Mfw normies are unironically against free speech now

Jow Forumstards are disgusting tubs of lard who can't maintain eye contact

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i dont even live in america
i live in Poland and honestly its pretty comfy here with how many people have backwards ass beliefs but still flaunt them
Its pretty cringe though that it is by law prohibited to hold some beliefs like denying hulu cast (probably because poles died there)
I hate doing that though, these fucking soft ass fake normalshits drive me crazy, I love being honest and to the point
i easter euro countries are pretty good right now, free speech isnt "protected" but the culture here is more rough in general
Which phase are we at now?
Are zoomers the "strong men"?

Fuck i got a strong deja vu from this thread, but i dont remember it being this shit

Well that's their fault, privilege to free speech does not mean that one is immune to the effects of their speech.They should just be happy they don't get stoned.
Also hate speech is not free speech.

>Everyone with functioning brains telling you how your opinions are shite is free speech
But they're actually advocating for legal suppression of speech/

t. plebbit cuck

Oregano

>Also hate speech is not free speech.
Normie faggots repeat this like a mantra.

>Also hate speech is not free speech
Almost replied to you seriously, bait
>But they're actually advocating for legal suppression of speech/
THIS, we have officially passed the point of passive-aggressive life ruining, I made this thread because Ive seen some bitch detail on jewbook how the government should censor hate speech and she got a shit ton of support

Normies wanted free speech as in allowing degenerate music and activities to be shown and talked about. They were mad that the government wanted to control vulgarity and sexual/violent content. Thats what normies mean by free speech. They wouldnt want some old out of touch white guys to get down on hip negros and degenerates making rap music and over-the-top sexual content.

sorry, I've been having a bad day. I just took my state mandated daily dose of s o i and my wife's husband was making fun of me again, please don't make fun of me too.

>post on social media "kikes and niggers should all be killed"
>get fired from your job
>"HELP MY FREE SPEECH IS UNDER ATTACK!"

t. (You)

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Exactly, they're weak men, due to easy times. Were you trying to prove him right?

You're not immune to the consequences true, but it isn't the governments job to provide the consequences.

No, they are telling you your opinions are shite

Or "hard hitting truths" as you love to call your shite

Anyone else feel like they get dumber whenever they visit Jow Forums? Why is this board utter shit

It's not "the wrong opinion" that does that, it's the legal consequences of you exercising your free speech to speak about things civilized societies have no time to bother with and rightfully worry about

You're more than welcome to remove yourself from society if it makes you so uncomfortable as one of your rights, if it gets too hot it's time to leave the kitchen, it really is that simple.

>Why the fuck do they WANT censorship?

Internet conditioned people into gated communities of truth due to an overwhelming amount of information / voices.

Pre-internet, people were separated by geography and so they didn't have to interact with conflicting ideals beyond their immediate regions. Someone living in the South may have been offended by shit going on over on the West Coast, but it didn't really matter because they were separated by a country and they rarely had to hear them.

Now with the internet, those people are affecting culture and policy in each other's States, for better or worse. It fosters resentment, and ultimately conflict to the point of using the law to silence opposition.

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>post you support trump
>get fired from your job and never find another well paying one because you've been blacklisted
fuck off shill

Not exactly free speech if that civilized society has time to bother to through your ass in prison.

>No, they are telling you your opinions are shite
They are literally suggesting people should be imprisoned for their beliefs.

Whole Jow Forums is

I used to visit this and mu and both are just terrible now

mu seems filled now with 13 year olds and this one was unsurprising how it became, i guess it was unavoidable that it became a light version of pol

I wonder where all the people with interesting content went

Imagine having to perform this level of mental gymnastics to reconcile your worldview with reality.

By this logic literally every fucking civilization ever had free speech including Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia.

The normie is always right. I just got a 3 day ban for saying "16 is legal". I got called a pedophile and they're making a bunch of call out threads about me and literally telling me to kms. They'll never get zucced tho cause they're " normal "

yeah ive thought about that, we were all assimillated into the mob without developing enough tools to protect the individual
The world of art is standing in place now because individualism has been crippled, no new ideas are allowed to spread, no old ones are destroyed

Do you feel smart attacking people's character and not their arguments?

14 is legal in Germany too, crazy shit
its weird that with all this degenerate shit out there people are twice as defensive of children than they used to be, why is that?

Jews and women did this.

Is this a joke? Just because you talk about raping and killing babies in video games doesn't mean it's okay.. When the fuck do you set that fucking boundary? If you said the same shit on jewbook you'd get banned but they support and stream video games that promote this kind of shit.

