>lifting since age 14 >still virgin at age 25 >never held a girls hand >never had a relationship or platonic crush with a girl >never slept in same bed as a girl >never dated ever
Not even for lack of trying, I've kissed girls before. Also fingered a girl once. Also had the same girl suck my flaccid penis (couldn't get hard).
I'm 6'0 210lbs and I roid so don't think so, I definitely look big in clothes.
>3. You have zero social skills True
Chase Richardson
Gotta take what you want user. Be more assertive. I can't count how many times I would have gotten laid had i just made a move instead of being a pussy.
Owen Scott
Nigga you uggly lmao at your life
Elijah Nelson
I’ll fuck you if that helps - but I’m hairy.
Ethan Morris
you have to talk to girls, idiot.
for the *real* incels on this planet... the guys who have actually asked girls out and they're just too ugly/pathetic/weird for girls to respond AND they have lowered their expectations... I feel sorry for those guys.
However, it's my belief that 9/10 "incels" you find on the internet are simply losers who don't try.
You have to try. OP says he's trying. Yet look at what you posted... some chick's ass and feet pics. You're still on Jow Forums. You're obviously still jacking off to porn. How about you take a month off from all of that shit and improve your life.
God damn, I'm sick of all your shit. FUCK OFF TO r9k if you continue to be like this.
Ryder Lopez
Post body
Grayson Carter
That is my fetish
Jonathan Anderson
This^ 1000% this. Man the fuck up OP and learn how to overcome your autism. Also, you’re probably not as ugly as you think
Adrian Garcia
>Implying porn is for jacking off to It's for keeping your dick hard while jelqing, n00b
Isaiah Cooper
So now you know what you need to fix. Go looksmax and get social gains. We're all gonna have sex, brah.
Read "The Book of Pook". It's like 5 bucks on amazon. Changed my life and perspective on lifting, sex, and women.
If you suck at bantering, you can practice this method anywhere to get better:
1- Observe a lady and pick up as many details about her and what she's doing. The key here is to leave no detail unseen. Are her nails painted? Is she smiling? Is she wearing high heels or flats? Take all the boring shit you see and make a list. If you learn by writing, carry around a notebook, get a good look at a girl, then write down as many things as you can remember in one glance. You can look at sample dating profiles to practice at home (or just random pictures).
2- Infer something from any details you get about her, the more ridiculous or funny the better. How will you know you're doing it right? You'll be laughing and thinking its funny. You don't have to be completely factual when you infer either, you can always infer something that is the opposite of the obvious.
3- Make a joke based on what you saw. Once you get good at doing this, it works for opening women, picking up the conversation when things get boring, or for making light of things you want to do to her (like fuck her).
It takes a lot of the pressure out of talking to women because if they don't laugh, you know right away your sense of humor and hers ain't the same and you can NEXT her without remorse. If she acts bitchy, you can just keep doing it till she laughs or walks off.
You learn how to entertain yourself when you're feeling down too. Also makes you good at comebacks. You can also use it when talking to guys too and make crowds laugh without much effort.
An example:
You see a girl shopping for booty shorts.
"Shopping for your dad?"
Even if she doesn't find your joke funny, she will laugh if she thinks you're cute. Takes about a month or two before this becomes automatic and you almost can't shut it off without feeling miserable and bored.
Dylan Smith
I'd say if you're a desperate virgin cutting out all sexual content online would be a good idea. If the only way you can see some ass is by actually going out and getting it yourself is good motivation.
Juan Davis
foot fetish is the most vanilla fetish of them all
Kayden Hughes
I am a born again virgin thanks to lifting, my future princess (do you want me to cum?) will appreciate my innate innocence and pure desires
i see ugly ass dudes with girls all the time so i dont think this is his case
girls dont care if youre dyel as long as you're not fat
#3 is probably the real answer
Charles Martin
Maybe, just maybe, you're asexual OP. Or gay.
Embrace it. You lift not for thots but for mankind
Joseph Stewart
>However, it's my belief that 9/10 "incels" you find on the internet are simply losers who don't try. If you have to try then you're not a 9/10. Women will literally beg you to let them suck your dingus if you're that good looking.
It's a known fact lifting just makes you stronger.
Anyone got the epic cums infographic btw?
Juan King
Thanks. I hadn't heard of Pook until I found his book. There's another book that all guys should read too: "For Men Only" by Shaunti Feldhahn.
