Why do they act like they're entitled to keep their jobs? Like it's a huge villainous act that companies fire people? "If the CEO took just one measly pay cut though..." And why the fuck would he? To employ people who don't make the company any fucking money?
They run a business, they employ you, once you stop being economically viable to employ YOU'RE OUT. The CEO gets millions because FUCK YOU IT'S NONE OF YOUR COMMIE BUSINESS. Do they actuall fall for all that bullshit about "Our company is a FAMILY"?
This is why people don't like capitalism. It's all about people with power and money taking advantage of people, in order to make more power and money.
Charles Murphy
Maybe because businesses shouldn't be focused on maximizing profits and should instead just try to be an actual benefit of society by providing a livable standard?
What you describe is basically forcing humans to be at the mercy of the employer.
This isn't some fucking game. This has to do with actual LIVELIHOOD.
>b-but fuck people!!! Na, fuck you.
Nicholas Moore
do you eat boots every day or is this a special occasion?
Christian Reyes
Ikr? What a bootlicker. >please cuck me harder! I deserve it! Please let me lick that shit you stepped on, sir! >I want my livelihood to be at your mercy! >I am not entitled to job stability or a livable wage, sir!
Talk about Stockholm syndrome.
Jaxson Harris
>Maybe because businesses shouldn't be focused on maximizing profits and should instead just try to be an actual benefit of society by providing a livable standard? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What fucking planet do you live on you utter child?
Oliver Murphy
So quit your shit job, go out and try to be that guy with power and money. Otherwise shut up.
You honestly expect the government to take away from successful people to give to the unsuccessful ones?
Nathan Parker
Translation: please let me clean the shit off your boots with my tongue!
Retard. This society gives more benefits to businesses than actual citizens. The whole point of a society is not to create a bunch of slaves, it's to try to create happiness as a whole. To benefit the majority, not to benefit the fucking 1%.
Ryan Lewis
>Man runs a business with one goal: make money >Leftie cucks wanting handouts think their job is fucking welfare they're entitled to
You're entitled to shit, go start your own business you commie retards.
Samuel Wood
Nothing's preventing you from starting a company that "tries to be an actual benefit".
Nothing except that you're a lazy piece of shit
Isaiah Long
>Maybe because businesses shouldn't be focused on maximizing profits
I would, but I don't feel good taking advantage of others. It feels pretty bad. My only hope is to stop everyone from taking advantage of each other, by implementing some form of socialism. Redistributing money wouldn't fix much.
Luke Fisher
OP is a communist hero. Don't you faggots see that the shittier society gets, the closer we are to the revolution? Start licking CEO ass you dumb soc-dems!
>So quit your shit job, go out and try to be that guy with power and money.
I lold. Underemployment is fucking rampant and so is nepotism I-I mean "networking".
Most jobs do in fact pay SHIT. "But you can be on the top!".
That's like saying is 20% of the population is doing well while everyone else is shit on, that's a sign of a "functional" society. Republicans, I swear.
Samuel Long
Yes, because business are of more use than actual citizens.
What the fuck do you offer that makes you special? Huh? The same skills that 1,000,000 other people have. You're expendable, you're not important. If you want equal money and power, go out and get it it won't be handed to you.
The goal of society is not to make everyone happy you fucking child. The goal of society is to provide a place reasonably safe from violence, illness and acts of nature. That's it, that's all a city is. It's not there to create a utopia, it's there to stop us all killing each other to get an iphone.
Eli Anderson
1. Not a commie, dumb retard. 2. I LOATHE employer jackasses so much that I actually AM starting a business and my main goal (besides maybe the first yr or so) won't be to cuck people and maximize profits like some FAGGOT. My main goal would be to provide at the very least a livable wage and benefits.
Carson Cooper
This. Just borrow 1 million $ from your dad retards!
This is why you're poor and get fucked in the ass by people with power.
David Smith
>My main goal would be to provide at the very least a livable wage and benefits. The best way to do that is to have a successful business ie make money. You can't give your employees lots of money if there's none to give, which is what'll happen if you run a business like everyone's your friend.
Jayden Campbell
Read You idiot.
You are a bootlicker that isn't capable of questioning inefficiencies in a system.
You think the 1% matter more. You think most people in a society struggling to survive (statistics back this up such as how 78% of FULL time workers live paycheck to paycheck) is a good and well oiled society. Lol
Jeremiah Cox
Jesus, are you a professional shoe shiner?
Liam Campbell
>You're expendable, you're not important.
This. The sooner people die out, the better. Too bad it starts with whites, but whatever.
Well obviously I would try to make money and not just "make enough to break-even" as that is asking to have your business fail. I just wouldn't want to pay employees the very minimum I could get away with.
Andrew Sanders
It's not just that it's hard. It's impossible to implement for everyone. In the competitive market, someone will always lose.
Noah Hall
Think of it this way: the sooner us whites are gone, the sooner society itself is killed off.
Adam Butler
>statistics back this up such as how 78% of FULL time workers live paycheck to paycheck
>The goal of society is not to make everyone happy Why not? Would it not be better if it was?
