Phenibut

>1g and a beer
wew lad i've heard horror stories from mixing this with alcohol

based, tyvm

it just magnifies the effect of alcohol

Once I took like 3g of phenibut at about 2:00 PM and at 9:00 PM I started drinking. I got really fucked up after 4 beers. Like, really fucked up

honestly i've thought about using some phenibut so I don't have to drink as much to get fucked up. The alcohol is like x2 or x3 as effective

My experience isn't glowing like some stories on the internet but the shit really works, it just feels easier to be me, I guess. Like I'm still a bit of a sperg on it but it doesn't bother me and because of that it doesn't seem to bother other people, I guess because I have a relaxed, comfortable disposition on it regardless of the spaghetti coming out of my mouth. Music is especially good on it, and after a couple of hours I literally feel this kind of feeling like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders, hard to describe but its like gravity is less powerful or something. Don't take too much user, less really is more.

Those doses are kinda huge user, maybe thats why you get a bad hangover.

if you don't know how to use it some personal rules that worked for me:

1. Consume on fasted stomach. I've had shitty results eating then waiting 2 hours to take it. Best results = take it after waking up and even then don't eat for 2 hours

2. Always consume with caffeine. You'll notice you get drowsy if the caffeine starts to fade. I take 200mg every 2 hours on it, and if it's prior to an event, take the caffeine approximately 30 minutes beforehand

3. Based on my experience, it peaks 4 hours after consumption. You gotta learn to time this shit. If my presentation is at 5:00 i'll take it at about 1:30. Note that it lasts way after the peak, hours 3 and 5 are also pretty strong

Don't take it days in a row, make sure your days on it are productive and you get as much as you can out of it. When im on it i'll purposefully seek social engagements or do things im supposed to be doing because everything feels good

OP here, looks like i'll be taking about 500mg as a test run, then i'll go from there

i have to make sure to buy a scale this weekend (yes i know we're on Jow Forums and i probably should've already bought one but now this is a good excuse)

placebo

The effects are subtle enough that a lot of people genuinely think it does nothing, but it puts you in a great mood.
Phenibut is paradoxical. At lower dosages it mimics the effects of stimulants. Increasing the dosage will make it act more of a depressant, like a pseudo xanax.
The threshold for this switch in effects is significantly different from person to person, and based mostly on weight and tolerance.
For your first time, I suggest taking 1.5g in the morning first thing on an empty stomach, then having like 200 mg caffeine (based on caffeine tolerance) about an hour later. Do not eat anything for about 2 hours after taking the phenibut so that the effects are most pronounced.
From there it’s all about finding the sweet dosage for you, based on what you want to do.
If you’re going for a job interview/date/anything that requires you to have an easygoing attitude to succeed, keep the dosage low and have some caffeine.
If you’re going to party and get trashed, take more (>2g) and avoid alcohol. I don’t even drink at parties anymore but still have an incredible time just by taking 3.5g like 4 hours before the party.

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You retard its a gaba receptor agonist. And for the anons who use it, please don't consume alcohol on it. People have ended up in the hospital because they take big doses and drink. Like the other guy said. Less is more.

Yeah, most of the things I read were just "don't drink as much as you usually would", not an absolute restriction.
Honestly the only review of it I really took seriously was one where a guy said he'd been using it to self-medicate for social anxiety for a few years.
Most of the other ones were like "well I took 5g and nothing was happening after 30 minutes so I took another 6g, shotgunned can of monster, chased it with half a fifth of gin, blew some coke up my asshole, and then some datura as well to take the edge off and I blacked out and felt like so much shit the next morning".
Plenty of the more boring accounts mention drinking and/or mixing other drugs like a responsible adult and they had a fine time.

where are you buying it from? i want to try

Not op but im going to take 4 pills of kraton tmw and then phenibut on saturday. Is this okay???

Also what kind of bars or clubs or anywhere do old women like pic related hang out?

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seedy bars, the kind that have been in your town forever but you never really hear about people going to

this guy fucks milfs

I have taken it about 6-7 times now, and it definitely works. I have tried smaller doses at around 500mg but it seems to be best (for me at least) at around 1,5mg and I weigh 85kg.