Between that and The Book of Pook, nothing that women do will really be a surprise anymore.
Kayden Ward
This. Done it before and if you pull it off at the right time, the girl will not hesitate to take you home.
Oliver Jones
cringed hard
Connor Hernandez
this 3dpd 3d girls literally cannot compete buy a sexdoll and call it a day
Juan Nguyen
*Tips suede fedora*
Is there anything more PUAthetic than pickup artists.
Carson Morgan
>>never slept in same bed as a girl Honestly much better than sex. Waking up next to a woman and having her kiss you and whisper "good morning" while you're still shaking off sleep, and then cuddling for 15 minutes before you have to face the day is some transcendental shit.
Benjamin Lewis
what does that book say about lifting???
plz respond
Caleb Taylor
Post body
Julian Jones
>However, it's my belief that 9/10 "incels" you find on the internet are simply losers who don't try.
You're absolutely right, but as one of these loser incels at 27, let me try to give my perspective on it. Surely you'll shit on me for it which i deserve but I'll say it anyway
>hit a certain age where you are still a virgin, say 19 or 20, maybe even 21 >society (and mainly women) use the term "virgin" as one of the harshest insults you can give to a guy, lol never tell someone you're a virgin, girls can smell virginity, guys with no social status will never get a girl, etc >if you perform poorly during sex, you get ridiculed, laughed at, etc, especially nowadays with how "easy" sex is to get via dating apps, how sexually open girls are, how they share stories about their sex with friends, online, et >realize that you're at an age where it is incredibly pathetic to still be a virgin, likely have poor social skills which will make interactions like this go even worse >all you ever read online, hear in public, etc is how if you don't have a girlfriend, don't have sex, you're literally the most pathetic scum on the face of the planet, you're worthless, you have no value, what the fuck is wrong with you lol, just nonstop insulting and degrading you for how pathetic you are
And then people wonder how there are guy who are miserable, depressed, and therefore it leads to them not trying to get girls (who would want nothing to do with a worthless loser like them)
Lucas Lopez
That's not what he meant brainlet
Christian Campbell
i have tfn gf for my life but i got laid at a 'beach' party where alcohol was involved. For most people being' buff' can push you over the line as it ADDS to there other stuff. If you have nothing else to offer you wont get laid you fucking retard.
Thomas Sanchez
post your body or you're baiting, OP theres no way you can't get laid in 2019 while having a good physique
Connor Cook
You seem to think getting laid makes you a better person, work on you and just live a normal life you fucking nonce. Who would've thought that women would want to sleep with a guy who looks like he has his shit together? Even if you looksmaxx, it's worth jack shit if you're a fucking retard. If you're a loser with a girlfriend, you're still a loser.
Carter Morales
Challenge accepted
Nicholas Howard
How many girls have you fucked with that method though?
I bet it’s not that many. When you’re in the role of an entertainer and trying to be funny all the time it’s not very alpha. Girls will enjoy you but not really want to sleep with you.
Jayden Fisher
this is fucking silly. opening on women is 100% dependent on how attractive you are, not one what stupid shit you say.
My personal favorite is picking up girls in book stores or grocery stores:
1.) Get in an aisle alone with them, pretend to be shopping 2.) Make an animal noise, I like to quack 3.) Make sure she looks over at you through peripheral vision, but do not look at her 4.) Do nothing, say nothing, continue shopping 5.) When she looks away, within a second or two just make another animal noise. I usually quack again, but I've also meowed. 6.) This time, you look at her as if she made the noise. Make sure you do the "wtf weird" face at her.
If she finds you attractive, she will start to smile and incredulously deny that it was her or it was you. If she finds you attractive and is shy, she's just do the smile and blush and shake her head type thing. If she doesn't like you at all, she'll just look away thinking you're a weirdo creeper.
If it's the first two you know who you're dealing with, a woman who will speak up and play along, or a woman who will play along but you'll have to do all the work (many such cases).
You just take the flirting from there. "Sorry, were you just quacking at me? Why?" Say with a cheeky grin. And just keep going with that. After a line or two of silly banter, say "yeah that was me, I just thought you were cute." take out your phone and say "what's your number."
