Once that's done, make sure to include the following alongside your question: >age >height >weight >bodyfat >time spent lifting
Oral-only cycles shut down natural hormone production and put strain on the liver for small results. Just pin. If you're scared of needles, stop being a pussy or accept that you can't use gear.
Even as certified internet doctors, we can't tell you how to dose your AI. It's very individual.
And yes, situational homosexuality is a side effect of steroids. Get over it.
>And yes, situational homosexuality is a side effect of steroids. Get over it. Not even a lie. Currently got a fuckbuddy who is just a guy who turned 18 recently and is crazy feminine. Better sex than most thots ngl
Mason Campbell
Guys I accidentally injected 2cc of non sterile air into my glute. How fucked am I?
Help/advice needed. I'm freaking out.
Andrew White
Into the muscle/fat? You're fine Into a vein? You'd already be dead
Based and trap pilled. Tren?
Michael Hughes
>Based and trap pilled. Tren? Can't afford tren, so I am just on a fuckload of homebrew Test
John Morris
>Can homebrew test >Can't afford tren raws
wut.
Michael Young
should I add 400 or 600 deca to my 30 week test/eq recomp/lean bulk blast?
Benjamin Rodriguez
>18 >1.94m >110 kg > 20%~ > been lifting for about 3 years, lift every day.
Wanted to know how do i start taking steroids? How do i choose the type to use?
Jordan Cook
With my source, tren is like $5.5/gram, Test is around $0.8/gram
Julian Bell
Still pretty cheap at under 14$ a vial at 250mg imo
Parker Anderson
everybody tells you just to do 300-500mg of test a week (enanthate) pin twice a week for more stable bloodlevels. do bloodwork tell your doctor what you are doing and do your research what a proper pct should look like.
Angel Richardson
The anecdotal rule of thumb is to keep your test higher than deca, so if you were doing 600 deca, ur test would be 800+. If you're okay with that and believe the sides won't be significant for you, sure.
Adrian Lewis
you are way to young to do steroids. wait till you are 25. your normal hormone levels are not set to stable base level yet you can fuck your shit up if you start this early and may have to stay on trt for life.
Nathan Hernandez
As a side note, Bill Roberts thinks that deca is some gay shit, or really any other injectable that isn't test or tren. He just suggests to run more test and manage the sides with an AI and clomid. That being said, I think deca does have a small place, not for gains in particular but to lube up your joints if you have bad knees or something.
Well oh my.. i do the old Anavar only cycle 50mg/day for 8-10 weeks then pct after ive never had any sides.. i mean i assume my natural production was probably slightly lowered but then again it is a dht derivative
Jack Cruz
I guess, I guess it depends on doses. I'm crazy poor atm though, should change soon. I'm running 1500mg Test right now, and its working out for me fine. I've never really looked into what a high dosage tren cycle should look like.
Juan Mitchell
Wow, what a crock of shit.
Adrian Ortiz
Lol ok namefag. And why is it incorrect?
John Long
Alright lads I just had my first complete blood work. I'm 85 kg, 190 cm.
Injected 1 ml 250 test e on Sunday, blood work the following Tuesday. I'm doing injections every 5 days meaning 350 ml test / week.
Lipids are fine, kalcium is a bit high.
Estradiol is at 190 pmol / L. At what values should I start nuking this? Can I calculate an expected value and dose accordingly? I have Aromasin and Nolva.
Testosterone went from 16 nmol / L (natty) to 42 nmol / L on this one injection for the interested.
Caleb Parker
If any of you EU frauders who is into homebrewing can message me on telegram @tellmeatale I would much appreciate that. I have been lifting for 9 years and fraud for 3 years.
post pic before you even talk to ccfc you massive cuck. he has blown loads bigger than your iq and knows more about gear use then you know about how to operate that cock holster you call a mouth you absolute faggot. keep your shitcan opinions to yourself you absolute waste of genetic material. you are trash and should have been swallowed.
