DUDE JUST GET A JOB BRO IT'S EASY WHAT ARE YOU LAZY BRO YOU AREN'T TRYING BRO

That pisses me off. Then there's me with no one to help and so I'm stuck doing a shitty hard job that makes me want to die and take this faggot god with me

businessinsider.com/how-ebony-horton-paid-off-220000-worth-of-student-loans-in-3-years-2017-3

>Working an entry-level job in Washington, DC, Horton earned a mere $38,000 a year - barely enough to cover her living expenses, let alone make a dent in the more than $100,000 she owed in student loans.

>"I was struggling to survive," Horton, now 31, told Business Insider. She said she and her boyfriend "had two cars, but I couldn't even afford to get a parking pass for the second car, so it was constantly getting towed. It was just one thing after another."

>She had toyed with the idea of moving back in with her parents to save on rent, and when her father had a stroke in 2013, she knew it was time to make the transition.

>Back home in Joliet, Illinois, Horton took a job as an operations manager at the nonprofit her mother runs. The salary was comparable to what she made in DC, but the cost of living was drastically less. She increased her student-loan payments, setting the lofty goal of paying them off entirely in a year.

>Horton and her boyfriend tied the knot soon after the move. Horton's mother gave the couple a condo that she had purchased at an auction for $13,000 as a wedding gift. It became crucial in wiping away the hefty student-loan tab.

>To anyone who feels overwhelmed by the prospect of taking on student loans - or paying back any debt they've incurred - Horton has a simple message: "I just want them to feel empowered that they can pay if off. If I can do it, anybody can."

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Armed forces are always an option. Literally just need to be fit and healthy. If you're afraid of conflict you can join the airforce or navy. Get to travel the world and make a lot of money while doing it.

>Literally just need to be fit and healthy
that describes almost none of the people ITT

Most of Jow Forums wouldn't pass the psych evaluation.

this dumb bitch would be homeless and jobless without her mommy

>All you employers need is a firm handshake, Champ. Employers just want that confidence and go-getting attitude.

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>that describes almost none of the people ITT
would take only around 6 months to reach the fitness standards (assuming you're not obese)
>Most of Jow Forums wouldn't pass the psych evaluation.
there is no psych evaluation, the comprehensive health check is physical only (not intimate). The only way they can find out if you have a mental health issue is if it's been diagnosed by your doctor.

>condo for 13000

See, I made a thread yesterday where I said fixing the cost of licing would fix nearly everything and a bunch of bootlicker retards were like "no no no, I LOVE getting cucked!". Literally their responses. Fucking retards should get shot.

cleaning shit for $8 bucks an hour. I hope you respect yourself more than that user.

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have you applied for warehouse work? a lot of wholesalers, lumber yards, printing facilities all need warm bodies and its entry level most of the time. I kinda fell into one and I make decent money, its a shitload of hours and i have no life but I didnt have one anyway so fuck it. money in the bank is nice even if I'm wagecucking all the fucking time

again
plus its almost 100% male dominated so you wont be around a bunch of dumbass girls gossiping or w/e the fuck.

literally me, didn't even do a real interview. I got asked like 2 questions and they offered me a job on the spot. How much you takin home? I'm @ 13 an hour

bit more than that but yeah. ful ltime + overtime up the ass, also protip, get dr. scholls insoles or the equivalent, walkin around all day on concrete is hell on your feet and knees esp for older bots 30+

ye i was thinking about buying the "hard surface" insoles. I'm working full time, 40 hours but got 48 this week. Works kinda physically hard and I've taken to unironically doing yoga for my middle/upper back. Also I'm downing aleve every morning before I clock in and using ice packs on the rly bad days before I go to sleep. Still worth it for that paycheck tho

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>Ask friends who got jobs with worthless degrees how they got the job
>Every single fucking time it was some random hookup from friends or family
I'm going to fucking kill myslef

So... What if you're one of those fat guys who have the body strength of a little girl and a fucked-up spine? Is warehouse work off the table or not? Because I'm qualified for basically nothing... Don't wanna be a NEET at 30.

