Historically it wasn't that big a deal. Especially back when workplaces were mostly full of men, keeping a wife wasn't hard. Women wanted a provider and weren't as tempted to stray as they are now by dating apps.
Life really was better for everyone. Sure, less attractive women had to settle for less attractive local men, but then they were more likely to receive real affection and care of some kind because men back then were less hardened and cynical. The local notable men married pretty young women, and yes they sometimes strayed a bit but mostly things worked out in the wash, no-one had perfect relationships but most people had SOMETHING.
Women felt valued because most men who ended up in relationships or marriage with them did so on the basis of either formal introductions or at least chance encounters in person which at least made them SEEM more meaningful.
Even sexual degeneracy was somehow better in the old days. You had more flings that lasted weeks or months, rather than one night stands. "Chad" as he is called now mostly stuck to his own natural counterparts because of social barriers and time constraints, which meant that the local old widow, spinster or "wild girl" would actually be more likely to appreciate attention from men who had failed to settle down, i.e. the timid young man, the crusty old bachelor, the old guy who still had a glint in his eye.
Technology has totally fucked up everything, because it's taken away the human and chance element from everything. As online dating replaces meatspace dating, meatspace dating is becoming more and more socially unusual now that women are all getting validation from 7/10+ guys online and so are less and less welcoming of any attention from IRL men especially less attractive guys.
tl;dr Technology ruined what we now call "casual sex," just like it ruined marriages, politics, and the more you think about it, almost any aspect of human social life there is
how do you know any of this, faggot? you never lived in history
Gabriel Powell
early 2000's dating was way different than dating nowadays dating nowadays is "HUHUHUH DO YOU WANNA BE MY GIRLFRIEND" and then it just ends up being a one night stand
Jayden Gray
30yo boomers remember life before dating apps, there was the internet back then but things were still different
Anyone under 25 even has no idea how much different life used to be that few years ago. Weve paid for our redpills through literally every other aspect of social life being turned to shit
Owen Russell
The basement dwelling virgins of Jow Forums told him so. They wouldn't lie to him!
Kayden Ramirez
You're one of those teenagers that has no idea though
Landon Collins
>you have to be a literal Nazi to hate online dating
Were reaching levels of roastie that shouldnt be possible
Women wanted to pay all their expenses and in exchange they were stuck at home, now they want all their expenses paid just for nothing.
Evan Powell
Found the basement dwelling virgin from Jow Forums.
Bentley Hall
t. Stacy MacRoastie
Alexander Rogers
>Technology ruined what we now call "casual sex," just like it ruined marriages, politics, and the more you think about it, almost any aspect of human social life there is
.t Incel that just finished masturbating to porn on the internet, THE FUCKING POST
Its shit because of feminism. Anyone who says otherwise is a cunt roastie in damage control. Dating in the 1800s >Man: Im marrying you >Woman: Have to speak to my father first, also whatever incel >Father: You want my daughter as a wife? >Man:I have 10000 pounds and my family owns 300 hectares, 30 slaves and a cotton plantation in virgina. >Father: sold Easy, simple, it worked.
Case in point. Stay angry you ugly cunt. Its not like anyone will ever date you.
Landon Perry
>implying an incel in 1800s would have any wealth
Parker White
Seething roastie.
Also yes an lower class man could and would marry well above his batting class. The reaosn being is because Men controlled everything and women didnt have a say, the way it should be. And guess what, people got married, had LOTS of children, built large families and they didnt get divorced unlike today. So unless you can convince me that our current system is better(you cant) then I suggest you go back to lolcow with your nightly report about how your shit posting didnt pay off.
Holy shit you are retarded. It was literally impossible for a lower class man to even speak to a higher class female. No family would ever let their daughter speak to a lower class man, much less marry him. Dating up these days is actually possible.
Logan Adams
Jesus you are mad roastie. I can smell the yeast from your pussy through my computer.
Not only that you are legtimate retard. Do you think that a man with 10000 pounds in the 1800s in lower class? My point was that in those days even an ugly man could literally buy a wife off another man. Her choice or happiness was subordinate to the interests of Men. And life was good. There were ugly people in higher classes uno and just like now women didnt want to mate with them but in those days they were forced too because marriage was a transaction and women were wombs with legs #btfo
Adrian Watson
You said lower class, meaning an illiterate penniless peasant. Those guys had no hope to marry anyone but a girl equally low in class.
Adam Smith
>ugly men can't get hot girls today
Joshua Lee
dating has always been degenerate
before people would get arranged by family friends and get married like civilized people. the whole aspect of getting intimiate before marriage is degeneracy and the reason why your fantasy never existed and never will
Jose Ramirez
Wow I assumed it was obvious what I meant with my greentext example, jesus Christ woman.
