PPL: higher volume but you only hit each body part twice a week
Full Body: Lower volume per workout per body part but you hit every body part 3 or 3.5 times a week (depending on if you do 3 times a week or every other day)
Muscle protein synthesis (MPS) happens for 24-48 hours (for natties) in a muscle after working it out. So if you train full body every 48 hours you're in an constant state of MPS.
You may get more volume in with a PPL, but each muscle is only in MPS for a total of 4 days a week. Full body every other day each muscle is in a state of MPS 24/7.
Most things in nature have diminishing returns. I assume training volume for hypertrophy does as well. So even if you get (for example) twice the volume of training in shoulders, chest and triceps on a push day compared to a full body workout, you won't get twice the results.
So isn't it the amount of time you're in a state of MPS during the week more important than volume per workout?
Also working out every other day is a nice split for a number of other reasons; you don't get burned out, a lot of time for recovery, time efficient, you can do all the fun lifts (all the compounds and less accessory exercises), you can do cardio, sports or stretching on rest days.
Personally I work out full body 2 hours every other day and usually play football (soccer) on rest days.
You can do the same amount of volume you do in a ppl in 3 days, probably not optimal but you can do it.
It dosn't really matter that much, what matters is weekly volume (and its for sure better hitting a muscle twice rather then once but not necessarily more)
>So isn't it the amount of time you're in a state of MPS during the week more important than volume per workout? Probably not, you need to there to be enough sets and reps in order for it to have an effect, you can probably get MPS with a training amount that is to little to cause gains.
I dont know enough about muscle protein synthesis though
personally i work out full body monday, tuesday, thursday and friday
Kayden Wright
>My max pull up is 10 >I do 4x8 pull ups in 1 session >So that is a total of 32 repetitions >Lets say I want to do 5 pull ups through out the day with 1 set each time >Lets say I do that 10 times in a whole day for a total of 50 reps
Which one is better?
Isaiah Scott
dont overthink this shit nigga just lift LOL fullbody>PPL for beginners
Jason Davis
That's why I only do PP
Samuel Rivera
I bet you do, faggot
Blake Adams
>weekly volume >weekly >your muscles know what a week is
Alexander Martinez
OP, how about you listen to coaches and people who have tried and tested this hundreds of times or have reached the top of their game instead of trying to come to your own logic.
PPLvsFB is a redundant argument. It depends massively on your goals, level of progression, chemical assistance, age, weight etc.
You're trying to oversimplify things. You don't just 'hit' something and expect it to recover within 48 hours. Once you're past your noobie gains, each session (should) vary greatly in volume and intensity.
Stop trying to form your own opinion and just get yourself to 2/3/4/5 through tried and tested methods.
Jordan Roberts
Nigga I'm not overthinking but training split is a pretty fundamental decision and it's worth some thought I'm intermediate. Why is full body better for beginners and what about intermediate?
Owen Bennett
You can be the dummy and test it on yourself and see how you react to it Do FB for 3 months, then rest for 1 month then do PPL for 3 months and see which is better for you
Carson Morales
Any thoughts on what I should do FB/PPL/other things? My goal is aesthetics, intermediate (80kg/176lbs 185cm/6'1" 11% BF), natty, 20 years old
Ethan Stewart
Probably the former because the intensity is higher. Workout volume isn't the only driver of hypertrophy and probably not the primary one. I think athlean-x has a vid called "Why volume is killing your gains" or something about that topic
Jeremiah Peterson
define "better"
Nolan Martinez
You train them to know what a week is dumbass
Anthony Roberts
I doubt you're an intermediate at 176lbd at 6.1ft
Aiden Foster
5'9, 174lb manlet confirming that individual is a novice
Levi Sanchez
just do a split you nerd hahaha all the bros are doing it
Kevin Kelly
OP, post your full body routine. i'd like to change things up from my PPL.
Josiah Hughes
Sure its Mom 10x10 squats ramping Bench press 20 sets. Pyramid SUPERSET Superset biceps and triceps till they fall off Weds Squats 5x5 at 99% 1RM Ohp: 10x10 Deadlift 1RM PR and a back off of 20x10 at 80% weight Friday: Squats 11x10 ramping (beat Mondays best on last set) Bench press: new 1RM PR then back off 8x10 Arms superset Saturday: Crossfit