Used to browse and participate here heavily

>used to browse and participate here heavily
>got sick of my existence
>decided to kill myself in a metaphorical sense
>get Jow Forums
>become new person

pussy just hands itself over at this point lads.

>pic related

I want to give back to the community that accepted me when no one else did. If you have any questions on escaping, ask away.

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How did you start on your journey to become Jow Forums?

>and that's how you were born, little user

teach me your ways op i want to become a Jow Forums normie

Be honest, what would you rate your face? 5/10? 7/10? 8/10? Getting fit definitely helps and is a component, but the face is the most important part, especially on Tinder.

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The only thing that grew stronger than my muscles from lifting was my disgust for the people who now admire me.

How do I fix this?

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becoming Jow Forums helped a lot, not due to the obvious physical advantages, but the lifestyle is great.

it instills discipline and the increased test causes you to act less like a beta.

For me, I didn't even focus on counting calories because it became such a chore to do that I would get bored and quit for a while. Here's what I did

>cut out junk food and snack meals
>only eat the essential breakfast lunch and dinner
>actually eat the three meals bc if you skip one, you'll get hungry, and go apeshit on your next meal and probably over consume
>look up the program SL5x5
it's an easy beginner lifting program that focuses on teaching you form and making strength progress. it's good to start because its not everyday of the week so you can ease yourself into the gym habit
>after getting the hang of form and making basic strength, immediately switch to a brosplit program
literally one of those that just has you commiting all day to chest and another day to shoulders and another for arms, etc. Jow Forums claims these are all bad but there's a reason Chad does them and looks great. For a natural lifter with no steroids, the extreme frequency of going every day and hitting a different muscle is required to make aesthetic gains

Once I got into the regime of being Jow Forums, the rest of the puzzle just fell into place.

1. Confidence from increased test boost allowed me to not give a fuck about talking to people. I didn't even stop being autistic, people just think I have a unique quirky personality kek, they have no idea fucking normies. I was just so confident in the autism it came off that way.

2. At the same time, don't be a dick to people bc they're not worth your time and normies don't like dicks, i've realized most normies are actually pretty nice. sometimes too nice, its weird

3. If you are still in high school or in uni, I HIGHLY encourage you to join clubs to talk to people. Talking to people in classes is useless, especially in uni. Clubs is different though, even join the nerdy clubs if that's what you're interested in. Believe it or not, those nerds in the DOTA club still like to drink and have parties together. Hell some of them even are girls. Use these social events to "practice" your skills while moving up the social chain. At the same time don't treat them like practice and still take their interactions seriously.

After you get this far, its honestly pretty easy to figure it. It quite literally just works itself out.

Before lifting like a 5, after losing body fat i'm around a 6.5-7. Depends on the status of my beard too, if it's grown out i've been told it improves my facial aesthetics.

Also face is important I agree, but at the end of the day escaping robotism doesn't mean slaying on tinder. Girls in real life are much easier. The same girl on tinder may only swipe on 8s but will go home with a 6 in person.

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But haven't smartphones and online dating pretty much destroyed hitting on girls IRL? I guess maybe if you know her through friends, maybe.

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Definitely not. I would say the only social setting acceptable to hit on stranger girls IRL that i've experienced is going out to bars or parties.

Pass on the dance nightclub scene. The normal bars are where it's at, and as long as you're respectful, no one will shut you down out right. I recommend going out in a part of your town that's younger and more h i p. If you're young enough to fit in at the bars in a campus town, I would even suggest those.

Deserter. We must exile him, those that speak to him, well your fate is already decided. Mods! Take this man's thread. Disgusting..

How am I a deserter if I am present at this very moment? I've seen threads where people just
>tfw you're all virgin betas and im chad thundercock check out this bitch i banged pic related

instead I decided to help those who wanted it possibly achieve some goals they might have. no one is forced to respond kek

Is it possible to get by with just becoming a better version of yourself or do you have to adopt a completely fake persona? I do that already to a certain degree but I really wouldn't want to have to pretend to be a normalfag considering that I just dislike them as people.

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Do not speak to me exile... You already chose your path. Let this be a reminder to you all, those that wish to "leave". There is nothing out there for you, you belong here with your own kind. This exile is not your friend. Heresy is within his words.

Don't fake it, people see through that easily. Not to hit you with the typical "just beee yourself" faggotry, but it's genuinely easier to socially interact with people when you're being just a better version of yourself.

This takes practice and can be discouraging at first if it doesn't work. That's where the discipline and confidence from getting Jow Forums comes in. It becomes easier to just brush it off and get back out there.

Responded to this Tinder thot and being outright fully autistic here worked, but this approach is definitely risky and fails 9/10 times. I use it anyway bc it better represents the autist that I am and it working the 1/10 times doing it genuinely feels way more rewarding than the 9/10 times I could fake it combined.

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Advice on a long-term relationship with a cute girl? I don't really like whores or "sexy" women. Don't like slutty clothes, piercings, etc. Muffy would be my perfect gf.