You dont understand there are different classes within classes right? You may be 'rich' but you are still low because theres also a rich chad over there. Ill draw it in crayon next time for your dumb roastie ass. Also way to go not denying you are female lol.
Justin Martinez
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Man casual dating is impossible nowadays. Either it's totally one night hookup deals, or the girl wants to move in and get matching bathrobes the next morning. There's no middle ground anymore.
Tyler Nguyen
Not OP but I've played a lot of Crusader Kings 2 and I can confirm OP is correct.
Ethan Adams
you're a fucking moron. dating is a modern aberration in sexual relations. the whole world was pretty much shariah law compared to modernity for most of human history.
Levi Clark
By the old days OP means for a few decades after World War II
Christian Hughes
Those were in fact far more degenerate times than today.
Brandon Turner
Not so bad if you wanna get laid.
Connor Moore
It sounds counterintuitive until you think about it, but today getting laid is easier than ever. But at the same time people are having less casual sex. Normalizing something and making it easy also lessens the pressure to do it.
Daniel Watson
Pretty sure the last round of feminst insanity and the looming threat of possible future litigation is contributing to why casual sex is less of a thing at this point.
That, and even more so the fact that "baggage" now means she fucked like 63 dudes before she got around to you. Until relatively recently, a girl who got around maybe had a boyfriend every year or two years, so if you met a 25 year old grill she probably had four or five boyfriends tops, a lot but not more than the average beta cuck was willing to accept.
Now because of how easy it is for women to get Chad dick, the concept of "sex positivity" is being pushed to the absolute limits, to the extent that even men who would have thought themselves relatively unprudish or judgmental aren't just perhaps feeling belittled at the prospect of being dick #84935783957, but also legitimately fear disease risk.
Parker Richardson
>But at the same time people are having less casual sex Men are having less sex, but women are getting smashed up on dating apps more then any other time in human history. Truth be told I don't really care as I have no intention or desire for pre-marital sexual relations, but the idea that casual sex overall has decreased is misleading.
John Brown
Proofs? No statistics support what you said. All statistics point to young men and women having less casual sex and losing their virginity later.
Nathan Russell
Non-Chads are getting cut out twice. Once, because women are less likely to date them as dating sites and apps get more efficient at delivering only Prime Chad Cock to their doors practically by the minute.
Second, because men who might have in a previous era simply "manned up" and put on the Chad act long enough to get in cunt are now deciding they're at high risk for being accused of regret rape by roasties years or even decades later for the crime of not really being Chad, so have decided to stay at home shining their own poles instead.
Cooper Baker
Dating is shit because you're an ugly faggot that refuses to change for the better.
Nathaniel Long
Reddit is that way, Norman.
Ethan Ross
>tl;dr Technology ruined what we now call "casual sex implying casual sex was every good, you fucking nigger
Gavin Rogers
Technology didn't ruin it feminism did
Caleb Martinez
>he ironically wants to have a woman in his house nagging and annoying him all the time
Camden Morgan
unironically* oreegano
Jackson Mitchell
Would you rather die alone and only stick your dick in whores
Chase Ross
Get your test levels checked dude, until a few decades ago most guys couldn't go a few weeks without getting pussy somehow
Nolan Price
I fap alot my test levels are fine and a few decades ago dating sites and feminism wasn't as rampant so average guys actually had a chance unlike now
Matthew Lee
Shit you're right, time to take off my ugly face and become a genetically superior male!
Isaac Cook
Nobody cares that you're ugly whiny bitch people care about that you don't contribute to fucking society. Whiny faggot thinks fucking is all there is to life
Daniel Carter
Why is this fucking so hard for you brainlet normies to understand? It's deliberately misleading. Is it "total number of people having sex" that's down (probably), or "people who do have sex, have it less often"? Even if it's true that the overall number is lower, that tells you nothing about the factors of that number. ie.: 10 years ago, of 100 people: >30 were Chads and Stacies having sex >60 were normies having sex >10 were sexless last year, of 100 people: >30 were Chads and Stacies having sex >50 were normies having sex (and this factor is further skewed by average women bagging a horny Chad for a night) >20 were sexless So the statistic of "fewer total number of people having sex" is technically true, but it's a truth that lies by omission. Chad and Stacy tier are still fucking as much or more than ever, average girls are fucking upwards because of electronic access to Chad dick. >tldr lrn2stats faggot
Michael Sanchez
tinder should probably be made illegal and I say this as a dude who somehow managed to get laid using it a handful of times
Austin Carter
>contribute to fucking society
This is a maximum keked way of thinking. Why should any guy not getting pussy want to work hard to contribute to anything?
