>6ft2 and a quarter >slightly above average face >decently fit and active >masters degree >make $132,456 a year plus insurance and benefits >high-rise 1 bed penthouse >popular amongst friends >liked at work >dress well >shave, shower 2 times a day, exfoliate face, pluck brows, wear 48 hour sports deodorant >regularly do standups on the weekends, seem to make people laugh more than half the time >people, including women have told me i'm the funniest person they've ever met >people have, including women told me i'm a good listener and could be a therapist >make personal trainer laugh so hard she has to re-do some of her makeup from crying every 2-3 sessions i'm with her >has actually delayed putting on some of it when i go there because she doesn't want to walk around with smeared black shit all over her face and get it in her eyes >go out with the weekends with boss and coworkers >cold approach every single girl i see and groups of girls >have made many laugh >rejected by all of them >see them all making out then walk out at the end of the night with square face prettyboy jaw lined douchebag who's like 1-2+ inches shorter than me >sometimes slightly taller however >asked out coworkers who complemented me and other coworkers who i thought i might have had a chance with >rejected >go on tinder >check mens section to see what i'm up against >ultra ripped box-faced bright-eyed sunken cheek-boned jocks all over the place i've worked so hard, i've put in all this effort, every day i spend hours pushing myself to my upper limits, i always tell myself to never give up, but here i am, all these years, and no fucking results to show for it, here i am with all this work and here they are with none, and at the end of the day who's the one who feels love? attraction? who's the one that feels desired, that gets approached, the one who never gets rejected, who doesn't even have to be funny, to impress.........not me
Personality is a meme. You're probably not above average if you have literally no success with women. If you are, then I guess maybe you're too bay-tuhhh.
Andrew Adams
hm, i maintain straight body posture and relaxed body language, approach, do my humor thing and if they laugh i be more direct, the most common blowoff i receive is "look, you're a great guy, but i'm just not feeling it" or the likes, also "aww listen no haha uhm, ok, there's nothing wrong it's just i'm busy is all" and of course the old fashioned i have a boyfriend
i've watched some real social dynamics videos and read some self-proclaimed gurus talk about the asshole approach and the last time i did that i almost got the police called on me, all i was doing was what i saw the douchebags were doing, i tried mixing a bit of "myself" in and some just straight trying to get physical and be cheeky and so on. Fuck man, i'd say it hurts but i'm past the point of being able to experience the pain
if you're a virgin fuck you. come to thailand and spend all that cold cash on absolutely prime SEA bunny pussy.
you. fucking. retard. you have the position of a literal king. why the fuck would you waste a second of your time and effort on roasters when you have more than enough income to fuck high end escorts.
jesus you guys are morons. also, what is your masters degree and whats your career field?
Adrian Wilson
I feel you. I am 6'0, an attorney, fairly fit -- I work out three times a week at least. I have savings, a decent head of hair. I'm fairly social, and I dress well. All form-fitting clothes. But I still can't find a girlfriend.
It has to do with me for sure. It's a character thing. Going to start making it a goal of mine to cold approach women at the bar. Perhaps I will begin this weekend.
Christopher Morales
Find this hard to believe. You must only want to date a 10/10
Ryder Perry
what's the point if they'll never love me, if they're just after my cash, if i'll never be desired for who i am, if i have to pay them and have them work like they're in a factory just so they would fuck me, it would only make me hurt even more, knowing that if i weren't dropping wads of cash on the table they wouldn't even give me the light of day and would rather choose someone else
finance, senior financial management and analysis for a logistics company at least it's nice to know i'm not alone, good luck, i hope it works for you, i don't understand what it is about my character that's undesirable, i seem to meet this massive list of criteria everyone talks about having to have just to even be considered as a partner i've been rejected by a total of 2 chubby girls, i draw the line at obesity / morbid obesity and extreme deformities though. Haven't seen any real 10/10's maybe once or twice but they were always with another man, i don't know man i just approach every girl who looks single / alone or doesn't have another man with them
Look OP, if you look like you're trying too hard to make girls laugh, they see you as a goofy clown. You have to be able to carry a normal conversation and flirt. When girls say they like funny guys, they mean guys that crack a joke now and then, not comedians. Tone it down in your approaches. That's my guess, anyway.