Hudson Torres
>rationalizing this hard When will bourgies learn?
Christian Gomez
50% of renters spend over 30% of their income on rent. Of those, half spend over 50% of their income on rent.
I agree. That is dumb. There needs to be restrictions to the cost of living. That is the number ONE problem in America. I've seen HOMES in other states under 100k and they are pretty decent. That should be the NORM. I would postulate an extremely small amount of people actually benefit from real estate. No reason people should be able to charge obscene amounts of money to not be homeless.
This would give more buying power to people.
You know, millenials make 20% less than boomers did during the current millenials age group? Schooling is more expensive and so is housing. Less pay and higher expenses when taking inflation into account.
Shitty system. Fix the cost of living, and you give more buying power. You give people more disposable income,and that can cause demand to rise as well. More demand, more jobs being created.
Jackson Hernandez
>criticising capitalism Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps lmao
Ethan Peterson
It's not about "what you offer", idiot. You've been brainwashed into thinking you HAVE to offer something extremely valuable (like cs skills, etc.) in order to deserve a livable wage.
Everyone is entitled to a livable standard of living. Am I saying everyone is entitled to a mansion? No. But as a society, the goal should be to try to at least give the minimum needed for survival to its citizens.
You think innovation and productivity is so important. You have your priorities skewed. You are basically saying "you as a human are worthless. You are nothing more than a cog. If you don't have in demand skills, you don't deserve anything and should just die".
Efficiency for the mere sake of it is pointless.
Let's pretend only 10% of the population could work because automation took away 90% of jobs. That's like saying "if you aren't in the top 10%, you're supposed to die off".
The fuck? This type of mentality is that of a sociopath.
Again, a system that only serves to benefit the rich is not a good system. It's oppressive as fuck but as a sociopath, you seem to love this aspect.
John Hughes
allright, fuck it, I will give it a shot. >There are limited resources in this world. >Humanity wants to maximize these resources and distribute them as fairly as possible >Freedom aka capitalism aka free market price discovery is most efficient in distributing these resources That's all it is. There's only one downside, and that is inequality. But it's better to have 10 carrots even though your neighbor has 100, compared to both of you having 1 carrot.
James Rogers
>You are basically saying "you as a human are worthless. You are nothing more than a cog. If you don't have in demand skills, you don't deserve anything and should just die". Yes, retard. That's how life works.
Xavier Moore
>No reason people should be able to charge obscene amounts of money to not be homeless. Let me reword that. No reason people should have to pay obscene amounts of money to not be homeless.
Current society makes you be at the CONSTANT mercy of an employer where your very livelihood is ALWAYS on the line. This gives employers too much power over employees.
No, brainwashed retard. Hasn't always been that way.
One example, boomers could buy homes and get an education with little effort when compared to people nowadays. Also, people used to survive through agriculture for instance and didn't have to work under someone else and basically worked for themselves.
You think "this system is so perfect so let's not question any of it".
Angel Morgan
>Also, people used to survive through agriculture for instance and didn't have to work under someone else and basically worked for themselves Sustenance agriculture in Africa yes. Anywhere else in the world no, you get fucked over by the manor and the landlord who treats you less than human
Levi Diaz
>That's how life works.
Not for long though. From environmental issues to replacement rates, the whole system as it is will fall apart. At best democracy (whatever it may be) will give way to some forms of authoritarianism, as it is already happening in many countries regardless of their size or importance.
>Just make your own business bro. 1-You're missing the point if that's your serious answer 2-Me starting my own business with max profit in mind is just contributing to overall misery.
That being said, I do have a hand in business and as much as it is retarded to look at big corp owners as the scapegoat for how mad you are for being a broke ass nigga since it's not the "one percent"'s fault really since it's all a big wheel we are all a part of, you gave to understand that capitalism is a system that is effective for growth, not distribution of wealth. The problem arise from the fact our ressources are finite and companies do not want to stop growing and getting more. Fuck communism. Distributing ressources equally is naive, but this wheel has us livibg in massive excess that ruins the planet and impoverish people. We NEED to slow down and stop trying to own and eat up everything because EVERYONE rich or poor is gonna starve in a dried up world soon.
look, I agree that the housing situation kinda sucks, but I don't really see the problem. The housing situation will fix itself. If people can't afford high rent, then they will live elsewhere. The landlord must then adapt by lowering his rent to attract tenants. If a house costs less to build than what you can sell it for, more builders will start building homes and selling them, driving the price down. This shit isn't rocket science. In fact, the only reason why houses are more expensive today is because government sets an incredibly low interest rate and requires new homes to have all these bullshit standards and regulations. If anything, your beef is with socialism and government intervention.
