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Boys I'm training for a half marathon and I'm not sure if I'm doing it properly. I'm new to running but been weightlifting for a few years, so had to start from scratch.

The half marathon is at the end of September (13 miles for those unsure).

I'm currently running twice a week, gradually increasing my distance. Last run I managed 6.2 miles (about 10km) in an hour but also nearly died. I'm doing it in the morning before breakfast in a fasted state.

I was going to just run 10km twice a week for a few weeks until I can beat it in a respectable time before increasing again.

What sort of distance should I be reliably running to complete a half marathon? Should I do my own half marathon a few weeks before the actual one just to see if I can do it?

Running is fucked.

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What pace are you suppose run Couch to 5k programmes at? Depending on where I look it disagrees on if you should jog or run.

Also, is there any way that I should match up my eating with my running? I like to eat all of my calories for the day in one sitting, usually early in the day, but I don't like to run when it's hot and busy, so I usually don't run until well after nightfall.

And wow, post-run fap is hard. All the blood is in your legs.

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>twice a week
Thats way too little training. Honestly, I was you I'd download the nike run club app and have it generate a plan for you. You can input the amount of time you want to run. I'd recommend at least 3 times a week, ideally 4.

I did think maybe it was too little, but then I thought 10k three times a week is too much on the joints surely?

Would being a shorter run (3 miles) once, then 6.2miles twice be less dumb?

Actually will download the app though thanks

Generally you want to have your long run not exceed an x amount of your weekly milage. I think it was around 25%? It's not the end of the world if you dont quite follow that rule, but you need some recovery/easy runs in there to balance stuf out.

Need to gradually increase mileage with dispersed taper weeks to help rest and recovery. Also need to run 3 to 4 times per week until event or race.

Proper shoes and running style are important to prevent injury.

Basic googling and YouTube will get you started. Eventually need to consult with a real coach so you prevent injury more than anything else.

Thanks lads, appreciate the input.

>Also need to run 3 to 4 times per week until event or race.
I'm gona step my shit up, I just hate having to wake up an hour earlier than usual.

Yes! Shorter + more frequent runs will be more beneficial than 2 x long run per week
You should consider running 3-4 times a week with one run at 10k+ (increase it by a mile or so every other week) and every other run at 3-4 miles

If you're young (20's or less) running large distances almost every day won't hurt you. My entire cross country team of 60ish boys ran over 5 miles approx. 5 days a week once we got past the first 2 weeks of training.

I'm not sure if this is optimal though. You may want to do alternating days, eg long run - short run - long run - etc.

Keep up with 10km for now, try for 3 times a week. A month from now go for 12km and then 15km, those are the ideal distances to do in training. Doing your own half marathon a month out from the race could be helpful but make sure you taper down the distance in the month before the race.
t. Leaf who has done multiple half marathons but can't be bothered to convert the distances to miles.

>Yes! Shorter + more frequent runs will be more beneficial than 2 x long run per week
>You should consider running 3-4 times a week with one run at 10k+ (increase it by a mile or so every other week) and every other run at 3-4 miles
Duly noted this sounds manageable thank you user.
Thank you based leaf poster

It's in september, he got time.

Adds one mile a week until you're at 10 miles, then focus on time. Perhaps you could try alternating between periods where you run faster than your average speed for a set time or distance and periods where you run normally.

how many days a week can you run?
>What sort of distance should I be reliably running to complete a half marathon?
youll want to train to 15 miles three weeks before the race

Seconding this. Friend who did a marathon shared his half marathon 12week plan with me and this is pretty much it: 2-3 runs at 3-4 miles each week plus a long run that gets longer or more intense each week.

I have Cooper test coming next autumn. What would be the best way to improve in my running? I was thinking about running on my rest days, so about 3 times a week. Also what can I do to shin splints after running to lower the pain?

Shin splits result from poor form.

Well, hopefully it doesn't occur anymore now that I've been researching the proper form. Last time I ran was a while back and just did what came naturally. Thx

Well if they do occur again, use the RICE method. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RICE_(medicine). As for the cooper test. Whats your current fitness level?

Hill repeats. Bonus is they'll also improve your form.
Do cross training to avoid shin splints, don't run through pain if you don't know what you're doing.