The literal only reason why they now think that is because they got meme by tv and (((influencers))) online

I know it sounds cringy but they are very easily programmable, almost like trained animals

For the anons as old as me or older, remember back in the late 90s when (((they))) started what I like to call "Operation Will&Grace" (a terrible faggot tv series with open faggots).
Via sheer memeing and psyops they morphed what was generally a pretty homophobic country into loving the gays, in less than 10y.

Truly amazing.
And what concerns me most, is, once "reprogrammed" they will have no recollection of their past opinions almost, and act as if it's always been the norm and the past was bad.

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Savages and women and children have taken over the world it seems. Can't believe Hitler and Elliot Roger were right

>Will there be any way to stop this? Some kind of web 2.0?
8ch

Yeah pretty much

Except in virtually all cases now is not a secret police or paramilitary force shutting me up for good or making it clear my whole family will pay the price if I continue speaking, is the platform I'm using for free reminding me their terms of service explicitly state they won't tolerate my nonsense

or "basic first world services" which explicitly state they can remove me for being an idiot, removing me for being an idiot

Free speech just means you can't be persecuted under the law for things you say providing they're not threats of violence. It doesn't mean every person or company is obligated to platform your opinions.

The reason racists are cracked down on so hard isn't because of their actual ideology, it's because they have an extremely long history of advocating as well as attempting acts of murder and domestic terrorism. Things like the KKK, The Order, The Aryan Nations, The Nativist movements David Lane, William Pierce, etc set that precedent in America. On most online and IRL white nationalist communities it doesn't take very long for the conversation to turn extremely belligerent, which is also why the FBI watches them so closely and often infiltrates their groups.

some corporations now are more powerful than countries, in my opinion you should have a level of protection by law from getting raped by massive companies
We are living in an era where services and social networks arent optional anymore

>On most online and IRL white nationalist communities it doesn't take very long for the conversation to turn extremely belligerent, which is also why the FBI watches them so closely and often infiltrates their groups.

wow I wonder if there is any link between feds and ridiculous fedposting

they don't have easy lives. there is no such thing as an easy time you retard.

Even if I disagree with social networks not being optional, this is already happening with the constant disasterclasses FB is pulling out

It'll be extremely hard though, the monster behind them pretty much powers the whole digital system

free speech has boundaries, no speech is ever truly free.
You can't exercise your free speech by shouting fire in a crowded theater and that's not necessarily a bad thing

>I keep a watch on a lot of communities on jewbook and people there freely wish death on people for being rawsist or homopohobic
So what you are saying is hate speech is okay unless it directed at people who engage in hate speech. That's a rather inconsistent point of view.
If you are condemning these people for their extreme opinions on racism and homophobia, you also have to condemn racists and homophobes.
That is if you cared about making a consistent argument about how freedom of speech may be limited if your free expression harms others.

I'd say rn is pretty fucking easy. Do you think neets could even exist in say the industrial or medieval era

Yeah, just like that guy who did some ridiculous fedposting at that mosque a few weeks ago.

Free speech isn't possible. No matter what you say, someone will dislike it and use their free speech against you.

>You can't exercise your free speech by shouting fire in a crowded theater

But the theatre is on fire.

The difference is is that he dislikes that they were calling for the government to censor people. Freedom of speech ofc has it's logical limits, but I don't think it ends at people being insulting others.

If it is, yes.
But if isn't you're gonna have a problem.

The he's pretty clumsy in constructing his argument. It's one thing to express that you'd like these people to be dead and another that you would like them to silenced by the government.

>direct threats of violence are equal to general expressions of "hate"
Nice false equivalence, dude.
Free speech(yes, this includes "hate speech") : "I hate all niggers/racists. I wish they didn't exist in our nation because they're all evil. "
Direct threats(not free speech, not protected) : "I hate this nigger/racist named John Doe. He should be shot, people like him are better off dead, if only someone would do it... "
Free speech is only justifiably banned in cases where it presents a clear threat of violence or is clearly calling for violence, or in cases of libel or slander. No direct avenue of harm? It's free speech. It doesn't matter if you're a communist, Nazi, or satanist : as long as you're not calling for direct violence or engaging in slander against a specific person with clear intent to cause harm while knowing that the information you are giving is false, you have the right to speak your mind without official legal punishment.

>in theatre
>see fire
>shout "Fire!"
>the theatre manager, Mr Bagelberg, insists there's no fire, and if there is it's always been there anyway
>has me arrested
>everybody in the theatre jeers at me as I am dragged out as the fire burns around them

Maybe this is good. I mean we are all addicted to this shithole and i will never find friends let alone a gf who shares my addiction here in germany. Maybe they should shut this place down and force us to become normies. Maybe they should drug us ro feel happy while we are slaving away at the jobs we hate. I feel like everythingbis better than the current situarion.

