Who else /meme degree/ here?

I worked in a grocery store for a year... does that help my chances? But honestly, I'm the least interested in the MBA. I'd rather become an author or something but realistically I'll probably end up teacher or Killing myself in a law program

I did my undergraduate degree in computer science and I'm doing my phd in philosophy now. everyone still gives me the "but JOBS though" shtick when it's like bitch I'll just become some shitty webdev if this doesn't work out

i have 5 years of web dev experience and i still can't get a job doing it

i quit my last job because my boomer dad thought i could get a "better job" with "better pay"

8 months later: nothing

B.A. Psych degree. Pretty much qualifies me to whipe retard ass for 12/hr.

Could always go back to get my masters in counceling, then be making the big bucks at around 35-40k a year with a nice 60-80k debt.

I'm getting my MBA in about 6 months but it's a European one. I'm a US citizen and I want to move there to work but I assume a European program is not seen the same as the US version so it might be a meme degree in that respect

I have a question for burgers: how shitty are the prospects for an average student in US? I seem to hear only cataclysmic predictions for zoomers.

I keep getting people from mid-level companies scouting me on linkedin. Maybe it's just your location? Mind you I'd also be down to do backend stuff (I have more experience in that anyway), which is usually not difficult to get (I worked as a programmer for a bit before getting bored and switching to philosophy, which I really enjoy so far)

you need to get
>connections

99.999% of the time, when you get a job, it's because someone gave it to you

there's over 1,000 applicants for every job. do you really think you're going to beat all of them and get it? KEK

>well fuck, that didn't turn out very well
Why do you say "turn out very well"? It never began well. Let me demonstrate:
>graduate from high school, top SAT & ACT in school, full ride to uni
There's no reason in there to go to university - it doesn't state what field you have a special aptitude for nor does it have a plan of any sort. Would you borrow $x from the bank if you had no idea what you were going to do with what you spent it on?
Waste of time and money unless you end up successful at law.
>getting a degree in pseudo-science
lmao

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>linkedin
i just made an account for that like yesterday

i am OP. my degree is economics, so it's totally unrelated to web design

i just have 5 years experience doing it

but i mostly did the same thing over and over and over again. i know js, php, mysql. but i didn't use libraries or frameworks. we didn't have any use for those things at all

i get some responses from companies (i have been replying to 1000s of places) but never gets much further than that

i was the best programmer at my old job, i'm just naturally good at it. and fast. but my resume doesn't really show that well, and couldn't. everyone would say that

whatever

I have pretty good prospects but I don't care about money or have anything I'm interested in doing. I don't really feel much anymore so no excitement, goals or desires to guide me.

>graduated
>claims to be a neet

I dont think u know what that word means.
Your educated user, quit feeling sorry for yourself and get a job that pays the bills, find a hobby that makes u happy.

1 - NEET means you are not IN education, employment, or training. if you graduated and have no job, you're a NEET

2 - I can't just "get a job" I have been trying for 8 month and nobody has offered me one

3 - I have hobbies that make me happy. Nobody's going to pay me to do those though

>waste of time and money
Why should I care? Exponentially better than wageslaving. I won't ever pay back the loans.
>b-b-but muh credit score
I've got a 6 in credit score they can jerk off

I don't have any connections but I've gotten every job I've ever interviewed for

nah they want real meaningful post grad employment. I'd join the military

Just get a stem degree you useless fucks it's not that fucking hard holy shit.

No thanks. That isn't worth it at all. I guess I'll try law

went into computer engineering. graduated with a 2.9 gpa. neet ever since 2017.

No. That's nothing more than glorified factory wageslaving. Fuck that

Are you actually that fucked if your gpa is shit? 2.3 gpa computer science major here.

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>tfw inheriting rental property that nets 50 grand a year but dont want to be a leech so have to go into wageslaving

You're not a slave to your wage anymore since you should have enough savings making 100k living in the bay area you fucking retarded NEET.

Most of you suck at math because you never tried learning it you useless fucks, honestly just kys.

Got a poli sci degree last fall. No job. I regret isolating myself in my room all through college a lot more and being khhv till 23 a hell of a lot more than the meme degree though. I don't really mind being a neet.

Well I'm doing OK at Calc 1. But honestly it just doesn't interest me enough. I thought about going for architecture but was quickly dis-illusioned to that. I'd rather NEET than slave. Sorry, bud

whats the best wagie office job to get so that i can still spend 30% of my time shitposting? maybe HR department?

