What's the Jow Forums consensus on smoking? Is it really as bad for you as they say, or are their some benefits?
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Dont know about health, but it sure does expensive
t. wageslave
>smell of shit
>tar and cancer in the lungs
Benefits? Well, if you 14yo you can look cooler to your classmates.
>intentionally inhaling into your lungs the combustion byproducts of any substance for any reason whatsoever
Do I really need to convince you?
Why do you want to smoke, anyway? Do you think it'll make you one of the 'cool kids' or something?
>pro-tip: it WON'T
It'll just make you smell like an ashtray, taste like an ashtray to any woman that kisses you, and then when you're addicted to nicotine, you'll be jonesing for a goddamned cigarette every 10 minutes the rest of your life.
Then you'll eventually get some degernerative disease of the respiratory system and/or have heart problems, and you'll still be addicted, still be smelly, have yellowed fingers from the tobacco, spend all sorts of money because it's expensive, have your overall health ruined, and die young because you smoke. All for no valid reason.
>but user, Jow Forums smokers tell me nicotine is *good* for me and raises test and has health and mental benefits!
BULLSHIT. Nicotine is a POISON, plain and simple. One drop of pure nicotine on your skin will KILL YOU in a matter of minutes, it's that toxic.
>but user, how about if I vape instead? Isn't that healthier?
LOL no, it's got SEVERAL TIMES THE NICOTINE as tobacco. """Vaping""" is just a drug delivery device, to addict you to nicotine.
One way or the other they get you on the hook, then they own your ass. Don't do it.
>inb4 I'm a pussy
Pre-emptive strike on the trolls and smokerfags:
You're DRUG ADDICTS, what you say doesn't count here because you're substance-abusing drug addicts and your brain doesn't work right anymore.
tobacco boosts testosterone. that's why the jews don't want you to smoke it
>benefits
you're less likely to die of coronary heart disease because you'll die of lung cancer at 50 instead, fuck off addict.
theres about 5 posters on this board who are unable to quit smoking tobacco so their brain short circuited and they got into this conspiracy theory that also is promoted by about 5 people elsewhere on the internet that tobacco is good for you and its a big jewish trick that it causes lung cancer and shit. and that the cancer is caused by all the additives, not because youre inhaling combusted plant 50 times a day. i mean just do some reading from actual scientists and doctors and studies about it. not everything taken to be common sense, like smoking is unhealthy, is wrong.
as a smoker I agree with everything you say
this must be why every trailer trash fat white guy who smokes cigarettes in west virginia and kentucky is such a stunning example of strength and vitality
Bullshit. Even if it does the health and social consequences far outweigh any small '''benefits''' you might get from it. You're better off eating onions every day than smoking, at least onions won't fuck your shit up.
fuck off healthfags
..okay, I'll bite: if you agree with me then why are you still a smoker? Why not quit?
Smoking is based and very redpilled. Buy the IQOS (Now available in US markets)
>t. NOT a chemist for Phillip Morris
>quit smoking and started eating fish erryday
>never out of breath, not even when sprinting for the train
smoking is garbage
t. smoked a pack a day for almost a decade
Have you considered switching to the new (In the US market) IQOS? Here are some of the features
>1: Retain the same convenient form factor as a conventional product
>2: No Smoke. No smell. The aerosol delivers the flavour, mouth feel, and nicotine of a conventional product without the negatives of burning tobacco.
>3: Reduced risk. While no product is 100% safe. The IQOS by Phillip Morris (Makers of your consume favorite Marlboro) is proven to significantly reduce the health risks associated with conventional tobacco products.
Give us a try! I don't think you'll be disappointed. That morning coffee, or post workout break will never feel better.
>Smoking
>Waifu
THAT IS A SHIT WAIFU AND THAT SHIT WAIFU SHOULD BE DISCIPLINED UWU.
nigga, literally the only stimulant I rock now is green tea, and ads makes me want to buy a product less
>/sarcasm
No benefits. Waste of money and destroys your lungs. You become a slave to nicotine.
Green tea has been shown to decrease whereas IQOS by Phillip Morris is proven effective in increasing Give us a try ZYZZ!
maybe I'm retarded
I've quit a few times and then for some reason, I think it's a good idea to have a cigarette; the first one is shit but then I'm hooked again. I've read allen carr's book twice and am reading it a third time but it feels dumb because I know everything he has to stay. cognitive dissonance, lack of willpower, being couchbound with an injury and bored as heck
I don't know man, I wish I knew why I don't just stop and never pick the damn things up again
unrequited love
Lmao
Have you considered switching to IQOS by Phillip Morris? For a smoke-free future you!
>Green tea has been shown to decrease
My bloodwork says differently.
Your doctor is a .
My doctor is the state.
buy our products ass blaster
no but I ordered a breeze 2 online
going to vape so at least I won't stink when I get my nicotine fix
suck a dick for a promotion
Expensive.
Highly addictive.
Fucks up your lungs.
Makes you smell like shit.
Causes terminal illness.
All it is is a slow suicide.
>dat pic
Why do nazi sympathizers lean toward the dark, EVIL aesthetic?