I took it before a presentation on Monday and it went so incredibly well in the sense that my anxiety disappeared, I had no fears portraying my opinions etc. and said everything with a clear voice. No fear, and I was calm and focused. It was pretty great.

As other people have mentioned earlier, be careful with alcohol when taking this, especially at higher doses above 1g. I took about 2g before a party 2 months ago, and drank quite a bit. I got so fucked up, puking for like 2 hours straight, it was awful. The next day I felt like complete shit, and I have a high tolerance to alcohol normally. Be safe frens!

Zach Attack Supplements is the only retailer that will let you order with PayPal because (((they))) don't like it when people find substituties for (((medication))). I'm getting quite concerned though now because my shipment has been sitting at the same USPS facility in NC for two days.

OP here, got mine from LiftMode. it's legal here in the US

Holy shit theres one litterally down my main street that my peers from school would joke around about but never actually going in. I think its a drag show though. Whatever that means but i have seen older women dressed going in. I might pass by if i dont score that night.
Curious though, older women go to bars/clubs only for dick right? Or what?

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>>Curious though, older women go to bars/clubs only for dick right? Or what?

come on man you cant go in with that energy, these bitches wanna feel like theyre good enough to bag a young stud, you can't just give the game away like that.

>I think its a drag show though. Whatever that means but i have seen older women dressed going in

weak b8

where do you buy this shit

internet

if its legal in your country there are plenty of places online

Is it legal in the US ? any recommendations?

>Is it legal in the US ?
OP here. yes.

if you took a minute to read the thread, you'll say that I said that i had bought it from liftmode. it'll arrive next week.

:^)

Thanks OP completely overlooked that

we're all gonna make it brah

It's effective if you have some anxiety issues. will make you more confident. sex is great on it. you can combine it with alcohol but dont drink too much. max 5 beers.

I've got some phenibut hcl caps. I take 1000mg in the morning with my preworkout. Seems like it keeps me in a good mood throughout the day. If I take more than 1250mg I get a brief spell of pretty bad nausea when I'm coming down. Took 2000mg once, felt great all day, slept excellent, but in the morning I had these waves of stomach churning. Almost yacked on myself while driving, I had to pull over. Proceed with caution, but FWIW I like it.

you take this shit daily?

tried up to 2g, felt nothing

Don't take it daily. Tolerance builds really quick and addiction hits you like a car coming out of nowhere.

It's not bad user.
First few times I tried it I felt nothing. Bought a micro scales and started dosing at 2g.
Its good but not all its hyped up to be
If you want a really good sleep I suggest take it before bed. I took 2g before bed and woke up absolutely amazing and in top form

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OP here, i sincerely appreciate all the replies so far

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This is very true, Phen is the thinking man's drug, with appropriate timing and when mixed with caffeine you can use it for study or for godmode social ability, or on it's own for amazing HGH sleep.
Why people waste it as a "party drug" is beyond me

All adverse affects considered, it's still infinitely better than anything from the pharmajew.

Yeah, forgot to mention take regular breaks to address tolerance issues. Did notice a bit of depression creeping in after stopping cold turkey, but quickly returned to normal. Being a little self aware probably helped. Didn't really notice any "withdrawal symptoms" apart from just being a little flat for a couple of days, but then again I'm not really taking a heroic dose. Might also be worth mentioning that I have a hell of a caffeine addiction. I'm talking 4+ double shot bean-Jews per day.

GET READY TO RIDE THE TIGER

>not getting HCL, you dun goofed

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my friend recommended F.A.A. she's huge on nootropics and has done it countless times

this shit did not do anything for me.
took the pill form. highest i tried was 2g

I've tried both and haven't felt anything at 2gs

Well I was recommended HCL by a friend and its always worked well for me. I prefer the granules as its easier to put into capsules, but liftmode definitely makes the highest quality shit. Maybe Ill try FAA next time and see if I notice a difference, but as someone whos tried a lot of drugs its probably my favorite overall.