>the world betrays you
>angry at employers
>kill self rather than employer
faggot enabling one oh one ^

yeah get some dr scholls, and take b-complex vitamin and D vitamins as well instead of aleve (bring some with you just in case though, I have a pharmacy in my locker). also dont use ice, use heat. ice makes the muscles tense up more...theyre sore and need to relax, not have emergency inflammation/pain reduction which is what ice is for

stretching and exercise/calisthenics help a lot. everoyne I work with is a turbo normie and im def the weird guy but i try and make things entertaining, deprecation humor, bantz, making fun of shitty policies when taken literally

plus my bosses realized im not a complete fucking retard and are training me up for management afte ronly 8 months so thinks can sometimes get "better" even if its not everything you want. beats just walking back and forth pulling orders, or even just doing deliveries (easy but tedious)

tough to say, most warehouse work is physically involved. There's this super tubber at my job like 300 lbs+ but he's a beast and can lift 50 lbs like it's a basketball. I'd say start working out man

Jesus I'm gonna have to start eating healthy and lifting just to get a fucking warehouse job. I guess I've forced myself into this situation, eh? I'll look into it.

go check out some industrial parks or factory districts wherever you live. fuck retail, fuck office jobs, fuck janitorial unless it pays real fuckin good.

can you lift 40lbs/20kgs? and how fucked a spine we talking here? quasimodo or just "my back hurts because ive been sitting at my computer 18hrs a day for the last 10 years"

Do you think they will hire me if I'm morbidly obese? I mean, what about just obese? I could be motivated to lose some weight but I don't know. Part of me asks why spend months fixing my health just so I have the privelege of breaking my back and feet for pennies, just to save enough to get fat again and die at 60. If I were 10 years younger and fit, I'd apply to warehouse stuff but it would take too long to prepare myself to get there.
I've been hospitalized and sent to group homes for mental illness, along with slowly getting fat due to medications and gluttony/laziness. Could I worm my way into the Navy or something if I spent the next 5 years fixing my body? Beats the warehouse suggestion.

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not really, you'll be huffin and puffing at first but its not that bad, after a week or two of feelin like youre gonna have a coronary your body gets used to it. I was skinnyfat 190lbs and im down to 160, still not in the best shape but i feel a lot better and i got a bit more energy. not a replacement for goin full Jow Forums but any improvement is good

For anyone who doesn't have a degree/isn't able to go to college/having trouble finding a job...

Look at jobs like Bookkeeping, Bank Teller, Credit Union roles, Back Office roles in banks...they have decent mobility if you do your job right, just don't expect to go front office from back office.

Thinking of starting with a volunteer job at first to get experience and a referral and get used to walking around and interacting with people. Glad to hear you're doing well, man. I hope you're proud.

I take b12 500mcg and there's vitamin D 700 IU(175% dv) in my multivitamin but my back was still getting sore. I was thinking turmeric for inflammation. I'll try heat instead, think I have a heat pack somewhere. I wouldn't mind getting trained for upper management, those fucks have it easy compared to us low lvl guys. I don't plan on waging for longer than a year, just enough to pay for my transfer tuition and finish my degree/certs.

>for pennies
hey 13-18 isn't bad for warehouse work m8. That or wageslave for $8 an hour at mcdonalds.
Worm your way into the army, the PT requirements are easier than air force/navy. I know air force has half the time to complete the push up/sit up requirements.

