NOPORN VS NOFAP?

Which one is better? Porn really messes up your brain but what about jerking using your imagination

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Porn is fine and so is fapping. Not looking at porn isn't bad, but not fapping is bad. Just find a nice balance. As long as you are still being social, still taking care of your hygiene and cleanliness, and working towards your goals you can masturbate as often as you want for how long you want

What about fucked up porn? I started at vanilla and ended up jerking to a trap and weird JAV fetishes

reduce the amount of porn you comsume. You will be able to get off to normal stuff again soon.

i dont get the problem, porn makes fapping quicker fapping removes desire to court females/sex, seems quite simple yet so many fight against it

No Porn only works if you step away from the computer - shitposting here for hours on end isn't going to fix your brain, you're still stuck in that Dopamine drip-feed "Ludic Loop". You have to avoid TV and internet.

I don't like this post because even though I somewhat agree, you're giving people an excuse to indulge in their addictions.

Alcohol is fine but some people just don't know how to control themselves. You should stay away from porn for a few months and then ease back into it when you feel you're ready (attracted to real humans again, no erectile dysfunction, can get turned on by normal stimulus)

Alcohol is never fine, it's pure poison. Sexuality is a critical component of existence just like eating and breathing. Restraining yourself from sexual release is stupid at best and dangerous at worst. There is nothing wrong with porn, fantasy, fetishes, or any of it and coming to terms with the weird shit you're into is actually far more conducive to a healthy and productive life than hating yourself or being ashamed of what you like. If porn is your life (and I'm not talking about a job in the porn industry), you have a problem. If your life includes porn, there's no issue.

You figure out what your goals are. I started noticing that I wasn't really attracted to women anymore unless they were on a screen and I had no motivation to talk to women. I was asexual at 20 years old and that fucked with me, so I don't watch porn by I still masturbate once a week just to not torture myself.

Why would one wanted to be attracted to something they can't access.

neither, i do not care

>Restraining yourself from sexual release is stupid... dangerous...
Yes it is, that's why you masturbate but cool it on the porn. Porn isn't necessary for release.
>there's nothing wrong with porn...
There's nothing wrong with a lot of things but it doesn't change the fact that some people have unhealthy obsessions with them. Sex isn't bad but if you're always seeking sex, looking for the next thrill, getting yourself into legal trouble because you're doing weird illegal freak shit, you have an issue.
>coming to terms with weird shit... ashamed of what you like...
Spoken like a true pornographic normalfag. An obsession with porn leads to mutating fetishes. You're looking for the next shocking, anxiety inducing image or video. Some porn addicts descend so far into their obsession that they begin looking at CP. Not because they find kids attractive but because it's the ultimate taboo. You have straight men watching gay porn, which is why people call traps and their fetishists degenerates. They're usually not gay, they've just fucked up their brains so bad that they want to live out a fetish.
>if porn is your life, you have a problem
Exactly. Most people who ask about this have a problem. Alcohol is not my life. I can go months or a year without a drink. But it's part of my life. I enjoy getting drunk sometimes. I'm not an alcoholic.

You're able to enjoy porn in moderation like a normal person. You have normal fetishes like feet or something. Unfortunately that's not the case for everyone. Some of us can't just do it in moderation. I've spent literally complete days edging to porn. At 23 years old, I was mastutbating to shit that 20-year-old me would gag looking at. Porn, like any drug, isn't as innocent as you think. There's nothing wrong with it but some people just can't handle it.

It may give you the motivation to stop acting like a fag and learn how to attain it like pre-internet robots were forced to do.

>Spoken like a true pornographic normalfag. An obsession with porn leads to mutating fetishes. You're looking for the next shocking, anxiety inducing image or video
not true at all, fetish has never mutated

Just masturbate once per week or so then you'll nut from vanilla porn

why would you go to all that bother, when you can deal with it in the space of a few minutes

Maybe not for you but for a lot of guys it has. Look it up. Or ask this board. Or ask me. South Park even had a joke about it. When you've been jerking off to Japanese girls vomiting on each other, you can't go back to playboy.

Then disregard my posts, as it's for men who want to grow up.

>implying porn addicts have the self control to masturbate once a week
I had this idea and it didn't work

Grindr is THE only answer

implying you and the world at large is grown up

1800, come on now

Stop fucking your hand when boipussy is available 100% of the time, your missing out if you have never had a sissy ride your cock

This just fuck a robot twink with zero self esteem you can literally rape them and they wont care

Imagi-who? How can i imagine someone when i have ZERO social contact? I havo no stimuli for (sex) imagination

is anime girls in bikini a form of pornography?
pls help

3 examples of porn addiction right here.

If you have to ask, it probably is. Any image you look up for the sole purpose of sexual arousal is a form of porn.

Noporn. Fapping is ok if it is to the right things. You shouldnt fap to porn or girls. They will make you obsessed. Instead I fap to what life was like in Ancient Greece or I will read about a sucessful conquest in history or I fap to philosophy which I can really relate to. Marcus Aurelius is always my favorite.

Use your imagination, porn will fuck you up in the head. Addict right now of recovering. I prefer not to fap and use that energy for useful things, but it's ultimately your choice, and you should get a girlfriend so you don't have to do either ;)