Why don't you just get yourself a wheelchair-bound gf? They can be just as cute as normal girls, but their market value is lower and their standards surely must be adjusted for that fact.
Why don't you just get yourself a wheelchair-bound gf? They can be just as cute as normal girls...
Connor Cook
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Nathan James
I've only met two and they were both in relationships
Dylan Jenkins
The notion of the sexual marketplace is fundamentally flawed, because it assumes an objective value for all individuals, competition between all individuals, all men and all women are exchangeable with each other, and romantic relationships exist as relations of mutual consumption. All of it is wrong. The only type of relationship that even gets close to fitting those characteristics is casual sex.
Colton Hernandez
They are nearly impossible to get. First, they make up maybe 0.1% of all females. Second, most don't work so you'll have to earn good money to support her. Last, they all want chads anyway.
Sebastian Flores
>and their standards surely must be adjusted for that fact.
Ryan Young
Were they considerably more attractive than their partners, if you disregard the wheelchair?
I'm willing to bet the answer is yes.
Aiden Phillips
>All of it is wrong.
No. All women have inherent value because of their bodies and capacity to reproduce. Men, on the other hand have to compete for limited resources and mates. There is also a social hierarchy that goes live this
>top 20% males who have it extremely easy
>majority of women who just have to put on make-up, take selfies on social media
>bottom 80% males who have it disproportionately worse and have to do all the grunt work hoping they'll get what they need in return
Leo Rivera
>All women have inherent value because of their bodies and capacity to reproduce
Men have bodies and capacity to reproduce as well.
>Men, on the other hand have to compete for limited resources and mates
Most men are wagies. They don't do any competing for resources. Not to mention that the distribution of women and men is 50/50, so there aren't limited mates.
>80/20 rule
Literally something randomly invented one day by PUAs just because they saw it once in a management textbook. It lacks any credible and conclusive evidence.
>majority of women who just have to put on make-up, take selfies on social media
To achieve what?
>bottom 80% males who have it disproportionately worse and have to do all the grunt work hoping they'll get what they need in return
A fiction drawn from the combination of several disparate truths.
Women have the advantage in the heterosexual dating world, this is true. However, the reason for this is their lower libido and higher selectivity, and not any 80/20 rules. Their selectivity is not objective at all.
Grayson Stewart
Most bluepilled NPC retort I've encountered on this board.
Someone give this NPC's programmer a medal.
Sebastian Young
/20 rule
Literally something randomly invented one day by PUAs just because they saw it once in a management textbook. It lacks any credible and conclusive evidence.
>what is an okcupid study
>what is various other studies some by the government
>what is you're personal bias causing you to dismiss things you dont like
>what is congnitive dissonance cuz mean things you dont agree with
>what is not accepting reality because you still fall for the hollywierd lie there's a loyal female for you out there in 2019
top kek dont reply it'll be more virgin soi retorts and attacks which is all you have to offer when called
Robert Ortiz
how many wheelchair-bound hot girls do you see walking around retard?
Aiden Ross
>walking around
Exactly zero, by definition
Gabriel Nguyen
/20 rule
>Literally something randomly invented one day by PUAs just because they saw it once in a management textbook. It lacks any credible and conclusive evidence.
It's called zipf rule. It's a power law and very much real, you fucking NPC.
Good one.
Logan Murphy
>what is an okcupid study
That study literally disproved the 80/20 rule. It showed that women rate 80% of men as below 5/10, but it also showed that 80% of women's messages were sent to guys in those 80%. However, incels like to ignore that part, and focus only on the one that suits their bullshit ideology. Not to mention that, for that study to function as proof, you would have to assume that attractiveness is completely objective (which, connected to the other result I point out, is likely not true), and that the population of okcupid is representative of the rest of society.
>what is various other studies some by the government
I don't know these, but would like the opportunity to prove to you that your interpretation of them as proof of the 80/20 rule is fallacious.
>what is you're personal bias causing you to dismiss things you dont like
Ironic that you should say that, because you are the one who is falling both for that and confirmation bias.
>what is congnitive dissonance cuz mean things you dont agree with
Ironic for the same reason I pointed out before.
>what is not accepting reality
Literally the most ironic thing I've ever heard from an incel.
>fall for the hollywierd lie there's a loyal female for you out there in 2019
I don't want a loyal female, user. I couldn't care less about women.
>virgin soi retorts
Stop projecting, my dude.
Owen Rivera
you win this round. but next time, you won't be so lucky.
Adam Rivera
Wheelchair ones don't lose that much value, someone who is visibly disabled in a gross kind of way do. I've seen a woman with messed up face, not fetus on a face kind of, but just really deformed, if she was still in her 20s I'd try to break the ice.
Ryder Evans
It's all fun and games until they take off their pants.
Gabriel Gomez
What her face has to do with pussy?