Enjoy your coil and wick system that Pyrolizes PG into carcinogenic byproducts. IQOS is the only FDA approved tobacco alternative RRP that does not have any risk of pyrolization by products.
How did you find this video of me.
>if...When you wash this out
I enjoy a man who understands his target Audience. Much like me. Understanding you're all a bunch of ass blasters. Buy IQOS available now in US markets.
George Burns inhaled three cigars a day from age three to age one hundred and two. He never got cancer. Many people get Cancer who never smoke. Nicotine can help with memory, focus, stress. Liberal propaganda against smoking is a last ditch effort to bankrupt the Southern tobacco industry. Nothing more. All the fake data against smoking are lies.
based. fuck all the rest of you, I'm still smoking
Anecdotal data is meaningless, there are always outliers on both sides. The only thing you can rely on is studies.
>cigars
This is the thing. Just don't buy cigs and vapes, they're full of jew cancer magic. Cigars and pipe tobacco's fine.
Yessir, I have to agree with you, but I am a very addictive person so I smoke and drink anyways. I only do it about 1 cigarette every 2-3 days and the same with beer every weekend. Honestly I am going to stop soon because I am noticing damage to my teeth and gums. I started because someone offered me a cig when I was super stressed out and I felt better afterwards and kept on doing it.
Not a smoker but if there's one thing it has going for it, it's the social element. Whether it's at work, in a club/pub or just general places with other people, smoking is the one thing that gets people together and off their smartphones.
I don't smoke. I'd never want to smoke. I've got the kind of addictive personality that means I'd never quit if I started. By god if I did it, though, it'd be for the social element 'cause it seems like smoking is the only time people fucking interact.
Benefits:
>look cool to teenagers
>get a little adrenaline buzz like caffeine
Drawbacks:
>smell like tar all the time
>have to step outside every couple hours
>non-smokers will judge pretty harshly
>spend half your money on cigarettes
>look and sound like a human prune at the ripe old age of 40
>irreparable respiratory damage, possibly including cancer
Just drink coffee.
>I don't know man, I wish I knew why I don't just stop and never pick the damn things up again
Just like you keep lifting, keep quitting and eventually you'll make it.
t. 22 years of smoking including 11 years of attempted quitting, now 1 year not smoking
>this
This
>listening to a bunch of non smokers tell you what smoking will do to you
I don't do 1,000 push ups a day but let me tell you all about it...
>get a little adrenaline buzz like caffeine
I think I'm smoking wrong.
Chewing > smoking
I smoke cigs. Not like a pack a day but like 5 cigarettes a day.
Lately I've been throwing up a lot and can't each much and it always feels like I have nasal drip at the back of my throat
Eat*
Just switch from tobaco to weed and you will have a long life as a winner
They’re both stimulants, they do practically the same thing. Granted, I’ve never smoked tobacco, I vaped for about a week in high school though
I smoke sometimes, not on the regular.
Why are you so anal?
Nice man, thanks for the motivation. Good job dude.
You might just have a cold. Smoking means you get resp. infections more
thanks for the add
nicotine and caffeine are similar on the surface in that they're both stims, but their method of action and side effects are extremely different. Nicotine is highly reinforcing, and will addict you to not only the substance itself, but also any action you habitually do while taking nicotine.
Consensus is more or less
>Dude, nicoteine and alcohol? More like WEED and PSYCHEDELICS dude
I only smoke once a month, if that often. I don't enjoy a nicotine buzz enough to want to smoke multiple times a day or week, and not being able to run without coughing up a lung is a deal breaker for me. Everything is poison in a high enough dose, everything is fine in moderation. You know the consequences, do what you want.
I love smoking but I had to stop to get my running back under control. After I get a sub-21 minute 5k I might pick it back up, but until then I'm on that nicorette grind.
Biggest benefits are the fast women that lurk patios and smoking sections looking for a lighter
They have oral fixation and doesn't afraid of trivialities like cancer and death
Isn't this a short term (hours) temporary boost, like with alcohol?
Concerning OP's question, nicotine can definitely be beneficial when used judiciously. But unless you are doing Scandanavian snus or Nicorete, then the health detriments are significant
I got want to look into acrolien.
There is no conspiracy smoking tobacco is terrible for you. Don't smoke tobacco unless you plan or dying soon.
rules say 18+ zoomer
Gave up cigarettes a couple years ago in favor of dip. Lung health improved massively, oral health hasn’t declined whatsoever because I’m not a nigger and floss/brush/mouthwash an appropriate amount of times daily, and it helps me to not snack and improves my overrall mood.
>inb4 someone calls it gross when that same faggot fucks strangers raw and puts their mouth on their genitals and/or asshole
chewing is pretty degen 2bh f4m
it's just like any other stimulant once you use it regularly it just becomes part of your baseline and it's no longer enhancing anything. As far as test goes smoker are on average higher test because high test people indulge in a lot of risk taking behavior. So they'd be high test even if they didn't smoke. Not a big surprise really.
