So is there any such thing as a guy who doesn't put his hands on you...

theres plenty of guys like that though, i met my current gf via a friend group

first date was going to a nice museum and walking along the river thames ending at the borough market for a nice fresh lunch whilst showing her my campus

i was autistically going on about the exhibits at the museum and we got into an elevator alone and she kissed me, i didnt even initiate it

That's a really cute story actually but there's not a lot of guys like you.

god i wish that were me.jpg

how literally was that not an original comment? holy fuck

>lunch at borough market
cool story, tourist

>don't initiate touch
>never get to touch a woman

women don't have the slightest clue what life is like. they're all completely unable to empathize with anything.

What are you getting at exactly? What's so fucking hard about waiting for me to initiate? I already know he wants it. He doesn't have to say or do anything for me to know he wants to be touched. So what exactly is it about waiting for me to do it that's so hard? I really want to fucking know. Do you walk up to food in a store and just start eating it? No, you pay for it first. So why can't you invest actual time and bonding before you get to touch me?

Doubt you could answer any of these questions.

Want to add to that: Sorry that as a man you see cumming as easy as taking a shit but for a woman for me there's actually a spiritual connection and bonding element that I want with touch and sex first.

Why don't y'all just get animal bfs

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>What are you getting at exactly?
if i don't touch them, i never get to touch them, they never touch me, they're too chicken shit, they want to play dicktease games.

>What's so fucking hard about waiting for me to initiate?
nothing. it never happens.

>So what exactly is it about waiting for me to do it that's so hard?
nothing. it never happens. (asking the same thing over again)

>Do you walk up to food in a store and just start eating it?
No, I'm a rational person, we exist.

>So why can't you invest actual time and bonding before you get to touch me?
I have many times. Anyway, sorry about your scorn, guess you'll just be like this forever, that's unfortunate lol.

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Maybe you aren't someone worth them wanting to touch. Sounds like it to me. I wouldn't go out with you.

no, they allow me to initiate touching them, the alternate option you hadn't thought of. your problem is your troll is really shitty and obvious, imo.

Yes, there are many autistic men with 0 testosterone, they're usually ugly so you won't want them though.

Have you thought of just getting a vibrator if you're this socially retarded?

reminds me of when you go spend time in a ward and they tell you one of the rules is to not touch people because apparently some people get really fucking anxious or something with contact
nobody there really gave a shit
i doubt anyone there had that disorder
i made out with a really cute girl in the games closet and i wish i still knew her
heres the (you)

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I don't like touching people because they are gross and covered in germs

I hate it, errrrr, when male coworkers want to get by me from behind in the hallway, with plenty of room by the way, and they touch my lower back as they pass. They think just because they say pardon I don't know what this is.

Oh, and there is this male bartender that always touches my hand. I loudly asked him "whats your problem" last time

And friends and I in Vegas and these guys come up and put their arm over our shoulders and try to steer us in the opposite direction of where we were going

You are also covered in germs

If men don't initiate touch no one does
You're not a crazy feminist you're biologically defunct

you just said many many times that it never happens..........??????????? wat???????

Men like you are the absolute worse.

You just said:
>it never happens.
>nothing. it never happens. (asking the same thing over again)

But now you are saying it does happen? Other women might have lower values and just let you do that but I'm not like them.

You're probably just autistic. As funny as it sounds, don't date another autist. Find a functional human being and explain that you're autistic and hate being touched. After they reject you, come back and post nudes to Not your personal blog, fag.

I love being touched I just want full control during that especially the first time. Not my fault your gender has problems with that.

>autistic women sperging out because non-chads dare to touch them

I am one of those people. I don't touch people for the because I bet they feel violated when I do. On the other hand I will defend myself if you touch me in any way. I've almost knocked out my sister for trying to hug me and I cannot stand people touching me. It's probably autism.

Whatever, sperg. It's not just my gender, it's all of humanity. You're broken, it's not our fault you're a freak.