>navy
scratch any armed forces off your list if you got documented sadbrained shit on the record
>obese
I mean if you can walk and climb a step ladder and put things in bags or take them out of bags or hold a roll of cling film and walk in circles and can read and follow instructions im pretty sure bossman will yell at you enough to get you doing the right thing pretty fast

its 1001 small tasks but eventually you dont even think about it. its really not that hard and if you got no trade skills its better than workin walmart or aldis or w/e the fuck

cant hurt to try it, plus get used to bein on your feet 6-8 hours a day. i work 10-11 but im insane and we're shortstaffed and well, I like money. and yeah im glad im not pushin 200 anymore that was bullshit, I felt/looked horrible. random sweating, sleep apnea, bad snoring, like wtf not even THAT fat and it was fuckin me up bad

Honestly this would be a half-decent after work job if you wanted a bit of extra cash.

So what's the plan now, mate? What do you wanna do next?

Any of those would make me lose the will to live within the first week, I'd rather just play TF2 for twelve hours a day earning nothing

With my associate's degree, the most I could get after a yr was a security guard job that starts at 13 an hr... I live in LA.

Fuck me. How is suicide not more common when so many jobs are futureless?

>trained for upper management
gun for floor lead or dispatch or forklift operator or receiving lead or w/e is a step up from basic bitch work. you'll still do basic bitch work but theres some elements of responsibility involved. for me i dont just pull orders, i pack em up, confirm and get the drivers out on time. I cant have the boss there babysitting either, i basically have to have our inventory out the door on time independently of whether or not a manager is there to make sure im doing it right. some things i cant/dont do, but im getting there. they already let me pick/pack my own stuff (normally its a two man rule) but they realized im not a complete dipshit and i can read so they dont mind me checking my own work. plus they have me training newbies who all seem to figure shit out pretty well, not that the work is HARD or anything but I've seen people flame out of a job that is literally "go to X location, take Y number of Z product, return to front of building"

I would genuinely enjoy jobs like those but I doubt I would even get them.

I'm tired of all you fucking entitled zoomers thinking you're shit Liberal Arts or STEM degrees are worth a shit to anyone. You have to WORK to get that janitorial position. Don't like it? Well study more, otherwise start at McDonald's and don't complain. You lazy cocksuckers.

Please tell me this was you pretending to be retarded.

>study more
And when they end up in the same spot?
>dur hur study EVEN MORE entitled fuck

Dumbass retard. It's your retarded logic that ruins america, you shitstain

see but yeah im lookin for asst manager and maybe branch manager in 10+ years. even though im officially on the same level as everyone else people come to me with questions and concerns and I try and help em out best I can. training comes naturally to me and I try and make it funny/interesting (i find people remember shit if you can make em laugh) and im an INFP feelfag so i empathize with people when shits goin wrong and I can defuse it pretty well. not a hardass boss type but people tend to do what I need em to do

I dont really LIKE having power, I never sought it out but I wanna move up instead of just waste away in the doldrums forever. even if i have authoritah over other people I never use it unless the need is dire. I might get curt or abrupt is shits all goin to hell and people are fuckin around but full on dressing people down and ripping em a new one isnt really my thing unless somone fucked up REAL bad

id probably let a lot of shit slide that i shouldnt, gotta learn to not give as much of a shit I guess

>you have to work HARD for those minimum wage jobs!

Fucking kys

You millennials crack me up LMAO

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literally just humble thyself and/or face to bloodshed. work something blue collar. fuck cushy office jobs. get a little dirty and tired. its good for you.

McDonalds requires 3-5 years experience though

Things are so bad from those entitled boomer fucks that rule this country that I can't even tell if this is fake.

Imagine denying someone's LinkedIn invitation being your highlight of the day.