I'm you except still in college. The only way I can see myself getting laid is through tinder but I'm too anxious of a person to do that.

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law school is boring and there is a ton of reading. all of your classmates are douches and the curve is the stupidest thing ever invented

Economics is a meme degree compared to say...physiology and neurobiology, or some type of engineering. But I've had friends who were complete dumbasses in college go on to have pretty successful careers as either: salesmen, insurance claim adjusters, or work in banks.

Well, I guess high-school teacher then. Worst case scenario I teach English abroad

what job should i apply to if i only have work experience i web dev and an econ bachelor's degree?

Same here. My whole college basically had no social life except for a few frat parties off campus which were way too intimidating. Most people just go to class and then go home or to the library. If you don't make friends and lose your virginity in high school you're fucked.

Depends on what kind of job you want friendo. If you're desperate for ANYTHING then I'd unironically get a job in sales for a year or so. The job will likely be awful but any sort of college degree will help. Fuck it. Even work at Enterprise Rent-a-car if you have to. Once you have a year or two of full-time employment in a "real job" (i.e., one that isn't retail or something) more doors will open and getting your dream job will become easier.

depends on the school. physiology and neurobiology are cool, but they aren't getting 200k IB offers out the gate like a Harvard Econ grad is

Yeah. Once I graduated and hit 23 though I had the worst depression ever so I downloaded some dating apps and got sex but I still feel terrible over the fact I just straight up trashed all the prime years of my youth to sit inside and watch fucking anime.

Economics is only worthwhile if you go to a big name university (think Ivy League or especially University of Chicago), I got an economics degree from my mediocre in-state university and had to go back to a bigger name grad school to secure employment. Still got a meme degree (public administration) but this time around actually had an easy time landing interviews/employment.

me too ended up going to law school

Well no. Of course not. Anything biology related is typically great for only getting you to the next step of school. I.e., zoologists/ecologists go on to become graduate students. Physiology and neurobiology students go on to med-school. etc. etc.

I'm neet with no work experience, but want to go for a meme degree like bsc psych and do social psych research or something. Is this even remotely doable in the current climate? Assuming a mediocre canuckistan school, nothing grand

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stem is really a meme for service cucks. med school especially

Alright that's just crazy talk. Med school is perhaps the best educational investment you can possibly make. The only things better might be PA school or getting an MBA.

>tfw you got a marketing degree

Well I'm fucked.

>what kind of job you want friendo
ideally one where i don't have to talk to many people

>get a job in sales
what does that even mean?

> Enterprise Rent-a-car if you have to
doing what?

>Once you have a year or two of full-time employment in a "real job" (i.e., one that isn't retail or something) more doors will open and getting your dream job will become easier.
i have 5 years of work experience as a web developer, which is a 'real job' right?

i have no 'dream job' i only dream of retirement

well my econ degree is from the highest ranked uni in my state, it's ranked in the top 10 for public unis in this country

i just don't see what kind of job it would ge anyway. they don't really teach you anything, just economic theory and supply/demand graphs. it's totally not applicable to anything

it's just a "this guy is not dumb" certification i guess

I think I misunderstood the point of this thread and now I'm not even sure why this thread was even made. It sounds like you have a job and it sounds like you're content enough with it (you stuck with it for 5 years). So wtf are you complaining about your degree for? Why did you even make this thread?

I have worked a few office jobs and a few service jobs. Every job but one had a boss who lived to work and had dead eyes and no personality. Coworkers at my level were always ok people but why are bosses so inhuman? Not necessarily cruel, but unfeeling and incapable of relating to another human being? What happens to people to make them like that?

There's not a specific applicable field for a bachelor's in economics, especially if you got a BA rather than a BS but most jobs that involve some form of analysis are open to you assuming you've got some substantive coursework and/or are good at presenting yourself as a knowledgeable person during interviews. For example, my undergrad required that we all conduct a piece of original research and I was able to parlay that into interviews for decent financial analyst positions after graduating (it especially helps that a lot of HR people see research you do as simply gobblety gook that makes you look smart). That being said, if you want a real job doing things like market analysis and actually applying what you learn (rather than using your degree as an indicator that you can think critically) then you do need a PhD.

no i do not have a job. i quit the job because my dad insisted i could get a "better job" with "better pay"

8 months later, nothing

i only stuck with it because nobody else would give me a job. my dad offered me NEETdom, and i took it. now he's mad because i haven't gotten a job. oh well

