Fembots, what do you think of motherhood in general?

Is it something desirable? Something to be admired? What do you think of the expectation that women have to be caring and compassionate?

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I would like to be a mother but I don't think I want to be a wife to become one. I know I could love my child in my heart of hearts but I don't see myself being able to tolerate a man for the rest of my life

You tolerate us though here at r9k. Now give me a kiss

I want to be a mom but my mental health is really bad I guess I shouldn't have children as long as I'm mentally ill.
No one would put their seed in me or want to date me.

Of course you won't tolerate one man for the rest of you life. You want to fuck 5 different men every day you dumb whore.

Not recommended, too many people around these days. Or do you want to live in a box? Encouraging people to have babies is just a scheme of the wealthy and jealous people.

Same for me. Even if a guy would make me pregnant, he would for sure not stick around. And the authorities would most likely take the child away from me. I can't even properly take care of myself

sure thing, idiot

Same feels fellow mentally ill femanon

I used to not want to become a mother, but around 20 or so I started really hoping to have children some day. I am not sure if motherhood is admirable, I suppose a very good and loving mother is.
I think that the expectation that all women are very caring and compassionate is harmful, and that women that aren't super touchy feely and sentimental are just as much women as those who are. Also that the traits of being caring and compassionate should be socialized into men as well. I am not sure if that would be enough to make them good, I think that the evil of man is partially rooted in testosterone. That's not to say each individual man is evil, but evil is indeed the default state of man.

I love the idea but I know I'd be a terrible mother. It's probably for the best that I don't have kids. Plus I don't think anyone would want to start a family with me.

It is desirable (and admirable) for me personally, but I grew up without a mom and I've been mistreated my whole life by my caretaker so I'm sure I'd need therapy before even considering it. But mostly I'm just afraid of continuing the cycle and ending up treating my children the same way I was treated.

Nice cope incel roastie
You're just butthurt no attractive guys want to take part in your mental illness
Men and women arent evil, people who say the opposite gender is evil are retards and deserve to have their genes die with them

Men are evil. There are individual women who do evil things, but where are the female warlords?

On motherhood, I don't want it for myself but I don't see it as lesser. My mother has her flaws but she was an excellent mother because she is a natural caretaker. My cousin was the same way, even when we were little girls she would trail the family babies around, mothering them, imitating our mothers. I never had that instinct and I never felt very mothering. Some women are meant for it, I mean obviously, how else would our species continue? And thank God for them. I think motherhood, as well as fatherhood, are essential roles that people play in our society but it isn't remarkable, if that makes sense.
On the expectation of women to be caring and compassionate, I agree that it is skewed unfairly. Emotional labor is a very real thing. I have a more modern and equal relationship but I notice it in mine all the time (planning our meals, keeping our household in order, taking care of our animals, planning gifts and cards even for my bf's family, more expectations for eitquette/family help and chores than my little brothers are expected to).

Its always been a goal at the back of my mind, little house in the english countryside, 3 kids, Dogs. But then I never counted on mental illness in combination with being ugly meaning i have absolutely nothing to offer a partner. and never being able to support a family myself because i can't hold down any job, never mind one that pays well

Meanwhile, africans boast 5.4-7.2 fertility rates, whereas whites boast 1.3-1.8 fertility rates (well below replacement level).

You are either a kike or you are repeating kike point verbatim.

I have no reason to believe black neighbours would be any worse/better than white ones.

Then you evidently can't read statistics and deserve what's coming for you.

My mother abandoned me and my dad when I was a baby.

I hate mothers.

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Not to mention that no-one's out there screeching at africans to stop spawning niggers.
Everyone is pointing the finger at whites. The same whites that are going extinct.

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Niger and Chad need more humanitarian aid.
7 children per woman? Those are rookie numbers.

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My perfect life is to be a stay at home house wife who cooks cleans and breeds for my loving husband.
I want to kiss him as he walks through the door after a long day at work and bring him his home cooked dinner (one of his preselected preferred meals).
I wish I could fast forward to being 2 months pregnant and experience all the good stuff that comes with pregnancy and feel his hand on my stomach while he feels his child kick.
I want to be sitting in my rocking chair breastfeeding while we watch the nightly news after dinner.