Liam Richardson
so, i should stop making them laugh and only reserve it for like, awkward moments? i don't understand, isn't that counter-productive? I thought the whole point was to show your personality
as for conversations, people say i could be a therapist i guess because i'm good at making people talk and actually listening to what they have to say and giving thought out responses, i try my best to reach people's genuine core and find out what they like talking about most, and sometimes, very rarely so but it happens nonetheless, i'll even have things in common with a girl, like this one time at comic con i approached a girl successfully with some joke about sweaty costumes and ketchup packets or something like that, something about opening ketchup packets because she was struggling to open one and she said she liked star wars, we were talking about it for like 45 minutes straight just standing and things were going really well, then when i tried to progress it and ask for her snapchat she flaked and said she was really busy with school and i said no problem i have work stuff going on it's fine, ended up literally just going "naww, sorry, i don't..." then it just got awkward and i asked don't what, just said sorry you're cool and all but i think i should probably go and walked off, and what the fuck man her eyes were lit up and everything i was even enjoying myself, she made me laugh for a change
sigh, i'm not a real comedian, apparently i'm not funny enough, i just like doing standup on the weekend because seeing other people smile and laugh makes me feel like i'm worth something to someone, like i've provoked some kind of emotion within them towards me or because of me for that matter
I am roughly on par with you in my traits except that I make about 5k less than you, am an inch taller, and probably don't have quite the sense of humor you have. While dating is still hard work for me, I manage to get a steady stream of women who are interested including some fine-looking honeys. There are probably some very subtle things you don't notice that might be undermining your success.
Cold approach can be a complete waste of time depending on your location. I know for a fact that where I live, it really does not work at all because there is a steady stream of thirsty fuckers out here.
As for the co-workers rejecting you, maybe its possible that they don't want to shit where they eat?
If Tinder isn't working out for you, you should definitely check out some of the other up-and-coming apps. Tinder seems to be falling out of fashion with the ladies in my area, who are flocking to apps like Bumble and Hinge to find better quality men who aren't total fuckboys. One thing to consider with dating apps is that subtle things like the ordering of your pictures can either make or break you. In my case, a simple switching of my first picture with one I previously put further back actually improved my match rate by 3x. That aside, using the paid features that improve your visibility in the algorithm (like boosts) and super-likes will significantly boost your odds of matching with better quality women.
Parker Ward
you know what, fuck it, not like it fucking matters right? milwaukee WI; where are you with all those thirsty fuckers?
guess that makes sense. As for tinder i've only selected my best pics from instagram some of which were taken by a company photographer friend / associate / person who does some contracting for us and i think they look pretty nice, the articles i've read talk about group photos changing scenery etc, i've traveled to puerto rico canada germany and a few other places in europe but those were business trips but i've used pics from there like on the beach, some funny pics of me doing crazy shit like pouring some beer on a bull statue that's eating something off the ground holding up a handkerchief to a statue that looks like it's about to sneeze and shit like that i dunno, i get like 10-12 matches a week, some have messaged first but they never reply past the second message whether or not i say something witty or not, some don't even open my message when they were the ones who went first, most either don't even open my message, don't reply to me or give me very short basic quick answers trying to get rid of me, i've only had 2 or 3 times where they actually talk to me and 1 where they "liked" me but of course rejected me fuck i don't know what is it what is it about me that's undesirable why what the fuck am i doing wrong god damnit
Are you making use of any of the paid boost features on Tinder? Since you're making 6 figs, you should be sinking some of your money into that if you're really serious about finding someone. That feature will help you rack up a lot more matches. The super likes will also help get the attention of higher-caliber women.
I'm really surprised you aren't having more success given your circumstances. Either you rate yourself too high on looks or you're a lot more of a social retard than you think. I'm guessing its the latter because being tall in itself can make up for other shortcomings in your physical appearance.
