Why are you all so depressed on a board about fitness?

Why do you feel depressed in general, what is it? Can you point the finger at it?

Sucks man, in your case keep it up, mind over matter my man. We are not eternal.

i want to shoot myself in the head i think i'm going to do it pretty soon. i go to the gym every other day but my life is going nowhere. there aren't any ways to meet remotely like-minded people where I live and I can't afford to move. it seems so pointless to keep going to the gym i just do it out of discipline and because it's something cathartic and familiar to me

Done too many things I'm not proud of.

Well, then why are we so sarcastic and toxic to eachother? Isn't health a serious topic? Why all the nihilism?

Why do you feel that finding a woman is going to be a solution to your peoblems?
Why do you think all society is the same?
Why do you need "true friends" to achieve your goals?

>Well, then why are we so sarcastic and toxic to eachother?
because most of the people here aren't interested in helping other people, they just want to feel superior

>Why do you feel depressed
I work at a stressful shit job. I have no social life. Too embarrassed and anxious to go out. Still live with my parents because I'd probably jump off a bridge from the loneliness if I moved on my own.
I see people my age getting married and having kids and I have barely even had the courage to talk to a girl in my life.

They say a healthy body makes a healthy mind, but I'm just as depressed now as I was when I could only squat 100lbs. Just because I'm Jow Forums doesn't mean I made any friends, or even learned how to talk to people. I don't even know what I want to do with my life. I didn't go to college, I quit my job a year ago and still can't find another, I live with my parents, and obviously I'm fucking poor. I have no hobbies or interests besides playing video games, watching anime, going to the gym, reading, and browsing Jow Forums. Nothing was different when I had a job. Nothing will change if I go to college for however many years. I don't even care about getting stronger or looking better since I've reached a point where I'm just about comfortable with myself and don't want to get bigger.

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I swear I heard or read before that this is actually fairly common.
"Serious" actors will piss themselves in shots that don't need to show below the waste instead of breaking character or stopping filming.

It's just shit talk with the boys get over it, Stop taking it so seriously.

only highschool kids and blue collar deadbeats talk like this

time to grow up user

But if you can't help others how can you help yourself? Helping others with whatever is in your strength/knowledge is when you learn. What one learns the most is empathy, something that does wounders to depression for example. Give empathy, recieve empathy. Surrounding yourself with nihilism harbors nihilism.

If you end up peniless on the street tomorrow what would be your reaction? Apart of course of killing yourself which is something majority think but not really want to do, again we are humans we all want some love and harmony. But do we love ourselves first? Can we rely on ourselves when shit hits the fan? or we will end up addicts under a bridge? Material/status can be temporary, self acceptance and independece is life long. Don't like the job or your situation? Do something about it. Small steps towards the right direction is better than big leaps towards the void.

We are all cool in our comfort zone, but you mentioned that:
>Just because I'm Jow Forums doesn't mean I made any friends, or even learned how to talk to people.
Now explain how fitness is going to fix or replace human interaction if you don't seek it?

>I have no hobbies or interests besides playing video games
Video games is cool and all but it's a time sink, a time waster, time that is gone never to return. Every year you spend on this frutiless hobby will sink you deeper into depression. What makes us depressed is no action over time paired with lack of energy. Which leads to the question: How many times do you masturbate every day and for how long is this going on? Do you feel any attraction or interest to avarage human beings anymore?

>Nothing will change if I go to college for however many years.
How do you know if you didn't even try? Do you think video games will change anything?

>Why are you all so depressed on a board about fitness?

>Please explain.
Because depressed people have the highest level of motivation to achieve extroadinary physiques.

Either jump in or jump out. Anyone can be healthy and "fit"... but we know what this board is all about.

Jow Forums is inhabited by freaks who want aesthetics (Zyzz mode or bblder mode), powerlifting stats, or a rare user honestly focused on health

this is a subculture and a strange one, like many it brings something positive out if poeple

Some people write poetry, make art, build engines or code software. Some anons here do that as their 9-5...

But most people here want to build a physical avitar that is pushing some limits in terms of appearance or performance

If anons would realize how cool of a niche' or persona this actually is, they would be less mentality burdened.

Jow Forums is the best board true story

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>If you end up peniless on the street tomorrow what would be your reaction?
I guess something like pic. I'm the type of guy who gets a heart attack in the middle of a crowd and is too ashamed to ask for help.

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Check out little bitch boy.
Made it to sophomore year of college and thinks he's an adult now.

Listen fancy pants, stick and stones.

