What the hell do men look for in a woman?

That's just how we're born, we can't help it.

I have explored my interests in depth over my 30 years of life and find that there is still much, much more to explore. I have no need for other interests.
I've had gfs who were cute but had nothing in common with me. It dies fast. The truth is to make it work you have to be the WHOLE package - nerdy AND gorgeous.

Men are a lot more forgiving of a girls looks. Men are the ones who have to have a bunch of skills and knowledge to bring

Gorgeous women are incredibly rare sorry but 99% of you are fucking ugly but we still settle for you because we are decent people. Unlike with women who regularly take turns fucking and passing around Chad while normal guys get left out.

Yes. It is simple as that for both genders. Humans only care about appearance, personality is irrelevant as long as you are good looking because being good looking makes you seem interesting, good looks fool human brains into thinking that pretty people are good people. This has been proven before already.

When you look at a 9/10 or a 10/10 your brain instantly assumes they are good people who are always happy and are sexually pure. When you look at someone ugly your brain instantly assumes they are very bitter and angry and are probably attracted to children or the same sex.

This is our reality, in this reality looks are everything a person can offer you besides for emotional support (which your brain does not want to receive from ugly people).

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you probably cried when you read "Sbeve" too you dumb fucking roastie whore kys kys kys

How the fuck do I kill myself lmao?

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Try roping yourself by leaning into it and you'll get knocked out and die. Yes saving yourself is as easy as simply leaning back but that's good, you never know how your brain will react to a near death experience.

Also being ugly isn't that bad, I knew a guy in high school who had crooked teeth, was short, was balding and had an almost absent chin because he was a mouth breather and he got laid with 3 different 9/10 10/10's and was constantly treated like a chad. Personality almost matters more as long as you don't have severe acne or have really bad face symmetry (so just don't be literally repulsive to look at).

>also being ugly isn't that bad
ffs. Speak for yourself.

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It's not that bad if you're not literally repulsive to look at, if it's just general unattractiveness like a recessed chin, balding or manlethood than you can get over it and actually live a somewhat good life as long as you lower your expectations by a lot.

similar values, goals, hobbies, life style, and someone within your looks range. The first things are more important imo, wth will you do with someone who you have absolutely nothing in common with.

If we are being honest I don't know. I mainly want companionship and someone I can trust though. Ofcourse sex but I'm afraid I'd be too demanding there.

Rule 1:Not fat
Rule 2:virgin
Rule 3:not a radical leftist.
That's it, but every girl that meets that has sky high standards.

All I want is someone I can have fun with. If I enjoy being around someone naturally I'd want to spend more time with them.

What I'm talking about though is about how men fall in love. If a woman literally had zero personality and kept her mouth shut at all times or was literally fucking mute but was the most gorgeous woman you'd ever seen, you'd fall in love with her at first sight. As long as she doesn't have any negative attributes like being a psycho bitch, you'd dream of her every night. That's how it is with women, for you to love her she needs to be particularly pretty, but not any good qualities, just not be a total bitch. It's much easier for women in that regard.

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6/10+ face not fat by european standards

Not really. I'd think she was rude.

Not at all.

You don't have to have a "hot body" or a model face.

Physically, the only thing you must do not be fat and have things that would be easy to maintain with some proper hygiene (like having all your teeth still in your head).

>All that matters for us lads is a pretty face and a hot body, right?
No you vapid whore
We want a girl that we find attractive, that depends completely in the standards the men has, whether is fatso or skeletal, with big hips/ass or big boobs, or plain as a table.
It also has to do with the face features (nobody likes a uggo face, men or women).

But at the end all falls in the personality and mentality of the women, if she is stupid or with an average roastie mentality, I couldnt give any fucks about her, even if she is the hottest or cutest girl alive.

I'm not gonna be a liar and say looks don't matter whatsoever, but it's all pretty subjective. Some girls might have certain attributes or mannerisms which would make them cute, but obviously youd have to get to know them more. Really, and this probably goes for some guys but not as likely, have proper hygiene. Would make a lot of "fembots" go from pretty ugly to pretty cute.
Moving on from that, personality is basically most of it if you wanna actually have a relationship with them.