I really want that, user.

god reading the impact feminism has on girls will always piss me off

women are women
men are men
women act like women and have feminine traits
men act like men and have masculine traits
neither are bad or good things, they simply are

a father needs to be masculine
a mother needs to be feminine
doesn't mean that a father can't/shouldn't show compassion or a mother can't/shouldn't show discipline, it just means that that's how men are an that's how women are

it's not about one being above or more important than the other, it's about children (and people in general) needing both in their lives, it's all about balance
though I understand there's some truth in all the toxic masculinity bullshit, mainly not being able to show emotion and shit unless they want to be looked down from society, it still has biological roots and until those can be fixed, they will stay and will need to stay
but toxic feminity is just as bad and should be fixed, but we don't have the means necessary, maybe in a hundred or two hundred years when transhumanism takes over

I used to look down on people saying the shit you just said but then I realized it just stemmed from a lack of understanding, something you'll get as you grow older
or just be my wife, that can work as well

The kikes and feminists took this from us.

>statistics

Keep 'em, I'm not a religious person.

I don't even give a fuck anymore if you're a larping fatass or a mentally ill tranny or whatever
fuck you for these feels
just tell me you're in yurop and you want at least 5 kids and become mine pls

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Why is it always the extremely stupid that are so arrogant and pompous

Well maybe there's actual farmwork to be done there so they need more hands? Unlike back here in Babylon with all the ridiculous office jobs of which many are just running errands for another office which runs errands for another office.

Because they think they have figured out how to use others, while in reality they are just being walked in a leash.

Farms in Niger, you absolute idiot?
They are having kids because they live off of white peoples' aid.
They weren't always having 7+ fertility rates. Their niglets would die a lot, so they'd spawn a shitton.

Now we have good goys propping them up and they are projected to reach 4 billion by 2050.
BUT WHITES SHOULD STOP HAVING KIDS! THINK OF THE CARBON FOOTPRINT GOY! CAN YOU REALLY AFFORD A CHILD GOY?

Ooops, goyim have stopped having children!
This is a problem, we better import 3rd worlders to remedy it.
Goyim, please understand! We have no choice! You stopped having children!

How is having kids helping you to live off of white people's aid?

Their lifestyle is subsidized.
They have a 68 average IQ.
They fuck a lot, because there's fuckall to do and they are not working, so what the hell!

Cue, 7 niglets per woman.

The bitch is absolutely wholesome.
10/10 would emulate.

Fun fact: Refugees get additional welfare per child. They are incentivized to have children.

Indigenous populations enjoy no such incentives. Native italians often cite costs when considering whether to have children. Afghani refugees explicitly seek to have children so they can enjoy more benefits.

imagine thinking this, did you at all learn in history class or are you just gay

most of the poor african countries use socialist/democratic socialist systems, meaning tons of welfare
look it up

doesn't this just prove their point? africa's a shithole largely because people keep having children

Yeah but they get the welfare because having children is costly and energy consuming and there's no way getting around that.

what a rebuttal.
Insulting my masculinity and my education in one short sentence!

Either present an actual argument or neck yourself you absolute fucking chucklefuck.

Why are they giving welfare to refugees for having children and not the indigenous white populations?

White pay, with their taxes, for refugees to have children. Meanwhile, whites don't have children because they can't afford it.

Men are innately more violent though, and commit many more crimes. The nuclear family is a nice meme, but men are a danger to be around and only want to hurt and exploit women.

Very annoying
Not in your country sorry user and I'd prefer 3

No one is pointing out that africans having 7 children each is leaving a big carbon footprint.
The media, academia and education institutes have been going on and on for decades about how WE should have less children. It was prime eschatology, everywhere.

They now assert that WE NEED immigration, because we are below replacement levels.


Only truly moronic people cannot see what's going on.

Shut up before I slap some sense into you, idiot

A nice example of male energy, they make ethreats even when they can't do anything.