Landon Davis
I tried tinder plus once for a month and it helped me get 20 matches in a week with the boost, then i tried gold a few months ago but it only got me like 3-4 extra matches, the girls that it said "liked" me did the same thing i said when i messaged them, that's about it
i never rated myself insanely high on looks i just sad i had a *slightly* above average face, i'm not disfigured or ugly i don't think. Not sure whether or not i'm a social retard don't think i would've survived thus far, my job depends on me not being autistic, then again we're all on Jow Forums in the middle of the night not sure if that even lets us qualify as being a social person to begin with, i just know i can talk to people for a long time listen well and make them laugh, am i also supposed to have impeccable charisma fit for a god? anyways, talking about all these "qualities" or whatever just makes me angry, why is it that we have to have these huge checklists just to prove ourselves just to have a fucking chance? why do we have to work so hard for this when it looks like these people don't have to do a damn thing and we get no results, or i mean i don't know you sound like you get results with your stream of cuties or whatever, but seriously like, is it not fucking enough that i'm just me? why do i have to spend my entire life becoming this person just to try and impress someone else only to have it fail, isn't that kind of shallow? ah well, who the fuck am i to say
I thought everyone was gay in san francisco, maybe i should just move, but i mean if i don't have any luck with these girls how would my chances improve with big-city girls? wouldn't it just decrease? fuck man, and why am i thinking of literally moving locations just to find a partner or get laid, isn't that fucked? fuck
>why do we have to work so hard for this when it looks like these people dont have to do a damn thing and we get no results, or i mean i dont know you sound like you get results with your stream of cuties or whatever, but seriously like, is it not fucking enough that im just me? why do i have to spend my entire life becoming this person just to try and impress someone else only to have it fail, isn' that kind of shallow? Its sort of like a catch 22 user. I get this feeling that you look at dating as building up a good resume for potential employers (GFs), but if I can feel that then the girl can feel that too
While dating is very much like a job interview, you want to seem confident that your attractive qualities will shine through to the girl without having to proactively push them to the forefront during conversation. A sort of que sera sera, if you will
And here I am >5'7 >Average face >Lost a lot of my hair >150 lbs, not very fit, sedentary lifestyle >Renting a 3bdrm house >Made $10k last year as a freelance designer >Work from home so mostly just wear t-shirts and gym shorts >Shave once every few months And I'm married to a cute, wholesome blonde woman who works full time so I can work on building my career and wants to see me succeed. Life ain't always fair.
Aiden Perez
wait what? who talks about their accomplishments and attractive qualities like that? i don't mention anything unless i'm asked or like if they directly comment on my height but i'll always throw something else in there to shift the focus unless i can play on it, i may make enough money but i mean i'm not a gazillionaire or whatever, i did try showing off once it didn't work well at all she said "ok...good for you" and her friend in the back said "uhhh noooboody caareesss" and they laughed, honestly i'm surprised it didn't hurt as much as i thought it would, i just talk about regular stuff in the beginning and try to find out what they like then talk about that, or sometimes if i'm bored of that i'll just start talking about things i like and get them to try and lead things
i wouldn't say it feels like getting a job i'd say it feels like walking into a bank and asking for a billion dollar loan, getting a job is easy for me at least you can actually make progress and they have to take you if you have the education experience and so on like i do, i spent 3 and a half years as an intern 1 and a half of which was unpaid the rest very poorly paid and worked all throughout my degree, it was hard work but at least i achieved something towards the end of it...this...this just feels like a lost cause, but i keep telling myself to not give up and i don't know why, i keep going, people are supposed to connect with eachother and appreciate eachother right? why must we put all this work which doesn't have anything to do with ourselves? sigh, i'm almost 30 man...
how do you do it? what do you even say if i sound so much like a job interviewee? what the fuck man, and then after all this shit people telling me i need this i need that when i've spent all this time working for the things i have you're telling me you're the one that does? do you have super charisma or something? how did you do it? i don't believe you at all
do you have super charisma or something? how did you do it? i don't believe you at all I don't think I have that much charisma, not anymore anyway. I got some mild brain damage the year I met my wife (2010) and that altered some of my personality and gave me a lot of anxiety problems. I never had problems talking to girls though. Most of my friends have been girls and since I was 14 (31 now) I just had no reservations about flirting with girls when I was interested in dating them, probably just testosterone taking the wheel for me. I'm also really patient about it too. I probably just talked to my wife for 2 or 3 months before making a move.
All I can tell you is if I was single and had to date right now, I'd probably just be alone. At least you know you are successful in every other aspect of life. I constantly feel like a loser/failure/disappointment to my wife even though she doesn't see me that way.
Gavin Gonzalez
>I thought everyone was gay in san francisco, maybe i should just move, but i mean if i don't have any luck with these girls how would my chances improve with big-city girls? wouldn't it just decrease? fuck man, and why am i thinking of literally moving locations just to find a partner or get laid, isn't that fucked? fuck
Trust me you don't wanna come here for the women, lol.
Noah Brooks
>how do you do it? what do you even say if i sound so much like a job interviewee? I cant tell you what exactly, theres no playbook for this. But it sounds like youve got this very formulaic approach to dating when its a lot more abstract then that
Ive been on a lot of dates where I felt like there was a good connection only for the girl to ghost me. Just recently I started seeing a girl and even though the dates dont seem to be as fun or as interesting as other dates Ive had with other girls, we enjoy our time together and I dont have to employ strategies or contingency strategies to get her attention. I just talk, and she talks, and then we go home and go to bed.
