Vegans are right

I can hear some of the ethical arguments against eating mammals and shit, but fish? No fish has done anything intelligent ever. I will never feel bad for eating those brain-dead scaly things. Only issue is overfishing and killing other more intelligent animals.

actually you can thank capitalism for the meat industry resisting lab grown meat.

>No fish has done anything intelligent ever
That's false though. They are intelligent creatures. Compare a fish to a sponge or jelly fish which literally do not have the capacity for intelligence.

Imagine if our taxes actually went to improving our lives and the world we live in.
But that's gommunist.

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Farmed catfish produces one of the highest amounts of suffering of all animal foods, and milk one of the lowest.

reducing-suffering.org/how-much-direct-suffering-is-caused-by-various-animal-foods/

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we already do have it, it's called eating bugs but normalfags think its disgusting
HAHA WOW I WOULD NEVER EAT A BUG I WOULD RATHER CHOKE ON FUCKING TOXIC AIR AND DIE
wow i hate humans

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if you live in a Western country, buy your food from a grocery store, use modern technology, etc, your lifestyle is built on the death and suffering of both humans and animals, regardless of what you eat. you want to live an "ethical" life? get the fuck off here, move to the wilderness, grow/forage/hunt your own food. if anyone's the hypocrite here, it's you

All a fish is EVER gonna do is swim around and die. At least pigs and cows and chickens can interact with humans, be pets, that kind of thing. There's a higher level of cognition. I refuse to feel bad eating what is essentially just a perfect source of meat that will only swim around then die if I don't eat it.

Plants are also alive and sentient you fucking hypocritical bitch
>B-but it doesn't cry or make sad faces
end your life immediately

They should make a meat license where you have to personally kill a cow a month to be allowed beef

communist is the same evil, embrace fascism

JUST EAT BUGS YOU STUPID FUCKS ITS SAVES THE PLANET, PROVIDES U WITH THE SAME SHIT, AND TASTES FUCKIN AWESOME

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Unless I'm the dictator of a fascist state, why the fuck would I ever want to be a fascist? This is Jow Forums not Jow Forums. I already don't want to conform to normalfag behavior, all fascism would do is force me to or die/go to prison.

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>thinking I need an ethical justification to eat animals or to do anything for that matter
Imagine being this much of a spooked cunt

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can you describe the taste pls

But I do eat bugs. Meat is just more available to me.

its kind of a nutty flavor, but they also make cricket powders which you can put in other things, it gives it the same kind of nutty taste
i've also heard it taste like chicken

you have communism and fascism completely backwards. you must be a nonwhite looking for a free ride.

god bless you sir, please spread the word

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>eat bugs

Everything in my genetics revolts at the idea.

haha wow ok well im sure your proud, upstanding genetics is going to enjoy skin cancer from the fucking atmosphere melting away you literal retarded ape

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That's on you for being a moralfag who fights against genetic engineering and cloning. We could easily be growing steaks in factories without a single animal ever being necessary but moral always get in the way. I'm not gonna eat bugs because you're a coward.

Plants don't have nervous centers dumbass
They're structurally incapable of consciousness

>haha vegans looks like sickly faggots, they look like they're dying from aids LOL

okay okay, calm down there boogie2988

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I eat meat. I would not want to slaughter an innocent animal, nor witness an innocent animal be slaughtered. I am a human being, with conflicting emotions and morals.

uhh bigoted much?

Imagine having the audacity of being Jewish in 1940s Germany. Clearly not the state deciding you aren't thinking correctly and sending you to the gula-I mean concentration camps.

Me? Moralfag? Buddy idk when I said anything about morals, if that were easily possible I would be fighting for it too, HELL I would PREFER it. But rn bugs are more efficient, in the same way that nuclear power is more efficient. I'm sure in the future that'll be a viable option, but right now we have to do some drastic shit. And you're gonna have to eat crickets.

Remainder that only normies and NPCs eat meat and dairy products

I guess you hate lobsters then.

