**Prove you’re not bias**

Unless you're trying to lose weightthere's no real reason to be in ketosis. But I do believe you should generally avoid eating a lot of carbs. Just better for you.

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man was scientifically programmed to be a frugivore.

debate me

i don't like it

what fruits were around in the winter

How can you even like that type of ass ? It's flat as fuck, nothing to eat, nothing to put your cock in.

how about there was NO WINTER babyyyyy

lmao

Winter is a social construct made up by the patriarchy in order to control women.

there are plenty of fruits in the stores in the winther

carbs in snow

brb making green smoothie

that doesnt answer my question

plenty means AY LOT

Not optimal for peak performance in gym, well atleast not the standard keto approach.

You have to know how to cook well to enjoy it

This. Too many retards that give it a bad rep by pumping their bodies full of bacon nitrates

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expensive
much cheaper to get your daily calorie intake when adding bread/rice/potato to dishes

I-imagine pinning her down and ripping her pants open to sniff her butt haha

it just werks

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Imagine raping her after the sniff while using that smith machine to pin her down haha. Wouldn't that be messed up?

You can't say semen is keto to keto thots.
They don't buy it. Well the hot one's don't.

>Wouldn't that be messed up?
I guess so you fuckin dweeb.

My gf can’t do stuff like this because she gets butthole hair. What can she do about this? She says she has to wait for it to grow out to wax it.

Let her get that shit lazered. Takes a few months to become permenant but after that no more hair.

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based

it doesnt work for muscle growth in natties
high protein works, but true keto diets do not

>not getting a test boost from seeing the hair
ok söyboy

freaking owned him

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It's plainly wrong

youtube.com/watch?v=O-HQoa0tmLA

>not living in a place where fruits grow year-round
>alternatively not migrating to warmer climate when winter comes
Never gonna make it.

Apples, literally the most common fruit. Also what is drying, I can only wonder.

It's a social suicide. You won't even be able to have your own family eat with you.

>cute tight asses>nigger baboon masses of fat that get smelly mid-sex
thou can non proveth untrue

based jojo poster

Based nature.

You know that the warm climate gave blacks low IQ right? Since they didn't have to put effort in to find food they became underdeveloped

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You can't eat rice

I miss pumpkin risotto so god damn much

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I've lived in warm climates all my life (as did most of my ancestors for the past few centuries, I'm not black though) and I scored 145 the only time I took an IQ test (WISC-III back then).

He obviously meant most. Exceptions to the rule like you always exist.

>not enjoying your gf's hairy butthole
low test

tastes like shit

GD FREAKIN BASED

It's bad kinda bad for lifting because you don't have as much explosive energy.

not maintainable, not fun.

I did not know you could make posts that retarded. Have you ever seen wild apples? As in original apples that are not a product of human selection? Have a look at the fruits.

Did you also realize that most trees in the forest are actually not apple trees? I wonder why.

You say that humans are frugivores. You say you can dry apples to survive in winter. Were humans born with the ability to dry apples for winter?

unless youre morbidly obese its gay just track approximate calories and macros

Some of the keto friendly foods I see is ridiculous. Cauliflower pizza crusts, or pressed chicken as a pizza crust. A tortilla made of cheese. And there was a keto friendly low carb cereal my wife go which the first bites tasted like honeybun, then it tasted like butterscotch, and then it tasted so bad I couldn’t eat it anymore.

Ever tried cauliflower rice? It isn’t the same, but still tastes good if you season it right.

it's gay

oranges grow during the winter here in california

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gmo oranges and gmo apples were not around, so we were not scientifically "programmed" to be frugivores, just carnivores, look at how we are built and it becomes pretty clear

literally all citrics give their fruits in winter and not in other time of the year except if thy are gmo, retard.
I dont know about apples but i am pretty sure they are from late summer.

predomesticated apples and oranges were not edible, insane amounts of toxins. the only fruits that could have been eaten were berries, and its not exactly easy to pick a cup full of berries in nature.

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Only good if you're obese

wild oranges never existed, tangerines did and were probably edible
i am not him anyways. Man is basically carnivore/root eater in my opinion.