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fuck workin fast food. make pizzas or something at a mom n pop. start by bussing tables or doin bitch work (making salad/kneading dough/vegetable prep) in the kitchen and move up from there. bust your ass, come in early, stay late, volunteer and ask questions. show initiative and keep at it. its not guaranteed but you arent in a total loser job at the dick sucking factory AKA wally world, and if your boss is a real human bean you can move up. not instantly, obviously, it takes a long time. but theres always something if you look outside the obvious hellholes that are always "hiring" because turnover is unreal

>by making people self-select themselves out.

what a great way of getting only low IQ narcissistic retards with no self awareness as employees

>don't ever write to me again

You bet your ass I'd be sending her some of the weirdest shit straight from 2chan until I die of starvation

It's real
cleveland.com/business/2014/02/job_bank_head_kelly_blazeks_sc.html
She also won "Communicator of the Year"

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>spend years putting out applications
>no results
>finally get mummy and daddy to hand my resume to one of their friends
>they call me and schedule an interview within 24 hours
>interview is literally just scheduling orientation and trying to figure out how many hours I'll be able to work
>spend 3 years making more money than most of my peers doing far less work than any of them

im not even joking one bit

>implying thats not the goal

im happy for you user, i really am. consider yourself blessed. bank as much cash as you can and get yourself as financially independent as humanly possible. Live like a total poorfag if need be but bank that paper until you have enough to fuck off to the comfiest island forever and never ever look back

>trying to get any help from some autistic looking woman with the hairdo of hillary clitorus

>if you want to get a job, you have to slave away and constantly go above and beyond and demonstrate yourself as the top 1% of all employees
>meanwhile boss and other co-workers do jackshit and get paid more

Explain to me how these people are in higher positions yet spend the day doing jack shit and delegating all responsibilities to me? Why do I have to be "the best" to get an entry-level job? What happens to the other 99% of people that can't constantly go above and beyond and bust their asses and sacrifice their youth for the honor of working for some schmuck that doesn't give a fuck about us? How does everyone else have a good job? Did they ALL work HARDER than me?

Welcome to capitalism user. Nepotism is the name of the game. Would you have rather started off as pic related?
You being born in a rich country means you have access to money that most people will never have the opportunity to hope for.
There's no fair, or just reason why those people are "above" you, or why you're "above" some poorfags in Africa. As long as the money keeps funneling upwards the world is good.

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>communicator
>some snide rant someone with literal autism would spew out

Unironically, that was probably the best hiring approach from the employer's perspective too.

>wah wah I don't wanna work
You fucking shit-for-brains are pathetic. Need experience? Fucking work an internship you pathetic faggots. You have only YOURSELF to blame if you graduate college, or high school, knowing that you'll go to the job market, but being unprepared for it. If you graduate without landing the job, you're an idiot and it is your fault. Grow up, faggots.

>I just want them to feel empowered that they can pay if off. If I can do it, anybody can
Is selfhelp just for normalfaggots? Is there any point in trying?

If you weren't born into a wealthy family you already failed.

>airforce or navy
Which one's better?

This is like some smug message you'd get after teamkilling someone on Halo. How does a woman go 55+ years and still lack self awareness?

The people that live there at least have family, fresh air, and can work the land of their forefathers. What the fuck do I have to live for? Putting out 110% to get the same paycheck I would get if I shirked my duties? It's all so hopeless, there is no upward momentum and no future, it's just wage slaving for a subpar paycheck for the rest of my days

holy fuck what a bitch

>and can work the land of their forefathers.
LMAO. That land is property of Huei Shungdung and other Chinese capitalists. They pay Clickclick Ooga $5 for the right to mine the land for billions of dollars of resources.

some did, some didnt. don't kill yourself with overwork but dont be a shitty slacker. do your job, dont bitch (much) and be willing to do more. also "doing jack shit" isnt in my experience, my bosses work even more than I do, I have no idea how they havent gone postal yet. Im aware of the fatass middle manager who does absolutely dick all but moderate paperwork and powertrips at every opportunity though

all im saying is have a good work ethic and it will pay off. not as much as being well connected/lucky af but theres value in honest work, man. maybe not monetary, but idk. it's always been good for me even if im really tired. if i didnt work so much id just drink/vidya all day instead of just at night, you know? plus I have cash on hand and am well in the black and saving money plus I got a new car because my old one was fucked and leaking ekhaust into the cabin and just being able to DO that and not stress over it is real fuckin nice man. but the cost is i give damn near half my life to a fucking job. so idk man, its what it is. I do it because I want and need to. otherwsie i just go full doomer/neckbeard again and ive been there and its fucking shitty when youre an oldfag (35+) like me

This.
It strikes you when you snap out of the routine and realize you've spent the last few months working like a robot. No thought of the bigger picture. Just 9 to 5. Day in, day out, weekends spent as a broken mess.

