Why are so many young men drawn to fascism?

Why are so many young men drawn to fascism?

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Thought that was Tony's nephew from the Sopranos, now I am disappointed.

The idea of inherent worth and respect because or belonging to a system of power or a superior race. It removes the anxieties of inferiority and the necessities of success for value - they are assumed. This can be particularly appealing to those who feel they've been unjustly estranged from their own society.

they didn't listen in history class

The left became neoliberal and allied with trannies, faggots, niggers, and women

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>Why are so many young men drawn to fascism?

Speaking as somebody who literally despises fascists to the point that I feel physical pain while listening to them talk, it's pretty easy to understand. Fascism basically is the ideology of masculine energy. It embraces 'manly' things more openly and consistently than any other ideology by far, even moreso than Islamism. Ultimately if you try to bring hierarchy and war and conquest into liberalism or social democracy, you're artificially 'grafting in' something that runs totally contrary to the principles of the ideology. Fascism openly embraces these 'manly' things which no other modern ideology really does, so of course It's going to have some vague appeal to any red-blooded man.

With that said, fascism is utterly infuriating in how it makes everything about machismo and subtly disparages facts and logic as some kind of weakness, and if you're a half intelligent person you'll realize that fascism's effectiveness in capturing the 'masculine spirit' just proves that masculinity without a feminine counterpart is completely untenable.

what ideology do you personally prefer over fascism?

(((Egalitarianism))) obviously.

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This basically. Youth is the time when your childish worldview of ignorance and bliss slowly but surely gets replaced by the harsh reality of the world. How many of us did not think of ourselves as special and destined for something great as a child? Now when you reach adulthood and you realize that you're really nothing special, some people dont handle that very well. When that is coupled with a feeling of being alienated from ones society, it becomes easy to blame everything on some boogeyman for "making" things bad, while in reality it was always like that, you just only learned of it now.

Collectivism in general is very comforting as well. It allows you to shift personal responsibility and quality onto the collective. Now you dont need to be good and capable anymore, as long as the collective is, you can feel like you are as well. Its not hard to see why that attracts certain people.

I see fascism as self-destructive thing and still want it. I don't mind that because I hate how fucking lame everything is nowdays. Fuck oversocialized people and fuck society. Also most men are fucked in the current year so it's going to lead to violent solution because of reproduction drive is dominant.

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Weak-willed failures want to feel special too.

Having an ideology is retarded, smart people evaluate individual issues and decide on appropriate solutions. You can have a free market solution to one issue and a socialist solution to another, if you think you need 'socialist everything' or 'market everything' you're a sped and should recognise that your role in the world is to learn not to influence.

Funny how all races and sexes and creeds are encouraged that unity necessarily and logically entails empowerment via strength by numbers, whereas white males are actively discouraged from tribalist thinking and forced into the individualist-collectivist false dichotomy. Really activates ones almonds.

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since time immemorial, young men have always thought they were smarter than their peers, always want to be edgy, always are desperate for validation and always think they've figured all the world's complexities out. the reality is they just haven't developed a good way to discerning truth from fiction because of Dunning Kruger.

when you know so little, of course you'll latch onto anything that seems epic and gives you self worth.

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You need to realize the current state of things has nothing to do with ideology and everything to do with technology. Large masses of people were made useless by technology. There is nothing society can do with them but to give them something to hold themselves busy with. Im not 100% sure on this but the way it looks it seems to me today that most people today are more of a drain on society than a benefit. Or they exist simply to consume so that some rich asshole can have an excuse to play businessman, but the economy of useless that results from that is exactly what it says, its a useless feedback loop that does not really add to society and if anything is a drain on resources.

We are experiencing a major shift in history. Technology has changed everything and will change even more. The way its looking now, even more people will become useless and the people that are useless today will become even more useless. Its going to become a major problem and i dont know how society will deal with it

None of the posts you replied to says you cant be a fascist, they just explain why someone would gravitate towards such beliefs

There has to be a tipping point thought, that's when men have to collectively come together or cease existing. I fucking hate individualists so much because it's cancer on the mind and it's only strong in democrazy until it collapses.

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>economy of useless
uselessness*

Complexity of society, technology and the world increases at an exponential rate.
Intelligence of people is mostly stagnant or will slightly decrease in coming years.

This will create HUGE issues in the future. There are only two solutions in my mind:
1. Authotarianist control of all technological advancement and mass genocide
2. Genetic engineering smarter children so each generation's intelligence increases dramatically.

you are a small and afraid boy who is incapable of learning humility or understanding the world beyond your asinine preconceived notions. Instead, you gravitate towards the backwards and discredited ideologies that killed tens of millions of people and will do it again if it is allowed.