Your grandparents didnt cry like you do.

>no job
>no gf
>no frens
>family hates me
Well at least i'm fit and healthy ahaha

This is a hopeless basement dwelling neckbeard weeb website first, and a fitness board second
We're just the middle ground of the paradoxical venn diagram

this is why we need more bullying in schools

>damn I look like shit I should lift
>lifts
>damn Im buttugly whats the point
>sad
>no lift
>damn I look like shit again I should lift
>lifts
>damn

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But asking for help is a sign of strength not the opposite my man. Giving help elevates you even further. But first help yourself, forgive yourself. Majority of people here were dealt a bad hand, we grew up in a time where human interaction is being chipped away by technology. Does it mean we should kill ourselves? If our ancestors did the same in the face of change would you and me even be here now?

>But asking for help is a sign of strength not the opposite my man
it sucks m8 but you only ever hear this online. ask for help irl and people will think you're weak. ask for help at work and your boss will be interviewing replacements before the end of the week.

Whoever you are seriosly it's ok my man. You don't have to show a thick skin, it's just another coping mechanism, let it go.

Just because you grew up surrounded by hate doesn't make you a bad person.

I feel you my man, we live in an age of passive aggressiveness, surrounded by predatorial behaviour and severe lack of empathy, but there is hope and every positive decision you make not only shapes you but also the world around you.

Our isolation led us to this horrible baseless aggression.

Hate?

What are you even on about.

I remember when I was sad about everything and thought my feelings mattered. That was 20 years ago when I was a teenager.

You know what doesnt seal a leaky pipe? Feelings.
You know what doesnt move a pile of bricks?
Feelings.
You know what doesn't provide for and protect a family?
Feelings.
You know doesnt win a war?
Feelings.

Be a man.
Be a man.
Be a man.

B A S E D.

Man are allowed to cry and to laugh too. It's ok and it's natural. If you stuff your emotions you end up dying inside.

What would attract you more personally: a friend that is honest, funny and open, or someone who has your current outlook and behaviour?

It's a proven sociological fact that people prefer to associate themselves with those that most resemble them in behavior, mannerisms and opinion.

So to to answer your question, I will not be your friend because I dont befriend faggots or women.

Well, then it's ok too. As long as you don't physically assault anyone and feel happy about your current life style, good for you.

Being a man doesnt mean being violent, brainlet.

Get back to your trans femme nonbinary safe space, you and your otherkin allies can cuddle stuffed animals and speak in whisper.

Post bodies with timestamp faggots

I have observed Jow Forums for while, my opinion is quite different. I see people with a big potential and capacity yet they focus on something that they deep inside know may not matter. Muscles are just muscles, how you feel inside you can't fix with just the weights.

Usually anons who are dedicated to improve their health are the least vocal ones aswell. Because of the unapproachable toxicity one encounters in many threads.

Cant.
I'm at an airport flying home across the ocean from multiple meetings with CEOs in my Chad role as global sales.

I was happy freshmen year of college but then I got injured in the gym and got really depressed and kind of spiraled downhill. Once you familiarize the feeling of sadness it's really hard to forget. Was diagnosed with OCD/Depression and put on Zoloft and the suicidal thoughts went away thankfully. Can't wait to hopefully get a good job and make some decent money and probably feel exactly the same as I do right now but with more pointless shit to buy and more distractions. That's the dream I guess.

cope
lurk moar

Tfw Jow Forums after 3 years gave me body dysmorphia. Still hate my old body more then, I take every opportunity to go topless now

I'm not muscular or "fit" by this board standards at all, I usually hike or do cyclling. I have a bit of beer belly as a matter of fact something I cut out recently so I can pedal further one day. I just visit this board time to time to see how you guys doing.

Why do you have a need to insult me? did I insult you? Also I love cuddling, I give hugs to all my friend, especially the "faggot" ones. Beats stuffed animals any day.

It's okay user were here for you.

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You see this is where after "lurking" here the this thread question came up.

A board about fitness that makes you feel bad? This is not healthy at all.

Because you are inferior to me. My insults with either cull your DNA from the gene pool, or make you change into a better man.

>ALL OF YOU NEED TO STOP BEING FAGGOT BITCHES AND CHANGE YOUR TAMPON.
>STRUGGLE IS MANHOOD. LIFT UNTIL YOU LOVE YOURSELF.

Well now you could try at least harder my man. Thank for the bumps.