Then what is a man supposed to do in circumstances like these?

Just be glad you were born rich. Capitalism is a natural process that was the end result of more and more efficient trading of resources. We're part of the side that has resources, they're part of the side that's royally fucked.
Hopefully automation fixes this mess, but it'll probably just turn us into the have nots of tomorrow.

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work a job that has upward mobility. small staff, on site training, work side by side with the boss. warehouse, printers, wholesale, courier (not contractor though, drive a company car), machine shop, etc

big retail chains are fucking cancer and need to die. and woe be to anyone whose fate consigns them to amazon or walmart. look for something unorthodox. hell I even worked in a kennel for a while, nothing hardens you up more than dealing with literal mountains of dogshit. esp if youre some furfag scat fetishist eyoooooo

In what way am I rich? I live paycheck to paycheck, I cannot afford any hobbies, I cannot afford a woman, I cannot afford to spare time for traveling anywhere (including a job search elsewhere). I am trapped with no escape except for death

bust your fucking ass anyway. you can just slump down and go "aw, fuck it" or you can at least put in effort and make some money/experience. even if the job you get is on par with "porn theater jizzmopper" it will teach you SOMETHING at least

They only want brainlet overconfident normies. Self critical robots need not apply

haha yeah well about that, i lost 1/3rd my body weight and became physically disabled and started dying of stress, having fever and heart palpitations all day every day, wishing i was dead. continued working for another year with no plan to quit, then was laid off

then my parents proceeded to start breaking my balls about having to move out, after telling me i couldnt afford to all those years even with that job, which is probably a big reason why i gave up on socializing and trying to meet girls, because i lived with my parents, worked alone, felt like a loser, which is a big reason why my health went to shit in the first place

then i was 115 pounds, half dead, probably developing multiple autoimmune diseases and dementia, couldnt focus on anything due to pain, no hope of working a "real" job when i got fired as a fucking pizza boy years ago just for fucking up or being the slowest person who doesnt fill a gender or racial quota (because i certainly was not the slowest person) which destroyed my self esteem for years until i really thought about it

then spent 2 years focusing on nutrition and exercise and now im feeling better than i ever have in my entire life just about but still kinda pretty weak, mentally and physically, but my moms always losing her shit at me for being a 26 year old NEET

i think ill be good though, i now know the real source of all this bullshit was literally just a loss of muscle in my lower trapezius and rhomboids from spending so much time at a fucking desk, not enough of the proper exercises with proper form, and or not enough sleep, causing my shoulder blades to fail to move properly causing one of my rotator cuffs to pretty much fall apart causing me to be unable to sleep from pain which started killing me early

so i just have to simply focus on activating the right muscles which have basically been asleep and atrophying for 5 or so years from all the other muscles overcompensating

You live paycheck to paycheck but you aren't worried about how you'll feed yourself in the long term. Even if you lose your job you know there's resources you can use to get food and shelter. You even have access to unemployment in some cases.
Yes the cost of living is higher, but the countries we live in allow far more opportunity to acquire money than people in literal Timbuktu. The system is fucking abhorrent but it's what we got.

check out local garden centers/wholesalers, lumber/construction supply, warehouses, that kind of thing. cruise around industrial parks near you, the shitty kinda ghetto places no one has to drive through to get where theyre actually going. at risk of sounding like a boomer, just go into some of these places and ask if theyre hiring. worst case scenario they say no or "apply online"

smaller outfits are usually manpower starved and need anyone they can get.