If you're a sperg, try to do this when youre done shopping so you don't bump into them again and get awkward. I've done it before and I just shopped with them and kept flirting but it's best to save all the "getting to know you" shit for the first date
Parker Harris
>train misses its stop >conductor says "oh, we missed our stop" >"Oh well" he jams the engine dial to "MAX" >Continues full speed in the wrong direction
Bro. I hope you find my analogy useless. Don't you think you should calmy, methodically, slow the train down, let it come to a full stop, and then reverse the engines so the train can go back to its original destination?
Liam Lee
>When you’re in the role of an entertainer and trying to be funny all the time it’s not very alpha. Girls will enjoy you but not really want to sleep with you.
>always hear that one thing most women say is very or most important in a guy is having a good sense of humor >if you can make girls laugh and make them happy being around you they will want to be with you
later
>dude don't be an entertainer, don't be funny, it's not alpha at all
Amazing
John Stewart
Lifting does not make you a pussy magnet. Unless you are really good looking or Greek statue tier you still need to make effort on your personality and talk to people.
Face is 6-7/10, used to be fat, did not dress well, did well academically > all of this leads up to lack of self confidence, not very good at social interactions.
Start lifting because I don't like being fat and want to improve myself, still dyel but not fat any more. I start reading basic tips on how to dress properly. I start liking my own image and feel more confident talking to people > circle of friends get bigger, get invited to parties/trips where you meet girls > getting laid.
Jace Gray
I'm paraphrasing but, if you are well built and have low body fat, women allow you to get away with a lot more. This in turn allows you to be bolder with them in terms of your intentions and what you want.
Basically, women are superficial during the initial stages of meeting you and will observe each minute detail about you and make sweeping generalizations and conclusions based on those.
If you are physically attractive, women will assume a lot about you, and naturally be more willing to sleep with you. In fact, they want you to be bold or even "creepy" in terms of how far you're willing to push boundaries. The normal "rules" of civility and what we consider morality go out the window when you're attractive/charming. I can attest to this as many on this board probably can too.
It's easier to change yourself physically, so it's always best to start there...Everything else will work itself out as girls begin seeing you as a sexual being rather than just a male.
I was so unaware of this at first that when I got superfit about three years ago, it was jarring and actually a bit scary.
Women suddenly lost all shame in how they behaved towards me. I would get my ass grabbed at random at bars. Girls would start stroking me in the middle of conversation. Girls would blurt out things like, "I bet you've fucked all the girls where you work..." or "Do you live close by...?" after minutes of conversation. Nothing about me emotionally or mentally had really changed, other than that I felt great being as fit as I was.
There was a program that Pook swore by but by the time I read the book I was already there physically. This book was more of an explanation of the emotions and perspective that I was now experiencing and how to take full advantage of it.
tl;dr Lifting is important if you want girls, shit will change once you reach a certain threshold of fitness. It will probably fuck with you a bit if you're not ready for it.
Leo Rodriguez
>You just take the flirting from there. "Sorry, were you just quacking at me? Why?" Say with a cheeky grin. And just keep going with that. After a line or two of silly banter, say "yeah that was me, I just thought you were cute." take out your phone and say "what's your number."
id love to breed that hole rape her cunt and get her pregnant
Bentley Cooper
im a virgin,yet a national athlete and a kissless virgin and i have images like this on my phone
im one of the fastest strongest and most physically skilled people on my country, yet i have 0 skills when it comes to getting a bitch, i have never ever had a female friend, im not ugly but not attractive and i have a ridiculous muscular body, not natty,my friends know it and find it hilarious but never make fun of me at least not in front of me, im happy too bad i wont make it at tokyo 2020, if i ever make it big i will remember u guys but i doubt it i will lol im 28
/thread, but of course a few hundred motherfuckers didn't get the memo.
Nolan Sanchez
What sport?
Nicholas Powell
Please, user. If you ever make it big and you're on your podium giving a speech, just keep thanking "Pepe" "I'd like to thank my coach, my parents, God, and Pepe. I could have not done it with out Pepe. Pepe, is a good boy!" Then the audience cheers
We will know that we are Pepe. Thank you user. I love you. Good luck with your training
Juan Barnes
It's a method of developing the ability to banter not a PUA technique. You CAN use it to flirt but it's great just for making conversation and getting into a good vibe. Where I work, I talk to people a lot and it's definitely improved my interactions with people.