I'd say pretty average. I'm 5'10 and 160lbs, around 17% bodyfat. I've been exercising for 7months now and my lifts are: 88lbs OHP, 132lbs bench, 200lbs squat, 240lbs deadlift. (Never did any physical exercises so don't crucify me) Last time I ran was when I started going to the gym. My best time was 1,5 miles in 14 minutes, but it's probably worse now because I stopped for running for 4months.

I'll be looking more into those, thx for help :)

Newly-running user here.

Would say keep upping the distance each week (mile or so?) until you’re at at least 13 miles, maybe go up to 15, then try and focus on speed on slightly shorter runs (8-10 miles) once you’ve given yourself a good base.

Key is to not stop, if you have to stop you’re fucked. Focus on that first then speed

Went for my first full run ever this morning. Felt a bit of pain in my side but otherwise it went well

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well the good thing is you have time to prepare.

Google what a fartlek run is and what a tempo run is. Each week take four runs: 1 easy, 1 fartlek, 1 easy, 1 long. Next week switch the fartlek for a tempo. These workouts should progress each time you do them either by faster pace or longer distance for tempos, and either shorter recovery intervals, longer intensity intervals, or number of intensity intervals for fartlek.
If you want to know the logic behind this stuff look up jack daniels running formula. It's a complete book on training theory, easy to read. and he has a YouTube series as well.

i'm about halfway into couch to 5k. i wanted to introduce some entry level body-weight exercises in my routine by the time i'm done. would i be better off doing running before or after the BW exercises, also where do i best fit stretches into all of this, i see a lot of disagreement online on what kinds of stretchesbto do before or after running or exercising.

Ive never done stretches for any of my runs. Just walk towards your starting point and then do a small warming up before speed stuff or start off slow the first couple of minutes with long runs.

Op you can train with 1 long run a week if you're really lazy, you just can't expect to make huge speed gains, just endurance gains. Nike run app is good for getting fast though

any long term goals?

Whichever is harder for you, do that first. I always did bw before running so I wouldn't make sweat puddles on my floor.

I mostly wanna get into shape. I’ve been lifting and dieting, I’m at 219 now with a good bit of muscle on my legs but I also wanna get my endurance up. I have asthma do running has always been difficult but as I work out more I’ve gotten a little better and now I feel like it’s time to increase my endurance and speed as much as I can

A sub 60m 10k might be a reasonable goal for you then.

>used to run three times per week
>stopped before Winter
>now it's June and haven't gone even once since November

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>youre a shithead
>thats what you are a fucking shithead

whats stopping you?

anyone have some basic warmup routines for lower back? i can't go 2 runs without waking up with major pains after running

Why would you fap after running?

Chest forward and shoulders back during the run. Thats 90% of your problem solved.

Everyone says I should do strength training for running but no one actually tells me what to do

What excercises should I be doing?

Walking lunges are good for improving your hills. Work up to a mile of lunges.

core exercises ie stomach, back, hip flex and extensions, glutes

I'm asking myself that same question.

Do shoes that correct probation work or is it snake oil? Need to get new shoes

>is it snake oil
No. If you're serious about running go to an actual running store and let them watch you run on a treadmill and get set up with the right shoes.

>a mile of lunges
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Run hills

They work. Im a neutral runner so I dont saw the need to get fitted, but it's great advice for people who run slightly differently.

The goal is to increase strength and stability in your legs, hips, and core. Any strength program featuring major compound lifts should be sufficient.

I'd also suggest adding some shoulder and external rotation work. Keeping your shoulders back and relaxed and your arms active is surprisingly important for good running form, especially when things get tough and you really need rhythm to pull you through.

Running hills? Does that actually help?

The guy at the running store basically nut down his leg at my natural running form and foot strike. Would not shut up about how perfect it was.

Is this my chance? Can one "make it" from running alone?

It's the single best intensity training for running.

It also sucks ass.

lol no I run 60 mpw and I have never been injured

The only time I ever injured myself was when I was still doing about four miles a week in half mile increments.

Depends. It will definitely injure you because you havent been conditioned to run long distances yet. Build it up slowly. Ill also recommend using the NRC app. It's pretty nice and free.