Just get a scale and start with like 1 gram and see how that affects you, then increase dosage .5g's as needed. and dont take it too often. You can get your own pill press for relatively cheap too. Dont mix with alcohol, takes a few hours to kick in, and you will crash super hard on the comedown and literally start nodding out until you fall asleep so be prepared for that.

I just took 4 grams 1 hour and 15 mins ago on a full stomach so Im still waiting for it to kick in.

nice man. im thinking of dissolving it in a bit of water and just taking it all at once. im going to buy a scale this weekend.

People like you is why shit gets banned. Fix your fucking life instead of using drugs. Drugs like this should only be used for special occasions. Do you even realize what you're doing to your brain?

I don't understand how some people are so sensitive to the substance. I don't really start to feel it unless I take 4-5 grams. Anything less and the feeling is negligible. But the sleep thing is no joke. When it hits, it fucking hits. I slept for roughly 12 hrs that night. Would dose higher but I'm kind of afraid to hit doses that high.

Mine comes in caps, just chugging it with water should be absolutely fine

>fix your life
What the fuck is wrong with my life, retard? I'm a qualified electrical inspector with a sweet gig and my net worth is ~1milly. I hit the gym 6 times a week, and sometimes I like to take phenibut, not because I'm trying to escape some NEET virgin purgatory, but because I like to take some phenibut now and then. How about not telling other people how to live, fuckface?

If you pop like 18 of them you'll get a ridiculous high

You do realise it was developed as an anti depressant with the instruction to take it every day, right?
>taking drugs how they were intended is wrong, you should only be using them to get buzzed and party
Fuck off, retard

Yeah you're right. I'll see you someday in a clinic user :)

No you won't, I'm going to die in a motorcycle accident.

how does this compare to kratom?

while it's somewhat surprising that motorcycles are still legal, things like ephedrine, yohimbe and such like that are okay for most people in sane quantities but become banned or regulated when retards think its a wonderful idea to overdo it and kill themselves. Can see it now though, "boomer who died in motor cycle accident was hopped up on phenibut, learn how this drug is a danger to your teenager"

300mg each?

>implying they will be able do a drug screen on my liquefied remains

Yeah bro take phenibut everyday itll cure depression ! Bro just micro dose every day you wont become addicted in the long run!
when did I indicate special occasion as parties ? Nice strawman idiot. I have diagnose general anxiety and mild agoraphobia. Drugs are use to treat not fix the issue
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5952553/

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Idk the dosage, friend bought like a bottle of 180 pills from some nootropics website and we took a bunch

Nice.

Absolutely not. They wouldn't make it a controlled substance in some unfortunate countries if it weren't doing something.

Exactly the issue. Its okay to take these things but a lack of self control is why the government even feels a need to regulate it. Look at the article I posted. What's so hard about being responsible instead of retarded

Not at all stupid

im so glad i dont give a shit about sex anymore. god bless you poor idiots that agonize over these creatures

I bought it because I have had some really bad anxiety issues crop up the past few years. Shit is dirt cheap.

My doseage at the beginning was about .5 g's and now whenever I take it I do around 1g. You don't have any noticeable effects. It's not a stimulant like adderall or cocaine like some people think going into it. There's no mild euphoria or anything like that either.

What I did notice was that I just feel marginally less inhibited and feel much more level.

My anxiety causes me to have problems talking to people, getting flushed easily and getting panic attacks randomly in social situations.

I take phenibut before meeting people or going out on dates and it really does help you deal with it better. Completely clear headed and even realize when I'm going into situations that are normally stressful but I don't seem to have the same physiological responses that I have without it and have a general smoother feeling of well being.

Probably partially placebo but it works well for me when I take it.

I would be careful messing with it though because from what I've read online phenibut builds up tolerance quickly and dependency faster. Withdrawal symptoms can be really bad.

It's worth a try though, its like 30 dollars for 100 grams and its legal.

Try it out for yourself.

