Convince me that smoking 100% natural tobacco isnt healthy. (Not talking about commercial cigarettes)
>My arguement: All the people who live to be over a hundred are chain smokers.
The sudden push for vaping, and the long battle to ban cigarrettes, even commercial ones has lead me to dive deeper into this topic.
Go for a run, then smoke a cigarette, then go for a run after smoking. Is there a difference in performance?
Smoking natural tobacco is still bad for you and will increase your chance for cancer while tarring up your lungs. What even lead you to believe that natural tobacco smoking would be better. All of the people who lived over 100 while smoking are just lucky exceptions. My grandfather was of great health his entire life before dying of lung cancer from smoking at the ripe old age of 60.
Why wouldn’t it be bad? You’re inhaling fucking smoke dipshit. Go breath the smoke from a forest fire or a pile of burning leaves and tell me how you feel.
It burns your lungs. It burns. Your tissues.
Yeah user it's great for you. You should smoke every day, you'll live to a hundred no problem. :)
youre onto something op. keep investigating
>muh running
That's what cars are for retard
lmao
People who chain smoke and live over 100 would have lived the same if they didnt smoke as well. Its a genetic thing about tendency to get cancer I think. If you have iron genes you are basically invincible. My great grandpa used to smoke a pack a day and lived until 96. Grandpa smoked since he was 10 died at 70.
>The sudden push for vaping, and the long battle to ban cigarrettes, even commercial ones has lead me to dive deeper into this topic.
And you found that inhaling any smoke that is product of burnt stuff is always bad for your healt. Congrats, delete the thread now.
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Despite being a troll thread i honestly think that in small moderation smoking natural tobacco isn't that bad for you. Occasional like once a day max smoking with minimal full inhale is probably neither good nor bad for you. The problem is that nicotine can be pretty addicting if you let yourself fall into the trap and start starting off the day with a ciggy.
nicotine has been associated with "brain health" for a good while. It is a nootropic substance, that is, helps in cognitive activities, which is why the majority of writers/philosophers smoked. It is also why nicotine has been proven to help prevent Alzheimer's and Parkinson's diseases.
That said, a man that eats healthy, exercise regularly and smokes cigars/pipes occasionally will be much healthier than 99% of the population. Pipes/cigars, specially the former, are associated with a kind of ritual that is very similar to meditating, so it is also very relaxing. Unless you are smoking 10 cigars a day I don't see how it could become a problem.
Do women really care about penis size or does it not matter too much
I'm a runner and a smoker. I managed to go from a 19 minute 2 mile to a 15 minute after an entire year of training. Running a 5 miler on monday, interval training on wednesday and rucking with 45lbs for 12 miles on thursday with a 5k run at a 6:30-7:30/mile pace. I reached a plateau for 6 months, it wasnt after I picked up smoking that my run time started decreasing. From aug 2017 - july 2018 I was in europe and started smoking halfway. When I came back to the states I had reached a 13 min two mile. My lungs just begin working at their best after I smoke tobacco.
On a related note is smoking a hookah bad for you? I mean you don't inhale the smoke so i don't really see a problem.
They care only for the purpose of psychological manipulation. They understand it's an insecurity and inherit vulnerability they can easily exploit for their agenda.
They do, not as much as you think.
You most likely like for a woman to have a decently sized ass, but you if you come in contact with a cutie and you enjoy her company even if she doesn't meet that requirement you probably will still fuck.
It's the same with girls.
Ye alright. What about female penis
Partial combustion of organic material produces all kinds of unhealthy substances:
>CO
Bonds with your red blood cells and renders them useless.
>tar
Clogs up your lungs, some parts of it are carcinogenic
>fine dust
carcinogenic
>nicotine
neurotoxin
And the list goes on, vaping isn't healthy either, but it eliminates the CO, tar, fine dust and many other carcinogens.
Where do you live? Fight me.
