How do we solve the obesity problem?
It just that everyone I see is obese. I'm 15% bf, and I had people come up to me saying I'm skinny and will die from an eating disorder from obese people.
I think we need to ban carbs. Think about it everyone is fat because they are eating too much carbs. Imagine if you cannot buy carbs from the shop, then over night obesity will be solved.
Granted the government will never do this because of bribes from the sugar industry.
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It makes dating easier for me, so I want this trend to keep going. I hope we can hit 50% and then I'll be able to get laid more.
No we need completely privatised healthcare and to let fat people die. What the fuck is wrong with you freak socialists wanting to ban everything.
what if we banned being fat
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The fatter everyone else gets the better fit people look in comparison
fucked up but I'm with these guys. you cant save people from themselves
I don't really care about obese people. My uni gym is already flooded as it is. Why the fuck would I want more people going there? I don't care about obesity in America for my own selfish reasons
its good that you want to solve the issue but your solution is retarded
obesity is currently on the decline, don't worry about it
I was a DYEL in high school (I wasn't like super skinny because I played football, but I had 12 inch arms at 5'6). Anyhow, I literally got laid just because I was skinny enough to wear a skintight shirt without having a stomach bulge out.
DOn't listen to what Jow Forums says. Face and height matter a lot, but being in good shape (not even bulky, just skinny/muscular) will add a point or two to your attractiveness scale.
>I think we need to ban carbs. Think about it everyone is fat because they are eating too much carbs.
No this is nonsense, people have always eaten carbs, thay cannot be the cause. We need to figure out the real cause, only then we can think about solving the problem.
you're not exactly wrong... but it's also not "just carbs"
it's that everyone is eating more of everything. carbohydrates are the least expensive and easiest to consume when not hungry, but people actually enjoy the combination of carbs fat and protein the most--that's what every fast food meal is.
>We need to figure out the real cause, only then we can think about solving the problem.
The cause is literally the 600 calorie soda + whatever shit 1k calorie 3k mg sodium fast food meal people eat daily because they think cooking healthy is expensive or they don't have the time when it takes like 10 minutes max.
I'm curious to see a breakdown how obesity breaks down by gender. I feel like women are getting fatter than men, but that might just be my own bias.
Would (((((they))))) allow such a study?
The solution, honestly, is to let people die.
You cannot force compliance with treatments. People break their diets and refuse to lose weight for their surgeries all the time. At a certain point you need to accept that some people will refuse to take any personal responsibility for their health. There is no point trying to save someone who is actively trying to kill themselves.
I don't like that this is the truth, but it is. Every dollar we spend treating obese people is a dollar we didnt spend on a child who got cancer through no fault of their own.
The ONLY thing we can actually do is promote healthy eating at a young age, but Fat Acceptance assholes oppose that.
But I don't want a fat gf.
>How do we solve the obesity problem?
Fasting
Quick and inexpensive
>women are getting fatter than men
that's true just from common sense. but female obesity is up way more than male, esp black females
>Americans are too dumb to stop chugging corn syrup and eating sugar for every meal.
Imagine my shock.
I feel the same way. I would like see studies, though. A breakdown by race would also be very interesting.
(((They))) only want people to get fatter, stupider and more complacent. The only thing you can do is set a good example, and encourage people around you to eat better and exercise.
Its not just carbs. Its all plant products.
Vegetable oils should be banned too.
Friendly reminder tha it is almost impossible to be obease on a pure carnivore diet. It is also the most nutritionally dense diet if you have liver once or twice a week.
Honestly it feels like its just the lower class people who do that. I grew up around poor people when I was a child and it felt like half the parents and kids were obese, then my parents moved to nice neightborhoods and each time every school was in shape other than a handful of kids or extremely old people enjoying their last years of life.
No they're not. Sugar has nothing to do with obesity
Common misconception. Blacks have higher bone mineral density, proportionately longer limbs, and generally more muscle mass (untrained), hence higher BMIs by a point or two. Actual obesity among blacks is actually the same or slightly lower than white populations. Black men generally have higher blood pressure though.
Why its the carbs. Physiology 101 time:
Carbohydrate(sugar) is fat storing, is not used directly for energy and lowers TEE(total energy expenditure output). Further because carbs crank on insulin, they drive on blood sugar creating an energy imbalance that leaves the body in a state of energy deprivation, thus lacking satiety. Its why people who eat sugary foods are constantly hungry, have to fight the physiologically increased urge to eat more.
Its worse for the fact that 95%+ of the "food" in American stores isn't food at all. But sugary trash, a more than half of it being processed shit with added carbohydrates, spices to mask the cardboard taste of vegetable oils.
In shot summary the government is trying to poison us with completely pseudo scientific recommendations. Literally no diet is more toxic to human health than the government recommended "Standard American Diet". No other diet is as efficient at putting on body fat for aforementioned reasons above.
