Explain Femcel

you always talk it down because you're so fucking spoiled. if we said all we could get was "some weird girl" imagine the outrage

and they're not even that odd, by odd you literally mean below 7/10 and has any slight flaw

Not even a femcel, you fags are just cringy in your attempts to monopolize self-pity.
By odd, I mean the rare guy expressing interest who's really just looking for a cheap lay.

how do i make friends with femcels?

Hey, guys, there's a WHOLE BOARD for you to cry about your "woe is me, I can't get laid/gf" bullshit. I have a daily thread I get banned over for inviting you guys to become normies. I am curious as to someone else's perspective, grow up.
Literally this

>how do i make friends with femcels?
Be Chad

i have no trouble getting laid. i just wanna be nice to them.

A rough overview of femcel thought is that they are an edgier version of the regular reddit communities for women.
The edge comes from being a sarcastic parody of incels, whom they don't sympathise with at all.

i bet if we took a look at all the guys who were just looking for a cheap lay and all the guys who actually got some from you there would be a pretty clear distinction

femcels don't exist you complete moron only sissy fags with anime girls as their profile pic. There are no forums about lonely womem and their never will be.

Been neet for about a year and been recently going to Lolita fashion meets. I been lying about having a full time job and other things. They are all successful career woman. I been having health problems. I'm hoping I have spinal cancer but, it might be MS.

>Women tend to internalize problems while men externalize problems
I find this hard to believe. Women are known for being openly emotional about things while men are known for just sucking things up and moving on, sometimes men will take the sucking up thing too far and then they'll explode (externalize their problems).

Yeah, because trans women aren't women. Jow Forums pls go

a women can't be lonely unless she chooses to be, female incels don't exist.

This is actually my favorite similarity between femcels and incels.
Femcels are convinced that every single man that shows interest in them is just looking to use them for sex, and incels are convinced that women can only want them for various insidious motives.

Can incels pay for hookers? Can incels learn to socialize? Can incels date a 3/10?
Answer for these is yes

Femcels are sorta right in that regard since anyone they are willing to date just wants their east pussy

But no one wants incels
So idk where you got "various insidious motives"

>Can incels pay for hookers?
a hooker isn't a romantic partner
>can you just improve your social skills?
No looks is what matters
>date a 3/10
No even 3/10s only settle for chad.

Prostitution is illegal in plenty of places plus a prostitute wouldn't really solve anything

You say that like it comes naturally but it doesn't

Not an issue

It is honestly funny to me that you don't see your self-defeating logic.

Incels most often complain of a lack of a sex life, yet can access prostitutes. So you're asserting that an incel can have sex and still be an incel. Which is fine, but understand the assertion you are making is that the basis of being an incel or femcel is being unable to have a relationship, and that description fits tons of women.

It doesn't come naturally, it comes with practice. Attractive people can get away with not practicing because the conversations came to them from early on, they became versed in the skill of socializing while you did something else. It's not impossible, nor difficult, to find help. It is a choice to go to a bar and sit by yourself looking at your drink. It is equally a choice to start conversations when you go around a bar.

That's just the sad reality if you're an ugly guy who doesn't act like a normie girls don't like you. It's out of my control Im not self defeating that is reality

Okay maybe the "celibate" part is an exaggeration since I can spend my hard earned money for a woman to spend time with me
But females don't have to spend money to get sex or even a relationship if they just be more assertive.

>if you're an ugly guy who doesn't act like a normie
The second part has way more to do with being an incel than the first part. Sooner you accept this, the sooner you can be accepted as a normie and, with work, advance to Chad status

normies have been normies they're whole lives they had 20 years to develop their chad personalities I have to start from scratch

>making excuses to stay a robot

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Not really a guy who's 5 foot 6 in theory can make it to the NBA but it really isn't worth the effort when you have to work 30 times as hard as your peers

In the US, there are 300mill people, 301 get to be NBA players. That is 1 in a million.
Is having a gf so rare in your mind that it is literally a million to 1 odds?

there's 150 million girls in the us and none of them want to be with me, so yes

Then I'm gonna say the problem is you

I know it is but like I said you cant change looks

>Can incels date a 3/10?
no we can't.

what's the point bros? why do we try to explain things to people who don't care

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I can't speak for everyone, but I'm a femcel Becuase i'm a few years any of turning 30. I think the big difference between myself and male Incels is that i don't blame anyone else for being a virgin.

who else would you have to blame for being a virgin? if you even tried to blame someone else for it they'd offer to take it.

femcels can get pumped and dumped if they really wanted to, but they don't want that, they want a guy to stick around with them. if you've ever read that femcel sub you'd know they're pretty fucking crazy and want extensive plastic surgery

Am I a normie chad or some shit?