I smoke over a pack and half of American Spirits per day, I'm 33 and work from home as a Civil Engineer. Smoking since 16. No health problems. Cigarette effects are genetic. I still lift and jog 4 miles daily with liberal my vegan neighbor health nut.
no i agree with you, there are NO studies on 100% natural cigs. all studies are on commercial cigs, filled with chemicals, on ur avg fat american who obviously never exercises or anything.
smoke away bro hehe
Based
Cycle smoking,
I know you retards won't take that seriously, but this is the answer.
I smoke 3-4 months a years, usually summer months. Have been doing this for years.
Not for the faint of heart though, ceasing smoking cold turkey can be hard for a weak willed person.
I unironically believe that smoking decreases your odds for baldness. Almost every chain smoker I've ever known have had thick hair way into their 60s, with a much higher proportion of early baldness occurring in those who don't smoke.
There isn't going to be much of a difference as most of the harmfull chemicals get produced by the combustion process.
u dont understand bro, natural cigs are made with 0 chemicals. thats why they are called natural
Smoking IS bad for you and CAN lead to serious health complications.It still gives you cancer*. If you want to smoke do it but you don't need talk with the echo chamber to sound back your own ideas. Anything* other than air shouldn't go into your lungs
Yep, American spirits are my go-to's nowadays as well. I started off with filtered Lucky Strikes in europe. As far as your comment on negative cigarette effects being genetic I think its still too rare of a factor to account on both ends.
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The additives are what kill you not the tobacco itself. Isolate the tobacco and there shouldnt be a problem. The additives are put into the cigarette to increase the draw, improve flavor, create a stronger addiction ect. I havent seen a study on 100% natural tobacco either as far as this topic goes its unfortunately one of those "I see seemingly healthy groups of people doing this so let me try it as well". Homeopathy basically.
Thats also because most American smokers eat a lot of meat and drink. When you smoke or drink you become slightly dehydrated which makes you crave B vitamins and Omega-3s. What do you usually eat after a night of drinking? A plate of Steak, eggs and bacon with a side of butter.
and don't forget a nice refreshing glass of orange jews to wash all of it down.
My great grandpa was korean nobility
He never did jack other than smoke tobacco out of his long skinny pipe in his estate all day long
I inherited that love of tobacco but i can tell you, I do feel worse. I quit occasionally and hike around las montañas en mi area. After a few times my lungs feel better. I am not nobility after all I dont want to sit on my ass.
Then again he did live to 90.
Guranteed this user is the same type of person to say that smoking weed is healthier than smoking cigarettes. Despite both having a combustion process. Why are there visible health benefits on smoking natural weed but not natural tobacco?
The chinese believe the key to a long life is staying cool and relaxing. So sit back with the ac on, pipe in hand and relax man.
Based noble bugperson.
Very weak argument, the canonical response to the correlation between tobacco and longevity
Completely different things. I bet you smoked paper as a kid thinking it would be like real cigarettes
No, it's about the same thing, which is why you cough up a lung when you smoke for the first time. There is nothing in tobacco that makes it less dangerous than any other burning plant matter.
You're supposed to inhale hookah, m8, it's very mild.
Also, American Spirits have ammonia in them like any other cigarette brand, in order to make it more addictive. Don't think the natural tagline makes it healthier than other cigarettes. Smoke is smoke.
>it's about the same thing
Why do I even bother talking to retards on this website
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Some army training guy my friend knows recommends a smoke before running. Obviously chain smoking every day will fuck you up long term.
But natural tobacco without the things they put in cigarettes can improve performance but we're talking 1-3 times a week not habitual smoking
lmao
Forest smoke is only especially dangerous because of the quantity of particulates, not the composition of it.
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Coping addicts, the thread.
Tobacco smoke paralyzes your lungs so they can't expel whatever they need to expel, as a consequences, those bad things add up in there and give you cancer.
you can smoke cigars and pipes and not become addicted. It's not even self control, is about not being compulsive.
pipes/cigars are not inhaled
It just isn't... fucking retard. Imagine being this braindead.
you improve with tobacco but that's a mental block that you are medicating
Takes the cigarettes out of her mouth gently.