> she is stupid or with an average roastie mentality, I couldnt give any fucks about her, even if she is the hottest or cutest girl alive.
What if she's mute and inanimate like and you can imagine whatever you want about her. She keeps her mouth shut at all times and it's like an object, but the most beautiful woman you could conceive of. Imagine the take off the statue that Pygmalion made, that sort of beauty. She wouldn't have any bad qualities nor good ones, she'd always be quiet and mute and you could do whatever you want with her. Do you think you could fall in love with that? I would. If she were really pretty.

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the tale of the statue*

Look, appearance does factor in but your actions make you attractive thise applies to both genders.

>Men will claim they want someone ''educated,
Men don't give a shit about this. I've never heard a mansay this.
Rest is true though. Sense of humor is nice because guys mental boners when we make women laugh.

that's just sad. orig

No way I could fall in love with that. It would be so boring, lonely, and stale. Yes, the sex would be great and hot, but it would honestly just become like masturbation at some point. That's not what I want in a gf.
Not him btw

>doesn't hate me
>is loyal
>lets me bang often
>isn't obese

that's all

>Do you think you could fall in love with that? I would. If she were really pretty.
If she is mute for a disease, I could learn sign language, as easy as that.
This made me remember a movie of a guy who is writing a novel and describes in paper her perfect woman, the women is made real and she is happy as shit, but eventually the traits she finds attractive ended up fucking him and she want to leave him, so he changes her description and she becames a clingy needy gf, and she gets sick again.

Yes, I absolutely could love a woman like that, but that would be more of a platonic romance that a romantic/real one, I think men are not as empty headed as that, so anyone would ended up getting sick of a women like that.
Like you said, it would be like an object, if a want I cute object, I would buy a nice car or a sex doll, wanting someone to share your life with is something else, it goes beyond that.

As long as a girl is skinny and has hair that at least reaches her shoulders my standards are pretty much met. The problem is that I live in the USA and every girl that isn't fat is already in a relationship. Every single one that isn't taken is obese.

I'm not fat, I support myself with a full time job, I have my own car and my own place in a nice area and I don't think I deserve to date an overweight woman, especially when I myself bother to work out and count my calories and I'm a single man. I'm buying a sex doll in a couple months and outside of that ill fuck a prostitute when I need to. The dating game in the west seems finished, I don't understand how anyone who isn't an absolute supreme Chad can tolerate this stuff. Everyone in this thread would probably call my life good or whatever yet I haven't had a girlfriend in eight years. I've done everything I was ever told to do to be a good man and it hasn't helped at all. The fact that I don't have the contact information of a single girl outside of the ones I met on seekingarrangements that will fuck me for money is insane. It's genuinely easier for a seemingly normal well adjusted guy like me to pay a really hot 20 year old whore a few hundred dollars to let me do whatever I want to her than it is for me to get a girl who isn't overweight to give me a chance.

And to make matters worse, the fat girls I am not interested in are probably not interested in me either.

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I am a man and I've literally never heard a single guy say they care about a woman being funny, educated, or any of that other shit.

We literally just want you to not get too fat (some guys are ok with you being kind of fat, so even this is flexible) and not be annoying/unfaithful. We don't care where you work, what you do, what you drive, or any of that other stupid shit that is apparently important to you guys. You don't even have to be intelligent. All you have to do is just not be fat. I have talked to many other men about this and I can't remember a single time anyone has disagreed.

I'm this guy, so don't even try to just say I'm an incel who doesn't interact with normal people. I take care of myself and I go outside every day. I just had a conversation at work with two other guys this morning about what we want in women and it went exactly how I said.

It is true and will never be different.

Men also do not love unconditionally, they're incapable, they have lust and possessiveness and sexual jealously and believe that is love.

You don't know how many time I stood talking to a guy and a beautiful girl walk past and they will stop mid word and stare. One guy while we were on a date went to another table to talk to some pretty girl that had only recently spoke to him. I had one bf break up thinking a pretty girl liked him only to discover she didn't want him and only acted like it to get back at me because she thought I told on her about cheating on a test. Then the asshole tried to get back together like nothing happened and I was so stupid not to know. I was ready to lose my virginity to him before he dumped me.

Oh, but I get my revenge. During my freshman year of college, I gained a little weight in the right places and bought better fitting clothes. Like overnight they all wanted me and told me how beautiful I was (puke) and I could see the insincerity in their eyes and drool on their lips. If they have a gf, they don't care, me a bf, they don't care, their best friends gf, they don't care, not a thing in common, THEY DON'T CARE if you are pretty. So I play with them and laugh at them and make fools of men. Then I tell all my friends so they can do the same. We have a list of guys and through my efforts can't get a date now.