Brody Adams
I said the same thing. I own 2 cafes in the UK, opening another in Japan soon. They do well, and I started with the premise that I would pay any workers a good wage so they had comfort when they left work. I started by working 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, sourcing my own ingredients and doing everything myself. I enjoyed it, I felt the progress, and I was doing well. Before I knew it I needed people to work for me, so I employed some decent people and paid them well, but that was at the expense of my produce, which I didn't want. And now I had a dedicated cashier and trained barista, and a second chef to give me a hand, as well as a cleaner for the busier days. Realistically, if I paid them all much better than other places were offering, I would have been completely fucked. Now that place is ran by the chef I employed, and my 2nd cafe (under different name, I guess I like the early stages of business) is going to be taken over by a competent pair of hands. I do not live a life of luxury but I have a decent amount saved, I only pay them all slightly better than the competition. But also, because of the way some of them are trained, I need extra workers to pick up their slack. I need a porter because trained chefs don't clean up after themselves, and the head chef has no idea how to source his own produce so I have to get somebody else to do that. I'm not going to pay these people any more than others if they aren't doing the work to earn it. They have their role, they get paid by the standard of their work.
I will be entirely hands on with the new one in Fukuoka, because I need to be. I guess I've derailed from my point, which was just that I had intentions to pay everybody well but I realised it's a business. If my competition is treating its customers better than me, I lose those. If they're treating their workers better, I am at risk of losing those too. You need to find a balance, and honestly, customers come first.
Elijah Cruz
Your argument is kinda dumb. If there is a total of 110 carrots to be distributed between two people, then an equal distribution would never lead to 1 for each. The only way that problem would happen is if there was a problem with production, and not with distribution.
Christopher Collins
Autism
If you read this you are gay.
Jayden Flores
Government regulation? Fuck ya. For example, there was a guy making tiny $1200 mini homes for homeless people and it was confiscated by the city for bullshit reasons and they were deemed as "unsafe". I agree that is part of the problem. I hear people that buy property can't just build a home any way they want either (has to be a certain size or some crap).
I don't like typical employers, I don't like how an "at-will" state is a thing, and I don't like how employers have so much control over your life and how a person's livelihood is always at their mercy. That is borderline slavery and that is most definitely oppressive.
But with that said, many many many many many problems in the u.s. would be fixed if housing everywhere were made cheap. I don't believe "the housing issue will fix itself".
"millennials need three times the cash that their parents and grandparents did". And again, millenials make 20% less than boomers did.
More expensive housing and less pay.
That's not "fixing itself".
Leo Price
Imaging not being a CEO. Laughing at you cucks
Ethan Brooks
By "maximizing these resource" I meant production. I should have been more clear. Although it's pretty fucking obvious that fucking carrots have to be produced before they can be distributed, and the same goes for pretty much any resource in this world.
John Bell
>And again, millenials make 20% less than boomers did. Forgot to add, that's WITH inflation taken into account
Jaxson Watson
Game dev twitter is constantly whining every single day about company layoffs, as if its unique to the games industry.
It's no different to other industries, things happen companies cut down on employees and CEOs make more money. Its just the the games industry is filled with so many young people who have never worked in a different industry before this is their first.
Levi Ramirez
You said capitalism was the most efficient at distributing resources, not at producing them. The distinction is important. The Soviet Union was better at distributing resources (with the notable exception of what Stalin did to the ukrainian peasants) than capitalist countries, but was worse at producing resources in comparison.
Jayden Lewis
>not controlling the board Plebeians
Joseph Edwards
>You said capitalism was the most efficient at distributing resources, not at producing them. That's the same thing though. Communism isn't good at distributing. They are good at making shit equal. Making stuff equal is not the same as distribution. Distributing 10 to person A and 100 to person B is better distribution than 1 to both.
Hunter Gomez
>with the notable exception of what Stalin did to the ukrainian peasants No such thing. Go back to stealing pugs Hohol
Jack Bell
It isn't though. If you have 100 carrots, and 100 people with equivalent needs, giving 1 to each is a better distribution than having 1000 carrots for 100 people, giving 15 to 50 people, and then 2.7 to everyone else. The amount of carrots you have to distribute is related to production, not distribution. You can't fix a problem with production by changing the distribution, or vice-versa. You have to address the issues directly.
Alexander Morales
There was such a thing, but it was good. Peasants are bourgeois. To kill them is a progressive move.
Grayson Lewis
What the fuck does the CEO do that justifies being paid millions? The average CEO just sits in his office counting money and snorting coke while everyone else does the actual work. Fuck CEOs.
Jordan Hughes
>"If the CEO took just one measly pay cut though..." And why the fuck would he? To employ people who don't make the company any fucking money?
The thing that annoys me about the "CEOs get paid too much" argument is that it totally ignores the economic value of high level decision making. A good decision by one C-level executive can make a company hundreds of millions of dollars, a bad one can bankrupt it. So it's just a much more economically impactful role than any one low level worker. This is also the reason why CEOs get paid mostly in stock: if they make a bad decision the stock tanks and their pay is lower as a result.
Gavin Miller
FUCK LE POOR XDDD
ALL POOR PEOPLE SHUD DIE XDDDDDD
Leo Smith
>Peasants are bourgeois. To kill them is a progressive move. I like your thinking