HE thought my degree [and work experience] made me qualified for something else. apparently, nobody else thinks so

STEM hasn't been profitable in years unless you go into a professional degree

congrats on going to university of Florida. nobody cares. that's the exact same in the business world as university of alabama

i got a BS but i have no "substantive coursework" at all. i have no idea what that would even mean

there's no way in fuck i'm going back to school. i guess i'm just screwed

>4 years school
>3-7 years of shit pay after
how is this better than a T14 JD or an M7 MBA. T14 law grads are pulling in 190k starting. no residency

Degrees are memes unless you go out of your way to work with them. Every STEM PhD is worthless if they choose to not write papers during their time in grad school. You have to go out and make it worth your while. If you want to work in industry, you have to make connections with recruiters and HR. If you want to do academia / research careers, you have to make relationships with your advisers and with other researchers.

t. PhD student in physics

So you never had to do any econometrics, quantitative courses, or original research?

Couple things.
1) Why would you EVER quit a job without having something else lined up?
2) and I'm not trying to go for a dig at you here, but it sounds like you're lazy. You're either not applying to enough jobs or you're only holding off for the *perfect* job. 5 years experience in ANYTHING (even a manager at McDonalds) can make you qualified for a job. For fucks sake when I was looking at applying for my first job ~1.5 years ago I got invited for a group interview for a job that I didn't apply to and wasn't even related to my degree whatsoever.

not that i can think of, no. also i don't have any of my coursework left over, it was on an old hard drive that crashed.

the school made me get an internship, but i don't have that job anymore

no alarms and no surprises no alarms and no surprises

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You approached college with the entirely wrong mindset, but it's not necessarily your fault, I guess.

Good grades are just that. They don't mean much. If anything, don't treat them as a goal, but rather as affirmation that you're doing well.

Your goal should be to graduate and get a job ASAP. The only way college is going to help you do this is if you already know what you're doing, from start to finish. You have to go with real intention, meaning you already know your major to declare, because you were set on that field of interest way before you even signed up.
Had you held a real interest in something, it would have been apparent to your teachers, and you would have put in the extra effort. Little doubt in my mind you would have made connections as well. It's not high school anymore where you can just grind through it thoughtlessly. It's career-oriented training that can actually be applicable in the real world, provided you approach it with genuine interest.

>1) Why would you EVER quit a job without having something else lined up?
a few reasons:
- i was never NEET before and wanted to try it
- i didn't feel like signing a 12 month lease and getting roped into another apartment
- my dad said i could stay with them as long as i need
- i was still able to do some work from home
- the job was illegal and i never paid taxes despite working there 4 years

i would still be working that same, terrible job today... if i didn't kill myself first

>2) and I'm not trying to go for a dig at you here, but it sounds like you're lazy. You're either not applying to enough jobs or you're only holding off for the *perfect* job.
no, i apply to at least 20 per day

>5 years experience in ANYTHING (even a manager at McDonalds) can make you qualified for a job
not really though. in fact, i mostly did the same thing over and over and over again. there's thousands of code libraries and other things i have no experience doing because i just did the same thing at my old company.

there's A LOT to do with web development. different languages, frameworks (we didn't use any frameworks) and all sorts of shit

>For fucks sake when I was looking at applying for my first job ~1.5 years ago I got invited for a group interview for a job that I didn't apply to and wasn't even related to my degree whatsoever.
cool story bro, check your fucking privilege

Weird. My university was ranked in the top 100 (and was closer to 100 than 1) and we had to do that. Most of the people in my graduating class for economics at least ended up with cushy financial adviser jobs.

unless you have job experience (which i didn't). you are super fucked. and today even cs/comp eng/ software students with high gpas can't get jobs without any internships when graduating.

I still think you're crazy. What did you expect the NEET life to be like? Did you really think it would make you happy in the long run?

If you're really applying to "20 jobs/day" then you really will inevitably find a job. Just a matter of time. If it's been 8 months and you haven't heard anything promising back despite applying to "20 jobs/day" then I'd recommend maybe broadening the types of jobs you're applying to. At this point, even being a part time cashier at your local grocery store is a good move.

