What advantages are there to being muscular during a fight?

I mean, if a person who is 300lb pounds of muscle gets hit by the same truck that hits someone who is 100 lbs soaking wet its obviously going to hurt them both. A hard or well placed punch can knock anybody out, but if you are bigger it is significantly easier to apply more force with less effort

You can hit harder than the untrained person and maybe have a better chance at breaking someone's guard or knocking them off balance. Really it goes like this:

(Muscular + fighting skills) > (Fighting Skills) > (Muscular + No fighting Skills)

Assuming that the two people fighting aren't too different size wise, like 50lbs+ difference.

> I lost a fight in 1/4 finals of the regional tournament, at -64kg (was 19 at the time).
> Was pretty bummed. The weight cut, pression, and the exams in law school just tired me.
> I decided to take some time off, and my coach agreed.
> I took 3 or 4 months off, at the end of the season. It was like may/june or something.

> All I did was calesthenics, eating right, regaining my weigh, and jiujitsu/wrestling 3 times a week during the end of the spring and whole summer.

> I came back to the boxing club in august/september, weighting 70+kg.

> Everybody and every sparing partner was like : damn, you are better now. Harder to spar against.
> MFW I just gained 6+ kg of muscle, nothing else, nothing more. No technique whatsoever (except sick takedowns, but whatever).

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Partly agree with being tougher to knock out. The only thing that will have less of an impact is body shots, you'll be less likely to get dropped by them. A good punch to your jaw will flatten you whatever weight you are.

You can lean and bully people more at higher weights but as user said you do lose stamina, quite a lot.

For me I hit less hard at 75kg+ compared to 68-75kg. Just lost that snap to them

Yes and no, there is like a diminishing return.
If you weight 60kg, and you start weighing 70, you will gain more resilience to KO, when you go to 80kg you will gain but less, etc etc etc.

Plus, in higher weight categories, KO are easier.

more mass to stab or use a stun gun on

advantage for lifters? intimidating normies who think gym = being a good fighter

I found her cousin.

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Well, apart from whats already been said, intimidation is probably more important a factor than being able to hit harder. Has potential to end fights before they start. I guess thats useful if you dont want to learn how to fight, or if you are really bad at it.

Being bigger and stronger is an advantage in a fight, this is not a question, unless you're arguing with ebery single combat sport with weight classes. Knowing how to fight is also important, the two multiply off each other

i thouhgt her thighs were her butt at first

Gives you more power, and makes you harder to take down and take out. It also makes you more resistant, at the cost of losing endurance and often speed

If you whip your top off when it looks like a fight is going to start and you look like Saitama, there's a good chance the fight won't happen.

>Plus, in higher weight categories, KO are easier
That's what I imagined, because everyone punches hard as fuck and you can't train yourself to not get knocked out by a knuckle delivering 600 pounds into your temple

Easier to throw people
Can muscle out of things
More stamina
Etc

But that sums it up, you don't have to be as strong as someone to beat them

Intimidation factor is real. if someone is fighting scared, they're dead in the water.

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A disposable thot

You can grab someone and easily ragdoll them, then beat them into submission.

Hey hey, she's not disposable.

Plastic goes in recycling

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Why do you lost stamina by being jacked
Never see any Usain Bolt motherfucker being jacked, true, but why I don't understand
The added strenght in your leg and arm should be worth

just be big bro
youtube.com/watch?v=Aaehn1aY8Ig

You are the first and only person on Jow Forums to ever have that thought.

Where do you find sparring partners. I ask people in my gym to friendly spar and they think I am gay

Your body takes up more energy to move your muscles

what fight? hitting 30 this year not a single fight in my life, also can do 2xbw dl 1.5xbw bench

>more mass, therefore more energy to your strikes
>tougher to move around when grappling
>you'll endure more hits
These are some. You obviously need technique if you don't want to get your ass whooped. Also, don't fall for the "technique is all that matters, bro" meme. If you ever fight with someone considerably stronger or considerably weaker than you, you'll know that strenght and weight play a huge part in fighting

You might've missed the balance gains from focusing on wrestling. That shit helps my man

Because muscle tissue uses up a lot of oxygen. And Usain Bolt is decent sized. Muscle tissue will help for shorter sprints, but the oxygen it uses up hurts your endurance.

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I don't understand why we keep having these threads, this is the only answer it is completely obvious.

>If velocity is equal, the higher mass results in higher force, so your strikes will hurt more
>Being strong helps takedowns a lot. It helps every part of wrestling
>Small factor, but having a strong neck will make it much harder to knock you out.
>Having a more muscular torso makes you more resistant to body shots
Just a few thoughts.

(Muscular + fighting skills) > (Fighting Skills) > (Muscular + No fighting Skills) > (Nothing).