Dylan Cox
it showed females went after the top 20% and ignored the lower 80% but it proves that wrong. . will relook it up shortly to make sure cuz you know what I very well could be remembering it backwards im man enough to admit I could be wrong.
I'm looking for the government link studies right now user since I want to re-read them and make sure before I post.
nah I can openly see females have a shallow thing going on especially in regards to height. but do keep thinking females are behaving nicely towards almost all males and not just to higher tiers.
good dont care about woman... they are a dead end trap and are a negative net investment.
bruh havent been a virgin in a long time and that's a generic retort... if it wasnt true you wouldnt even be phased by it. toughen up man seriously. you've been a fun debate but lets not degrade it to name calling.
plus I gotta chop out shortly so lets enjoy this while we can
Angel Young
I mean, a wheelchair girl will be normal from the waist up. From the waist down is a completely different story that you might not be ready for.
Noah Martinez
>it showed females went after the top 20% and ignored the lower 80%
It didn't though. It showed that the overwhelming majority of messages these women sent were to those 80% of men who they found unattractive. It's just that incel places only show the 80% unattractive part and assume the rest, even though the rest of the study guarantees that is not a possible interpretation.
>I can openly see females have a shallow thing going on
And? In what way does that prove the 80/20 rule? You are arguing out of emotion.
>do keep thinking females are behaving nicely towards almost all males
I don't. Women are people, and people are horrible pieces of shit to each other.
>not just to higher tiers
If they are looking to get laid with a guy, they will act nicely to them. However, to assume that that means only 20% of men get laid is literally baseless and retarded. Only 14% of men in the USA aged between 18 and 24 are virgins. The percentage of virgin women in the same age range is 12%.
>good dont care about woman... they are a dead end trap and are a negative net investment
That was the wisest thing you said thus far.
>you wouldnt even be phased by it
I wasn't though. I just thought it was ironic, given how it is incels who talk about the 80/20 rule, who are virgins almost by definition.
Daniel Jones
Crippled chicks don't actually lower their standards, in fact most of them are so used to being completely taken care of and treated nicely by every single person they encounter, that their ego inflates most of the time and makes it even worse.
Michael Miller
>their ego inflates most of the time
Literally this. I have never met a person in a wheelchair who didn't act like an entitled bitch.
Joseph Ramirez
You must greentext your experiences now.
David Evans
cucked by Chad Thunderwheels
Tyler Brooks
Well since I cant find the government studies I cant link them thus they arent useable in this convo.
>good dont care about woman... they are a dead end trap and are a negative net investment
>That was the wisest thing you said thus far.
I'm thinking we're share similar views of female but have drastically different mindsets of females. Least we both know they arent worth the price of admission in 2019 and havent been for years.
>>you wouldnt even be phased by it
>I wasn't though. I just thought it was ironic, given how it is incels who talk about the 80/20 rule, who are virgins almost by definition.
Ahh now that I can't argue since that statement is true. No user not a virgin tho I do see how you got that idea. Same as I assume you arent.
>not just to higher tiers
>If they are looking to get laid with a guy, they will act nicely to them. However, to assume that that means only 20% of men get laid is literally baseless and retarded. Only 14% of men in the USA aged between 18 and 24 are virgins. The percentage of virgin women in the same age range is 12%.
got a link to that info? I would like to read that over. Stuff like that I didnt know. And no I dont mean only 20% of men get laid I mean females are interested in that tier more. but only getting laid def not.
Colton Garcia
Dick so fire she got paralyzed, niggaaaah
Thomas Harris
Ayy, racing stripes ain't gonna make your legs work.
Colton Hill
>I'm thinking we're share similar views of female but have drastically different mindsets of females
Maybe. I'm essentially a left MGTOW.
>we both know they arent worth the price of admission in 2019 and havent been for years
Indeed. However, I would say it's never been worth it. I consider the vast majority of women to be odious, vapid, and boring creatures. The idea that I should try to please such people is an insult to me. I would only ever consider a relationship with a woman who I actually enjoy interacting with, and only in conditions where my independence and dignity is guaranteed.
>got a link to that info?
Yeah. Here you go: cdc.gov
It's on pages 17 and 18.
>I dont mean only 20% of men get laid I mean females are interested in that tier more
Ok, but it that case the 80/20 rule seems meaningless.
Gabriel Baker
Just here to post the classic
Daniel King
I had a cute deaf girl be interested in me when I was 13 but was too turned off to go about it.
Austin Ramirez
>I'm thinking we're share similar views of female but have drastically different mindsets of females
>Maybe. I'm essentially a left MGTOW.
Well that was one of my 3 guesses on why you view females how you do. I dont claim to be mgtow but i've lived around tier 3-4 for years
>we both know they arent worth the price of admission in 2019 and havent been for years
>Indeed. However, I would say it's never been worth it. I consider the vast majority of women to be odious, vapid, and boring creatures. The idea that I should try to please such people is an insult to me. I would only ever consider a relationship with a woman who I actually enjoy interacting with, and only in conditions where my independence and dignity is guaranteed.
