Being a conservative is stupid and it literally never works. The world is always changing...

>the republicans abolished slavery lmao XD
>democraps wanted to keep slavery libtards BTFO!!! XDDD
Can you faggots stop with this meaningless talking point? Democrat and republican are nothing but titles. Democrats used to be the conservatives while republicans were the liberals. Then it switched. Big fuckin whoop. How does that disprove anything in the op? And being a liberal and democrat aren't synonymous either. Hillary Clinton is a Democrat but is conservative-light/centrist. Bernie Sanders isn't a Democrat but he's a liberal.

Right, they're two sides to the same coin, (((their))) coin.

Agreed, conservatism doesn't work. Traditionalism does though. But could you please take that kind of discussion to the shithole called Jow Forums?

Clinton is a liberal, she worships the free market and panders to the military industrial complex.
Sanders is not a liberal, because he does not suck off the free market nearly as much as everyone else.

>he thinks conservative means "keeping things the way they are"
Fucking retard, it refers to your position on how big you want government to be. Conservative = small government, liberal = big government. Just look at anywhere there's a "conservative vs liberal" viewpoint, take economics for example. Conservative view of economics: government should stay out of economy and let free market do it's job. Liberal view of economics: government should fund programs to stimulate the economy and regulate industries.
Thinking conservative means "keep things like the good 'ol days" is just some dumb headcanon that people make up, and the fact that you believe that's what it means shows that you've literally never received any education on politics ever.

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>Conservative = small government, liberal = big government
>Conservative view of economics: government should stay out of economy and let free market do it's job. Liberal view of economics: government should fund programs to stimulate the economy and regulate industries.
You got it backwards.
Liberals worship the free market, while conservatives believe in interventionism.
The core point of liberalism is that the government exists only for the express purpose of protecting the freedom of the citizens and the property of the citizens. The essential difference between liberals and ancaps is that liberals like roads.

That may be the literal meaning, but you and I both know that most conservative ideas have more with resisting change and Jesus than they do with having a small government. The small government thing only comes into play when conservatives want the right to keep living in the past.

the problem with your logic here is that you're attacking the word "conservative" rather than what people really mean by it when they describe their political positions that way. it's especially apparent in this passage:
>A conservative is nothing but a person who wants shit to be the way it was when they were growing up.

I'm predominantly right-wing in my views and very much detached from any "progress" delusions the so-called left cooks up constantly. And the last thing I want is for things to stay or become the way they were when I was a kid! Does this make me not "conservative"?

I was a kid in the 90s and the 90s were a degenerate nightmare era. Things didn't get much better after but all the bad stuff of today was already around in some way then. European nations had already started taking in foreigners from shitholes under weird pretenses, the Euro was already being prepared and my country was already under foreign control for half a century. Why would I want to conserve any of that?

So am I conservative or not? Nothing you said applies to me. I believe slavery was a mistake only because it brought niggers to the US and the US would be better off now if they hadn't brought any niggers over. I believe older conservatives were correct trying to prevent faggots from getting married (but wrong to allow no-fault divorce) and I'm not sold on current climate "science". So I guess I'm not a conservative even though I'm exactly the type you'd want to antagonize with a post like this. You missed the mark.

Conservativism is relative, you absolute genius. If the whole conservative party along with every conservative in the US collectively decided they'd abandon everything they stand for and become bleeding-heart liberals, the center line would simply readjust and another group would take up being the relative conservatives. But the entire conservative vs. liberal split in the US is nothing but a distraction, you're a fucking retard if you think it's genuine. Both sides are constantly riled up against each other over fictional and mundane shit, you, too, seriously list gay marriage as a social issue worth mentioning.

>list gay marriage as a social issue worth mentioning
I listed gay marriage because it was a huge issue a few years ago but wont even be up for debate a few years from now. The same way slavery was a huge issue back in the late 1800s but you would genuinely offend people if you asked them if they thought slavery was ok.

>very few conservatives today will agree that slavery of particular races should be made legal
>trying to prevent gays from getting married or denying climate change
few will admit it publicly, but lots of them wouldn't mind it, as long as they're not the ones being persecuted or the generation that's going to have to pay the bill
conservatives in general severely lack empathy and most get a kick out of ruining other people's lives, even when it goes against common sense and their entire ideals of fetishized "safety" (see: the traditional carceral system that spits out people more violent and prone to crime than when they first got in, and actively prevents reinsertion into society)

Sorry bud but you best get ready for bed, kiss your mommy goodnight for me.

this isnt Jow Forums you fucking idiots.