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Is it really worth it when I can just spend 16 hours a day fapping and watching anime?

thanks OP. i really should join a club but which one? should i do that after i already made gains? right now im too skinny and sperg to imagine much success if i try talking to strangers

There's a lot of factors in play with a relationship. I've been in one long term one with this cutie who was really into art. What I've noticed the most is that these girls have really fragile self-esteem.

Think about their position: their competition literally reveals all for minimal effort. They can often feel jealousy very easily. Just gotta reaffirm them very frequently. Even if you think, "oh like I tell her everyday she gets it." Nah, tell her everyday that she's qt etc.

Sometimes as a guy it can be hard to avoid glancing at some random sloot walking past with half her THICC ass out in some short shorts, but it seems like you don't even like that so that shouldn't even be a concern.

Don't wait, the gains are an ongoing process. No one is going to not approach you for being too skinny or a sperg. As long as you aren't a dick, people will accept your presence.

As for which club, do you have like a competitive vidya you like? Maybe join like a CS:GO/LoL/DoTa club or something. Hell even the fucking anime club if you're a weeb. The anime clubs actually have some qt girls so you could get some practice there. Even better bc they already expect people to be spergs/they are spergs themselves kek

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is the key to Tinder really shit like this?

My "Hey! I love your nose ring! How has your weekend been!?" thing dosent work very well.

If lifting heavy objects saved you, you were just being fucking lazy to begin with you dumb tit. Not everyone can be saved so easily.

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Appreciate the advice, user.

Also, looking at women on Tinder makes me want to put a bullet through my skull. Half of them have some stupid Instagram filter on their profile that makes them look ugly and they have "im just swiping for your dog lmao i just really love dogs", and the other half is pure THOTs

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I would feel more comfortable visiting a city then if I wanted to be more lewd it's just strange to me.

Thank you for the help user I have a question
>How do I take good Tinder pics when I have no friends or hobbies besides lifting?

Thank you very much, hopefully i can follow in your footsteps.

eh being lewd works only on tinder. i've noticed every time i try to have a normal convo it never gets anywhere or I just don't get a response. Gotta be a little bold to catch their attention in their sea of a million "Hey"s

god speed brother

only pics I have on mine with other people are with my family. Doesn't have to be friends

i only want to show you a path user, i believe you can make your own footsteps

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This all just comes off an cringe to me. No wonder I never get laid

>Untrained
Imagine being this fucking retarded.

Yeah, he trained the shit out of his shoulder bones.

Post your pics, faggot.

>Imagine being this fucking retarded.
He looks naturally slightly muscular as a build, doesn't look like he works out at all.
Maybe some sport.

>letting empowered college thot take the lead so liberated yes
Lol beta ass dude how about you post pics of that hpv riddled spic feminist or whatever and yourself to just end this thread

You're doing God's work, user. I had a period where I went off here and actually strived to improve my life instead wallowing in my autism like this whole board seems to do. I had lost about 30 pounds, made some new friends, improved my relationship with current ones. What really helped the most was having an actual sleeping schedule, because before I would just sleep and wake up whenever I wanted, which most of the time felt really bad.

I came back after getting comfortable with where I was, but I see myself reverting back to the bad me, and it's hard to get back into my good habits again, even though I had only planned on taking a short break.

Do you ever have periods like this? Is there any advice you can give on keeping up with improving yourself? It's been about a month and I'm having a bit of trouble going back, especially with my sleeping schedule.

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Stop, you both have very little understanding of how this works. He's lean with 16 inch arms and developed lats, he obviously works out. You don't get that through sports. At the very least he does body weight exercise a few times a week.

Tall people even with good genetics will look like complete skeletons if they're lean and they don't do any resistance training. His good shoulder to waist ratio wouldn't change that.

Yeah, but the other guy is fucking ripped. Meanwhile guy on the left has absolutely trash pecs.

Fren, I wanna find a gf on Tinder and/or Bumble. I don't want a hookup, but an actual gf.

I'm a uni student, but my problem is I dont have a car. Will this kill my chances with online dating?

>Tall people even with good genetics will look like complete skeletons if they're lean and they don't do any resistance training.
This is nonsense, normal physical activity will give you take look minus maybe some definition.
But no they wouldn't "look like skeletons".
You're strawmanning to someone strapped to a bed and malnourished to prove your point.

That chad has been doing the most patrician frame-building activity (swimming) for years, and the incel has been lifting, which is widely known to ruin your posture if you don't do it right (he didn't). Side note, you can tell the chad swims a lot because his jawline is droopy. That comes from breathing through your mouth excessively, as you do when you swim. Exhibit A: Michael Phelps.

Don't let any motherfucker tell you that frame (or even face) is genetic. Your choice of regular physical activity can have huge effects on your bone structure. That's without even starting on the huge difference that a change in bf% makes.

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>you can change your skeleton through exercise because prominent athletes in that sport have good frames

Why does Jow Forums glorify being a manslut? Literally only Jow Forums and other sluts think that being like this is good, or desirable in any way.