>didn't mention Randle cycle
Did your brain break even further?
The way the USDA estimates sweetener consumption also means the specific figure could be higher or lower. The agency changed its methodology in 2012, which meant a sharp reduction in how much sugar it said we consume. Emails obtained by the Center for Science in the Public Interest, which supports soda taxes, show that a sugar industry group wanted the change and hoped for “as low a per capita sweetener consumption estimate as possible.”
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And Cristin Kearns, a former dentist who has been uncovering documents showing the sugar industry’s influence on nutrition science, noted that “manufacturers are getting crafty” about the types of sweeteners they use, such as juice concentrate, meaning they might not show up in consumption figures.
As sugar comes under fire, food companies are using sophisticated new methods to reduce sweeteners without sacrificing sweetness. Consider the use of “sweet taste boosters” that amplify smaller amounts of sweeteners. The ingredients are listed as “artificial flavors” on packages, according to Senomyx, a California company that makes them.
Earlier this year, MycoTechnology began making a “bitter blocker” that reduces the need for sweeteners that mask bitterness. The Colorado company says it is made from a mushroom extract and can be listed as a “natural flavor.”
Some companies have also switched back to “real sugar” to give their products a more wholesome image, even though there may be no difference in calories. While the overall decline in sweeteners reflects the drop in high-fructose corn syrup, the consumption of refined sugar has actually edged up in recent years.
Just how much sugar do Americans consume? It’s complicated
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>when all you have are associative conspiracy theories that are confounded by anything
>stay mad you illiterate retard
Have you ever done an IQ test? Please do, and use the result to guide you in your decisions as to whether or not to disagree with experts.
At that point we could just ban medicine completely and let the weak die.
>Its all plant products.
retard
Absolute fucking rubbish.
Suggar consumption in other countries dropped even more.
Same as any other public health crisis in history. Syphilis, cholera, AIDs, lung cancer etc. A massive combined state and private sector effort to change attitudes, regulate the relevant industries, research drug targets and so on.
Except of course metabolic syndrome (obesity is just a correlative proxy for this and it will affect about 20% of the perfectly normal BMI population) is gigantically, eye-wateringly more expensive than any of the previously mentioned. Lung cancer kills you inside of 6 months. Metabolic syndrome decays you over decades. And there's no such thing as a drug target for your liver turning fructose and sucrose into fat and formaldehyde and citrate. So medicaid and every other countries welfare system is fucked.
No it isn't
sugar taxes have already come in in my country
all that does is make poor fat people poorer
We must save the children.
-Classify childhood obesity (not rectified in a year) as child abuse
-Ban advertisements targeting children
-Stop the government from promoting dairy, potatoes, and corn in school lunches
-Implement a fat tax on the obese
-Tax junk food and soda
Go back to traditional diet, make PE important again, that's literally all
>there's no such thing as a drug target for your liver turning fructose and sucrose into fat
Wrong. It just isn't patentable:
I don't know user, financial incentives, positive or negative, can do wonders
carbs used to be all whole grain which kept you fuller longer
now the shit is so empty you want to eat again 1 hr later cuz u still hungry after eating 1/2 lb of pretzels
Bit round
I’m considered obese by my BMI but I’m below 15% bodyfat.
I don't think anything can be done. We've passed the tipping point where so many people are now obese that being a fat fuck isn't even something that makes you stand out or be ridiculued. Shame and desire to fit in was what kept a lot of people skinny in the past. With those motivators gone there's not much holding back people from just getting fat like everyone around them.
As a civilised person (W-European) I love reading these threads, gives you an insight on the american mind
>people blaming carbs
>blaming veggies
>blaming blacks
Have you guys tried eating less?
Fellow Euromutt here, genuinely interested, why do you think Americans eat so much in the first place?
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The government shouldn't be in the business of dictating people's diets.
Obesity is just another symptom of this diseased society. Instant entertainment, food, drugs, sex (and abortions on demand because taking responsibility for your actions is heresy) drives the weak to over consume everything. When you feel unfulfilled and depressed, you are diagnosed with another disease, and prescribed medication that pumps your brain full of serotonin and dopamine. The family unit is destroyed, and mediocrity is embraced, so lonely fatties can go to a drive through our get food delivered without giving it thought. It is the beginning of the end of the West.
liquid calorie tax
as an american, i think this is one of the places most blasted by libertine ideology. sure there are plenty of cultures elsewhere that are more fucked up in various ways, but the sheer wealth of this country means every single immoral idea is marketable on a wide scale, not least of which, gluttony.
poor education, a lot of people aren't taught a proper relationship with food. Free market also allows the worst shit to get the most exposure.