I genuinely hope you open a book and see the error of your ways. The ideology you mindlessly preach is seductive to the uneducated, but we will have no choice to put you down like the rabid dog you are if this continues.

OY VEY

YOUR IDEOLOGY IS DISCREDITED BY ACADEMICS.

>killing is bad muh morals sniff waa mommy
fuck off we're absolute animals and being pacifist only benefits w*men and weak men

>or cease existing.
Thats whats more likely to happen. You cannot really stop technological advancement. I guess you can delay it, maybe even significantly, but even that is looking to be off the table today. I mean why you say come together, i assume you mean to fight. The problem is, the warfare technologies they are developing today are insane. Althought there is a big discussion on banning autonomous weapons, i have ZERO doubt that its already in developement with very likely prototypes already existing not just in DARPA labs but also private military technology companies. I mean they have that boston bot, whos stopping anyone from slapping a machinegun on it.

Even war will become impossible if not really hard soon.

Because those fucking kikes have us by the balls and we've had enough of it?

Part contrarianism, part the appeal of nationalist collectivism, partly a power thing. Mostly nazi fetishisation

Maybe. I've been thinking that we would be replaced by robots anyway if we wanted to leave earth in the future. Or maybe we just fuck earth enough to rock us back in time so we don't have to worry about this gay shit.

But killing people is wrong and you just need to be peaceful and complacent and consume more and never get angry or we put you on medication for being SICK.
Oh btw let's go firebomb innocent families in their homes yo win the war.
Oh btw the end never justifies the means.

>Intelligence of people is mostly stagnant
not who you are talking to, but this isn't true, intelligence has been increasing generally and globally for the last century due to the flynn effect, it isn't simply stagnant and this isn't in line with data.
>or will slightly decrease in coming years.
there is a proposed reversed flynn effect but it has only been demonstrated in the UK starting in the 1990s, post Thatcherism, most presumed explanations is a decrease in quality public education and decreased government spending.

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Nice disingenuousness. The posts I replied to strongly imply that tribalism is a cope and explicitly argue that the only reason anyone would accept tribalist thinking is if they were weak or insecure, which is really fucking cute considering the exact opposite is argued by individuals in positions of established legal and social authority.

Nothing is disingenuous about it. You can choose to be a fascist if you want, no one is telling you not to. That doesnt change the facts on it though

>reversed flynn effect
If you had a population that consisted entirely of one group with an average IQ of 100, and now have a population of two groups where one has an average IQ of 100 and one has an average IQ of 85, what will have happened to the overall average IQ of that population?
It's very basic math.

Hey props to this user, this right here is the most reasonable, well put post I've seen on this board in at least a month. Very well said.

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you're arguing with some reddit pseud, look at the post structure. don't bother.

Facts or being right doesn't matter in slightlest unless you're actually ready to impose your will on the people. Your shit is just weak demoralization that will be met with quick death once things go back to their natural state.

because the reversed flynn effect hasn't been so clearly demonstrated in other countries and European countries except Norway where it's been demonstrated that military men's IQ has been stagnant since in the 70s, but they don't have a bearing on general population. Maybe what you're saying is true, yes, but that's a huge methodology error which I'm sure they took into account when calculating total numbers.

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Oh they took it into account alright. The problem is that 99% of people in academia would be terrified to publish results saying IQs are dropping because of immigration.

I know, what can I say, I'm a sucker for retard bait

The problem with 2 is that it will make life even more absurd.

Traditionally our sense of self and the meaning of our lifes has been shaped by our capabilities, talents and achievements. Those things though arise from genetics for the most part. If we are able to engineer anyone to become superhuman, then life will become even more meaningless.

As much as i think this picture is not really to be taken seriously, it seems that its going to go one of the two ways as stated there.

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That is absolutely correct and my exact point. These are the facts, but none of that has to matter. If you want to be a fascist despite knowing the truth on it, then you go do that. What matters though is that you do it knowing what you are getting into. You may not think that it matters, but its a BIG difference.

You dont understand. The Gene's responsible for intelligence are decreasing.

Peoples intelligence is increasing but primarily due to increases in lifestyle. This will quickly hit a cap as you can see in developed nations where the intelligence of university students is slightly decreasing. Yes, the poor are now eating better and its increasing the average but we are looking at a future where white and Asian populations stagnate or decline while Africans boom. You'll see the average intelligence of these people increase as living standards get better but they fundamentally are not carriers of genes responsible for higher intelligence.

REGARDLESS, average intelligence could double in 50 years but technological and societal complexity may increase at far greater factors every single year. I'm talking about every paper published, every invention, sparking at least two more papers or technologies. This means society at a whole is becoming complex at exponential rates while human intelligence simply cannot keep up.