>Men are innately more violent though, and commit many more crimes.
that's some slippery slope right there, though once again there's truth in it
but it's mostly due to the IQ distribution, which tends to go to the extreme for the males and is more centered towards the average for the females

dumb people make dumb choices and more often than not have to/chose to resort to violence and/or commit crimes
also because society is harsher on males in general, because you can still be a successful woman by simply hooking up with the right man and taking care of your children (which, again, I have nothing against and is absolutely respectable, I wouldn't want my wife to work and would rather she took care of our kids and give them all the love she could)
while men have harsher expectations and harsher jobs (and mostly physical as well, if your dad is a construction worker for example, chances are he'll be fine with his son working in the same field, while he'd rather his daughter worked in the social or in a nursery or whatever she could fancy)

there are plenty of men out there that aren't violent and don't commit (or want to commit) crimes, which proves that it's not just a man thing
and the fact that there are women that do these things is another proof as well, it's a human thing that just happens to be seen in males more than in females

It seems kinda nice but I have no reason to believe it will happen to me any time soon.

And which country was that? In my country everyone gets somewhat the same welfare. Of course it makes sense that they lack the skill to use money effectively in a new culture if they arrive straight from jungle.

It's not unreasonable to fear the sex that is innately much stronger and has worse impulse control. It's not like it is only dumb men that harm their wives, it is dumber men that are likely to be arrested for it and caught.

Jesus, this thread is a shitshow. I just wanted to know some fembot's opinions on motherhood. This is just an incel spergout now.

Every single european country, you airhead.
All european countries have to conform to it.
Even greece, which is practically insolvent, had to provide 11,7 billion for immigrants, in 2018.

Women kill their kids, men just abandon the family. Both are fucked up but one is clearly worse

Dang, a demanding with a coherent, rational response. Who'da thunk? All b.s. aside I like your response and completely agree, goes the same for fatherhood. Some of us are good people but the role isn't for every individual.

The farther up in the thread you go the more actual femanon replies will you see.

I want to be a mother so badly. I want nothing more than to be a loving wife and mother who gives everything to my family. However I dont fault women who feel differently because people are individuals and all have different goals and aspirations in life

You are asking the wrong person; for in my country everyone gets child support welfare.

Men cant get pregnant user.

idk, it's not like it's only men that hurt their wives, there are plenty of wives that hurt their husbands, one way or another
see the state this board is in, physical power is irrelevant in most situations, unless you still live in some african shithole or something I guess, because of the way the world evolved
even more so since social medias appeared

females have a lot of power

but again I'm not saying you're completely wrong, because that's been the case for millions of years and it's biological at this point, men have to be more aggressive (and women more often than not love it, unless the physical hurt is directed at them (at least for the not mentally ill))
but there are so many variables and reasons why a man would end up beating his wife and I didn't sleep at all and it's 16PM here, so I guess we'll have to leave it at that

good talking to you supposed femanon, and good on you for sounding more rational than most feminist these days

Even in countries that have social benefits for children, it often is only applicable for the 3rd child onwards and it's considerably less money than what refugees get (140euro per child)

In this clown world, this sentence would get you a lot of flack if you uttered it anywhere else.

I am not a male I am a female with a uterus aching to be inseminated!!! >.

Alright, good talk. I hope you realize nobody gives a shit about your bullshit message.

You evidently don't, because you are not white and you are envious and riddled with inferiority complexes.

I'm white, believe it or not. You just psychoanalyzed yourself. Glad I could help.

>I'm white

The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying.

Gradually I began to hate them.

You shouldn't strike people for having more children than you.

I am entitled to do a lot more than just strike them if I am the one that has to pay for them, kike.

I'd like to have 3 or 4 kids, preferably with a set of twins. However I am 21 about to finish uni and I feel like I've been pressured my whole life into studying for a career.
I think it's stupid that I'll be working for what, 5 years, before I have children which will fuck things up. I wish I could have just been a mother but now most families need dual income, it means most women don't get to raise their kids properly, and probably be unhappy in a job at the same time. I'd say most women aren't best suited for careers, they are more caring by nature.

good head on your shoulders.
Get your degree - look for a husband.