Also, I don't count how many girls I fuck. I started doing this about six months ago though, so I'd say quite a few.
It's not about being an entertainer, it's about being entertaining. The highs of laughing and joking around have an expiration point where people get burnt out. Anyone that makes people laugh professionally will tell you that.
Observing and finding the humor in the people and things around you is a skill and not unlike lifting, it may require practice if you're weak at it. The best thing about practicing this, is that it comes naturally and you can just "feel" the happy vibe you're building on. It's great to be honest. So much so that I stopped caring about whether I banged the girl or not.
Girls enjoying you is great too, as they introduce you to their hot friends. Having lots of girls as friends is great if they like you; you get invited to parties, free drugs (if that's your thing), and people automatically defer to you because you know all the hot girls and they adore you.
Ryan Ward
not having social skills is the main cause for all this shit. unless you are physically deformed, being "ugly" is no excuse. however, not having social skills will ruin your life, and not only that but it starts snowballing really young, like teenage years, and soon it will become an avalanche that you can't stop that ruins not only any chance you have at relationships/friendships, but at anything good from happening in your life in any aspect
t. social skillless 27 year old khv
Carter Parker
im paranoid when it comes to giving "some kind of personal i formation" on Jow Forums, also i believe in conspiracy theories and im very paraboid about it, as /FIT isnt a place of genetic freaks they never believe you how much you lift and how strong you are unless you timestamp or something like that, who cares...you can be succesfull yet a loser at girls you can get girls yet a loser at everything else, im a weirdo in intimacy i always fake it, but doesnt matter im "happy" lets say i love being competitive and winning...just focus on what YOU ARE GOOD and you may have chances to triunph at something, dont worry on things you CAN NOT CHANGE
there are lot (few in reality) guys here who could become pretty good at many things but they stress too much on things like women, dick size, face and more
Oliver Allen
I like anime too but come on user, what the actual fuck. I'm a football player for a national team, it's not like the US where being part of a team gets you major pussy but it makes your job way easier. Women would be quite impressed if you actually knew how not to be autistic.
William Kelly
You don't count? Nigga, you should see my spreadsheets.
loooo i always imagine things like that, too bad im in my prime years and not performing as i was suppose to perform, anyways im good at many sports and i could switch if something goes wrong, I HAVE MANY DREAMS
thanks for your comment man you made my day, just like i said to another user, focus on what you good at, sometimes its not a fitness related thing but writing, singing you may know best
Dominic Garcia
>Women would be quite impressed if you actually knew how not to be autistic.
i am extremely picky and perfectionist when it comes to woman, i dont want to be the second and i dont want the second girl who doesnt look as good as the one on his right,i always look for impossible girls who dont notice me or we get a small talk and ends there, im not a highpaid athlete that smash what he wants, i dont try if i find a girl cute only, i only go for it if i really like her, maybe its some kind of autistic personality, who knows im happy this way, i could pay a hooker, a very hot one but id rather stay a virgin that paying for sex
btw GOOD LUCK in your sports carreer my man
Luke Russell
its been years since i didnt read this pasta kek
Dominic Allen
You seem very eccentric from your way of typing. Stop living your life thinking of such superficial things, you will never get to even get that girl you like if your mindset is like this.
I was pretty autistic in the past, due to realizing that and fixing it I have changed my life around and on the path to continuously becoming the best version on my self. I think it's good that you are happy tho, keep that up. Life isn't about getting laid, should've realized that a little sooner. Just wish I could say one last goodbye to those who are gone! :')
Cheers bro, good luck to you as well.
Joseph Gutierrez
trying to apply a pragmatic, relatively simple real life example to something as complex as human emotion and personalities really means nothing. you can do all the "slowing down and reversing" you want, but when you have a decade of failure in your mind, not to mention the societal stigma you already have, just reversing is a really hard idea.
your analogy would make more sense like this to virginity
>train misses its stop >conductor says "oh, we missed our stop" >considers turning the train around to go back to the stop >if he does, he will be ridiculed by his fellow conductors and the passengers for how stupid he was to miss the stop, how pathetic he was to have missed the stop, if anyone sees him acknowledge his failure they will ridicule him even more, no one will hire him as a conductor again >chooses to just continue on and inconvenience the passengers rather than expose his failure to the world
Jacob Bailey
lifting to get laid = retarded pleb
Benjamin Davis
>passangers all look out the window, watching their destination become smaller and smaller behind them >storm the cockpit >kill the terrorist at the helm who has taken over the train and brainwashed the conductor into thinking he's pathetic >convince conductor it's not a big deal, they just want to get home >conductor reverses train >one of the ladies admires his heroism and beings giving him a blowjob
Come on user!