>I still think you're crazy
i didn't deny this

>What did you expect the NEET life to be like? Did you really think it would make you happy in the long run?
the NEET life is great, ideal. perfect. I love every second of it. My dad just HATES it, even though he is the one that told me to do it

>If you're really applying to "20 jobs/day" then you really will inevitably find a job. Just a matter of time. If it's been 8 months and you haven't heard anything promising back despite applying to "20 jobs/day" then I'd recommend maybe broadening the types of jobs you're applying to. At this point, even being a part time cashier at your local grocery store is a good move.
Yeah, my dad is starting to insist I get a mcjob. which is 1/2 of what my original pay was. it pisses me off, because the only reason i quit my other job was because he told me to and offered me free shit to do it

i do work very, very part-time as a freelance web developer. i make like $200 a month which pays all of my bills, but if I didn't live with my parents it wouldn't be enough, obviously

"shit-pay" is still higher than the national average during those 3-7 years. Moreover, after that time of "shit-pay" you're looking at salaries comparable to what you're describing. Are there certain professions that pay more than your typical medschool grad? Sure. But that doesn't make STEM a meme.

I think you should take your fathers advice. If you really want to stick with web developing, then really focus on doing it more than only "part-time." Otherwise a job at places I mentioned earlier, such as Enterprise Rent-A-Car, or as an insurance salesman are great starting places. These aren't the most stimulating jobs, but working at that job for a year or two will make your resume much better and will make your search for that "real job" much easier.

Dude I'm in the exact same situation. Even down to the applying for counseling programs. I assume this means you dropped the idea of clinical. What happened?

In my case, I just didn't do enough research. I thought it was something that could be "gotten over with" while I focus on what truly matters, being the best clinician I can be. Nope. Turns out you eat sleep and breathe that shit for 5 years and it's the only thing schools give a damn about.

>I think you should take your fathers advice
you mean get a mcjob (stacking boxes, handing people food) which pays half my old wages? he was INDIGNANT about a mexican food place, i am not sure why though

>If you really want to stick with web developing, then really focus on doing it more than only "part-time."
i've literally done this for 8 months, to no avail

>Otherwise a job at places I mentioned earlier, such as Enterprise Rent-A-Car, or as an insurance salesman are great starting places.
OK i'll apply to these. you're sure no work experience is required?

Keynes, Friedman, or Mises?

28 NEET at home here with a journalism degree and graduated with highest honors. Not that it matters for a shitty degree. I was my family's bright star during my school years. I always received the highest marks and they had faith that I'd be a good writer. No one has ever even brought me in for an interview at a news organization. Modern journalism is shit now anyway.

i guess von mises

No I am not sure. That's for you to figure out for yourself user. I have personal anecdotes about myself and friends when it comes to their success for applying for these types of jobs.

For instance friend 1:
>BA in psych
>2.7 or so GPA
>no work experience outside of McJobs
>no research or real experience
>applied for a position at an Enterprise Rent-a-car during his final semester and was offered the job before he graduated, albeit he had to move to a very distant state because that was his only "successful" job application.

friend 2
>complete dumbass in college
>never went to class
>BA in history
>sold bullshit insurance (I think it was Aflac?) for two years
>hated his job and applied elsewhere after two years
>now he's a salesman for a sports franchise selling season tickets

friend 3
>also a dumbass
>BA in poli sci
>I assume he also had a shitty GPA
>applies for a ton of jobs during his final semester of college
>gets one job offer in a different state to work as a salesman for a tech company
>gets job
>works there for a year or so
>hates it
>now he works a different sales job for a different company and he likes it more

Fucking based lad.
Further question:
Rothbard (anarcho-capitalism), Mises (praxeology), or Hayek?

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hmmmmm... adolf hitler

I fell for the STEM meme. I did Information Systems and got a 2:2. I learned nothing and did nothing to make myself employable.

So I decided to a master's degree in something I actually like. I got a creative writing MA (lol i know) from a Russell Group uni, which is like top flight of UK unis. I got a distinction.

I work in a call centre.

> I did Information Systems
>got a 2.2
>it was a meme
Did you think they'd hand you a well paying job with opportunities with a shit GPA? Also information systems is a cucked version of anything in theoretical CS or anything else in engineering.

>go to college
>want to major in philosophy
>take an intro course, it kicks my ass and I have to drop it
>next semester
>decide to major in bio
>get a 2.0
>next semester
>passion for creative writing
>have to drop the class
>end up leaving school
I have to go back in the fall but I have no idea what I'm going to do. Are there even any degrees that aren't meme degrees?