>does being stronger make me harder to kill?

You can actually hurt the other person

weight

This.
Most fights (60% I'd say) finish before they actually happen.

this thread again
how many fights do you faggots get in/anticipate getting in
the answer is zero
do you all live in shitty low rent nigger infested areas?
lift because it's a fun healthy hobby, if you're worried about defending yourself, carry a gun, or better yet, avoid dangerous situations outright and move to a white rural area where violent crime is basically nonexistent

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That’s fair enough man, but learn to greentext and cut the reddit spacing. Lurk moar

Mostly just strength.
And ignore all those cunts that say stuff like "LUL NO STAMINA XD" because if youre a strong but not fat gym goer, you will probably have very decent/good stamina anyways. Especially when you compare it to cunts who dont even work out.

Now if were going to compare it to people who do for instance boxing, yeah, their stamina will probably be a lot better than yours.

However strength and size is fucking important when it comes to fighting. Its the second thing i would invest in after technique and experience.
(Mostly just size as in height and reach - but if youre able to bench like 450lbs, then youre going to have decently big muscles anyways)

There is a reason why there are weight classes. Floyd is a fucking phenomenal boxer, great technique and strategies. However if he was to fight a larger opponent like Deontay Wilder, he would get OBLITERATED.

Even if we take a juicehead like Brock Lesnar with pretty poor technique to be honest, against someone like Khabib (insane technique), Brock would simply obliterate him because he is way too big.
We dont even have to go that far for it to be noticable.
Khabib fights at 155, and is one of the best technical fighters out there (Only bested by a couple of other fighters imo. Like Jon Jones and Daniel Cormier), and if Khabib were to fight someone in 170 class, for instance Kamaru Usman, i would put my money on Kamaru Usman.
Thats just ONE weight class above. If we go to light heavyweight, and we ignore the pound for pound best, someone like Alexander Gustafsson would also just obliterate him because his reach is so much better and his strength is just too great.

So technique+experience > size&strength.
But size&strength can counter balance the technique aspect to a certain degree.
Oh; and its also fun that those who say that size and strength doesnt matter, usually dont even do martial arts themselves...

anderson silva moved up to 170 to fight and had a few first round knockouts

Not just strength but also weight. But yeah, when you don't know what you are doing you will be thrown or knocked out

Why is this argument always with the assumption that the bigger man is also trained? Most people don't train to fight, and even if they do, most aren't trained well. Of course a juiced up heavyweight D1 wrestler will obliterate most people smaller than him, but guys his size with no fighting experience shouldn't beat a smaller guy with a lot of skill and experience. Anyone who does martial arts knows that. Untrained people don't know what to defend against, let alone how to.

No, and it's going to be ultra embarrassing when you get KTFO'd by someone 50lbs less of muscle because they have better footwork and better cardio than you (if they trained of course).

Here's the real life version...
(Concealed Carry Permit + Stand your Ground State) > (Muscular + fighting skills) > (Fighting Skills) > (Muscular + No fighting Skills) > (Nothing).

I'll be *possibly* injured, you'll be dead. Fighting isn't worth it.

>I'll be *possibly* injured, you'll be dead. Fighting isn't worth it.
I dunno man
I'm not that much of a pussy that I need an emergency lever to scalate all my confrontations to the lethal level

get mugged? I see it being handy, even good
killing someone because he is drunk and wants to bash/get bashed in the head?
waste of lives
its not the wild west anymore mate

>Plus, in higher weight categories, KO are easier.

That's because 55kg manlets can't hit as hard.

and 90% of fights end up on the ground so you need strength and conditioning

Then why do you assume that the tiny fuck is Demetrious Johnson?

And if you think someone like Brian Shaw or Eddie Hall are completely clueless, youre wrong. If we take some 135lbs guy who have wrestled for like 3 years, or some 135lbs kid whos boxed for 2 years, they would definitely get fucked over by Shaw or Hall, simply because these guys are monsters.

We cant just ASSUME that the tiny guy is some amateur or professional fighter. Very few people actually do train any sort of martial art in the grand scheme of things, and even less are actually good.
To top it off, if youre a boxer, youre not necessarily well rounded and good on the ground. Put some average boxing gym 135lbs kid VS Shaw or Hall and they will get overpowered in seconds. It doesnt take a genius to realize that you wanna bring a boxer to the ground.

And if were going to assume that neither of them are trained, and we got some Arnie in his prime VS some random 5'2 135lbs untrained person, Arnie would win 99% of the time.

>killing someone because he is drunk and wants to bash/get bashed in the head?
>waste of lives
>its not the wild west anymore mate
Listen to me you criminal subhuman mongrel filth. If you attempt to do me bodily harm you should be executed on the spot like the rapid dog you are.