Landon Rodriguez
>he has blown loads bigger than your iq and knows more about gear use then you know about how to operate that cock holster you call a mouth you absolute faggot >keep your shitcan opinions to yourself you absolute waste of genetic material >you are trash and should have been swallowed
THAT MAN HAD A FAMILY OH LORD SOMEBODY CALL AN AMBULANCE HE HAD A FAMILY DAMNIT
>Bill Roberts, never heard of him >Meso RX >Weaker injectables >Deca (several times stronger than test by AA ratio, AR binding and anecdotal results for the last 40 years >Same action as testosterone, fuark kek >Cytadren >Clomid >CLOMID 100MG ED >Test comparable to deca at equal doses >Article written in 1998 >Suggests that short esters for 2-3 weeks are ok for "frequent" cycles >Suggests Sustanon and dianabol for first cycle in article >complains about toxicity and people struggling with sides in article then goes on to suggest trenbolone, an AAS that a lot complain about sides >sides, sides, sides oh but defo PCT off and use tons of AI and Clomid don't cruise on low dose test or anything
Classic case of someone with outdated knowledge, i mean it was from 1998, 21 years ago so largely I suppose he was just using what was available at the time. Primo is wank tho, #fuckprimogang.
Nicholas Wilson
Ah yes. Bill Roberts the inventor of the two weeks on four weeks off cycle.
Tyler Mitchell
Jesus. He was just trying to bait CCFC for an answer, no need to crush his soul. Even for Jow Forums this is savage.
Jonathan Wood
trips of absolute destruction holy fuck checked and fucking wrecked
Jackson Thompson
kek'd user.
I always thought that was a meme, jesus christ, what was going on in the fucking 90's.
Jacob Johnson
Checked, based, and barbaric-pilled. Justice for not knowing the one true king of Jow Forums.
lmaooooo never thought this would be saved, absolute kekkery.
Elijah Kelly
I guarantee you will get more gains from two 2 week cycles than one 4 week cycle. Bill Roberts spoke about this and to paraphrase he said that it's just simply how human biology works, the body grows better with time between growth spurts. He said he doesn't know why exactly it's the case, it's not due to receptors being desensitized.
Jaxon Sanchez
1g/wk, for 10 weeks, that's $55?
Elijah Cruz
True. I guess 1g/Test and 1g/Tren is affordable. I just feel like Tren is overhyped? Or is it really the magic bullet?
Daniel Reyes
no worries user i never get tired of Jow Forums sucking me off
Kevin Powell
It's insanely overhyped. There's no "nutrition partitioning" or "fat burning" or whatever the fuck else people say there is.
It's only good for strength and mental gains. Strength skyrockets, even on a cut and you should feel really fucking calm, collected, and confident 100% of the time.
I'll only ever run it recreationally when I'm on vacation and when I'm not in a relationship.
Aiden Moore
i hope you all get hiv
Grayson Roberts
>IMPOSTER
I mean i would use an actual trip but tbf everyone likes to be sucked off, to deny the wanting of the sucking is pure faggotry imo.
Its just another roid user. Its strong which means plenty of people get strong sides too. I like it, but a lot of people have built bodies and careers without it, try it once at least but tbf its not "essential".
Jack Williams
I guarantee you'll make more gains sucking a dick than listening to anything Bill Roberts has to say.
Sebastian Brown
>all this semen slurping Absolutely embarrassing.
David Clark
>tbf everyone likes to be sucked off yeah but begging for it devalues it
Caleb Wood
I have no ide where people get quality raws... Like they cant be found on "regular" sites that I get my gear And still I am a bit afraid of the procedure. What if I make a mess and get an abcess? How long can I store it? Should I store it in liquid or powder form?
holy fuck trips confirmed user on suicide watch why only when your not in relationships what are the risks of abscess if I injected air into muscle and it feels different/funny? how long til air dissipates?
Joseph Mitchell
Dude air is fine. You're supposed to have a bit of air in the syringe to get all the oil out
Shoot 1ml of anything oil based into a vein and you'll have a fun time. In hosptial
Christopher Powell
Duhhh theres no veins in the glutes everyone knows that!
Wyatt Morris
>the guys addicted to juice hate cycling Really makes you think.
Blake Thomas
Bump. How should I dose Aromasin to bring Estradiol from 190 pmol / L down to below 120.
Connor Garcia
Depends what you're into really, very judgemental about others kinks user. Is this all because we insulted your hero Bill Roberts? I'm sure he will still sign your tshirt at expos.
You got me there user. Despite my many substance abuse issues roids are the one i would be addicted to, brainlet. But srs, at some point in roiding results come before your health and that's a choice only you can make, and that choice comes at the cost of BnC and possible life shortening. Many of us are aware of that and thats why why come here and give you guys advice for free, so you can make your own informed decisions.