>i failed everything I did
>are all these degrees memes??
i dunno if you're shitposting or not but this lights a fire within me

I'm not saying they're memes based on my personal experience, it's just that I've seen pretty much every possible major called a meme degree. Is trade school the only hope?

blackpill: degrees themselves are the me

a bachelor's degree literally guarantees you nothing

the best jobs people ever get are from nepotism / connections

OP here. got a call from an employer about a wordpress position. for the 2nd time, asked me to send an "updated resume"

this guy must really want me

the thing is, i fucking hate wordpress

do you know why there's so many wordpress jobs?

BECAUSE IT IS A PIECE OF SHIT AND EVERY WORDPRESS SITE BREAKS EVERY OTHER FUCKING DAY

No. Pick something you like and work on it. If you value comfort over everything else, do something that pays well, but ultimately your life will be a hollow husk if you don't spend it struggling to get what you want, so you might as well having something show for your starving nights rather than live comfortably only for it to end with nothing done. Of course, life is not all struggle, but if "safety" is what's keeping you from doing something, then you need to brake down the barrier right now.

Yeah I couldn't do the maths for CS, so I had to change degrees halfway through. Also UK degrees don't work off a GPA: undergraduate degrees are scored 2:3, 2:2, 2:1, First. Anything less than a 2:1 is a bit shit; 2:2 is like a C.

I'm not so bothered about having a high paying job as I am doing something I would enjoy. The problem is you're supposed to make big decisions about your career path when you're 16/17, so you foolishly place too much stock in the advice your teachers and family give you. I really did not like doing IT stuff - I am not good at it.

It's not just nepotism. Being personable is a universal skill, and there are a million qualified people out there, but there aren't a lot of people who are pleasant to work with. You have to make those connections yourself.

>there aren't a lot of people who are pleasant to work with
there's nothing more pleasant to work with than a person who just does their work and leaves you alone

>Did you think they'd hand you a well paying job with opportunities with a shit GPA?

Evidently you're not a Britphag (neither am I). A 2:2 is a mediocre GPA, comparable with a 3.0 GPA in Burgerland. It's not great but it's not terrible either. Believe me I've seen some terrible gpas.

As for you guys whining about GPA, No one will ask you about your GPA even 1 year after your graduation date. The only companies that really care about gpa are the ones you had no chance with to begin with. Are you applying to Mckinsey, Google, Goldman Sachs? No? Then your grades mean nothing.

I had a 1.75 gpa in a meme math degree, Now I'm making around 60k (honestly not that much money), 3.5 years out of school. I knew university was a big waste during my freshmen orientation and started mailing it in at the end of my first year (I had a 3.5 gpa at the time but that's neither here nor there).

The only reason I didn't drop out was because I didn't want to leave school as a khv (I left as a v).

>a bachelor's degree literally guarantees you nothing

Accurate. The only time a bachelor's degree is worth it, is if you try really hard, graduate near the top of your class at a semi-prestigious school, have impressive research/projects, and internships at prestigious companies to boot. Only then is it worth it.

Guess what? That sort of guy could have dropped out of high school and would probably have been about as successful. Driven, pedigreed, intelligent people tend to succeed.

Uh huh, spoken like a loner. When people look for pleasant hires, they're looking for people who have enough social grace to navigate their environment. This doesn't mean having a bombastic conversation with everyone you meet in the hallway, but having the basic courtesy to smile to people if they walk past you, finish prior to deadlines, communicate consistently, and most importantly seem like someone who could be your friend even if there's no way in hell you guys would ever be friends.

In any event, office work like that is fucking boring. Research is a hype career that looks for more or less the same thing, except you get some crazy characters in there and everyone is driven.

>spoken like a loner
i am an extreme introvert. every job i've had, i have basically been seen as the "best" worker. i'm not even trying to toot my own horn, my bosses would be the first to tell you that

i have the opposite of ADHD - i have hyper-autismal focus. and i'm nice and loyal. i am just not talkative, nor do i have anything really to talk to normies about

>No one will ask you about your GPA even 1 year after your graduation date
Duh, but if you want to build connections, you need the GPA while you're still in university.
>Are you applying to Mckinsey, Google, Goldman Sachs?
Of course I did, got an interview at 2 of those, and got an internship at 1 after my 3rd try.

I did a math and CS double major and then did grad school for physics. I'm having the time of my life, and I feel that a big part of it was focusing on grades and doing research work on the side. People who trivialize grades are usually coping or compensating for something they don't have.

applying for internships and not getting any.

Is that statistic that "95% of people get jobs after graduating" for my major at my school pure bullshit?

Ok i got a mechanical engineering degree and a 3.33 gpa now what

Been working at whole foods since i graduated

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