexuality thing.

Basically, the current science on it goes something like this:
- there's two kinds of arousal, physical and mental
- for males, physical and mental arousal is almost 1:1
- for females it's more like 3:1, or even 6:1; basically out of every 6 things that is physically arousing to a female, only 1 will put her into mental arousal
- BUT, females get aroused by a lot more things... it's just that their mind overrides the whole thing and shuts it down before it gets going

This is why foreplay and mood and all that shit is important if you want to get her in the mood. You need to eliminate all the overrules she has before she's really DTF.

Now, my theory about MtF trans is that they have the basic female structure of getting physically aroused from lots of stuff down to pat, BUT, the testosterone then overrides their sense. Hence, even more horny than men.

>The entire idea that men aren't reactive is fucking absurd.

Good thing that that's not what I wrote then!

I never said hormones are not influential to how people get aroused, only that females should be judged by a different standard than males.

Basically, if you try to judge women by how aroused they are by the things that arouse men (but gender-flipped), you are going to get distorted results.

If you can just dismiss any source as "politically charged topic", asking for citation in the first place is pointless. Caim that the author lied every time it runs contrary to your beliefs, but then what I can tell you, that'd change your mind or at least make you read their stuff?

Sex is about more than just reproduction, both biologically, socially, and psychologically.

I would like to agree with that guy in the sense that holy shit there's a lot of political slant to sexual politics. People really don't want to understand that yes, the chemicals in your body play a role and yes, some people are fundamentally different from each other.

This is why transgenders are ultimately some of the most valuable assets you can have on the discussion. You are literally jamming the other group's chemicals into them and can observe those changes in real time. You can read about and physically see not just their physical changes, but the preferences they have even within an individual change fairly quickly and at a fundamental level.

It shouldn't be a dirty concept to suggest that maybe men and women are predisposed to liking different things without some big evil global society enforcing arbitrary rules among different and conflicting belief systems. You can see a lot of that happen in kids before puberty starts. You can see it in adults on different ends of the planet with nothing in common. You can even see it in primates who will act different from each other on similar lines to how humans do.

Except the exact opposite is true for MTF. There's a direct and observable dropoff in libido after hormone therapy. Even if you observe them talking amongst themselves they don't say it's a shift or talk about mental arousal. It's just a straight downgrade in libido.

>Now, my theory about MtF trans
I meant to write FtM there, sorry!

For MtF, logically, you'd see decrease in direct arousal, since then you got the male brain with a more specific physical arousal criteria, but then compounded with female "picky-ness". So yeah.

I'd prefer a smaller Drider, but I would not object to having a qt monstergirl drider either.

Cute. Would adopt, raise, and spoil.

>The fact that sex is the only thing that heterosexual men can't obtain from each other

This fact is incorrect.

>sex is the only thing that heterosexual men can't obtain
I take "what is onanism" for 500£.

Misunderstood.

Onan's sin was not masturbation, but refusing to impregnate his brother's widow.

>what is autism

This thread must be some sort of living meme SCP, it's fucking indestructible and replicates all the time

Misunderstood.

Autism doesn't make you into Rain Man, it just makes you more focused on some areas, to the exclusion of everything else, most importantly, social skills.

Alright nerds I just googled it and I still don’t see how this relates to the original post of men needing women for sex. His sin wasn’t masturbation, it was being a greedy cunt. What am I missing?

>what is love

>Baby don't hurt me

Don't hurt me. No more.

Misunderstood.

Love is not desire and desire is not, in itself, love.

>Dont' hurt me.
>No more.

>For MtF, logically, you'd see decrease in direct arousal, since then you got the male brain
Gay people have the actual, physical brain makeup of the gender they're transitioning to. That's a big part of why trans people get gender dysphoria in the first place.

newscientist.com/article/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex/

Yes, that's the good shit m8

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I do like aggressive women.

Only patricians will understand that the drelf on the left is hotter than the drelf on the right
Misunderstood.

Hurt me more.

>Gay people
Have nothing to do with trans people, you Iranian fuck.

>OP not even about traditional games in the slightest
>half the thread talking about testosterone and transgender shit
This is the worst.

You're a navel guy aren't you?

Not primarily, but navel exposure and midriff exposure are a multiplier.

I prefer the skirt, honestly. Even if it's a micro skirt, hiding is better than showing. It leaves more to the imagination.

>Manga about girls lifting
>None of them are swole, only one of 'em is toned
Why must Japan tease my dick then let it down?

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Because fanservice >>> realism.

>those boy hips
this is just a waste of ink.

It lacks my hand around these hips as I fuck their bums.

Not him but
>exposed abs
>skirt
>tits covered with mild cleavage rather than about to pop out
The female form looks better when complimented/obfuscated by decent clothing rather than entirely exposed.

My... My kindred spirit!
Finally someone who understand that women and girls don't have to be naked to be hot!

>The female form looks better when complimented/obfuscated by decent clothing rather than entirely exposed.
Isn't it about time for prayer, Ahmed?

I can't believe that I didn't saw that one coming.

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Jeans>Hooker clothes
I'll fucking fight you.

So basically, its a less deadly MGQ?

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Who's that cutie? Why doesn't she have a nose?

Namely, high-waisted jeans that just hug the bum so, so well

>Not tight pencilskirts with black pantyhoses underneath
Plebs, all of you. I'm ashamed of sharing a board with you. Go execute lifen't.exe.

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She's the equivalent of the OT God
If you see that miniscule dot on her face, thats her 'nose'
Play MGQ, nigga

>not japanese sailor school uniforms
You're a fucking normie.

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Different moods, user. Pencil skirts are awesome for a dominatrix, but jeans are for more casual fun moods.

>He says, while claiming to enjoy one of the most normalfag shit
Loincloths, nigger.
nhentai.net/g/222549/

>Japanese highschoolers
Their bodytypes(ignoring tits) make a bit more sense in that context. Though the gyaru should be jacked with how much food she eats.

What the fuck is that, Grappler Baki?

I wish Baki had muscle gals

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My penis is a base and crude beast I will however defend the glory of arm pits

Keijo, the butt-sumo manga, has some ripped-as-fuck muscular girls, here and there, once in a while.

But you have to read Keijo to find them.

>be in a relationship
>can fuck whenever
>it's defintely super true that the woman wants a lot of sex and the man is just like "naaaah I'm not in the mood"
Lmao, are you fucking actually retarded dude?

Who are you quoting?

Well, you are pretty much describing what is happening to me.
I enjoy seducing mor than the coïtus itself, but my gf is hooked to me.
It got to the point to which she used to cry in front of me beacause she wanted to fuck, and I would rather sleep / do something else

Oh my god, that greentext is unironically my life.
My boyfriend not only has really bad ED, but is always getting hurt somehow, so both his staff and his body at large are unable to function properly.
Hell, his ED is so bad that he can't even cum from fellatio! And that's one of my specialties!
I just want a good, hard dicking, and there's this fat cock living with me, but I can't do anything with it! It's driving me crazy!

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Sauce?

Maybe it's because he took meds to cure his homosexuality.

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Thank you.

That site is an instrument of the gods

I mean as a gay man I’m sure you can find no shortage of other homosex to homosex