People always say that femcels can get dick easy. If I dropped all my standards for women, I'm sure I could get some disgusting white obese trash to fuck me. The fact that I refuse to fuck garbage doesn't take away from the fact that I'm incel. Or am I a retard?

and you can fuck off too, any femcel can get a long term relationship with innumerable men who just aren't good enough

like pussy worshipper whack-a-mole

Have you considered just being yourseIf?

Femcels should come up with another name. It's the co-opting of the incel label that really pisses off so many robots as femcels have access to nearly everything the robot longs for. If given another label they wouldn't be spared a second thought.

The original incel was a female.
I think even love-shy was created by a woman.
Stop appropriating shit from women virgins shitlord

>I don't care
I offer coaching via normie bootcamp in order to help incels and social outcasts overcome their obstacles. Most of y'all just don't care to learn better

Do you feel 30 is an endgame?

haha don't even flatter yourself, you couldn't pull what a femcel could pull if you're a guy who browses here.

i'm gonna take a wild guess that no femcels need to take your bootcamp.

Are you delusional? Incels literally have nothing good to say about women ever, it has nothing to do with a name

reddit.com/r/TheGlowUp/comments/b10oei/need_advice_specifically_for_plastic_surgery/
there are a lot of cute crazy bitches in that sub

the name is just an attention grab why would you want to associate with it? probably because you're a woman who both holds yourself to no standards nor are you held to standards by anyone else. lifes eternal children, hand held cradle to grave.

I don't know the femcel struggle, nor would I attempt to overstep my boundaries in that manner. I'm just a dude that learned to get past social isolation, with a background in mental health. The most I could offer a femcel is a thoughtful ear, and they have their own forums for that. Rather than invade those forums, I wanted to make this thread to see if any could give me perspective on their beliefs/experience

>involuntary celibate
>virtually everyone woman can get easy access to sex
That's the problem you mouth breathing shit eater, women can't be involuntarily celibate.
You're right in that robots aren't fond of women but there's a special strain of animosity directed at so called femcels because of the blatant appropriation of the name. It's insulting.

A lot of Incels on this board blame "modern" women and feminism for them being virgins. I could in theory blame my parents and Society. I wasn't allowed to date in high school. I didn't know I was supposes to rebel and date any way.
>51483886
Honestly, no I'm mostly ok with my life.

You know most of those players are black or Yuropean
So being a white NBA player has astronomical odds compared to being a black NBA player
Likewise there's better odds for certain segments of the population

Diffrence is, even with all thosetraits, women still get bfs/husbands/sex and affection. Meanwhile robots die a slow death.

If "fembots" lived a mile in a robots shoes, she would kill herself after a few blocks.

It must be nice to be able to dismiss everything you disagree with as associated with women, hate women, and then cry online about how you can't get a gf.

Being a incel isn't real if we are being honest here. Prostitutes exist and people use them ever day.

"I'm insulted that lonely women dare compare their experience with loneliness as comparable to mine."

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does anybody have anything good to say about women? it's known they are inherently shallow and stupid creatures. but if they suck our dick we don't care

>dismiss everything you disagree
you mean like you're doing now? you don't even attempt to understand my point. femcel is just an attention grab, you parasitically see attention to the word incel and you need some of it for yourself so you co-opt the word when it's the furthest thing from your situation. you are the aggressor of our situation yet you want to pretend to be sad with us? check yourself hoe.

you cannot reach my level of feels vagina titty bitch

>Prostitutes exist and people use them ever day.

This is idiotic. For visiting a prostitute you need enough money (especially if you want to do it regularly) and you are also risking jail because its illegal.

Its just not comparable to how easy women have it.

you're such a dumb bitch. i wouldn't be angry at your vapid existence though if you just lived it somewhere else and didn't pretend to be incel.

>just let them eat cake
this phrase comes to my mind a lot when talking to normies. they are so blinded by their upper class lifestyle they don't actually know what goes on below them, they don't actually understand life.

That's because you could have easily lost it if you had tried simply because you're a female

Femcels dont exist. Every woman today can just hop on Tinder and fuck a 7/10 or better man the same day.

Its an insult to real incels.