Lol please tell me why
>disgusting to watch people spit
>causes oral cancer
>carcinogens ingested while chewing can cause other cancers
>raises blood pressure
>vasoconstriction including making arteries of the heart less elastic and subtle changing of heart rhythm that users don't detect but shows on EKG
>higher risk of stroke due to vasoconstriction
I'm a degen too. I had minor heart surgery the doctor told me not to smoke or drink coffee. I drink coffee like it's going out of style, I smoke cigarettes very occasionally and vape nicotine when I don't my heart is fucked also. I just don't pretend not to be degen like you.
Depends on frequency of use and other lifestyle factors. Sounds like you're just an out of shape cunt and your doctor's too afraid of triggering you about your diet and exercise routine.
>Work at warehouse
>Everyone dips
>Leaves their spit cups on the forklifts
>Leaves their spit cup on any flat surface that is not the floor
>Spit directly into garbage cans
>Spit directly onto the floor
Yes you are degenerate for associating yourself with inbreds who spit on the floor
I'm more fit than most of my sedentary peers. If you want to chew go ahead, but to pretend like you will be ok because you exercise is pretty retarded, it's just all luck of the draw with tobacco use. Every 15 to 30 cigarettes you get a gene mutation, not sure what the ratio is with chewing, thing is most of your genes are dead weight and literally don't do anything, this is why you see people smoke for 90 years and die from natural causes and you see 35 year old smokers dying of cancer, tobacco use is really just a game of luck whether you exercise or not, get the wrong mutation on a gene that actually does something and you're ded.
don't be discouraged, it takes the average smoker seven serious attempts to quit
t. attempt six
You telling me if I smoke, I have a chance to become an x man?
Sign me the fuck up
So is oxygen, desu senpai.
Nicotine patches are based as fuck.
>Often government subsidized
>One lasts all day
>Doesn't fuck up your lungs
>You can't build too much of a tolerance with one a day
All the benefits of smoking without most of the negatives
Hey guiz let's light some plants on fire and inhale the smoke. It's totally not harmful for you in anyway.
If you're going to do it, just fucking do it. Don't try to rationalize it by saying, "Dude, bro, there's like benefits too!" Whether or not that is true doesn't negate the fact that the "benefits" (fleeting concentration, relaxation, stress release) doesn't compare to the long term side effects.
Fuck this thread and fuck you OP, you cope-fag
I never feel compelled to smoke unless I'm driving, never really knew why before.
Most vape 3mg, cigs are 8mg on average. Post is bullshit.
My gains have gone through the roof since I started smoking cigarettes.
It's a proven fact that nicotine helps you build muscle faster and increases circulation.
Why aren't you smoking yet?
It took doctors decades to realize and then inform the public inhaling smoke is bad for you.
You really trust products that are likely made in China? Even in states with legalized marijuana they have trouble meeting standards.
I have one cigarette a day before gym and I find the nicotine actually gives me insane focus. I used to smoke a lot years ago but cutting back to one a day, I don’t feel like it has hindered me physically at all.
I appreciate you.
Say what you want about smoking, but vaping is cooler. Stephen Dorff vapes.
I used to smoke. Haven’t in about 8 years. I still want one everytime I see one. But the smell absolutely turns me off wanting to smoke. It’s disgusting. I also found that if I just imagine doing it and take a deep breath i kind of get the same feeling of relaxation.
Schlomo out in full force. Just wait anons till they get their hands on tobacco industry, there will be a lot more smoking shills and none of the opposition.
I’m 21 brah. Vape was just starting to catch on, it was the cool new thing for “alt” kids at the time. My school was full of those types.
Based and degeneratepilled
at least alcohol can be made to be tasty and makes me sociable, tobacco doesn't
I smoke every now and again. When my lift days are bad along with my personal days. Makes me feel a little better to know I cut off a few minutes.
>”Say what you want about smoking, but vaping is cooler. Stephen Dorff vapes.”
Vaping nicotine content is dependent entirely on the juice you're using. Nicotine on its own, while it is a natural insecticide, is in no way comparable to all the other shit in cigarettes you get from the combustion process.
It's the ultimate weapon for social gains.
you can't opt out of oxygen and still live
absolutely embarassing thread with Jow Forums levels of cope.
>take proven carcinogens
>heat them to make them more reactive
>put them inside your body
What could go wrong? Hell, you even skip your liver and put that shit directly into your lung.
90% of all people with lung cancer are smokers. You have to add the physical damage that hot smoke does to your lung to the genetic damage. At least you don't have to worry about cardio anymore. If you smoke you are a retard and completely deserve everything that is coming for you.
ктo зa дeвyшкa? who's the girl? source?
but as far as smoking, cmon....obviously terrible for you - obviously lungs but not only cancer, inhaling anything at a high temperature is going to burn the tissue it comes in contact with, so yes it fucks up your lungs. copd. skin appears older and more leathery. decreased microcirculation to extremities. increased risk of coronary artery disease.
>healthfags
>on fit board.
Are you fucking retarded user?
i lost 30 lbs since i started smoking 4 months ago
I really miss smoking and if it weren't so bad for your cardio I never would have quit.