>even if the job you get is on par with "porn theater jizzmopper" it will teach you SOMETHING at least

Yeah, it'll teach you that wasting your life working is pointless.

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What do you want to do? Navyfag here but I work with all branches every day

>Economy/job market has no use for me
>Dating market has no use for me

Literally a superfluous man. I'm absolutely useless. This society has no need for me. It doesn't even want me.
Why do people tell individuals like me not to kill myself? If you pressed them, they wouldn't be able to come up with a use for me.

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Post info so we can politely respond.

hit the gym, nigger. push your fucked up back and shoulder as hard as you can without hurting yourself. the injury IS the atrophy, you HAVE to work it.

also focused deep (medium at first) tissue massage every other week. idk how you can pay for it but exercise and physical therapy is your best bet

>Used to live in Chicago with dad when I was like 14-18
>Applied for shit ton of jobs over the years but only ever got like three interviews ever and never a call back
>Dad had the fucking audacity to say I was faking my applications and there was no way I was having this much difficulty finding a job because he grew up in a small town where everyone knew each other so it was easy as shit to get a job
>He never helped me at all with connections
>Move in with mom at 18
>Now live in shitty little ghetto town next to a small city
>Mom gets me a job almost as soon as I start looking for jobs again just because the hiring manager at some McDonald's daughter and her daughter are in the same dance class
>Work that for a few months and quit because McDonald's high school kid drama is annoying
>Go a few more months without a job and eventually land one at a Popeyes without needing connections
It honestly is a fucking rigged a game. When people say getting a job is the same difficulty as getting a gf they aren't exaggerating. Even at just a fucking McDonald's or something

Where do you live? They must have agency jobs you can apply for. Do some volunteer work on the side as well. It does show you can take initiative.

You can donate blood and organs

because one day your parents will die and then you will have to become another taxpayer helping continue the system that wants people like us to go extinct or become complacent slaves

I wish I had said yes to more women when I had the chance. I would not be so fucked with money now.

(spook'd)
then dont spend your entire life working, spend half of it instead :^)

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>I work hard and have seen no return on the physical and mental investment I have put in a company that doesn't give a fuck about me. Why should I continue to do so when I will get paid the same for less work?
>bust your fucking ass anyway

Gee thanks boss, maybe ANOTHER year of slaving will get me somewhere. You think I don't already HAVE experience? I have my resume all over the internet, I have submitted to a wide variety of positions (including ones I am clearly not qualified for, just in case I accidentally self-selected myself out) and NOBODY is getting back to me. The place I work at lied about and downplayed my responsibilities, but they are the ONLY ones that hired me and knew that they were taking advantage of me. I have no choice, it is either this or unemployment, and I don't know why. There is nothing else this job can teach me because I am not able to work up the ladder. I am stuck in this position until I get another job elsewhere, but all other employers have denied my applications.

Construction in my area is already well-stocked by illegals and guys with green cards, and I'm underfed so I don't fit in with that, or with the warehouse. Hell, before this job, I applied to work in a warehouse and they moved me to customer service because the warehouse guys had absolutely no faith in my abilities. By garden centers you mean Walmart and Home Depot, right? They pay less than I am making now, and I'm already struggling. I have done the whole "shake the manager's hand" schtick, I once got suited up and went to places around town with a stack of resumes and asked for a job in person. All people did was laugh at me and trash my resumes.

Fuck man, I even applied to wastewater treatment facilities but they never got back to me. These places literally hire criminals yet I am apparently less employable than convicted fucking rapists and drug dealers and murderers.

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Not die and something techy I guess.

To all the boomers in this thread saying
>lol go volunteer
fuck you.
If my time and work really isn't worth monetary compensation, I'll spend it how I like rather than desperately dancing around like a cuck hoping someone comes along and offers me a job licking human waste off of toilets for $8/hr.

just go into the building and speak to the managers :)