It doesnt seem romantic or charming in anyway to me, but I enjoy my time with her and I feel the connection there.
I guess the romance flows from the simplicity. When you stop looking at it as asking for a billion dollar loan, and you stop trying so hard to progress through a date like you would through a career, then it just becomes two people hanging out. Youll find love when you stop looking for it
>6'2" (and a quarter) Holy shit, lmao. Just say you're 6'2". You're 6'2". You don't need to tell me the exact measurements to boost your cred a little. You reek of insecurity. Why are you insulting people for being in a better situation than you and then stalking tinder profiles. What's wrong with you is this a LARP or something. There's no way someone this succesful is this much of a fucking sook
John Perry
>Youll find love when you stop looking for it what does this even mean
Juan Bell
I'm kinda in the same boat, user. Probably not as successful or attractive, but I know that feel of not connecting with women. I put effort into my appearance, I'm not a complete fuck up loser, I have my own money, car, all that that one would think are the requirements for a girl to be interested but I've never once met a girl that found me interesting enough to date. The only times I have dated are thru apps and they always end poorly, sometimes how you mentioned with girls wanting you for your money, sometimes they'd want sex after the first date, sometimes I just didn't get on with them for a more personal reason, but without fail the few times that I could have started something, it was clear it wouldn't work out because she clearly didn't like me for who I was. It was either for my money, to change me into something they wanted, or to project a fantasy onto me. I've never met a girl who felt like a friend, an actual real relationship, ever have the prospect of turning into something more. I'm 25 now and I'm really really fucking worried I'll never find that.
Levi Miller
Do you ever consider they might be laughing at you, not with you? Thats the only way this story makes sense.
Oliver Hughes
>what does this even mean It means that youre trying to hard, probably because you are trying to date girls that are out of your league. These girls notice this and will be turned off
Lower your standards, stop giving a fuck and act confident but not douchey and you will find someone
Landon Martin
You're trying to hard. Fems can smell the desperation, and you do sound desperate. If you're all you say stop initiating contact and wait for a woman to either ask you. Carry on like this and you'll get a reputation as the creepy guy that asks every woman he speaks to for her number
Jace Thompson
Women will always have the a massive upper hand when it comes to dating. Most men can also have a satisfying dating life. But if you are like me, ugly and just plain boring, then you will never get anywhere with women.
I think I also have autism and mental health problems. I will admit I am a loner. But hey, at least you have a well paying job. I am working in security. Its low pay but I like my job because its stress free; and you can play on your phone as long as there is nothing to do, and no one to assist.
Gabriel Butler
This guy is right OP. Im the same as you, I cant tell you how many times Ive been told by girls Im the funniest guy theyve ever met. Still no luck. But I just cant stop either. I like being funny, its just part of who I am. Id rather be a goofball than date. You might have to make the same choice.
Lucas Smith
>living in the USA the most consumeristic materialistic country of the world >having an upper class salary >not getting almost whatever girl you want
Either you are a larping NEET or you are an autistic uglyfuck trying pua memes
Connor Gutierrez
You're obviously ugly and a sperg.
Ryder Bailey
I'd probably be your gf if you were shorter and lived near me OP. Odds are you probably want kids like every other guy though. What the heck is a "cold approach"? I think guys have better luck if they actively seek out a partner and make their intentions clear.
James Turner
Give me your life and I'm sure I would do better.
I have no or very little aesthetics, basically a bum, but I still min/max each area of my life I seem important. I'm still pretty much doomed. We all are. Aging sucks.
unironically lower your standards, you need to get some exp points first, slay rats until you can move onto wolves. some suggestions are - fat young girls with acne who would never go to clubs or wherever you are picking them, chubby/fat skanks, older(like near 50) women who still take care of themselves somewhat, but don't have time to go to clubs or whatever, look for them in say grocery stores and walking their dogs. get a part-time job at wallmart or something, you'll see plenty bottom of the barrel women and I don't even mean necessary looks wise, but social status wise. also, like somebody said you could just be delusional, like a huge sperg when it comes to anything other than being a clown, remember you have to watch them straight in the eyes/face at all times while talking.
James Stewart
uh oh, the agent monitoring r9k is becoming one of ussssss