Charles Harris
My test levels have gone from 470ng/to to 550ng/dl since my Endo put me on Cabergoline to bring down my excess prolactin, before I was depressed, brain fog, couldn't concentrate and got no enjoyment from life, now I feel great except my sex drive is still weak, I have a feeling if I can get them up further to the average for a 25 year old my sex drive will come back, I think the next step is HCG which sounds amazing and I've read of people having success with it
Anyone tried HCG alone with low normal test levels? every other hormone I've tested is in range so I can't really see any reason is still kinda low
Carter Ward
>i-i'm not addicted I swear!
Zachary Sanchez
I guarantee you will get more gains from seven 3.4 week cycles than one 23.8 week cycle. Bill Roberts spoke about this and to paraphrase he said that it's just simply how human biology works, the body grows better with time between growth spurts. He said he doesn't know why exactly it's the case, it's not due to receptors being desensitized.
Aiden Ramirez
Solidb8/10, nearly went for it.
Xavier Foster
Get bloods and dial it in There's no formula for this shit
That's retarded. If you're so dead set on using hcg, get on trt first.
Gabriel James
Why is it retarded? Seems like it increases test without the risks of infertility from TRT and people have got good results from it, TRT seems a bit drastic for a 25 yo, I don't even know if he'll prescribe me it but from what I've read it's the next step in treatment before TRT
Jordan Butler
what checkmarks should i set for myself before using steroids Obviously right now i dont have "Training age" yet but i am considering it in future, and even then low dose context: training for powerlifting >26yo >200lbs >6'2 >2.5 years training from couch potato mode >500lbs deadlift >405lbs squat Lifts are obviously slowing down. I was thinking that i should reach around 6plate DL and 5 plate squat for 1RM Which should be doable (i hope) before i become 30years old
I dont have any exceptional genetics minus really long arms for deadlifting I actually look like shit aesthetics wise, altough i have decent shoulder / waist ratio
Gavin Turner
>relationships Because it will ruin them. Without a doubt. Sooner or later, that tren run will completely corrupt your relationship and there's no going back.
Jackson Torres
You can have high FSH and LH levels without having high test levels. All you'd be doing really is desensitizing your receptors for some time really.
Julian Morgan
>possible life shortening. >possible
Ian Martin
No one but you can decide when It will always be either too early or too late kek, as long as you’ve got the basics down and have made solid progress for a while hop on imo
My relationship is better on tren, worse on masteron lmao
You would need like a whole syringe of air to create an air embolism. That's what they tell us in uni. t. Nursing student
Carson Harris
>die on my feet, live on my knees >flame that burns twice yadda yadda
Old pros are living to decent 70s and 80s and didn’t use the ancillaries, peptides and info we have now As long as your don’t blast your kidneys through your urethra etc you should see your grandkids no problem
Joseph Sanchez
i dont think it would be worth it atm considering i might have tendency for gyno and acne and my hairline is justed as it is
so i want to wait little bit longer Especially considering i still have gains on table
Henry Sullivan
>>die on my feet, live on my knees >>flame that burns twice yadda yadda lmao if this is the hill you want to die on then power to you, but i'm laffin
Except I'm not really laughing, because I think it's a shame that you have no aspirations for your life outside of this. But I can't help you.
>Old pros are living to decent 70s and 80s except for the ones who are dead i guess
Gavin Jones
No lol, bro this is exactly it. You've spoiled your girls with the tren mindset. Now when you go back to being a normie at 5000ng/dl test they're gonna be like "lol what happened to you.... did you get ..... smaller???" LOL. It's like women fucking big dudes can never go back to regular dudes, once they got a taste.
It's over bro, you've ruined her. Tainted by the tren.
But fr, I don't even see bullshit from my girl on tren. She can do no wrong
LH and FSH is in range, still read a couple of stories about these guys having results one being going from 350 to 750 while taking less than what was prescribed for him, supposedly makes your dick and balls bigger too and also works almost instantly, worth a try anyway before TRT, Google HCG monotherapy if you want to look it up
Mason Martinez
>supposedly makes your dick and balls bigger too and also works almost instantly In my experience from running it for a while some time ago, not really. There's almost no difference between my nut size on and off HCG, blast or no. Of course they aren't as big as they were off gear, but they haven't changed really changed size since hopping on. The only thing they do is get smaller if I let my e2 get high, for which I just pop an AI and they're back to what they were.