Man is basically ass eater which is available both in the winter and summer

It's catabolic. Muscle protein synthesis is far more efficient with some carbs, or with a protein intake high enough for your body to start turning the excess protein into carbs. Strict keto is really only good for weight loss and improving insulin sensitivity. But restoring insulin sensitivity doesn't work nearly as well if you cheat with artificial sweeteners like fatties always do.

biased*

can you post her feet OP?

our ancestors lived in tropical jungles on the equator

>few centuries

It’s substantially harder to find food in Africa than it is in Europe, fwiw

also having to run away from predators made them favour narrow hips over a large brian

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the main factor was having to plan ahead and store food for winter

because blacks didn't know how to farm or nutrient cycle the earth. Come to think of it, they don't know much at all

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Lol wtf

my bro lost 20 lbs in 1 month doing keto, with 8 lbs in the first week

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you're not doing keto, you're doing low carb retard

You can't really get a proper amount of fiber on keto (30-40 grams on a bulk and 20-30 on a cut) because you're restricting your carbs.

>muh fiber

It's 50 g or 10% of your caloric intake no matter if you're on a surplus or a deficit. You can get good amounts from foods like salad vegetables because their carbohydrate content is mostly fiber and fiber doesn't contribute to your net carb intake.

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Too much for today

Well, cycling on and off it is a good idea to avoid nutrient deficiencies and possibly having hyperglycemic episodes whenever you do finally eat something carb heavy or sugary and delicious again.When retards do it Atkins style like homeboy here mentions, it is inflammatory versus eating a high vegetable diet with some avocado oil and grassfed beef or sockeye salmon.You have to constantly check your blood and worry about every single thing you eat (even too many carrots) knocking you out. It really takes a year to get to where you were before sports performance wise unless your taking ketone esters and effectively doping. Faggy casual listeners of JRE and every other personality on the internet talk about it like THEY really know whats up.It does increase Test, It does increase IGF it does produce more ATP, it does provide more mental clarity,it does make fasting and skipping meals easier, it does make your demand for oxygen less so if you do any heavy cardio,running,swimming,biking it will increase your performance and save your teeth,guts and bowels from sugary foods, bonking mid race and from diarrhea in said races. So yeah like everything in life does alot of shit with its own list of +/-'s.

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also this is in people who have the genetic variations that ketogenic diets work for, its not a one size fits all solution although overall having some fat in the diet is good and limiting carbs to a reasonable amount is good.

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>frugivore

Nice try but out jaws would be way more specialized and more robust for a majority fruit based diet.

We’d also be extinct or at least endangered because of it and Neanderthalensis or Denisovans would have beat us out in the long run as far as the dominant species is concerned.

We’re not designed to be either. We’re omnivorous. If we were carnivores we’d have more pronounced dentition and we’d be able to effectively digest it without cooking it or letting it decay.

The same reason we’re not frugivores because we’d see smaller canines and more pronounced molars and pre molars with larger more protruding jaws.

We’re not Paranthropines and we’re not carnivors, we are opportunistic hunter gatherers.

Wild apples were native to the central asian mountains we weren’t even near them until 80k years ago. But they are edible

keto is just generic high protein low calorie crash diet shit for 99% of people. ketosis is real, but is not beneficial for muscle building or strength training.

the benefits of ketosis, in practice, are largely tied to positive personality changes seen in autistic populations and the feeling of satiation for people with discipline issues related to their diet.

building strength and building muscle requires adequate recovery in sleep and nutrition. additionally, the majority of trained people will struggle to build any strength or muscle without a caloric surplus.

building a caloric surplus while in ketosis is disgusting. an absolute travesty of fats and oils with less meat than you'd expect and, for a majority of people, an inability to enjoy the meat you are eating. you will not crave it. everything will taste like fat.

if you're trying to hold on to strength, cut slow, eat carbs, and no more than 5lbs at a time.

Shitty energy levels, but it's great for brainlets who want to eat clean

If you are in deep ketosis and have any body fat to burn you won't have much appetite and might have to pay extra attention to make sure you are eating enough.
Also weird balance of needing a cheat day to replenish glycogen, but that knocks you out of ketosis, gives you cravings and make it easy to fall off the wagon for awhile.
Most importantly it's pretty much worthless if you are trying to be competitive in anything or do combat sports that require explosive cardio.

Another thing I forgot to mention is that It can be used to manage Epilepsy and Multiple Sclerosis.