It's very good.

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Hey /run/ I'm having a very hard time coping with being injured. I haven't been able to run at all since my last 50 mile race in April and I just don't know what to do. Any tips for getting through this?

What nature of injury, my man

can you swim or ride a bike?

Not that guy but how does bicycling help? When I tried out a bike recently it was easy because the bike did all the work

well you need to do some serious distance to have a similar level of workout.

if you're capable of running a 50 mile race i don't think you need any tips which makes me think you're bullshitting

How much distance?

Well, if you're running ultramarathons, I'd guess somewhere in the 100 miles+ range

How to push through lactic acid pain bros?

Quiet thread.

Seriously though, am I suppose to run or jog in C25k?

Run and jog are completely arbitrary terms. As for speed. It depends.

Fine. Jog or sprint?

You're not gonna sprint a 5k dude. Sprinting speed speed is relative, so it differs from person to person. 5k is aerobic, a sprint is anaerobic. Can you already complete a 5k? If not, a couch25k program might be good for you.

I've literally just finished my first run.

I've been lifting for a few months now, my lifts have been going up steadily but I still have body fat to lose. The only "cardio" I ever did was a 5 minute jog at the beginning of every work out.

Let's hope cardio and lifting will bring good things

Are you completely fucking retarded? Follow the reply chain.

Okay, fuck off then

Somebody posted a beginner sprinting workout made by a professional coach a long time ago on Jow Forums.You guys don't happen to have it do you?

Not entirely sure, I get pains on the outside of my foot when I run for more than 5 minute

I can yeah, I've been trying to bike a lot but it takes a lot of time to get something real out of itI'm not, but I can see why you would think that. Honestly anyone that can run a marathon can probably run a 50 miler, you just go slower

lmao jog run sprint are all terms that's effort/speed dependent i dont even know why you're calling the dude retarded when you're retarded
a fat fuck "sprinting" a 5 min mile pace is someone elses "running" pace and someones 7 min mile "running" pace is someones "jogging" pace
that being said the C25K is supposed to be a running program so put in a running effort

Look at the Hall Higdon plan. It's pretty good for looking for an outline. I used it for my first full and it went well.

You don't need to run the distance before. Most plans max out around 10 miles before the race. If you build the base miles you'll be fine.

Why can't you run? Injury?

Due to shin pain I'm not gonna run for a bit. I tried rowing today for 20 minutes, but I barely broke a sweat. Is there something I'm doing wrong?

>attempt Couch to 5k day one
>run too fast
>fail barely past the halfway point
>struggle home
>get awesome runner's high that lasts for nearly an our, on par with a good orgasm
>runner's high wipes out all shame from failure
>two days later, try again
>run slower
>pass
>fell mild joy from success
>get home no trouble
>no runner's high
Why is life so cruel?

>tfw never had a runner's high
Im pretty much dead emotionally, so Im sure something is broken. Still I like running a lot.

Why do i run like this?

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too much anime

My fucking knees hurt you assholes told me I would be fine

Why the fuck does my quads itch when I run

You aerodynamic

bad form
itch? thats...odd

I’m also interested in this

Run with better form with better shoes and don't be fat

It's not normal?
Oh no

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In terms of what? Rowing or running? Learn to ask questions properly. We’re not mind readers you cunt.

The inside of my thighs itch when I jog. Have no idea what it is

That's what I'm talking about

I think it’s just my hairy legs getting slightly irritated by being brushed by my shorts. I mean I hope that’s what it is

I’m not fat how do you guys know I have bad form. I could have the best form you guys are assholes

I'm calling him retarded because I've already said that I'm on C25K. You're right that jog and sprint are relative terms, but I'm obviously talking about what's a jog/sprint for me and not in some weird objective sense.

Do you understand the distinction between cumming and orgasm? Do you know what an orgasm feels like? You might just be looking for the wrong thing.

Rowing

No i dont even watch anime. Just my natural stance

when did you realize that this running style actually is superior to any other running style. What the hell my knee pain is gone, just touch the ground as little as possible with your heels.
You even get huge calves

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How the fuck was I supposed to know that you ass?

more on this shit, it was life changing for me.

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look at this, check the gazelle style out.