If one Jewish guy can successfully convince an entire burning theater full of goyim that the theater isn't on fire then I'd have to conclude that the goyim are pretty fucking stupid and probably deserve what happens to them.

"I want you specifically to be dead" is not a threat of violence. It is exercising your free speech. You can wish death on people all you want. But you can't say that you're gonna make it happen. That would be a threat.

Why are you even arguing with me? I am saying the exact thing you are saying.

Read this again and consider how this is you seeing yourself as some sort of messiah more than anything else.

Bet people like the Infowars guy think of themselves like that, which btw aren't arrested or dead

the modern lefty is an idiotic racist useful tool for bringing about fascism. that's what the whole intolerant tolerance is about, they're fascists.

A lot of music is hate speech so you're full of shit.

that's the point you freedom hating leftard.

Except its the other way around. Theyve literally convinced normies that throwing money at them actually hurts them

>meanwhile feels bad for black people for being poor

>Read this again and consider how this is you seeing yourself as some sort of messiah more than anything else.
This doesn't really affect the validity of what is being said.

>Bet people like the Infowars guy think of themselves like that, which btw aren't arrested or dead
It's almost as if over the top conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones have a purpose, namely enabling the "Wow you just said something outside of the normal accepted narrative you're just like that cray infowars guy" bullshit you're trying to pull.

The one thing that gets me is the fact that they've managed to turn virgins into something they can actually hate. And they genuinely believe that the only people that abuse women on the internet are incels

Yea and this is what OP is saying normies are against. Are you fucking retarded or just incapable of reading comprehension?
>This and this are free speech
What are you trying to prove? You couldn't even form a valid argument against OP, when he too, is fucking retarded.

There's no validity on what you said, it was silly fanfiction of you pretending to see things nobody else can

Nothing to do with the topic

>person I agree with uses "ire in a crowded ttheatre" analogy
>this is fine
>person I disagree with expands on that analogy
>REEEEEE

Unlike whites in America blacks were actually oppressed for a long time.

Can't say i've experienced this on a personal level, I've had women ask if me if I have/had a girlfriend or sex, and when I answered honestly it either was a neutral, surprise, or flirty reaction. They thought it made me "pure" or something, like being almost 21 and not fucking everything that moves was a special achievement. I know what you mean though, ever since Elliot it seems like theres been a slow shift online towards actual hatred of reclusive, oftentimes shut in men that regular society brands as "incels".

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Im not saying they should not have the right to say that, but just pointing out that they want somebody dead because they said something they do not agree with, they dont view people that they disagree with as human beings essentialy
Probably why they dont care for their right to speak freely, I believe that everyone has the right to free speech

o okie..

PEOPLE ARE LOSING THEIR MINDS. THEY ARE REGRESSING TO THE LEVEL OF THEIR ANCESTORS, THE GRET APES. That is what is happening. AND IT IS HAPPENING AT BOTHS SIDES, of the left and the right, and there is no center or RATIONALLY THINKING FULL HUMANS left anymore. Do not really know if this shit was set up by someone, or is it just the NATURAL WAY FOR HUMANS TO ACT, so that in the situation of extreme environmental stress, such as OVERPOPULATION, people turn into DROOLING MONKEYS.

youtube.com/watch?v=ypEaGQb6dJk

Yeah. And if you say it out loud in your (Scandinavian) university, that you feel sad about those Scandinavian girls who got beheaded in Morocco, NO ONE WILL TALK TO YOU FOR A YEAR, and your teachers will give you poor grades or fails and refuse to give you any counseling. You might even get expelled, for getting too poor grades or failing, for teachers giving you poor grades or fails because they think you're racist. IT IS FUCKING RETARDED.

>It's their fault for having opinions, people can't break their programming!
Fucking neck yourself bugman

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I guess it's like that because of the people posting on it, such as YOU.

That's because while you were reading this thread it accidentally got stored into your long term memory, instead of your short term memory. That is why you felt that you have seen this thread long before. Our brain malfunction that way sometimes. It may happen the other way round too, so that something that was supposed to be stored into your long term memory, is temporarily out of reach and gets replaced by what is being recorded by your short term memory, as a result of which you feel as if something that is supposed to be all familiar to you is totally new. This happens to me after I come back home having been away for longer period of time in a strange place or even after coming home through strange route.

>THE GREAT APES
>oN the left and the right

clown world my friend
no end in sight

>le honk honk amirite fellow disenfranchised channer? xD
God you people are lame.

Sorry, I got it now that you might have been sarcastic.

Is it hate speech to say that you think that full details of lose criminals, including ethnicity and skin color, should be published in media, to protect people? In my country it is, and might get you fired from your job.