Exactly, so why lie? We're completely anonymous yet some people feel the need to lie about petty things, for what? There is no social status or anything to gain.

I'm not like that. If I see a prettier woman I'm still not about to risk her being a bitch if things are going fine with who I'm already with. Granted this isn't necessarily out of the kindness of my heart.

Men want Stacey, women want Chad. Those who can't get Chad or Stacey end up settling and usually end up having liaisons on the side. That's just the way it is.

>impliying all men are the average chad

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>their best friends gf, they don't care

True, broes before hoes really doesn't mean anything.

If you're white, you're volcel. White, black, Asian and Paki women are all competing for white men.

She has to be european/aryan, wantin to have kids and never leave me, that's all tbqh

After being in bad relationships I don't necessarily care if she's a Stacy or not anymore.

chill >>> supermodel

I'm gonna be real: I think men CAN genuinely love a woman, but not unconditionally. Also, I've noticed the only time men really truly fall HARD for a girl to the point they'd do anything for her is if she's 10/10 beautiful.

Well I'm not chill and I'm also rather ugly so sucks for me lol.

>Granted this isn't necessarily out of the kindness of my heart
Of course its not. You're just a one in the hand is better than two in a bush but the guy I was on a date wasn't but your reasons are the same. You think a girl is pretty and thats all it takes.

I was the same girl before and after my metamorphosis in college. But to men I went from invisible and inconsequential to an object of intense desire but they didn't care if I could count to 10.

Men are so stupid and I can get anyone I want with no more effort than a smile.

>that petty vengeance streak
yes he totally only left you because the other girl was more attractive

You're full of shit. The only requirements are

>Be nice
>Don't be fat (not actually required in every case)

Only if you go to their third world countries.

Those living in white countries still only want Chad.

And most people can't fly half way across the world to get some impoverished gook.

Not true and I know the difference. No "chad" would even speak to me in until I got to college and the guys I went on dates with, were friends with and my one bf I was really wanting to give my virginity to were not "chad"

Seduce me then.

It really doesn't. They may act like it when their bro is around their girl but when his back is turned you better watch out.

None of them were that pretty though. I try to aim towards average to avoid those with egos or insecurities. They have all been below average and that's fine.

Almost all men cheat on or betray their female partners, if not physically having affairs, then at least emotionally (by confiding their secrets to other women) or mentally (constantly comparing their partner to other women and fantasizing about other women).

If you're a woman you might as well save yourself for Chad.

>10/10 beautiful
yeah, 100%. They will do, say, accept anything is she's pretty

(OP)
Almost all men cheat on or betray their female partners, if not physically having affairs, then at least emotionally (by becoming emotionally bonded to other women and confiding their secrets, prioritizing other women, enjoying and valuing their time spent with other women etc) or mentally (constantly comparing their partner to other women and fantasizing about other women).

Chad will do the same to you, but at least the dick will make it worthwhile and if you end up getting pregnant or whatever, at least the kid will have Chad's genes. If you're a woman you might as well save yourself for Chad.

>even if she's kind of a bitch
even if she killed and ate them all after they would still line up and push and shove each other in line

10/10s deserve other 10/10s. I don't even fall for them because I would rightfully get wrecked.

If that was true why would they whine about roasties all day

That's the thing though. 10/10s usually only date other 10/10s, but they will literally keep the lines of 6/10s as deluded orbiters who actually think they stand a chance with them. Beautiful people are usually greedy too.

I know a lot of people who would rather orbit some 10/10 Chad/Stacey or even a celebrity than bother dating irl because they don't want to settle and don't feel they should have to.

>Chad will do the same to you, but at least the dick will make it worthwhile and if you end up getting pregnant or whatever, at least the kid will have Chad's genes.

Or a wealthy man. Doesn't have to be a fucking billionaire, but a guy who can afford to pay all your expenses. His money will make it worthwhile, and if you get pregnant the child is safe and secure for the rest of its childhood, and will inherit its fathers money.

my pussy is warm red, slightly swollen and......yes, moist inside. whats your name?

Isnt that most white pussy. Hardly anything special

That's not seduction, that's just an invitation to masturbate with your pussy.

Bit too direct to be honest. I think flattery works better.