Refuse medical attention for all conditions resulting from obesity
>kill all fats
sometimes the fasted methods are the best
The problem is that people have become complacent with eating trash 24/7 and not thinking anything of it. You can probably walk to the nearest McDicks if you don't live in bumfuck nowhere. The difference between people now and people during and before WW2 was the availability of fast food places, the cost of healthy eating choices and the perception of being healthy vs. being fat. Nowadays there's the whole "fat acceptance" movement where it's "YoUrE bEauTifUl aT EvERy SiZe" and those that become obese aren't ridiculed for it as much because being fat is praised as being "healthy and beautiful".
There's also the whole notion that being fit is seen as "ableist, racist, sexist, etc." because everyone wants an ecuse to not look after their bodies.
The only way to fix the obesity rate is for people to wake up on their own and for others to get back into ridiculing those that are obese. Banning carbs isn't gonna help shit because you can overeat anything and be fat.
Allow health insurance companies to discriminate on logical factors that impact client’s health.
I’m a young fitness minded guy, 12% bf, don’t drink, smoke, no drugs. My annual biometric screening puts me in the top 1% in overall health yet I pay the same insane premiums as my obese colleagues.
Fuck. That.
In a sane system I’d be paying enough to offset the risks of ER visits related to accidents while they’d be forking over half their paychecks to cover their eventual extended medical care and death resulting from complications related to being fat, lazy, pieces of shit.
That’s literally the only thing that could work.
>hangs around fatties
>wants to force a macro to the black market
>thinks it's a huge government conspiracy
never detested somebody so quickly, well done
that's retarded logic, eeven if 99% of people were obese that wouldnt dive you better chances,unless somehow there were way less obese women than men.
>I think we need to ban carbs. Think about it everyone is fat because they are eating too much carbs. Imagine if you cannot buy carbs from the shop, then over night obesity will be solved.
Rice is a carb and is consumed it vast quantity in asia which also has the lowest obesity rates.
If you eat more energy than you need in a day, the excess is stored as fat.
This is regardless of source(fat, protein or carbs).
The answer is in education of your TDEE, restrictions on the size of plates and bowels that can be sold and portion size limits at all restaurants and fast food outlets.
Of course if I was king of the world I would just make fat clothing sizes illegal.
It's just meal timing and a crapton of misinformation about blood sugar.
Like, from my own experience, I dropped quite a lot of weight with minimal effort when I was a poor college student because I couldn't afford snacks. I didn't necessarily eat great meals -- pizza was a common order -- but I rarely snacked.
In the past year or so, I struggled to lose weight despite being a lot more conscious about eating right and properly exercising. Biggest difference? A LOT more snacking (including reasonably healthy things like rice cakes), even when combined with lower meal caloric intake.
The main issue is that people believe that the benefit (a technically true benefit, mind you) of being able to think very clearly and be on top of things due to increased blood sugar is worth any downsides that it might lead to (even worse -- most people are 99% of the time not aware of any downsides besides calories). So, whenever they get minor brain fog and lethargy due to going without food, they say "man, I should get a snack"; or, perhapsthe same thing but add in a stomach growl: "man, my body is telling me to eat, so I should!" And it's easier than ever to sate those cravings: we have bars, shakes, etc., all of which should help you out but often don't.
It sucks to say it, but people have to learn to live with being a little hungry. Because LITERALLY 99.99999999999+% of your ancestors spent nearly all of their day *not* eating. Even your relatively recent ancestors likely only ate a couple times a day. And they were fine: they birthed the modern world.
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embrace it
This is correct but nobody in first world countries today has the balls to support that. Even when you draw the clear legal distinction between voluntary and involuntary medical risk factors it won’t be favored because it “feels” bad. And ultimately that feeling is all that matters to the public in modern politics.
Because the nutrients are missing, not because there are carbs.
Because retarded DRI and bland food missing micornutrients. This is both down to processing and fertilizing.
We shoudl also ridicule people with cancer so that they have less cancer. It will surely work.
Missing micronutrients are to blame.
Not sugar, as above.
>itt a bunch of fat incels larp about how they should fix themselves
Hahahhaaa /fit everytime
There is a global obesity pandemic. However, the prevalence of overweight and obesity among men and women varies greatly within and between countries, and overall, more women are obese than men.
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also ofc statistically whites are more obese since there are more whites than other races, for now.
obesity will breed itself out, we just gotta keep enough healthy people to sustain populations
No it won't. Plenty of sick fucks and thristy beta's that would smash fat chicks
Rising obesity rates are a torture to the male dating pool
Too bad Krauts and Britbongs are getting fat as fuck too... denial of this is willful ignorance.
Right because the average middle aged black man in the US doesnt look like the fat fuck from the office
Well it sort of does. I mean we shame people for smoking and drinking too much alcohol. Why not for eating too much?
men became pussies and let women free reign
his mind on porn.
Move out of the US
Yeah this
If anything it decreases your chances since there's a smaller set of non-obese women for you to try your luck with
Our ancestors had no choice. Thats the problem, same goes for porn and smartphones. These things are detrimental to our health but they are so pleasurable and addictive it's very difficult to control yourself