Julian Ortiz
PLZ SOMEONE SAY THIS ISNT TRUE PLZ SOMEONE SAY THIS ISNT TRUE PLZ SOMEONE SAY THIS ISNT TRUE PLZ SOMEONE SAY THIS ISNT TRUE
oh yeah? you think that "passengers" would just tell a conductor who has been conducting for over 25 years yet still misses a stop "dont worry about it, its not a big deal, nothing to worry about, i still want to ride on a train with you again"?
you must not talk to a lot of train passengers
Elijah Evans
its not true brah got gf 6 months into lifting she turned 18 three months after we started dating
Luis Carter
I know some people will shit on this, bc it's high priced or they don't like the guy, but I'm going to make a suggestion. Get Andrew Tate's Ph.D program.
Yes, he comes off as a huge asshole and it's a turn off for some people, but I actually like his style.
The first video is over 1:40:00 I'm only 30 minutes in because I'm taking my time and taking notes. But that dude un-fucked and blew my mind like nothing or no one else has in just 30 minutes. It literally is the biggest game changer that I have ever experienced.
Good luck buddy.
Colton Collins
I guarantee this shit only works if you're white
Jayden Kelly
I am 1000% sure the passengers just want the conductor to get to the stop as quickly and safely as possible!
Adrian Evans
post pic i'll tell you what's wrong
Ryder Long
Yea if you're impossible to be around it doesn't matter what the fuck you look like.
Try harder at it.
Adam Fisher
but if he gets them there too quickly, then they will denigrate him for that too
Asher Foster
9 out of 10. as in only one tenth of the guys who claim they try actually try
Levi Brown
Gains should be used for seducing rich women and funneling their money to esoteric causes.
Nathaniel Campbell
>my gf's ass and legs look almost identical to OP's pic
Exactly. Either use it to get money, mess with roastie feelies, or to show off
Xavier Gonzalez
Stop roids I wouldn't date you for this reason
Dylan Hernandez
m8 just go fuck a whore a few times to lose the v card. Having sex with someone is a new experience everytime in that you need to figure out what works and what doesn't so if you've fucked like three or so times they won't be able to tell you've never had sex .
Chase Richardson
You literally wouldn't know for most people unless they told you
Caleb Hernandez
It's shit, even worse if you don't tell me
Camden Rodriguez
Nice larp i guess
Thomas Young
Autism is a hell of a disease
Brandon Diaz
Why do incels get so mad when you point out game matters with women? Like I was good looking when I was 19, got the flirty eyes in metros/streets, but I never had the balls to do anything. Even when women would APPROACH ME I was so autistic that the spark would die and they'd walk away. Now I'm uglier than I was but actually have balls and most of my sexual partners were contained in the recent 2 years of actually doing pickup.
Leave your dungeons fuckers. Ugly guys dating above their "looksmatch" everywhere
Knowing game helps. However, if the guy truly is a manlet or ugly (or worse both,) all the game in the world isn't going to help.
Anthony Cook
I'm trying to help here. Just keep being incels
Landon Parker
Not really true, an ugly man who knows how to appeal does it. Being smart and knowing how to provoke is all one needs, besides the fact a Jow Forums body itself is hot, but never enough. Women get horny mentally, not visually.
Lucas White
How much is the program? Can I pirate it?
I dont like that he shit talks roosh but I'm willing to hear new opinions
Logan Kelly
lifting doesnt get you laid, it HELPS you get laid. you still have to not be a moron.
Parker Walker
Kinda anecdote, but my 5'2 manlet buddy has pulled some serious hot ass and his current gf is not too shabby either. He really gave zero shits what people had to say about him and it let him get some serious pulls
It's 250 GBP which is about $318 US, not sure if you can pirate it or not. You'll have to dig for that yourself if that's the route you want to go. If you contact him and tell him your story, he'll most likely give you a discount.
To see his style just look on YouTube for Andrew "Cobra" Tate, like I said, he's not for everyone, but I like his style. Some people just can't handle brutal honesty like he delivers.