Data conclusively shows that the "incel" view of sex is wrong: Few American men are celibate...

Data conclusively shows that the "incel" view of sex is wrong: Few American men are celibate, and most are monogamous within a given year.

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Now, keep in mind, it IS possible that just in the last few years, there HAS been a trend toward sexlessness - and toward sexless young men in particular.

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But unless you think Tinder and Bumble are causing increased celibacy among men *and* women, this still doesn't fit the "incel" worldview...

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And people looking for social or cultural explanations for the rise in sexlessness should realize that the apparent decline in libidos is happening around the world...
sbs.com.au/news/the-feed/young-single-people-in-japan-aren-t-having-sex-and-the-reason-is-proving-fatal

It's probably helping it by concentrating sex in a smaller number of men, but the overall amount of sex is still shrinking.

And just watch as these well backed up facts will create few replies and most will be angry incels screaming how these facts are wrong. Meanwhile threads with meme charts and complete bullshit made up graphs will get loads of incels replying how facts prove them right.

>"incel" view of sex is wrong

stop the presses

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How does having something that is purely an adder, and enabler, take something away? And from one gender only? That doesn't withstand logic. Tinder and bumble make it easier for everyone to meet, date, hookup. And despite this, men and women are having less sex. Quite interesting.

Does that mean normies are right or is everyone just fucked?

Explain this basedboy.Go back to reading the twitter feed of that Noah cuck who posted that you fucking NPC.

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that's because they pay escorts

TRASHED

Hot take: the 80/20 thing is right but it's because 80% of men are choosing not to pursue women (as frequently), not because women only want 20% of men. Incels are a tiny minority.

Yeah kinda figured that incels were stupid

Read cuck.

Why don't you post a source, brainlet.

That's kinda given. If you're smart and want to get laid you will figure our a way.

wtf I'm having sex now!

All female animals are sexually selective. That's why sexually dimorphic features exist in the first place (eg. antlers on male deer, beautiful colors on male birds, larger muscles on males). Why would humans be an exception? You're not a creationist, are you? We simply exist in a time where most dating opportunities are mediated by the internet - specifically social media and dating apps. Females have a larger dating pool now, thanks to the internet, so they're going to choose mates with the best genetics to ensure healthy offspring.
Studies have shown on dating apps, women rate ~80% of men as less than average, while males rate women evenly. Another study showed nearly half or 49% of females said they only wanted to date men who were taller than themselves, while only 14% of males expressed a desire to exclusively date shorter females. Another study says "women were found to be looking for partners with either the same level of education as themselves or higher. Meanwhile, men were found to be less likely to be as particular. "Evolution favours women who are highly selective about their mates and in many cultures, women have been shown to use education as an indicator of quality because it is often associated with social status and intelligence -- both attributes that are highly sought after," explained Whyte"

And? You still have a lot of work to do bridge between

>women have cultural and evolutionary reasons to be selective

to

>the majority of the male population is in bondage to an overclass of harpies and the only possible solution is suicide

Only your ideological filter makes the second follow naturally from the first.

>the majority of the male population is in bondage to an overclass of harpies and the only possible solution is suicide
You're the one generalizing this to all incels. The only one being illogical here is you. Most incels do not hold extremist views. Incel literally only means "involuntarily celibate". According to the latest GSS data, 28% of males were sexless in the past year. I'm assuming most of these men would like to have sex with a woman, due to male's high sex drive. It's pretty safe to assume at least 20% of men 18-30 are involuntarly celibate.

Fuuuuck you mean I actually have to work to get what I want??? Jesus christ just kill me.

Incels are defined by having extremist incel views. Less than 1% or even 0.1% of male virgins are incels.

>Incels are defined by having extremist incel views
You do not define a word by using it in its own definition.
Incel is a portmanteau of "involuntary celibates". That's literally it. Anything else you ascribe to the term is purely subjective.

Incel is literally someone who identifies as an incel. Nothing else.