Or one that really gets to me is when they ask if I have a girlfriend because then I immediately start overthinking, "Why would she want to know that?"

sex is all you want and flattery are lies and I don't have to

We all assume you have a gf, knowing that won't stop you but we want to hear you say it

This makes no sense. You were acting like some EPIC seducer because you learned to dress better. If you dress like shit and were a sticc, since you said you gained weight, and you offered to have sex with me, yeah I'd probably take it. So what was this whole point about being ugly or whatever?

It's mostly what I want but not all.

I used to but she canned me a year ago for someone better. I sort of deserved it though because the guy is a business owner while I'm pretty damn poor.

What the fuck no
I'm not gonna date some cunt that will ruin my life just because she's hot

Just because I have wandering eyes doesn't mean I'm not yours. I just like looking at pretty girls quit being so jealous damn

I like artsy chicks who are additionally into memes or fitness/yoga. Got to be cute too. Just because she is hot wont mean I will enjoy inane babble beyond a pump n dump.

>tfw you and your first gf would check out people together and rate them and there was always good bantz because most of them were better looking than you both

you don't have a chance anyway so go away

>has a shit argument with an equally shit "attempt"
>ummmm sorry sweetyyyy tier response
Lol,

You seem crazy and depressed, kinda hot. I'd take you on as a rapeslut if you asked me nicely.

you guys kill me. you think arguing and declaring yourself a winner gets you sex. it doesn't pathetic

She has options though so she can't really lose.
Chad would have to stand her up at their wedding.

>Yeah. Men will claim they want someone ''educated, good sense of humor, likes this and that, spontaneous''
What men are you getting this from

I never have to ask any guy anymore, ever. they do the work and they hope for the best

No ones after sex, I dont even know you, for all I know you're a dude. It's just your view of things is retarded and could possibly make other people adopt some similar shitty thoughts. Same way "incels" end up with such skewed world views. Why even post it if you didn't want a response?

exactly, if and thats a big if I should ever compromise and agree to marry he would know if he didn't show his best man would be ready or his brother. the best way to keep a man in line is for him to know I have plenty of willing options

they won't be as chadly though or otherwise they'd be the groom and chad also has options

I just want an art chick that doesn't look too horrible (a little chubby or homely is A-OK) and who is also sane. I've dated a lot of girls that users on Jow Forums would call "hambeasts" and the like. I don't care that much about appearance. However I am starting to get really frustrated with how boring a lot of women can be, and how the ones that are a little interesting are fucking nuts in some other way, like being polyamorous or expecting texts every 4 seconds.

I just want a girl who has a brain and a job who I can draw and make art with, and maybe drop psychedelics with from time to time, maaan.

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The point I was trying to make is you've always had plenty of options by simply being a women. Men will always be after sex, it's just a simple fact of life. This thread was more directed at relationships I'm assuming. No relationship would last that is simply built on sex. Not every guy just wants to pump and dump you, just like not every girl solely wants to slut around with chads. You people have such skewed world views, very unhealthy

Yes of course, it's how guys have to operate. Hit on everything, see what sticks. Doesn't mean we're only in it for the sex.

going to try a tier list

Celebrity > Chad > Convicted Murderer > Stacy > Plain Jane > Brad > Femcel == Volcel > Incel

Feminine, pleasant personality, young, curvy (not fat!), submissive, and willing to raise my kids barefoot in my kitchen.

I don't delude myself about "my lover and my best friend" bullshit. Cicero said it best, any friendship that isn't between two good men will always play second fiddle.

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As if loving someone for their wealth or the attention they give you is any less superficial.
Just accept that people ain't shit. Pure selflessness is absolute seclusion.

I type out two long we'll written posts, one of them just replying to the OP, one of them directly responding to two other posters in the thread. Neither have any (You)s. The girl who posted below me has six, fuck you all. Every fucking time.

She has to be level-headed, loyal and not be a whale. That is all i ask.

Yes, that's all there is for us, if you ain't got the boobs you ain't gettin the wallet. Tits or fuck off tranny

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Traits that would make her a good mother or housewife, of which modern women have approximately zero. Shit like
>cooks
>cleans
>shows empathy
>doesn't argue over dumb bullshit
>is innocent/doesn't have more dick mileage than your right hand does when you meet her
>will take interest in your hobbies even if she doesn't really get them
>actually cares about you, won't run away if you stray from cocky-funny for 10 seconds
You know, like a human woman normally had throughout all of history.