Easton Green
What else are you going to be useful for with that ugly mug. Society Allows you to be alive in a decent condition instead of being an pathethic outcast of a tribe eaten by fucking lions. The world owes you 0.
Jonathan Cox
why would anyone play a rigged game? solely to waste time?
William Cook
I wonder at this point whether more intelligent Chads will actually stop being so promiscuous, because of the increased danger of catching something.
I get the strong impression (although I admittedly have absolutely no evidence) that most of the guys going around fucking anything and everything willing are 90~95 tops IQ gymbrah types.
Easton Murphy
Why shouldn't men cast out by society live as easy and unstressful lives as possible, rather than busting their asses for no reward? Note that single men can pay their own way in just a few hours of work a day if they aren't fussy about where they live or what they eat, so a so-called "lazy" man who enjoys leisure isn't necessarily a parasite at all.
Bentley Thompson
The point of society is for the people to be happy. Girls aren't happy being chads cum dump either
Hudson Cooper
>intelligent Chads lel
Jaxon Murphy
>if I contribute to society, I might get some pussy >but I'm not getting pussy now, so I won't contribute to society great logic
Tyler Myers
Parents aren't involved. The moment the guys stopped asking for dad's permission to take their daughter out, everyone realized dating was casual and took no effort.
Andrew Bennett
>I am unattractive and not photogenic >I am unemployed on post on Jow Forums If i was a normal, life would be so much easier to deal with
Nicholas Taylor
You wouldn't call a big good looking guy Chad if he has an IQ over 100?
Caleb Green
>thinks chads with 100+ IQ exist
Matthew Bennett
>if I lived in the past I would definitely have gotten a gf
big cope also: you don't live in the past so what is your point
>source: trust me Not a single thing in your brainlet rant was correct. Statistics show that men and women are having less casual sex and no amount of whining from your part will change that fact.
Adrian Roberts
>thinks incels with 100+ IQ exist
John Sanders
Curious where you got those numbers from? Source?
Aiden Perez
They're not actual numbers, just a demonstration of how stats lie.
Chase Young
even if your ugly or fat you still can get your own sex slave slut, just be confident and work on yourself. This is no joke, most chads dont know shit or dont know how to use the penis, i fucked this slut and she liked the 1 hour rough sex so she stayed 2 years until i left her because shit got toxic and i got bored of sex.
Nathaniel Moore
you are absolutely clueless
Lucas Robinson
But he's got them the wrong way, there are less chads than before.
Joseph Davis
>Technology has totally fucked up everything, because it's taken away the human and chance element from everything. Regardless of what anyone in this thread has to say, this is undeniably true and it has been proven both statistically and scientifically regarding the individual.
You don't need to have lived 100 years from now to look up some statistics. Firstly, divorce rate increased substantially over the last ~140 years, while only in recent years going down a bit from a huge peak, but never going under the previous minimum. Secondly, and this is very important: Women happiness decreased over time in relation to that of men. This is mostly because (but this is pure speculation, although it's pretty logical and intuitive) women don't know exactly what they want until a later age and that they can't, on average, support themselves, especially if they want to have children AND sole custody. Of course, there are other reasons. Thirdly, number of partners has increased over time for both genders. Considering that the divorce rate is higher for a higher number of partners before marriage, one can conclude that we have more divorces today than we had at any time in history. But most importantly, people that have substantial amounts of sexual partners will value individual affection less, thus leading to a less meaningful life and less happiness later in age. I have a gf, but I still sympathize with men that constantly get rejected for not being 'good enough' based on some loose social standard defined by the aggressive leftist media. Hell, it took me 4 years to find a decent girl to settle down and my baby is 5 months on the way and I couldn't be happier, as is my gf. I've been rejected countless of times on the basis I'm too 'quiet', 'not fun', 'not going clubbing' etc. Shallow society we live in and I feel you brothers.
Joseph Campbell
Divorces have been decreasing for a long time. The number of partners has gone down this generation. Stop talking out of your ass.
Tyler Long
Don't bother posting a source for that because we already know it's >your ass
>Divorces have been decreasing for a long time Stop reading between lines. I already said it started to decrease, but never went under the minimum within that period. >The number of partners has gone down this generation. If there was a point it went down, it didn't go down by much and definitely never went under the minimum for the last 100 years.
So, you basically just proved Literally all it said was "the number of sexless people from 18-24 has increased from 6% to 15%" and nothing about the remaining 85%.