Only if they agreed to it.

It's not up to them, nor you.
Pilpul won't work on me, move on.

that's why our society is fucked why are we even letting women into uni when they are going to work for 5 years then go get fucked. Men can't compete

Thanks. I almost think that having children would make a degree pointless, but only time will tell I suppose.
I would like to have a job where I could work from home maybe 3 days a week and keep an eye on the children at the same time.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that women shouldn't be allowed into uni, but there should be more education surrounding the other options. If less women went to uni, there would be more jobs for men with higher pay, less competition, and then less families would have to survive on dual income.

As a dude 10 years in to a career, it baffles me to see all these young people - men and women, but particularly women - who think they are going to find fulfillment in life through work. In reality, maybe one percent of the population lives to work and is truly happy with that. I have plenty of money and I hate my life. But all these kids want to emulate it. Theyre fucking brainwashed. If I could go back in time (and be less of a sperg) I would start a family early because while the struggle would be greater at least it would have meaning.

Having an education means, or should mean, more than just being employable. Somewhere along the line we've lost our way.
Education now is merely a means of indoctrination and means of employability. It's stopped being about knowledge, wisdom, expertise.

Eitherway, I hope you have lots of healthy children.

Maybe you should try politics if you're so good at making people agree with you? And about the "pilpul"; my condolences.

I get you completely. I definitely was one of those people who thought they were going to find fulfilment in work, but as I'm nearing the end of uni, nothing terrifies me more than a life of an office job. The thing is, as a girl, I remember always being fed the idea that if you have kids and settle down young you are a failure... you MUST prove the patriarchy wrong and go into STEM or at least uni!!!
In reality, it just makes the average woman unhappy because they can't deal with the cut-throat jobs etc, and the average man unable to fulfil the masculine role of providing for his family.

I agree with that. It feels like there is no space in society for knowledge for the sake of knowledge. Everything is geared towards the end of employment- and the indoctrination part is true also.
Haha thanks user, I'll try

Golden retrievers are the only good dogs. Not a "fembot" I just wanted to add that.

there are plenty of good doggos
koolies are best and big doggos like dalmatians are second best

>doggos
Dogs. DOGS. Stop this infantile bullshit.

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>stop this infantile bullshit
>he says while insulting someone of coming from reddit
I'll just pass that off as you being underage, don't worry

fucking whore slut

>there's nothing wrong with using reddit
this entire board in a nutshell, some of the most pathetic and disgusting abominations the human race has ever known, with the only upside being you will forever suffer as you are a constant failure and genetic mistake

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>there's nothing wrong with using reddit
how many years of mental gymnastics does one have to do before getting such a result?
why are you even on Jow Forums if you don't even bother reading the posts you reply to?

I don't know where you're from and I don't care, but you really should go back

yeah I want lots of kids. I have a chronic illness though so I don't know if it's realistic/if I would be capable of taking care of 3-4 little ones.
I don't think it's unreasonable to expect women to be caring and compassionate; I think all men and women should aspire to have those qualities.

I just don't like the expectation that I should take the role of the carer in all social situations - like when I attend family gatherings and they leave their dogs/kids in the room with me like they expect me to watch them because I'm a young woman? Wtf you're the parent/owner?
Or when I worked retail and male colleagues would direct unattended/lost kids to me when we literally had the same position and I was busy with other customers. No, you fucking deal with it, it's your job.

If I could give them to someone else before they reached puberty, especially the boys, I'd consider motherhood. Babies are fine, kids are fine when little but no way would I ever live int he same house as a teen boy. I have a brother and he was gross.

I don't know anymore. I really don't want to experience the horrible 9 months of torture. I don't even know if I'm ever gonna be able to bear a child without damaging my own health. To hell with that. Maybe if my future husband will talk me into it.

lmao what is fucking wrong with white people

>I don't even know if I'm ever gonna be able to bear a child without damaging my own health
You definitely would damage your health. There's no other way. It's the cross we must bear for the sake of our species' survival.