"Come now, sweetie, you know that these are bad for you"
Hold her chin and lean in for a small gentle kiss.
Lock eyes and smile innocently while i pinch her cheeks softly
"Let's go for a walk on the beach, shall we ? Cleanse those lungs"
Native american traditions included smoking kanikanik and tabbaco, I think they just did like a puff in the morning tho.
Get a tabacco bong and smoke single hits
>self-reporting
>carbon monoxide seemed to have a calming effect and to counteract the stress caused by the crowds and the noise
>ignoring every other point
Did you just google "carbon monoxide good for you"? It's not surprising something that literally decreases oxygen flow to the brain calms you down it's supressing your noggin
I honestly do think it's genetic, I don't know if the science supports it but being Cuban everyone in my family smokes and funnily enough the one person who never smoked in my family ends up with lung problems. While my father and grandparents have fine working lungs.
If you walk through a tobacco field naked you will die of over exposure of nicotine. The non processed leaf is so potent its literally like a nicotine patch, what do you think burning and inhaling it does to youre lungs? Even cigars have to wash and dry the leaves at least twice so you dont get nauseous/puke/passout after smoking one.
What does that have to do with smoking it? The raw unprocessed versions of many products are vastly more dangerous than the processed versions. You've made no point other than an attempt at a scare tactic.
>Convince me
I don't give a fuck about what you think.
Now do the same run with a 12 hours lapse after you smoked. Can you see how retarded you are for smoking before working out?
I always bike with a smoke in my mouth and i've never seen any decrease in my performance
>the same with girls
dunno man, i disagree
yes, natural tobacco in pipes and cigars are MUCH stronger than the chemical tobacco in cigarettes but you do not inhale it, your body absorbs the tobacco through muccus in the mouth.
Wow, are you me? I typically do this when I'm cutting because smoking curbs appetite. In the fall/winter, I quit cold turkey. Been doing this for years.
>please confirm my biases that directly disagree with decades of research
Fuck off
All im saying is natural tobacco straight off the plant will get you loose as fuck, i havent tried it myself but my retarded brother picked a leaf rolled it up and smoked it. After the first hit he turned pale and started dry heaving lol.
To me "natural" means from the source to your lungs without anything done to it, could be something different in your case like washing/drying and shit could be ok.
My brother also said closest to natural stuff hes smoked was american spirit black rolling tobacco, 100% perique, made me feel like my brain was being pulled from my body because of how strong it was.
Honestly i dont think smoking is AS harmful as "experts" make it out to be. Just my opinion tho
>63 replies
>nobody's stated the obvious
tobacco smells like utter shit
Hasn't there been a study that shows, pipe smokers of natural tobacco can keep lung capacity with non smokers?
I remember an user redpilled a thread with an essay about it
Never understand people stoping because it's unhealthy. First of all smockers stink like dead animals. Your breath is like you have suck a turd. Also the taste is just as the smell. You need more debate here ?
I hate smockers
Appealing to tradition.
Cannabis-smoking increases lungs-performance metrics also; it's plausibly from simple inhalation practicing.
>convince me smoke inhalation isn't healthy
Fucking moron.
t. never tried cigar or pipe
Just a guess, but I'd probably be tired from my first run...
smoking fills your lungs with tar and chemicals. it paralyzes the cillia in your lungs. Those are the cells that rid of lungs of bad shit. it also kills cells and basically reduces the amount of oxygen your lungs can absorb there for reducing the amount of oxygen in your blood traveling to your organs. not enough oxygen = cells begin to start dying. so you're basically killing yourself one cell at a time
72 posts later... Great bait OP
>point: millions of people die each year from lung cancer and other shit caused by smoking
>counterpoint/dumbfuck """argument""": BUT WUT ABOUT DIS ONE GUY WHO LIVED 2 B 100 DIS PROVES DAT CIGARETTES MAKE U LIVE 4EVER
Kill yourself