You just need to take one step further and admit everything is predetermined.

>REGARDLESS, average intelligence could double in 50 years but technological and societal complexity may increase at far greater factors every single year. I'm talking about every paper published, every invention, sparking at least two more papers or technologies. This means society at a whole is becoming complex at exponential rates while human intelligence simply cannot keep up.
You can actually see the effects of this today in your daily life. For example the "retarded parents" meme is caused by this. The reason why your parents seem like retards to you is because they were born in a time when the world was significantly less complex. They developed and adapted to those circumstances, the human brain is adaptive so their brain is physically really ment to be in such a complex society nor adapted well to it. Neither are our brains, thats why you have such high rates of depression, stress and burnouts these days, but we at least have the advantage of growing up in this complex world and having brains better adapted to it.

>really ment
not really*

>where the intelligence of university students is slightly decreasing
I haven't seen a study which demonstrates this so can you provide it.
>You'll see the average intelligence of these people increase as living standards get better but they fundamentally are not carriers of genes responsible for higher intelligence.
you are basically saying "while it has been demonstrated that intelligence is exponentially increasing and hasn't slowed down in Africa, there's a cap and it'll stop like um sometime, just trust me". Can you please demonstrate that there's a cap and what genes they have which will cause that?
>This means society at a whole is becoming complex at exponential rates while human intelligence simply cannot keep up.
but where does this come from I don't understand, why are things becoming too complex? we seem to be doing fine, zoomers are immeasurably technologically literate and actually are by intelligence, one of the most well learned generations in history. do you have a study that demonstrates technology will be "too complex" for humans to handle?

is this all just conjecture?

Science since its conception has been stripping away every single spiritual and emotional value people hold dear. This is what science does. Science is and will forever be deeply offensive for this very reason.

It is absolutely inevitable that humans will become understood as objects just like everything else material.

Absolutely. People grow up with analog buttons so now they press hard against a capacitive touch screen and break it. The percentage of the population that can operate in the workforce is decreasing because jobs are becoming more complex and menial tasks are increasingly performed by robots.

This phenomenon is exacerbated by progress every year. It's going to get worse and worse. This will be the cause of the next war.

Fascism attracts whiny, scared beta wimplets which a lot of young men are especially these days

>Fascism attracts whiny, scared beta wimplets which a lot of young men are especially these days
t. basedboy supreme

>I don't want to discuss things I don't like please shut up

Remember the Founding Fathers who were Superchads were fighting against tyranny and fascism from the B(eta)ritish soiboys. Libertarianism will forever be the Chad ideology and Fascism will forever be the beta ideology.

It's okay, you won't stay libertarian for long. You all end up on the alt-right sooner or later.

They still needed the beta males to do the fighting for them. Libertarianism needs constant immigration to stay healthy or it will be conquered.

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Im not a libertarian though, im just saying that Fascism is an inherently beta ideology and Libertarianism is an inherently Chad ideology.

Do you even know your history? George Washingtons army consisted wholly of Chads like himself. These guys literally were a fucking rabble scrambled together from whoever and whatever they could get their hands on and defeated the LARGEST SUPERPOWER THE WORLD HAS SEEN. Beta males can only fight when a massive government funded war machine is supplying them with fresh tendies and choccy milk every week.

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This video fucking gapes your arguement

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Every fascist I know lifts.

Few people are actually "drawn to fascism".
What you are seeing is that the left is completely unwilling to discuss reality, and so people more resistant to leftist propaganda are withdrawing further and further away from them.
Until the left accepts the facts that niggers are dumb and Jews run the world, there's simply no use discussing any of their ideas. It's all fantasy.

No. Fascism attracts the last few good ones left.

All of the low test feminine ones go with whatever school and the media teaches them.

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No army consists of 100% chads. They are leaders and not in position to take orders. Nice fantasy thought.

FUCKING DELETE THIS

The founding fathers were anti-racists who wanted every woman and black to vote!!!

Humans do have inherent worth from their own perspective, so do animals and anything else that lives and reproduces.

The 14 words are natural law.

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>the Jow Forums user has interracial cuckold porn on his hard drive
Imagine my shock

Nah, they were the kids that knew way more then everybody else in history class.

>The percentage of the population that can operate in the workforce is decreasing because jobs are becoming more complex and menial tasks are increasingly performed by robots.
This is what is causing neets btw.

>This will be the cause of the next war.
Civil war. Wars between countries (excluding total war like WW2) are clean relative to civil wars. Civil wars mean full breakdown of society, the worst wars are always civil wars.

People are predicting a Second American Civil War.