I realized how boring and childish they were after carrying conversation #87562862 with them. Add in how vapid and vain they are and how quick to throw someone under a bus for the tiniest infraction and it's just not worth it. Add in their witch hunts to destroy good men under some moral bullshit only they understand and adding one to my life becomes a chore, takes from my happiness, and drains my stocks. Friends think i'm crazy I dont date but seeing all my friends miserable when they do is a good reminder im on the right path with that.
>got a link to that info?
>Yeah. Here you go: cdc.gov
It's on pages 17 and 18.
Sweet this will be a good read
>I dont mean only 20% of men get laid I mean females are interested in that tier more
>Ok, but it that case the 80/20 rule seems meaningless.
Yeah looking at the ok cupid study and this convo we had i've been relooking at that rule and yeah it doesnt seem as relevant in 2019. i'll be pondering on that a bit more indeed.
Nathaniel Miller
I have a very vivid and complex fantasy about having a deaf gf.
We'd develop our own set of "touch signals", so that I could talk to her without needing line of sight for sign language / to pull out my phone.
For instance, stroking her earlobe would be " I love you".
happy Valentine's day boys
;_;
Nicholas Fisher
Fantasty nonsense. You are turned on about having sex but her speaking because she doesn't have a reference point to how loud she is will turn you off. I seriously thought about it and I couldn't do it.
Funny how I became a bastard for making her cry and even had to fight some faggot who was older than me who said I was out of line. Piece of shit.
Dominic Martin
>I realized how boring and childish they were after carrying conversation #87562862 with them
Same. The worst part is when they act in an entitled way and seem to expect you to put in all the work, while ignoring and being bored at the stuff you like to talk to, but then getting mad when you do the same to them.
I tend to dislike expressing things in terms of "women are like this", instead of "most women I've met have been like this", because there is a minority of women I know who is cool and whose company I enjoy for its own sake, and I wouldn't like them to feel hurt by generalisations.
>quick to throw someone under a bus for the tiniest infraction
How so?
>witch hunts to destroy good men under some moral bullshit
Mostly I've faced this from sjws in general. They are, in many ways, a cult.
>Friends think i'm crazy I dont date but seeing all my friends miserable when they do is a good reminder im on the right path with that
Fucking same, dude. They keep complaining about how their gfs exploit them and control them, but then when you suggest that they break up or at least stand up for themselves, they will not do it. They are like drug addicts: willing to face any amount of misery just to get a hit (in this case, to get sex).
Jason Scott
And now you're here suffering with us
Still think you made the right choice?
Justin Sanders
>Same. The worst part is when they act in an entitled way and seem to expect you to put in all the work, while ignoring and being bored at the stuff you like to talk to, but then getting mad when you do the same to them.
Yeah I loathe how they think like that. Acting like I need to be overly accomplished in material aspects but also be a great charismatic jester to entertain her many at the moment whims. Not interested in that song and puppet act
>I tend to dislike expressing things in terms of "women are like this", instead of "most women I've met have been like this", because there is a minority of women I know who is cool and whose company I enjoy for its own sake, and I wouldn't like them to feel hurt by generalisations.
I try to avoid saying all woman are like that since I also know a few good ones that really beat the stereotype of females in many ways.
>quick to throw someone under a bus for the tiniest infraction
>How so?
Females HATE accountability so if put into a position where they get the finger pointed they will throw someone else under the bus and blame them for the outcome of said situation instead of accepting it as is. I think under the bus wasnt the best choice for this.
>witch hunts to destroy good men under some moral bullshit
>Mostly I've faced this from sjws in general. They are, in many ways, a cult.
I refer to sjw as social facist warriors and consider them a very dangerous cult that is way out of control.
They sure do love a good doxing
>Fucking same, dude. They keep complaining about how their gfs exploit them and control them, but then when you suggest that they break up or at least stand up for themselves, they will not do it. They are like drug addicts: willing to face any amount of misery just to get a hit (in this case, to get sex).
Yaeh they dont want to accept the reality of why I dont date.
Samuel Butler
Well I would still be alone user, you see the girl was highly intelligent and got into a great high school and so she is probably a succes compared to me.
Our relationship wouldn't have worked. She wanted companionship and I wanted some pussy so you can probably imagine how it would end up.
No friend I am here because all the variables would still lead to this conclusion.
Christopher Gomez
Ugly girls and handicapped wants Chad. Like me, you should look to shy and/or depressed girls. But they last just for a couple years until they gain confidence and fucks some chad
David Parker
I am an attractive 6ft tall guy and would absolutely date a wheelchair girl as long as she wasnt a whore and her pussy worked
Brody Reed
>isn't a whore
>has working pussy
You can have one, but not both.
Christian Campbell
All too true unfortunately...
James Hernandez
Yeah, but you would've had more experience with girls and thus had a greater chance of romancing subsequent women.