I'm not claiming to be an incel. I'm claiming to be a femcel and acknowledging there is a difference between the two. It's like autism. Females with autism act differently than male with autism.
Not having money isn't an involuntary. You get a job and it's not illigal everywhere. What your doing is making excuses. If you really wanted to lose your virginity. You easily could. The problem is that male incels have a delusion/ entitlement about how it should happen and who it should be.

but that's such a despicable and confusing attention grab, can't you see it just causes problems? you probably don't care do you stupid attention whore, i hate that retards like you are enabled by all these other retards

and yet you would probably never tell a girl to loser her virginity to a male prostitute

They're normal women who saw an opportunity to get more attention by co-opting the term incel even though they can get male affection and attention on tap. Goes to show how lowly they think of men approaching them that they write it off by claiming they don't exist and pretend to be sad about it for extra attention. More pathetic than incels tbqh.

>If you really wanted to lose your virginity. You easily could.
no we can't

you're the fucking delusional bitch

>If you really wanted to lose your virginity.

Being an incel is not just about "losing virginity". I bet a lot of them visit a prostitute sooner or later to get it over with..

Its about having regular sex with a wanting partner.

"Femcels" can get that easily. Incels dont.

It's understanding that these things exist on a scale. Women want pity and attention without even meeting the criteria. It's just a form attention whoring for undesirable women.

>I'm not claiming to be an incel. I'm claiming to be a femcel and acknowledging there is a difference between the two.

>The problem is that male incels have a delusion/ entitlement about how it should happen and who it should be.

But since the latter sentence is literally the definition of a femcel, by your own admission, then there really wouldn't be a difference between them.

You're going to have to specifically and precisely give the definition of both incel and femcel for us to understand you.

>you disagree with my experience you must be a woman
Nope, just a dude that's fucked more than a few women and had more than a few relationships since being what you kids today call "incel"
Prostitutes are $5 on my street. You just will only accept $1k escorts because the only thing you actually care about is appearance.

I did a bit more digging online, mostly where I found the common refutations of incels. There seems to be underlying feminist thought behind the whole femcel/fembot/etc., but I can't pin down exactly what the beliefs are without a ton of digging. Could you give me a lowdown on how being a femcel feels/manifests, in your experience?

where is your fucking street? sorry i live in the anglosphere like a real person wtf are you even doing in this conversation third worlder

> that's such a despicable and confusing attention grab.
Only if you are a moron. Do you want me to pretend that being a female is the same as being a male. Spoilers it's not. Incels seems bitter by their virginity. It seems to prevent them from enjoying anything and I am not that.
Your right because prostitution is the last thing you should try. I would take her out and try to match her up. It's pretty clear the Incels on this board do nothing to get sex and complain when they magically don't get it.
You can.

>So you're asserting that an incel can have sex and still be an incel. Which is fine, but understand the assertion you are making is that the basis of being an incel or femcel is being unable to have a relationship, and that description fits tons of women.

No. The distinction is that no one wants incels and no one pays them any attention. (That neatly takes care of the prostitute issue, since prostitutes don't desire their clients - they want to get paid.)

And IN THIS VERY THREAD a self-proclaimed femcel admits they get attention. From "odd" guys, and from guys who apparently don't want femcels in exactly the right away - but they still are desired, and they still get attention.

The set of people who get no attention and who are never desired /= the set of people who get some attention and who are occasionally desired. They aren't "two different ways of being the same thing". They're utterly distinct sets with no overlap.

You really just can't allow women to speak for themselves, right? They can't the their own experiences without you trying to insert your opinion where it was never asked for to begin with? A whole. Fucking. Board. For you to talk about how much you don't care about improving your life. Literally infinite posts to cry about not having the exact fantasy gf you want. Literally millions opportunities to say what you want on various robot subjects.
But whenever someone wants to address/question a community you're not a part of, a community full of a gender you don't even talk to, your opinion is suddenly important.

>Your right because prostitution is the last thing you should try. I would take her out and try to match her up.
so you'd actually help a girl but for guys its just 'hahaha what a loser go fuck a prostitute lmao hahaha'
and you wonder why we shit on women here? gee i wonder why

what is actually wrong with whores like you? you think we have fun being 30 year old men who never had any romantic relationship?
you always keep saying this strawmaned shit about entitlement and that we only want an 18 year old virgin. just shut the fuck up. you haven't even talked to an incel I bet, neither do you know how an incels life looks like. you assume that people who get bad have to be bad, but that's not how it works you roasty cunt. just because today your farts smelled like roses doesn't mean other people can't be suffering

also why do you keep insisting on prostitutes so hard? how often did we explain in this thread that dirty fucking not what we are looking for

femcel is a morph of incel

men and women are different, that's why you can't be a femcel

you thick bitch, you unbelievably stupid cunt.

and we can't just lose our virginity, you only say that to cope with how easy your life is/refuse to believe us.