I can't exactly argue that. But to me Jow Forums has roots in vanity. Maybe your understanding of vanity and what could cause it looks much deeper. I am a harmless but surface level creature by choice but I was mostly intellectual during my formative years.

I would venture to say most of Jow Forums has some type of scare or burden to carry, but like my original post... That's the best part. Everyone here is either looking to transcend something or transform themself.

Why? That's going to be different for each individual user, but we all have that life archetype in common.

You just realize how much genetically inferior you are compared to the upper 10% of men. And how much women hate you.

I have to admit that the creativity that comes from this board is great sometimes. I just wish we were a bit more empathetic to each other.. Imagine the things we could achieve that way.

While "Jow Forums" in general might grow you a thick virtual skin, real life is a different matter. At some point all this nihilism and abuse makes one feel like a victim of an unknown crime.

Thats life man. This board just makes you realise your faults and you keep the guilt at not being good enough.
I'd rather be where I am now though. Its a bitter pill to swallow

There is no such thing as perfection, not being good enough is something only you as individual can measure depending on your character and/or needs. This board became more about seeking approval than actually sitting down and truly as you say realise your faults. Which is something that a person over internet without knowing who you trully are can't fix by just calling you a "faggot". Quite the opposite actually.

...

>Man are allowed to cry and to laugh too. It's ok and it's natural. If you stuff your emotions you end up dying inside.
Found the leftist kike faggot
Imagine thinking that men being dead inside is not the way to go

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Fuck off

Thanks for the bump

>sarcastic and toxic

it's actually pretty good, there's a fair amount of banter and shit-talk but with posts talking about how they hit a personal max or want to get better etc, Jow Forums are pretty decent

>What would attract you more personally: a friend that is honest, funny and open, or someone who has your current outlook and behaviour?
What would attract me the most ?
A woman without a dick if possible so go pilpul somewhere else

>Well, then why are we so sarcastic and toxic to eachother?
Do you know an other way to be ?

some of us are in a shitty place and fitness is one aspect of our lives we can improve

it's also roughly linear progress with measurable results and attainable goals, so is an easy aspect of life to improve

>Well, then why are we so sarcastic and toxic to eachother? Isn't health a serious topic? Why all the nihilism?

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Yes, my story is simple. I visit this place (not really Jow Forums but other boards) since 2009. From that year until 2015 I fell into deep depression, this site was the only place I thought was rational. Well guess what? The moment I cut the crap and got out of my comfort zone, my anger vanished slowly. At first it was terrifying, I fucked up a ton, I was rejected, I was even more angry than ever but eventually through persistence and observation of average human condition (not the online one, the real one) I got to know people, people now want to see me, talk to me, hear my advice, heck even touch me. Before that everyone was my enemy, and I had similar behaviour to the toxic individuals ITT. It got me nowhere but to hardcore cocaine and booze addiction.

I now vivist Jow Forums as a nostalgia trip once every few months, clean, balanced, happy. It's still saddens me that some anons think that this behaviour is actually good.

>I now vivist Jow Forums as a nostalgia trip once every few months, clean, balanced, happy.
Sure buddy, whatever help you sleeping but that residual feeling you got once every few months that attract you here is the results of all the lies you keep telling yourself...
Just face it, life for men is not about happiness, tenderness, finding a friend to share openness, it is all about struggle, rudeness, depression because of all the lies we got fed with...

>Liam Peeson

I mostly visit to suggest things or ask things like ITT (I study psychology now) heck now that I made this thread and while some anons might never admit it or belittle me or laugh at me, some other anons will take some points quietly and aim towards something more positive for their future. Knowing that is enough for me.

I love you guys, but don't eat eachothers life energy away, you can do better. Jow Forums creates layers and layers of insecurities without curing anything. Cut the crap out and actually learn something about the real world, even if it's for a while.

We come here to fix the depression by drowning our feelings in iron

>I love you guys, but don't eat eachothers life energy away, you can do better.
Dude we love you too but stop going full retard!
All your disgusting love & unbearable goodness will get sucked in by this black hole named Jow Forums

I got out in 2015, what don't kill you..

Observing you from event horizon lmao.

what do you do for work?

a girl started talking to me and then i got attached and now every minute i spend waiting for a reply to my messages is an infinity of pain

There is nothing worse than neediness, it's a total turn off. Do you have things to do? Any goals or objectives for the day? Just go on with them. Your life priorities > anyone else. Being less available is chad, it means you are busy withyour life. Being more available/needy screams passivity and puts you in the "nice guy" territory.

If anything take your time to reply. An hour? two? nope can take as much as you want.