Brody Jenkins
>Women wanted a provider and weren't as tempted to stray as they are now by dating apps. Women weren't socially allowed to work. I'm sure many fucked their neighbors on the dl a lot; cheaters gonna cheat. >were more likely to receive real affection and care of some kind because men back then were less hardened and cynical. The local notable men married pretty young women, and yes they sometimes strayed a bit but mostly things worked out in the wash, no-one had perfect relationships but most people had SOMETHING. Most people still have something. Cheating didn't end in divorce because it was much more frowned upon but that doesn't make the marriages happy. >Women felt valued Pretty sure this is what first wave feminism was about combatting.
Isaiah Morgan
That's some brainlet tier mental gymnastics.
Landon Carter
The fuck are you talking about? That's literally all the article said.
Blake Turner
The article in no way proved your chad hyperbole in fact it proved you wrong.
Ryan Harris
>15% are sexless >85% are boning down Oopsie, did we accidentally prove 80/20?
Alexander Kelly
Yes, technology made it so people don't interact anymore. Things really have changed; younger people don't know how much better it used to be.
Joshua Rivera
It's way easier to just get laid if you want to because internet and tinder
Liam Rogers
Yeah if you're Chad and/or OK being the thousandth penis going down any particular hallway.
Benjamin Nelson
But it's harder to find someone who you get along with and can seriously date. Even shy people were forced to interact with one another, they'd just be like shy together in the back away from the group of normal people. Online stuff makes it so people don't have to go outside so they never meet.
Chase Gonzalez
more people say otherwise
Ryan Scott
Only if you're >8+ looks >6' height >8" hung Otherwise don't bother, it's just suicide fuel.
Nicholas Brown
I'm one of those and fuck lots of bitches off tinder, you seriously can't believe how easy it is when you try.
Aiden Anderson
Who's this more people?
Bentley Stewart
In the old days, there were also inefficiencies and social barriers that made it harder for Chad to get first pick on girls not in the mainstream.
Nerdy girls, foreigners, ghetto chicks, older women etc. were more likely to be at least somewhat socially marginal, so non-Chads still stood a chance.
Take one example: an actual female nerd with non-mainstream interests. She probably wouldn't fit in at normie parties and would end up hanging out with and dating the least dweeby of her nerdy friends.
Here's another one: divorcees, widows or other older women out of the social game, with few friends or social networks anymore. In the old days they'd have been prey for the guy next door, regardless of whether he was really that attractive.
Foreign exchange student from China or whatever. Then? She ends up in an amusingly awkward relationship with the local language geek. Today? She has access to Chad on her smartphone helpfully translated into her local language no English needed.
Today all the above women like all women have access to Chad's dick 24/7. Social, economic, national etc. barriers are all gone. The best a non-Chad can do is be a part-time bf, essentially keeping women company when Chad's not around. Before they just wouldn't have run into Chad for the most part, who was mostly hanging out with his own attractive kind and not slumming it. Today, Chad can take a mere 20 minutes out of his busy schedule and find a 7/10 girl who will worship the ground he walks on for some quick sexual relief. Before he'd have been more likely to have worked a little for a chick in his own league or gone without.
Jayden Martin
>he believes meme Chad actually exists in real life
William Harris
Assuming you're not larping >tfw 32 khhv >tfw stuck living with parents because of permanent chronic health issues >tfw living in rural shithole a hundred miles from civilization >tfw literally everyone else here was already married 10 years ago It was over for me before it started.
Levi Thompson
I meant I am one of those three only. Meaning that this post was complete bullshit. Okay you sound beyond hope but generally anyone who's not a complete garbage tier male can fuck girls off tinder.
Kayden Martinez
41 here and I strongly agree.
Mason Scott
You must be one of the brain addled Zoomers OP was talking about. Managing to "fuck girls off tinder" that have fucked a lot of other dudes isn't some great success.
The point is that all relationships are shitty now. Long-term relationships are less stable, and even short and temporary relationships made online are emptier because they aren't the result of any IRL connection or spark.
Angel Walker
What's the source of the gif? Orgynal
Kayden Robinson
You must be one of those teenager basement-dwelling bitter virgins who thinks he is an expert on sex and relationships and how they were before he was born.
Joseph Stewart
I made an OKC and tinder a week ago, and now it seems like all profiles are one liners with links to an Instagram and cashapp, or a massive rant about how she does not want to talk to anyone
Is online dating even a real thing any more? Why are girls posting cashapp now, like we owe them money for looking at their profile?
Matthew Bell
Shut the fuck up, OP. You think dying of polio or whatever before you're 20 was better than what we have now?