Gigacope

Orig

I didn't bring up Phelp's frame, I brought up his face. The face that you get then you spend your life with your jaw hanging slack. Look up Mike Mew, fuckhead.

But yeah, if forces regularly applied to a person's face can have such a dramatic effect, it would be absurd to suggest that they have no ability to affect the rest of the body. The skeletons of English longbowmen from the 1400s have hugely overdeveloped wrists. Do you think that's because there was a short period in English history where everyone's genes went crazy and gave them huge wrists? Of course not, the forces they applied to their wrists every day shaped their bodies.

Face it, a substantial part of Chad-dom is made, not born. You /r9cucks/ just don't want to admit it because you don't that to put in the effort to better yourselves.

Open up a tunnel to Demon World in defiance of Lord Koenma. Take up the Black Black Clubs noble work, Detective!

>decided to kill myself in a metaphorical sense

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>you can magically change your skeleton after puberty
So this is the power of autism.
>mewing
Lord. Enjoy your fucked up jaw.

Part of that is the way he leaned over and flexed his chest, but yes he is basically like a curl bro.
Stop posting you fucking idiot. Just go ask Jow Forums and they'll tell you the same thing. Few sports develop the lats much, and that wouldn't give him large arms at a low body fat.
If he is a swimmer, he works out on top of it as most of them do. Even short distance swimmers don't get large arms without it.

What club do I join if I haven't played sport in years? Don't want to join video game or anime club and ruin my reputation.

lmao rather not do either for dox reasons but hey man think what you want to

I definitely have periods like this. It's normal I'd say. Just gotta push through the beta mentality and do it. This might sound stupid but something as simple as just ignoring all thoughts and just going like "1..2...3" in my head followed by immediately doing what it is I should be doing without thought, whether that's gym or diet or work.

If it's in a uni town being on foot should be fine. I leave my car at home with my parents during the school semesters where I live on campus

Volunteer clubs are based. Who cares the cause, just find one that doesn't repulse you. The girls in these clubs are generally the hottest anyway

>Stop posting you fucking idiot. Just go ask Jow Forums and they'll tell you the same thing. Few sports develop the lats much, and that wouldn't give him large arms at a low body fat.
You sound like a dumb sissy desu.
His arms aren't even "large", I have arms that large without working out.
As others have said, he's probably into swimming, probably just recreationally

Long term? Don't get comfortable and don't let yourself become boring until you wife her.

Nothing magical about it, fuckhead. Hormesis is a completely normal feature of living creatures. It's a human body doing exactly what it should: adapt to the forces that are regularly applied to it. Just as muscles grow when you overload them, your bones also change in response to the regular appliceation of pressure. Conversely, your bones also degrade when forces are removed. Or do you think astronauts' bones can't weaken in space because muh puberty locks the human body in eternal stasis?

>mewing leads to fucked up jaws
Oh? According to you, changes to bone structure are impossible after puberty. Pick a side, bitch.

>Oh? According to you, changes to bone structure are impossible after puberty. Pick a side, bitch.
It will fuck up the joint, not the actual bone.

>You sound like a dumb sissy desu.
I actually lift weights, which I why I know what I'm talking about and didn't get my information from some retard on a look maxing forum, you fucking faggot.
>His arms aren't even "large", I have arms that large without working out.
You're either lying or you're fat. They're trained arms. He is also tall so they're bigger than they look on his body. About 1% of men in the army in 1966 had arms that size and all of them worked out. The difference was that they were much leaner than men today.

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Go to the bicep circumference section and then go hang yourself.

>escape
user, this place is my escape from the omnipresent normiedom of modern life. It's become sickening

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>Go to the bicep circumference section and then go hang yourself.
Except you have no idea what his bicep circumference actually IS dumb negro.

Also I measured my bicep flexed and they are 15" is that bad?

>Except you have no idea what his bicep
You're completely wrong. It's fairly easy to tell size just by looking someone after spending enough time in body building. Flexed bicep circumference in these studies is the exact same measurement body builders use today.
>Also I measured my bicep flexed and they are 15" is that bad?
Yes, he's about an inch bigger than you and you're fat on top of it so it's basically incomparable, you fucking retard. God I hate teenagers who invent some stupid claim and double down on it.

>You're completely wrong. It's fairly easy to tell size just by looking someone after spending enough time in body building. Flexed bicep circumference in these studies is the exact same measurement body builders use today.
Ok so you looked at a crop pic on r9k, without knowing his height and you launched yourself in a crusade because somehow you magically know his height AND bicep circumference bc u're gay
>Yes, he's about an inch bigger than you
How would you know! Mong
>and you're fat on top of it so it's basically incomparable, you fucking retard
I'm not fat and as I said I don't exercise for shit, so it's likely there are other men who moderately exercize and have bigger biceps naturally.
I can think of my cousin for instance 6'1 not doing any sports and with bigger arms than me

>God I hate teenagers who invent some stupid claim and double down on it.
You're delusional you're making all sorts of claims because u spent a week browsing Jow Forums

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