>You are tougher to knock out, too.

Not necessarily. You can't change the chin you are born with.

the biggest one I can think of is having less stamina, also that thot looks retarded

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Does chin really matter? I thought it was a metaphor. I have a big chin, Will I be hard to knock out?

Moving up means that he was also 170 at the time. He wasn't smaller than his opponents.

yes and also neck muscles
what you want is the ability to absorb impact and reduce the amount of trauma your brain takes so a thicker skull and strong neck muscles is going to reduce the amount of force thats going to rattle your thinking jelly
the guy who said having more weight on you makes it harder for you to get knocked out is false because you can be thick everywhere but if you have a pencil neck you're going to get blasted regardless
gotta be able to support and protect the command center

Yeah I need to train my neck harder. A thick neck just looks good anyway. Pencil neck is a clear sign that someone lives in the gym but never plays sport or fights

shut up sperg

Haha there's probably some rich guy fucking her every night, cumming inside her, pissing in her mouth and doing whatever.

>those tits
>fake

spotted the virgin

Muscles don't really help with fighting. Abs won't protect you from a liver shot and neck gains won't protect you from being knocked out. Grappling is leverage and technique too.

I guess you can use grip and neck strength from wrestling, but aside from that, lifting or calis will not help you (unless you are extremely unfit and far below average strength everywhere maybe).

>what you want is the ability to absorb impact and reduce the amount of trauma your brain takes so a thicker skull and strong neck muscles is going to reduce the amount of force thats going to rattle your thinking jelly
No. That's broscience.

I'm not. I'm simply going by my experience which is that at 160 pounds with coming up to a decade of martial arts experience (striking and grappling), I've never not beat the big guys for their first six months at least. We get massive guys on plenty of juice and even then they are still being choked and beat up. I've never had anyone come in who could just use their strength to beat the simple techniques that they don't know how to defend against. Same was true when I did more striking. Of course, with a few more years the situation will be different, but even then not SO different as you might imagine.

The average guy is my height and weight, not nearly as athletic but still my size. That means the average guy can definitely beat a very big guy in a fight if he knows what he's doing.

Only if you have a glass jaw like arlovski

Would you rather be untrained and obese or untrained and muscular in a fight?

this You remind me of a friend that always carries around a knife. He is weak as shit and has no clue to fight, so that's his self defense plan. I'd like to see what he'd do if someone starts shit with him at a bar.

Your friend is basing his self-defence on fear alone, yes. Pretty stupid.

For it's like, i'll try to avoid a fight at all cost (as far as my proudness can allow) and if i finally snap, i'll let go of anything except my primal instinct of trying to take someone down.

Of course experience+technique > strength and leverages, but holy shit, stop pretending like being small and "agile" is better than being tall and strong.

Nowhere did i even claim that some smaller person with experience cant beat a larger opponent with zero experience.
This entire argument is just so stupid, because there is a reason why there are weight classes.

All i want from you is to answer this simple question right here:
One person is 5'7 at 170lbs, and the other person is 6'4 at 260lbs.
The 5'7 can bench about 250lbs, and deadlift about 450lbs.
6'4 can bench about 550lbs and deadlift about 700lbs.
They both did Muay Thai for 2 years, BJJ for 1 year and MMA for 2 years.
Who would you put your money on winning this fight?

>2019
>Fighting
Just use a gun ffs

arlovski actually some how got his chin back if you've watched his recent fights

people don't realize that strength is a technique
all the technique in the world doesn't matter if someone like hafthor is just gonna pick you up and throw you head first to the ground

Jesus, he was a 185er, and moved up to 205 sometimes. Comeon guys.

Strong leg muscles will enable you to run away quickly

Well, in my boxing gym. I live in France, but I suppose it is the same in every gym that trains competitors or something.
I friendly spar most of my boxing trainings. And I do a hard sparing like, every 15 days or something (harder sparring right, not "let's kill each other + brain damage sparring", that's for competitions).

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I don't go to reddit, i just space to make it more lisible. But okay for greentext.

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Perhaps you are right to an extent, since my legs got bigger, evidently (since I did only boxing).

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Me again : mea culpa, failed at replying to everyone.

I don't go to reddit, i just space to make it more lisible. But okay for greentext.

Perhaps you are right to an extent, since my legs got bigger, evidently (since I did only boxing).

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Yeah this is obvious. Recently started kickboxing a few weeks ago and I keep getting btfo by skinny guys. Holy shit I didn't realise the power gap between trained and untrained was so big. This motivates me to learn.

>they think I’m gay
Well?

im 6'3 220 so my technique in a fight is to grab them and side suplex them and win it on the ground. sometimes you gotta eat a punch or 2 getting inside.