You have to buy a robot that you program from scratch, you're not going to get full control over any encounter with another living human being, from talking to the lady at the cash register, to fucking your tinder Chad.

Sounds like you want to control and dominate some dude with no self esteem.

What if he's your husband and you've been married for 5 years? Does he still need permission to touch your arm or hug you?

Autistic bitch

She wants Chad to manhandle her in the exact way she wants to be manhandled and pretend that he's in control and that he's making her do it, but if he does something wrong that's not on her autistic list she'll cry rape, that's basically all women now, they're completely fucked in the head.

This is why high IQ men have gone strictly homosexual now.

if you're getting groped its because you're attracted to assholes like a typical slag

I've never groped/touched a female even when i was drunk and all the brads were doing it. It's not normal

I don't use tinder because i dont want to get raped.

Are you going to take the initiative and ASK a guy out first? You still want guys to make the first move and lead the relationship? It sounds like you should make the first move and handle the dating.

I do that already. If you mean asking the guy and choosing when, where, all that shit. Than yes, I do that every time.

If she does all that she won't be attracted to the guy anymore.

Your genes don't deserve to reproduce, autist. Just die alone.

Guys are just under a lot of pressure because they are told they must take charge, be confident, and decide everything or girls Will lose interest. It's a non stop guessing game especially in this environment where conflicting messages of toxic masculinity and being assertive the way girls want but walk a tightrope of not appearing too beta and get dumped

The overwhelming majority of women expect men to be aggressive like that. Socially and individually, it's just how things are. That's how we're supposed to act.

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>ITT Control Freaks show you on the doll where daddy touched them

I make a point to not touch girls until they make first contact because I know if they want it they'll do it themselves. Hell I've gotten hugs and hand holding without even flirting before, feels pretty nice to make that connection first and then get some physical contact. Means a lot more to me.

I mean, you're kinda in a tough spot. I'm super uncomfortable with touching people, especially girls, and I've pretty much given up on dating for that exact reason. Everyone constantly tells me that asking for permission to kiss you or not hugging you by the end if the date is a turn off.
I don't want to blame women for this, but at the end of the day the type of guy you want exists, he's just told you don't like him. pls bee my gf

>Guys are just under a lot of pressure because they are told they must take charge, be confident, and decide everything or girls Will lose interest.
This is really all that needs to be said.

Yes but they will be robots and not chads.

>Everyone constantly tells me that asking for permission to kiss you or not hugging you by the end if the date is a turn off.
It is. I prefer he not ask and just wait for me to initiate. But I'd still prefer he'd ask instead of just going for it like most men do. But I don't see how men don't know that women KNOW that you want it all the time. Just wait for us to initiate then. We already know that's all you think about.

>But I don't see how men don't know that women KNOW that you want it all the time.
I dunno. All I know is that for some reason I'm expected to do all the work.
Personally, I did/do just wait for her to initiate, and that's why I'm probably never gonna get a gf. Forgive me if this is a little unfair, but I'm having trouble empathizing with the problem of "Too many people like me! Help!" when I'm dealing with "Nobody likes me."

>I prefer he not ask and just wait for me to initiate.
You are in the minority.

> So is there any such thing as a guy who doesn't put his hands on you?

The answer is yes.

I was a khhv all the way up to age 38. As a successful and wealthy person, I could afford to use professional introduction services to meet women. Over the years, I probably met with 4 or 5 dozen women that way. In none of those meetings did I ever touch her in any way.

Some of us are modest, restrained, non-promiscuous people.

> Or is that just too much to ask?

No, it's not too much to ask. Simply ask him ahead of time if he is a modest, restrained, decent person. If he really is, then he won't be offended by your question, because he will already know how rare he is, and he will understand why you have to ask.

>ignore unassertive men
>until it's time to find someone to accuse of the unwanted actions of assertive men