The term is defined based on how it is used by the actual community who uses it, not by what the original inventor intended. This is called descriptivism in linguistics. Incel used to be an accurate way to describe many virgins until it was adopted by a group of misogynistic racists as a way of implying they have a lot more support than they do. If you would prefer, consider my earlier post a refutation of "blackpill" logic and you can apply "incel" to whatever toads, streams, and frogs you feel like aren't getting laid enough.

Don't bother replying, it's the "incel cult" troll. He shows up in every thread about sex and relationships trying to bait people with lazy one liners like "incels are liars", "incels are a cult" "all incels choose to not have sex" and so on.

It wasn't 28% of males but 28% of young males.

>prostitutes
>tinder
>bars
How the hell can you be celibate in 2019 if you don't want to be?

>The term is defined based on how it is used by the actual community who uses it
Ok. Let us see how the incel community defines "incel".

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Wrong community.

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>consider my earlier post a refutation of "blackpill" logic
Except you didn't refute the black pill at all.

>young men driving the decline in sex
>implying

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Ok, even if you want to have incels mean something else, that's fine, but it doesn't change that there are a lot of men who are unwillingly not having sex.

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i dont know i guess you *could* say that men would rather jerk off then chase a woman, take her on a date, and fuck her eventually

Because sex isn't the one end goal, necessarily, it is and it isn't. You say this as if these people don't know those services exist, but thats' what they are, services, which are pretty much glorified masturbation. What these sexless people want is for someone to love them and by extension of their own free will want to fuck them.

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Ok, even if you want to have incels mean something else, that's fine, but it doesn't change that there are a lot of men who are unwillingly not having sex.

And this is not the end of the world. It's a generational trauma, perhaps, but it's one our society will adapt to and learn to overcome just like it overcame the Man Shortage in the mid-to-late 20th century. We're not even sure why this is happening among countless new variables and yet incels (using the popular definition) are screaming for blood to be shed.

The problem with your thinking is that this problem isn't going to just go away, it's going to manifest into much larger problems.

Most men aren't having sex while the top Chad's are fucking all the women.

>but it says the women aren't having sex either

Lies. We all know women are gross fucking whores getting pounded by different Chads every weekend. Women are despicable liars when they're asked about themselves.

Not really seeing what's wrong with your image.

>well backed up facts
>unsourced images where you can clearly see the sample size is about 180
>vs an actual study that states 28% of men are sexless in the past year and rising fast

>Lies.
Where's the proof?

Lel. Incels btfo. Too bad theyre not smart enough to understand.

Real life. Just look out your window, retard.

That one is overused, you should have gone with "google it retard".

What am I supposed to see out my window?

It redistributes it.
Tinder and the like don't actually increase your ability to have sex as a low tier man at all but they massively add your chances if you are on the top. Since women aren't very likely to suddenly start having ton more sex because they downloaded a phone app, what it means in practice is that the women fuck the best man out of thousands in the tinder instead of best man in their class or bar or what ever they did before where a pool would only be couple dozen at most.
People have the same amount of sex but it's more stacked towards the high tier males.

If you still don't understand you could think of it like this
A grocery store lowers all of their prices, does this increase or decrease total amount of food eaten? Maybe a little but most people are already eating as much as they like. The real effect would be that people would pick the better foods so in reality price decrease across the board would result in lower sales on the cheap products.

>it's defined by how the community itself defines it
>posts someone outside the community defining it
haha virgins btfo, i guess all incels hate women unlike men who do get laid none of whom are sexist or think women are retards

imagine the pathetic tranny who wrote that description LOL, somehow thinks getting fucked in the ass hole and getting POZZed is an accomplishment

this is the only correct definition.

are a lot of incels utterly pathetic and subhuman individuals? certainly! there's no question about it. but "incel" literally means "involuntarily celibate"

wanting sex and not being able to get it implies absolutely nothing about your personality. a fat, bald, stupid, NEET manlet can be an "incel" but also be a total pushover who treats all women like literal gods.

it's fucking stupid. making fun of "incels" is like laughing at handicapped people, that's really all it is

anyone who ascribes certain ideological beliefs to incels is proving their own pathetic nature, and invoking a fallacy. basically "the only people who disagree with me can't get laid LOL" fucking losers

t. non-incel, had sex with 3 girls