>brainlet herbivore think's applying a false dilemma is witty enough to post twice

>not joining the """"""fat"""""" chick masterrace

oof, at least you can tell your malnourished spawn they were ethically produced

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Plants get actively afraid when they can hear a bug eating leaves.

yeah but meats tasty af

i want everyone to live the best life they can, meat is essential for this.

We literally grow plants and give them a full life cycle free of pain and replant their offspring then we eat them. Compare that to the animal industry bruh just stfu and eat McDonalds you are literally hopeless idiot

Increased heart disease is a better life bruh stfu idiot

Can't we just kill like 90% of the population so the rest don't have to eat bugs?
It's not like that 90% is doing much

>dying of a heart attack at 70 is worse than living life as a mentally ill skelly

haha

just eat them man, whole roasted crickets taste like chicken and are raised in canada by white people

We are gonna have to kill 90% of the population now, or suffer widespead plague because of accidents at the insect farms. So just kill the people now. Kill me too, I don't care.

Stfu you depressed faggot your life sucks and want others to relish and enjoyment of a short shit life fuck off cunt

You're a fucking gigantic retard and a liar.

>killing whites
horrible man, maybe if u said all blacks i would be with you

Yeah, white people are fucking retards too. 90% across the board, infinity gauntlet style

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you are jealous because we CAN enjoy our lives while you struggle to get out of bed because of your trash diet killing your soul.

meat is essential to live an optimal life, this is a fact.

I would put money on the chance that someone who complains this fucking much and spends so much time bragging and moralfagging is a complete mental train wreck. You are a narcissist, those people are never happy, the ONLY thing you do correctly is not eat meat. Everything else is shit. Get a personality.

if you dont eat or kill them their population will grow so much they will have no food to eat and therefore end up extinct
Basically we must kill them or they die

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I said 90% for a reason
this cuts out all the non-whites and a decent amount of useless whites

Vegans are just faggy pussies that project their deep seated fear of their own mortality as an empathy toward animals. Its the same principle a lot of religions use to combat existential crisis of their NPCs.

Prove me wrong

what the fuck are you talking about retard, i do eat meat.

I don't need an ethical justification, just a logical one.

The logic is that even your house pet(s) WILL eat you to stay alive.

And don't tell me they'll wait to last second of NEEDING to because no they fucking won't. No animal is going to wait until they basically don't have the energy to eat you, to eat you and if you think they will then I'm left to assume your post was your caretaker accidentally making a legible post while wiping the drool from the keyboard in front of you.

More like if we don't consider them useful, we'll take the land from them and drive them to near if not complete extinction like many other non-food animals.

To demand we stop farming them is to demand the majority of people stop caring about them entirely since the land etc. would be more useful for non-farm locations/activities.

Veggieniggers need to take pills in order to avoid dying of malnutrition because they refuse to eat a fucking burger.

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Sometimes the nigga just want a burger

Veganism is a Western middle class conceit and a racist one to boot.

You can't prove me wrong and I don't give a fuck if you try.

>racist
Fuck off dumbass

do you know how much vegan food you need to eat to get the right amount of protein for a person

well In MO we raise cattle on fields and then ship em off to auction then the slaughter house. my family has about 350 heads right now. most wild animals die horribe deaths from starvation or freezing or being fucking eaten alive but our cows live happy lives for a few years then have a quick death, so I'd say it's way less cruel than nature. if you have that big of a deal with mass livestock though, just go hunting. get off your ass and prevent an animal from dieing a worse death than you can provide it.

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a can of beans will suffice. theres all kinds of flavors and they come in salted and unsalted

theres also beans in tomatoes paste if ur lazy, but those have very high sodium

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I always find it weird when someone has such strong morals about certain things yet think nothing of eating meat.

>npc likes communism
go figure

What made you think I like communism.

assuming you were from the reply chain?

Yeah but I don't give a shit and meat tastes good so I'm gonna eat

I was being sarcastic when I said taxes were communist. Taxes are not communist. You'd have to be an omega bootlicker to want a state that REQUIRES taxes to function to not use those taxes to improve you and everyone else's life in some way.

why should i prove you wrong? prove yourself wrong

According to scientists, plants can feel pain just like animals do when the die or uprooted from the ground. Pretty fucking hypocritical if you ask me. Also if you eat food that was grown by animal products, you're still not a vegan. i.e. manure, or related substances including pesticides.