>do nothing to get sex
this is something you can do, you literally can do nothing to get sex but you think you know what it's like to have to try for it? you are ignorant and arrogant.

gah i fucking hate you stupid people but the real people are going to see they're always going to see

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Its in Ohio. Go to any inner city in the United States and you can find heroin addicts willing to suck dick for change.
Your welcome, now it only costs you $5 to stop being an incel forever. Something tells me you're going to say no to a heroin addict, though, because it's not about sex, it's about getting a Stacy gf.

Literally two nights ago was a thread about "volcels" or when you have the chance to fuck someone and choose not to. You say incels have no opportunities, less than 48 hours ago they discussed opportunities they had.
Nobody cares about incels? I've extended and olive branch to help them in every thread on here. So far 6 have taken me up, and not a single one is an actual 'incel'
Know what that means? You faggots don't want to get better, you want to whine.

>also why do you keep insisting on prostitutes so hard?
she seems to think we're normies that just want to run around sticking our dicks in everything. i have literally been to a prostitute before for a blowjob and i couldn't even stay hard because i just found the whole ordeal gross. i'm not fucking doing that again.

>"our experiences are equal to yours so we're co-opting the label"
The problem being your experiences aren't the same even by so called "femcels" own admission. If you're going to invade a space without even bearing the faintest qualities then expect resistance you stupid bitch.

>They can't the their own experiences without you trying to insert your opinion where it was never asked for to begin with?

So go ahead and do that.

Give me a precise and exact definition of a femcel. And one that possesses truth value - i.e. is falsifiable.

What attributes make one a femcel? What are the requirements? What are the experiences that make one a femcel, and what are the experiences that exclude one from that definition?

In my experience, every time a "femcel" or one of their apologists offers a definition, it's trivial to rebut it. And that's what pisses femcels off the most - because it's recreational for them to engage in self-pity, and they hate it when their self-pity-parties are disrupted.

first off as a coastie i can tell you that you're wrong about any inner city because in my city girls can make hundreds of dollars just begging, the prostitutes aren't even the drug addicts anymore they're the single mothers.

anyway just realized you're a nigger so lol

>Your welcome, now it only costs you $5 to stop being an incel forever. Something tells me you're going to say no to a heroin addict, though, because it's not about sex, it's about getting a Stacy gf.
ALERT!
WE HAVE A STRAWMANING WHORE
it's fun to see on what intellectual basis women discuss. are you incapeable of understanding what we are trying to tell you? or don't you like the narrative that incels don't want to fuck sluts. neither do we want a "sTaaCyy Gff", stop repeating yourelf or bring actual arguments

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>If you by "love and affection", you mean the odd guy who's looking for an easy score.

But dont you realize that as a female, you can just keep going until you find the right guy?

Lets say you get 1 new match per day on Tinder. Assume you are a very special snowflake and only 10% of guys are worthy of your criteria.

Every ten days you get at least one compatible partner, from 18 until your cunt dries at 35.

Honestly bored of you implying I'm female. Want me to send you dick pics? Here's my discord: pzero280#0815
Fuckin dare you pussy

oh I bet her argument would be "hehe see xd now you aren't an incel anymore"

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>Literally two nights ago was a thread about "volcels" or when you have the chance to fuck someone and choose not to. You say incels have no opportunities, less than 48 hours ago they discussed opportunities they had.

>Says the thread was about volcels
>Different enough from incels that it literally has its own word
>Accuses incels of not acknowledging the difference that they used a neologism to account for

Are you retarded?

If femcels universally acknowledged that they are all volcels, this dispute would end. That issue is the entire substance of the dispute: the fact that when anyone points out to a "femcel" that she can get into a relationship (if only a short-term one) any time she wants, she stamps her feet and denies it - because it takes some of the edge off her self-pity, and that's like taking cake from a fat girl.

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also why do you keep insisting on prostitutes so hard? how often did we explain in this thread that dirty fucking not what we are looking
That was my point you stupid dumb shit you guys aren't actually Incels. Incels don't exist. If you wanted to actually have sex you would simply get it, but instead you are choosing not to because of Your own entitlement of who you should be with.
I like how you had to put words in my mouth just to try to make a point. If we knew each other I wouls happy to be your wing person. However we don't. So if you really wanted to have sex. You could just hire a pro. There is literally a reddit page for it.

Not a woman or black, discord here: pzero280#0815
You can add it to see my dick since you're so obsessed with genitals. You can add it to start normie bootcamp. Or you can keep crying about being a loser the rest of your lives. I'm done extending olive branches this thread

our opinion is clearly never relevant to you considering you take some dumb bitch wandering in seriously but don't care for any of our opinions where we applied logic.