For those who have tried both FAA and HCL, does it taste any different.
I've only ever bought FAA, and I like it, because the poweder if very fine and it has no taste.

im of the belief that drugs are illegal simply because people are incapable of controlling themselves or using things in moderation without being told 'no' like a child. you see a lot of retards on r*ddit saying people should be allowed to do whatever they want to their own body as long as it doesn't bother other people, but that's extremely optimistic and naive thinking. people on opiates don't seek help because they're scared of the law, they dont seek help because they want to stay high. tweakers screaming on the street and breaking/stealing shit aren't concerned with whether its legal or not, they aren't able to control themselves.

I don't take it every day, just some mornings when I go to the gym
>It'll cure depression
I mean, that's literally what it was marketed for, but I don't have any kind of depressive disorder.
>you wont become addicted in the long run!
See the post I made above about tolerance breaks
>I have diagnose general anxiety and mild agoraphobia.
Right, so the one with mental issues here is YOU.
>when did I indicate special occasion as parties ?
What fucking special occasions DO you mean, then? Gonna crank a big dose of phenibut for your grandad's wake or something?

I got some once. I dosed in between 3.5 to 5 grams at a time on an empty stomach and felt fuckin NICE. It gave me the shits a couple times so better to do it at home. Do one day on three days off and you’ll have no problems. Enjoy!

One drug that I don't mind being illegal is meth. That never does anything good for anyone, and it's destroyed countless lives.

I tried 250mg and thought I felt something that was two weeks ago though kind of nervous to try 500 and beyond at this point since reading about 2g a day tards is creepy to me.

Do use too much, the next day you will feel like shit after you use it.

HCL takes like sour candy but apparently its bad for your teeth, I just put it into my own capsules now.

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I used to be a legit alcoholic and 4 beers was my limit if I was on phenibut. that felt as strong as 16.

I think you mean "Don't use it too much," and I would concur.
Also, don't take it multiple days in a row.
After you take a dose, wait 48 hours before taking another dose to let your body reset itself.

That means if you take it on Monday at 8am, you force yourself to wait until Wednesday before you even think about taking it again. If you do this, you will never feel withdrawal.

In that case, I'm sticking with FAA. Thanks for the info.

Meth and heroin. At least on coke you feel like doing things and can typically function in day to day tasks.

Agreed.

Special occasions is simply sparingly when you're doing something like job meetings under small dosages. Read the article.

first experience took like 400mg, felt nothing

started taking like 1g and that was pretty fun, I think the first couple times I was a bit more social.. but quickly wanted to take more like 2g or whatever, also I liked fapping on it and sleeping on it

I blew through a couple 100g bags pretty quickly and decided I better lay off, withdrawals were just a bit of insomnia and irritable

a while later I got back on it and I basically stopped measuring it and just gulped down spoonfuls every morning and I tried not to do it every day but I was telling myself that I had to, I started nodding off at work like a heroin user and the magic of it was way gone, and when I did finally quit the withdrawals were fucking crazy and I ended up having to buy all this GABA-related stuff to help get through it

ah, maybe that's how I ended up with 17 cavities last year (aged 30)

never had a problem with dental hygiene in my life then bam

here

i take it twice a week before bed after deadlift days. other times when I need to have a normie type a personality. don't do it more than twice a week and stay away from alcohol. .5 - 1.5g is plenty.

anyone from UK bought this? it's fucking illegal over here. Am i going to get arrested for this shit?

Cope. Sex is literally what makes humanity tick.

sex for reproduction is literally what makes humanity tick, meaningless sex for no reason is literally going to be the end of us all

>You don't have any noticeable effects.
Wrong and
>There's no mild euphoria or anything like that either.
wrong.

Yep, just look at this retard >a while later I got back on it and I basically stopped measuring it and just gulped down spoonfuls every morning and I tried not to do it every day but I was telling myself that I had to, I started nodding off at work like a heroin user and the magic of it was way gone, and when I did finally quit the withdrawals were fucking crazy and I ended up having to buy all this GABA-related stuff to help get through it

I just read the article on HCL vs FAA and thats what it said...

Be careful. I got high liver tests with normal dosages

someone else already said it but: Cope