What's the true natty limit?

What's the true natty limit?

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That

bodybuilders of the 1890s to early 1930s with a little more chest development
add 5-10lbs of muscle mass, subtract 2-3% BF (better understanding of nutrition and training)

other than that you're left trusting the natty status of online personas

>natty

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he's not natty so no

Depends on genetics, I was in the navy with a guy that had huge delts and traps and he wasn't on gear, if I saw someone that had his level of development on Instagram I would assume they were shooting up. That being said, probably something close to your pic is what's achievable for the average person, most people don't have the willpower and dedication however.

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30 cms biceps and slightly being able to see your top abs

Look how big his shoes are to make him look taller, trully a fucking manlet

What do you mean

Look at those thick soles

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>uses shoes to inflate height
>grows beard to hide weak chin/jaw

why cope so hard

dis.

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after you see him in video (without photoshop and angles) you can start to believe he is natty
dude is small as fuck

You do know he takes roids right

Something like this I would say.He looks like fuck when not lean and small when shredded,his height and weight add up too

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he's 6'2" and off a pump

do you actually believe every person who is muscular is never at-rest

even fucking bodybuilders look softer without a pump

depends

I legitimately would say Greg O'Gallagher. Been lifting since he was 14, I believe him that he never took any gear. He looks great but I'd say that's as natty max as you can get.

Steroids were first developed in the 30s, as a treatment for depression, and started being used for performance enhancement in the 50s, starting with Warsaw Pact Olympic weightlifter. They were legal back then, so there was no reason for users to hide it.
So any western athlete in the 50s and earlier is probably natty and any from before the 30s definitely is.

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he was so much better before he started to roid

Agreed.

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