Mason Baker
What's up with the autistic sperging about cycle length? Yeah, you're probably going to gain more off two cycles than one that is roughly equivalent in length. So what? Is this controversial or something?
Does your planet fitness have free weights? Mine has dumbbells but they only go to 75 lbs kek.
Samuel Long
>What aspirations do you want me to have exactly user? That's up to you.
I'm just depressed that this is the best that you can come up with, I guess. It's fine, there's nothing wrong with it, I'm sure you're happy. I'm just sad that you are capable of being happy with this.
To put it another way, elite athletes always talk about how much they have to sacrifice and I find it sad that there are people who think that the rewards of elite sport are worth sacrificing for. Bodybuilding takes that further because it's a joke of a sport and the sacrifices are so much greater.
Please file your tips fedora comments with my assistant.
Tyler Williams
Yeah, it goes up to 75lbs only as well lmao. Which is why I go to it after I finish up in my main gym, which in comparison has nothing except free weights.
you just use PF for free tanning then? I was paying $40 a month for a gym and another $30 for tanning so PF saved me $60 a month
have to bench on the smith machine though which blows
Kevin Clark
>i personally would rather run 2 x 8week short esters than 1 x 16 week long But if you're frontloading the long ester like a chad, the ester doesn't matter. That being said 2x 8 week is still better than 1x 16 week.
Nolan Powell
Need to get on this train for summer.
It passes the time, its a hobby. Does it come with potential several life consequences? Yes but so do a lot of lifestyle choices and hobbies., I'd take roiding over my codeine/lean addiction if i could kek.
I already have everything user, i'm nearly 27, have a career, my own house, car, 4 cats, missus of 4 years, prob have a few kids next year or two. I live in one of the nicest areas of England, i'm educated to a fair standard and i have no hereditary diseases.
I'm just not under the illusion I will cure cancer, solver world hunger or anything of significance. If my posting here helps a few people, get a few nice kids and develop a decent physique what else can I ask for from life? Seems pretty comfy.
If your aspirations are above these then go for it user, I wish you the best :)
Nah, I use it because I like the variety of machines my local one has to offer. Makes isolation exercises a whole lot easier. So, I just have the $10 membership, the other gym costs $39.
I go to a dedicated tanning salon, a bit expensive but from what I've seen (including my PF) the cheaper the tanning is in my area (in general with everything) the nastier and more unkempt it is.
Brandon Wright
>not frontloading short ester for bants NGMI
Knowing the circles he runs in it will be test/tren/mast/var Also being an uber manlet helps, iirc he's like 5'2 or 5'4
Christopher Morris
Trannies going full force 24/7 trying to push a fitness to homosexual pipeline narrative
Luke Edwards
the IFBB got started as a gay mans magazine
Luis Morales
Any idea about dosages Uzome is running? Would you say that 500mg tren/test/mast per week and 50mg var would be enough??
Lincoln Powell
>people who think they're gonna look like someone else by copying their gear usage turbo yikes
Aiden Johnson
Something like that or a slightly different ratio. 250 test/500/500 etc + Var
Tbf he has gotten quite bulky and bloofy before so i wouldnt be surprised if he mixes it up with a little test + npp off season occasionally.
Thomas Gutierrez
50/50 Nobody will look like him because genetics/training etc But there is definetly a difference in how you can look off/on season depending on what you run. Hit it hard on Test/nandrolone/HGH and you won't look the same in 16 weeks as you wouldve on low test/mast/tren etc
I'm assuming user is going under the thinking of the latter.
Jordan Carter
I guarantee you will get more gains from three 7 week cycles than two 10.5 week cycle. Bill Roberts spoke about this and to paraphrase he said that it's just simply how human biology works, the body grows better with time between growth spurts. He said he doesn't know why exactly it's the case, it's not due to receptors being desensitized.
Connor Torres
Hcg will still suppress your htpa. No more drastic than actually undertaking trt. Also, do trt yourself. So many doctors are completely clueless and will do something like 1g test u / 12 weeks or clomid 'therapy'
David Powell
This indeed.People are still repeating the same retarded questions