Though im not sure if it will be as glorious as people are hoping. The new weapons technology that is being developed is so powerful that if a "civil war" starts it will just be an opportunity for the rich to now LITERALLY enslave everyone else with private robot armies.

Men should be men. Women should be women. Society must be led by men. Society must be maintained by women.

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>oy vey goyim would you like to be a part of the red team or the blue team
>the red team want perpetual war with shithole middle eastern countries and for all of your tax money to go to dumb bureaucratic bullshit.
>the blue team also wants perpetual war but they want your money to go to those who have chewed you up and spit you out your entire life, they also support killing babies.
>or you can go for the mythical third position known as the Marxist team, these people vehemently despise religion, responsibility, honor, tradition, and liberty
>WAIT WTF GOY WHY ARE YOU TURNING FASCIST WE GAVE YOU SO MANY GOOD DEMOCRATIC OPTIONS!

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What argument does it exactly "gape"? Because i dont remember saying the Founding Fathers were not racist.

Based Bloomer
We are all going to make it.

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Radical individualists are the most dangerous kind of useful idiots. You are not stupid, but your ideas are rootless and suicidal.

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Not all Chads have to be leaders of the Chads. Thats a title reserved for the SuperUltraChads. There is a hierarchy of Chads as well.

Because weak young men like to externalize rather than internalize their failures and fascism, wherever it is practiced by whatever group, identifies a common scapegoat for the demographic its targeting for recruitment to blame for their personal failures.

Being an old boomer doesn't mean your wise.

This is undeniable

I was a libertarian until I realized they would never leave me alone

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Its fucking kikes man.

Uncle ted was based and redpilled, but he didnt really understand the people in charge.

>you have to either be a radical individualist or a radical collectivist

When you're older and all growed up you'll understand. Good luck as you age.

If you wanna kill your brother for speaking the observable truth, then have at it.

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Fascist here, was literally never in a history class that i was not the most well informed kid in. I am actually going to University for Honours Arts history this fall.

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Jews too

Read the post again. Its not caused by a magical boogeyman with godlike powers, nor an ideology. Its technology. I wasnt even thinking of Ted when coming to that conclusion. Its what anyone who looks at the issues of today with a critical eye will arrive at.

I don't like the fact that his head leaves the panel, it makes it look like a shitty edit

The whole point is that no matter how chad someone is they will get conquered by the combination of chad+beta if the former rejects it's betas. The whole basis for civilization is literally built on beta male energy, otherwise we would still be living in mudhuts. You can't alpha your shit out of the way of angry beta males sent by the enemy when your own betas gave up long ago.

>only benefits [...] weak men
So all men, for the past several hundred years.

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Give me a little tidbit of wisdom to help me along the way. Show me that time has given you anything at all besides an extinguished spirit and grey hair.

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>You can't alpha your shit out of the way of angry beta males sent by the enemy
Thats literally what the founding fathers did and what i just explained to you lol.

Nerves probably play a bigger part than pure strenght nowdays.

You didn't explain shit, you assume everyone is alpha as fuck because you have some kind of power fantasy in your head. Why is USA so fucked if it was only found by the alpha males then? Did their balls drop off or what? Why did they let millions of immigrants in the last century? Bunch of cucks who want their women to get fucked by them huh? Fuck off you dumb fucking nigger.

Another campaign of NWO to normalize the rubes' own genocide as living conditions deteriorate over the next few decades.

>why are americans today retarded if the founding fathers who lived 250 years ago were chads
Are you literally retarded?

Are you? Why would these chads let subhumans take over? Why did they lose the evolutionary battle? Huh? What's up nigger?

>why are people who lived 250 years ago not doing anything about what is going on today

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>These men bred literal subhumans
wow such chads hehe..

>thinking that individual genes can survive 250 years of genetic recombination

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>letting weak genes take over your """chad"" genes
hahahahaha

>how society will deal with it
As far as I know, it won't be able to deal with it. Technology will eventually cause industrial society to collapse.

Not the same user who you're asking to, but I can tell you that most of these predictions are statements made from a Neo-Luddite perspective. The Neo-Luddites consider that current civilization trends (especially the ones regarding technology and/or ecological impact of humankind) is unsustainable.

>It is absolutely inevitable that humans will become understood as objects just like everything else material.
This. The human condition is going to be diluted as we approach to the already-planned future of virtual reality that is coming upon us in the next decades. Reality will finally become obsolete following the pathlines of the great artificers of madness.

>nigger doesnt know what genetic recombination is

>Genetic recombination (also known as genetic reshuffling) is the exchange of genetic material between different organisms which leads to production of offspring with combinations of traits that differ from those found in either parent.
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