Manure is still used because it's cheaper than trying to dispose of it if you own cattle. The bulk of fertilization is done by artificially enhanced fertilizers created using the Haber Process. You and I would not be alive if it were not for that.
Fun Fact: Fritz Haber (the inventor of the Haber Process) was a Jew, and he also worked on the invention of Zyklon B.

This world will burn before I eat bugs.

never said i was a good person sweetheart

Lmao, you're a fucking moron man. Not to mention pathetic, you won't eat a certain type of protein because it "grosses you out" or "is only for animals". You know pigs wallow in their own shit for most of their lives right? Pigs are fucking disgusting mate, but I bet you love yourself a good piece of pork.
If you're a vegetarian you're cool though, but if you eat meat and you won't eat bugs or dog meat you're an idiot, and you should step off your high horse.

I'll only step off my high horse once I run out of meat and have to eat it.

food we it such as pigs(three different ones) get cleaned before we eat it and has to meet heath regulations. so its not really disquieting

i also love how vegans and people like that claim "its cruel to eat animals" yet its human fucking nature and the its cruel to animals do it too

I don't give a shit if you become a vegetarian, fuck vegans, fuckin faggots man.
But if you eat meat you need to seriously cut down and supplement your shit with some delicious whole roasted crickets (which are subject to the same health regulations as meat).

What is the best way to prepare crickets? I will eat them fried with cayenne pepper because I don't want to actually taste it. I already had frog legs, and that was not good.

im not gonna eat crickets tho because they dont appeal to me, i dont eat steak for the same reason

go eat your own shit then. you weren't done absorbing nutrients before you squeezed out that precious protein log.

They actually kinda do appeal to me, maybe they are like little soft shell crabs.

Also how do vegans get pissed off about people wanting to eat fish but not bugs? I happen to have somewhat of an interest in entomology, are their lives worth less because they live for a month or less? Are they not in the animal kingdom? What gives?

I'm actually not entirely sure. But there is cricket powder you can buy if you're very reluctant about eating it.

Lmao, imagine thinking that eating crickets, which is actually eaten in many parts of the world as a regular food, is the same as eating shit. And its not about preserving precious protein, it's about not killing the planet and having a future.

They're crunchy like potato chips.

I'm not a vegan I love killing animals, I just also want humanity to not kill itself so there can be cyborgs and shit.
I imagine most vegans are such normalfags that they never think about eating bugs, but they probably don't like it either.

They don't have a swampy or fishy flavor? Do they taste like dirt? Or actual potato chips?

Seriously those giant fried locusts in the chinatown market look good.

>I just also want humanity to not kill itself
Well you're no fun.

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i mean if they appeal to you by all means, i dont give a shit

if you like it who am i to say thats wrong if its affects no one else

There are nastier looking bugs, that's all I mean. I wouldn't eat a stinkbug. I've seen what happens when people do that.

Whoops OP, you fucked up. Calling us pigs - you done put all your cards on the table. You almost had me though, next time try not to use an animal slur when referring to us, stick with the basics, y'know?

They have a nutty, chicken like taste. Even if you don't like the taste you can use cricket powder in or on other foods to give them a protein boost.

Who said there was an ethical justification? Animals have no rights according to society. Pet owners frequently put their pets down rather than pay for vet bills, and in what society would I get the death penalty for biting a guy on the hand? You presuppose that there's an argument in the first place, OP, and that is why you're wrong. Watch Destiny debate VeganGains. He argues effectively that animals and humans do not share a social contract. And why should we? Does a cougar respect your right to life? If an animal would eat me, then the Golden Rule states that the animal doesn't care if I eat it.

If it's mild I can just throw pepper and beer batter on that sumbitch. As long as they don't taste like frog meat, dirt, or shit, then I can work with it.

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