>he doesn't engage in shit talk with his best friends

what, are you gay or something?

i reply pretty quickly but i don't bother her all the time when not replying, and she doesn't leave me on read or anything she just genuinely doesn't use her phone much. the real problem is that in the beginning i wasn't thinking of her that way and i was in a real good place mentally so the conversation was fun and lighthearted and then i caught feelings and now i can't stop myself from trying to cheer her up and shit like that.

yes, I am. and there's nothing wrong with that either.

>because most of the people here aren't interested in helping other people, they just want to feel superior
Projector can't take the bants. If only there were sites more to your liking.

banter is low IQ

My advice would be to meet her in person as soon as possible (when you feel like you know enough about eachother, and as man you should be the first to ask her out of course) if she rejects to see you in person, something is fishy.

Usually people on social media like tinder, facebook, kik whatever don't really want a real relationship and seek attention, watch out for that and set clear boundaries. Don't let people use you like their attention puppet and always try to meet people in person, the whole experience will be completely different.

i did ask her if she wanted to go do something together on monday and she said yes, but i'm gonna have to confirm that soon since she wasnt sure if she had the day off. maybe i'm not going so bad, thanks brah.

Banter projects insecurity and so does anger. Being playful with people you know is fun, but belittling strangers behind keyboard is a form of self medication.

Then you good, just don't push her. If she can't be cool with it and appoint another day.

I think many of us are socially incompetent or outcasts or unhappy with significant aspects of our lives. Jow Forums is like the only self improvement board, so it makes sense that we also share our feelings here too.

I do agree that some self improvement is present. But behind each self improvement thread there are many threads about drowning yourself and others in self imposed sorrow.

If we were a war veteran board it would be more understandable, but some of us a pushing 30s, never left our room and dig a deeper hole day after day by "feeling you bras" but not doing anything about it.

youtube.com/watch?v=xNgQOHwsIbg

acquiring social skills takes decades. it cant be done overnight for a vast majority people. is it really that surprising that a big chunk of us are downers? I try my best to improve my life, lost weight, picked up hobbies, got a job, but despite all that i dont feel any better and i dont consider my life to have improved in the last 10 years

Fitness and a healthy life style satisfies the internal validation but many of us are still lacking the external validation.
I get that you're meant to not care about what other people think and trust that you are an awesome person but it does feel a bit forced unless you know you are appreciated by at least a few people.

I have already worked through my troubles of feeling like i'm not worth it, now i just need another person to tell me that i'm worth it without directly telling me that.

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>about drowning yourself and others in self imposed sorrow.

Well obviously because a lot of people with utterly fucked genes exist.

Ugly 5'3'' men can improve their lives but they are still short and ugly.

>but it does feel a bit forced unless you know you are appreciated by at least a few people

People are good for our mental health that's why one should socialize IRL, but our goals should come first, people second.

Most of us get depressed due to lack of energy (excesive masturbation which triggers passivity one of the main reasons) combined with lack of goals (no one told us what to do so we don't bother and blame everything but us) so we seek external approval and demand quick results like as if life or "society" owes us something. It doesn't.

It's the definition of impatience right there. How about you eat it up and go meet people, make a fool of yourself, then rinse and repeat? Eventually you will see how people in general mean shit in your life. it's all you.

Check out John Belushi.

Fat, short, inappropriate but also admired by everyone while he lasted. Do you think lifting weights did that?

Low t detected

Your testosterone levels determine your entire life. Having low testosterone is the absolute worst that can happen to a man, because it defines you on a fundamental level. If you have low test it is because you are too sensitive to your environment and that is nothing you want your children to have. So on a biological level you are a deadend, an experiment of nature that failed and by reproducing you are responsible for another life of constant pain.

Unfortunately Depression (real, not tumblrina self-diagnosed) doesn't necessarily need a reason. However, so much of the dominant culture just hates young men and represses them so completely that an anonymous image board where we congregate is the last honest outlet some of us have.

>Having low testosterone is the absolute worst that can happen to a man

Most of low test is caused by porn. Most people would laugh at nofappers, but that's how normal males lived before the invention of consumable pornography.

Sticking your D is the only valid way, if you don't, your body takes care of itself.

One in 100 million celebrities dont count

I still developed gyno. Nofap is not the panacea.

That's a loser talk. If you think you worth shit it's exactly what's going to happen. Nothing is free or instant in this life. Even celebs put their asses out there and tried.

youtube.com/watch?v=eWJVvNptHZ4

Wtf

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